McCain: I endorse Mike Enzi over Liz Cheney

posted at 11:21 am on July 22, 2013 by Allahpundit

Yet another reason to find the Enzi/Cheney race fascinating. Tough call here for Maverick. Does he strike a blow for incumbency by backing his pal Mike, even though it means siding with “wacko bird” nemesis, Rand Paul? Or does he strike a blow for interventionism by endorsing the tea-party favorite Cheney? Here’s the answer, via the Corner. McCain endorsing anyone named “Cheney” at this point was a long shot, incumbent opponent or no. He’s been at odds with Dick sporadically for at least 10 years, dating back to the Bush tax cuts, then to the debate over enhanced interrogation, and then to Cheney’s criticism of him after leaving office for his VP pick and his bizarre political strategy during the 2008 financial crisis. (Cheney wasn’t above publicly knocking McCain in the heat of the 2008 presidential campaign either.) Liz Cheney actually took McCain’s side last year after her father called Palin’s VP selection a mistake, a shrewd move for an aspiring Senate candidate planning to run as a tea partier in a red state. That plus super-hawkishness, and still — Maverick’s unambiguously for Enzi here.

Even so, is she better off having McCain on the other side? Just as Rubio’s polling with GOPers nationally remains fairly strong even though it’s gone into the toilet among many grassroots righties, Maverick might be seen as a respected elder statesman by Wyoming Republicans who don’t follow politics closely even though the national base rants about him daily. (He carried the state by more than 30 points in 2008, although any GOP nominee would have.) Then again, how often do “incumbent backs incumbent” endorsements really matter to the incumbent? I think this helps Cheney on balance because she needs tea-party cred and there’s no faster route to that these days than ending up crosswise with the base’s least favorite Republican. He’s spent the last six months arm-in-arm with Chuck Schumer on immigration; he’s dumped on Rand Paul and Ted Cruz, both of whom are favorites of grassroots conservatives; and he’s ended up aligned repeatedly with Obama on subjects as varied as amnesty, intervention in Syria, the terrible filibuster deal last week, and “stand your ground” laws. (Cheney told the Daily Caller recently that she would have voted against the Gang of Eight bill. Enzi did, in fact, vote against it.) If she’s looking to squeeze rank-and-file conservatives nationwide for donations, she should add an “Opposed by John McCain” graphic to her campaign website.

Two clips below, one of McCain yesterday and the other a golden oldie from 2008. I wonder if he remembers.



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Were McQueed’s eyes spinning counter clockwise when he said this?

jake-the-goose on July 22, 2013 at 11:24 AM

Well this an interesting twist . . . . . . . . . should I flip a coin ?

listens2glenn on July 22, 2013 at 11:25 AM

the tea-party favorite Cheney

Says who?

Caiwyn on July 22, 2013 at 11:25 AM

McCain’s endorsement is reason enough to vote for Not Mike Enzi (i.e. anyone else).

Vancomycin on July 22, 2013 at 11:26 AM

She should thank him. Publicly.

meci on July 22, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Is there anybody out there surprised about McLame’s pick?

De Oppresso Liber on July 22, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Does he strike a blow for incumbency by backing his pal Mike, even though it means siding with “wacko bird” nemesis, Rand Paul?

Of course he does.

Never forget his trademark legislation was McCain-Feingold, aka the Incumbency Protection Act (h/t Rush Limbaugh).

Bitter Clinger on July 22, 2013 at 11:29 AM

I endorse the liberal commmunist over the RINO McCain. At least there will be truth in what stance the commie takes.

McCain should have taken to the glue factory after November 2008.

Kuffar on July 22, 2013 at 11:29 AM

McCain makes sure the world knows who he’s favoritin’ and, well, it’s because he’s McCain. Everyone drop their forks and spoons, it’s McCain. Talking. Or something like it.

Lourdes on July 22, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Remind me again how Liz Cheney is associated with the Tea Party movement? I don’t recall her being a leading voice in TP rallies.

conservative pilgrim on July 22, 2013 at 11:30 AM

You know this race only gets good when Palin weighs in and endorses a candidate. Then the blogosphere will have an eruption.

conservative pilgrim on July 22, 2013 at 11:32 AM

It’ll be a sad day for the Republican party

Ouch. Now that has to hurt.

conservative pilgrim on July 22, 2013 at 11:33 AM

I am greatly supportive of Liz Cheney in public office. But I do wonder why she’s opted to enter her career in that regard by opposing Enzi, who isn’t all that objectionable from what I’ve read (I’m sure someone will provide the negatives, though, that I’m not yet aware of about him).

What’s the critical edge that Enzi takes that Cheney is opposed to or, rather, offering a difference from? Anyone know?

I like Cheney for Congress quite a bit, but this race against Enzi seems strange.

Meanwhile, when and if McCain can do the worst thing for everyone else, apparently he does it.

Lourdes on July 22, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Tough call here for Maverick. Does he strike a blow for incumbency by backing his pal Mike, even though it means siding with “wacko bird” nemesis, Rand Paul? Or does he strike a blow for interventionism by endorsing the tea-party favorite Cheney?

Yeah, tough call. Does he support a long-time serving Senator, or the daughter of Bush’s VP? Well, we all know how he feels about GWB, and how he feels about lifetime Senators, so…hmmm…how will he choose?

Seriously, AP?

Chris of Rights on July 22, 2013 at 11:34 AM

He’s been at odds with Dick sporadically for at least 10 years

Hmmm, so this is a bit of family feudin’? McCain would publicly announce support any opponent of a Cheney?

hawkeye54 on July 22, 2013 at 11:35 AM

A hole bunch of republicans are afraid that if elected Lynn will become the face of the republican party and they will loose their face time on TV.

meci on July 22, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Cheney: “if McCain is our nominee, it will be a sad day for the Republican party”.

That pretty much sums it up.

WisRich on July 22, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Remind me again how Liz Cheney is associated with the Tea Party movement? I don’t recall her being a leading voice in TP rallies.

conservative pilgrim on July 22, 2013 at 11:30 AM

I can’t address that question of yours, specifically, but look at the bright side of things in this regard: Liz Cheney as someone associated with the Tea Party adds increased credibility to the Tea Party to counter all the crazy-negative-hate-propaganda about the TP by the crazy, crazed Left/Progressives in Congress.

So whether she wins or loses, having her associated with the TP does lend increased substance to the TP. Does no harm, makes a contribution of credibility.

Lourdes on July 22, 2013 at 11:37 AM

…Maverick might be seen as a respected elder statesman by Wyoming Republicans who don’t follow politics closely even though the national base rants about him daily.

I’m sure he is seen as such by lower info righties, and that fact is beyond depressing. There’s little to admire about a man who will trade in whatever principles he claims to have, or trash the colleagues on HIS side of the aisle, or adopt lefty talking points, just for a spot on the Sunday talk show circuit.

I wish he’d switch parties, as I think he’d do less damage to the GOP as a Dem.

changer1701 on July 22, 2013 at 11:38 AM

The more Mc Cain campaigns for Enzi, the better Ms. Cheney chances.

celtic warrior on July 22, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Notice McCain waited until the initial Cheney/Enzi poll results came out for a HUGH Enzi advantage before he backed anybody? He’s siding with the winner to be a perceived Kingmaker.

Nethicus on July 22, 2013 at 11:42 AM

I endorse anyone who is already elected…we don’t want any changes…

right2bright on July 22, 2013 at 11:42 AM

I wish he’d switch parties, as I think he’d do less damage to the GOP as a Dem.

changer1701 on July 22, 2013 at 11:38 AM

McCain publicly boasted about him being a Progressive years ago, and that “there is little difference between” him and Hillary — boasting with that at his “close relationship” with Hillary Clinton back before Obama was the DNC nominee (and likely, McCain had his eyes on being in Hillary’s cabinet, assuming he was then that she’d win the Presidency and he’d, of course, lose if the GOP nominee).

So McCain *IS* pretty well a Democrat — certainly a Progressive by his own boastful admission and proud of it. He damages the GOP at every possible turn.

I just wish he’d go away. Retire already. His wife and family, as he is, are Liberals. Not only Liberals, but Progressives. He’s proud of that as they seem also to be.

And their insistence on being Republican seems mostly to be a Progressive assumption that they own or control the GOP, so “to be Republican” is what they say it is, and that is, Progressive.

In the McCain/family view, that is (not mine, theirs).

Lourdes on July 22, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Yet another reason to find the Enzi/Cheney race fascinating.

Allah is still trying to make this relevant…so he brings race into it! – Emily Litella.

kirkill on July 22, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Lourdes on July 22, 2013 at 11:43 AM

But everyone knows that already ^^.

Sorry for restating the obvious.

Lourdes on July 22, 2013 at 11:44 AM

I have a feeling it won’t make any difference who McLame endorses or who wins.

LegendHasIt on July 22, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Cheney is a Washington DC area politico who “moved” to Wyoming about a year ago, imo, only hoping that she could soon move back beltway-side (perhaps into the same home she left) with the cache of elective office to boost her National political career objectives. I agree with her on many issues. I’d be all for her running for office in Virginia where she’s lived and worked, where her kids have attended school, but detest this cynical approach to obtain what she probably sees as easy pickins’ in Wyoming. If she were actually from Wyoming, if her “tree” stood there above her “roots,” or ever had, she’d know what a bad idea this really is. I predict she’ll lose decisively after having made a lot of Wyomingites really mad, tarnishing her family rep there and ruining any future potential for office in that state which she otherwise might have had…if only she’d waited a few years and actually transplanted her “tree” to the state to join her “roots.” Where will she (and her career and her strong voice for conservatism) be then?

limmo on July 22, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Message to Sen. Enzi, make a call to McCain and tell him to stop “helping”. Immediately.

Cindy Munford on July 22, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Since we are talking about crazy old men…. How about the Geraldo?

OliverB on July 22, 2013 at 11:48 AM

limmo on July 22, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Didn’t she go to school there and hasn’t the family had a home there for quite a while. I believe VP Cheney changed his primary residence to Wyoming for the run with W since both candidates can’t be from the same place.

Cindy Munford on July 22, 2013 at 11:48 AM

OliverB on July 22, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Nooo, don’t take about him!!!

Cindy Munford on July 22, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Just glad I don’t live in Where-oming…

Marcola on July 22, 2013 at 11:54 AM

OliverB on July 22, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Nooo, don’t take about him!!!

Cindy Munford on July 22, 2013 at 11:48 AM

That was actually taken off his e-harmony account….

OliverB on July 22, 2013 at 11:55 AM

This McLame fellow seems to be on the wrong side of everything??

redguy on July 22, 2013 at 11:56 AM

My current fear with the “maverick” is that he is going to want to bailout bankrupt towns and states. We have to resist McCain as much we do Obama.

thuja on July 22, 2013 at 11:57 AM

The only worse endorsement Liz could get would be from Obama or Hillary!

inspectorudy on July 22, 2013 at 12:01 PM

I’ve looked at a lot of comments at various sites since Cheney announced that she planned to run for the Wyoming senate seat. A lot of people seem to have the opinion that since Enzi is not really a bad Senator, no one should challenge him for the seat. Why is that? What gives him the right to that seat over Cheney or anyone else? The fact that he currently holds the seat should not prevent anyone who thinks he/she can do a better job from running for the job.

Cheney decided she wants to run for Senate from Wyoming. People can either vote for her or not. I don’t see the problem with it that some want to make of it. Does she have the potential to be a good Senator? Who knows. The people in Wyoming will decide.

NoNails on July 22, 2013 at 12:02 PM

I have a feeling it won’t make any difference who McLame endorses or who wins.

LegendHasIt on July 22, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Indeed. This won’t either.

The McCains, Boehners, McConnels, Roves and etc. are the biggest problems of the land. They enabled the impertinent leftist leeches and bloodsuckers of the world.

The West, incl. America, is gone. It’s just a matter of fixing the funeral.

Rome lasted a few hundred years because there were no computers, internet and etc.

Schadenfreude on July 22, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Liz, like her mom, won’t shy away from calling out bs when she sees it. Busting up Enzi’s cabal will be a good thing. How the heck log has he been there?

bill glass on July 22, 2013 at 12:03 PM

McCain’s endorsement is reason enough to vote for Not Mike Enzi (i.e. anyone else).

Vancomycin on July 22, 2013 at 11:26 AM

I wonder if McCain even has a clue that his endorsement for Enzi may give the race to Cheney…..

dentarthurdent on July 22, 2013 at 12:04 PM

cindy…
Dick Cheney was born in Nebraska and moved to Wyoming by 1955. Lynne grew up in Casper and I believe she was born there. Both Lynne and Dick graduated from high school in Casper. Dick attended the University of Wyoming. Liz says in her campaign literature that she attended an elementary and junior high in Casper but doesn’t give dates. I can’t find specific info but I doubt she was there for long. According to Wikipedia, she was born in Wisconsin in 1966. By 1969 Dick was in and out of various political jobs in Washington DC, so I assume his family was with him although I supposed they could have returned to Wyoming at times. I believe he did return to run for the House of Reps, to which he was elected in 1978. It would be instructive to know how long Liz attended school in Wyoming but her literature does not say. It says she was 12 when she left but leaves out how old she was when she arrived.

limmo on July 22, 2013 at 12:07 PM

AZ should do to McLame what IN did with Lugar (who was MUCH better than McCain.) Bu-Bye.

IrishEyes on July 22, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Dang it,…..doesn’t Mc…Cain have a fence to build!

Now,stop harrassing Liz Capt’n Queeg of the 08′ Mutiny!
(snark)

canopfor on July 22, 2013 at 12:16 PM

limmo on July 22, 2013 at 12:07 PM

She went to college in Colorado and Chicago. I’m kind of surprised that she supposedly can’t win in VA, they love the military contracts there and she loves the military. Anyway, I don’t think she can be called a carpetbagger but I don’t know why Enzi is who she decided to go after.

Cindy Munford on July 22, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Didn’t she go to school there and hasn’t the family had a home there for quite a while. I believe VP Cheney changed his primary residence to Wyoming for the run with W since both candidates can’t be from the same place.

Cindy Munford on July 22, 2013 at 11:48 AM

No, she went to school in Virginia, Colorado College, and the University of Chicago School of Law. She’s a card-carrying member of the Beltway Gentry along with her lobbyist husband looking to upgrade to the Senatorial class.

I hear you get your name in the Social Register once you’re elected to the Senatorial class. Then again, she’s probably already in it due to daddy’s tenure as VP.

Punchenko on July 22, 2013 at 12:17 PM

Can’t endorse candidates too soon I guess. Especially if you’re an attention whoring RINO whose every move is calculated to paint himself as an indispensable voice of reason.

Akzed on July 22, 2013 at 12:18 PM

I really don’t understand her desire to primary him, other than she’s ambitious and wants the power. And that’s fine to do, but if it’s about trying to change Congress or any other such nonsense, I think I’ll have to call BS on that.

Someone who grew up in a political atmosphere her entire life, she is going to be just another “good old boy” if she gets elected.

ButterflyDragon on July 22, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Another reason to vote for Liz!

lhuffman34 on July 22, 2013 at 12:21 PM

uh oh, the kiss of death from McFenceBuilder

burserker on July 22, 2013 at 12:22 PM

My current fear with the “maverick” is that he is going to want to bailout bankrupt towns and states. We have to resist McCain as much we do Obama.

thuja on July 22, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Resisting McCain is identical to resisting Obama, as in the end McCain will end up voting for what Obama wants.

As far as Wyoming is concerned, I have no dog in that fight; having left the Republican party in disgust in January and being from Colorado. Enzi’s profile is pretty low here. Other than being a long entrenched Republican office holder [which does argue for his replacement] has he openly sided with the Left on any major issues, or openly sided with the Institutional Republicans against the party base on any major issues?

Has Cheney supported the TEA Party in Wyoming, or is calling her a “TEA Party favorite” a media equivalent of sticking pins in a voodoo doll? Here in Colorado, she has no prominence in the TEA Party that I can see.

That said, an endorsement by McCain is awfully close to justifying a contribution to Cheney.

Subotai Bahadur on July 22, 2013 at 12:22 PM

If McCain were smart…

Nevermind.

coldwarrior on July 22, 2013 at 12:23 PM

limmo on July 22, 2013 at 12:07 PM

it’s all very interesting but also very irrelevant. all that matters is what wyoming requires for residency and if they voters of wyoming want to give her their vote.

chasdal on July 22, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Cindy,
Don’t think that Liz has Wyoming ties strong enough that she will be elected to represent the people of that state…. Her mom and dad, Dick and Lynne, are from Wyoming. Liz is not. She’s grown up herself and raised her family in the DC area. She graduated from high school in Virginia. She only bought a house in WY last year. I can find no evidence that either she or her husband has ever worked in Wyoming. This run stands to make a lot of Wyomingite really angry and could cost her future elections in the state. I seriously doubt she has a chance in this one.

limmo on July 22, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Some amateur psychologizing:

I think McCain is disturbed in a kind of high-functioning way. I think he has a deep and conflicted psychosis about authority — an extreme physical masochism which can appear as courage, and an overweening moral weakness and need to please or appease. He loves confounding expectations, being viewed as the “maverick”, a role he clearly relishes to the point it seems really like his passive-aggressive way of saying “f*ck you” to his father. I think something happened to him as a POW but that his issues (raging father issues) predated that.

Nothing he does should be seen outside his pathology, i.e., should be understood foremost as an expression of his disturbance. This doesn’t mean anything he does or says might end up as a disaster only that the real reasons for it arise out of his psychosis.

rrpjr on July 22, 2013 at 12:28 PM

This endorsing stuff…

If McCain were a rancher in Wyoming, or owned a business in Wyoming, or just pumped diesel in Little America…then, maybe his endorsement would be worth something to the voters of Wyoming.

If I were Enzi, I’d tell McCain to shut up.

A McCain endorsement is worth its weight in horse hockey.

And could be the kiss of death when the folks in Wyoming see the people Enzi hangs with.

coldwarrior on July 22, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Says who?

Caiwyn on July 22, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Well, isn’t that kind of the problem with the Tea Party? Who speaks for them? Who says who is in their good graces or not? The TP is a loose affiliation of interest groups, mostly agreed on the need for smaller government, but not unanimous on even that.

MJBrutus on July 22, 2013 at 12:29 PM

To remind all – Liz Cheney is not the TEA party.

Enzi is the top dog for internet taxes.

Schadenfreude on July 22, 2013 at 12:36 PM

I really doubt the people of Wyoming need anyone to tell them which candidate to vote for. If they like Enzi and the job he is doing they will see no reason to vote for someone new just for the sake of new.

Rose on July 22, 2013 at 12:36 PM

A McCain endorsement is worth its weight in horse hockey.
coldwarrior on July 22, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Actually, it’s worth something to Cheney. Watch her use it against Enzi. That’s the game she’ll be playing, and it has a good chance of working.

rrpjr on July 22, 2013 at 12:37 PM

MJBrutus on July 22, 2013 at 12:29 PM

That’s true for me, I think of them as local entity, I tend to cringe at those speaking on a national level. That said, I may have to get over it since the Republicans don’t seem to be worth a sh!t.

Cindy Munford on July 22, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Rose on July 22, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Yep, the people of Wyoming will decide and that works for me.

Cindy Munford on July 22, 2013 at 12:39 PM

chasdal-
True that if Wyoming wants Cheney, then they’ll elect her…although, based on what I know about Wyoming, I doubt that will happen. But personally, I despair of a entitled political class growing up and/or and living and making their careers in the beltway, then going out into other areas hoping to get elected NOT mainly to represent people from that state but in order so they can move back to DC with more power and a stronger career path than when they left. That’s really not what the founding fathers intended when they wrote the constitution.

limmo on July 22, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Cindy Munford on July 22, 2013 at 12:38 PM

I’ve noticed the tone of your posts have changed. Is someone using your name?

Rose on July 22, 2013 at 12:40 PM

McCain is a horse’s ass

deedtrader on July 22, 2013 at 12:41 PM

McCain likes Enzi because he’s a reliable tool to McCain. McCain has seen enough of these upstarts and doesn’t need another. McCain thinks that he is president of the GOP. If that is true then the GOP needs to be replaced.

P.S. McCain STFUA

rik on July 22, 2013 at 12:45 PM

To remind all – Liz Cheney is not the TEA party.

Enzi is the top dog for internet taxes.

and therein lies the problem with the GOP, they are stones throw from the socialist liberals; and thats why I will only vote Libertarian

burserker on July 22, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Anyone that believes a Cheney anything can get elected anywhere is high as a kite.

Moesart on July 22, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Well, at least Enzi has locked down the pissed-off, half-senile, squishy RINO endorsement

PJ Emeritus on July 22, 2013 at 12:54 PM

My current fear with the “maverick” is that he is going to want to bailout bankrupt towns and states. We have to resist McCain as much we do Obama.

thuja on July 22, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Can we just get the big hook they used to use in vaudeville and yank him off the stage the next time he’s blathering incoherently on one of the Sunday shows?

CaptFlood on July 22, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Well, that’s all I needed to know. She’s got my support!

Dr Snooze on July 22, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Yeah, yeah, we get it! McCain is a liberal democrat still posing as a republican. There are two too many stories about him on this site today. What will be done to get rid of him? He has lived off surviving a Vietnamese prison camp long enough. He should have gone quietly into the night after losing to a socialist-Marxist like Obama in ’08 if he had any true dignity. I only wish Liz Cheney was primarying him in AZ. What will be done to rid the GOP of him in that state? I am tired of those such as McCain thinking they have power for life!

Rockshine on July 22, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Well, that’s good enough for me. She’s got my vote.

Dr Snooze on July 22, 2013 at 12:59 PM

The sooner McCain gets on Helen Thomas’ dance card, the better off we’ll all be.

bw222 on July 22, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Cheney on Rush now

bluefox on July 22, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Rose on July 22, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Nope, it’s me. How have they changed? Don’t worry about hurting my feelings, it can’t be done.

Cindy Munford on July 22, 2013 at 1:10 PM

Cindy,
Your posts were always firm but lady like and mature. I just don’t remember you using some of the language that seems to be popping up on your posts. But the way things are going I can see how we all are getting fed up and angry.

Rose on July 22, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Cheney on Rush now

bluefox on July 22, 2013 at 1:09 PM

A bunch of platitudes so far. Not impressed.

rrpjr on July 22, 2013 at 1:20 PM

Rose on July 22, 2013 at 1:17 PM

You are correct, I am pretty annoyed most of the time. No excuse of the poor choice in language, except that sometimes it fits. Not as often as I use it though. I’ve always believed that one man couldn’t do much to our country, even in eight years and that is probably still true but, between Obama and an overly compliant media, I feel pretty hopeless occasionally.

Cindy Munford on July 22, 2013 at 1:23 PM

McCain+Romney=Obama! Go Liz!

tomshup on July 22, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Wow, Rush is big Liz Cheney fan. Not often do you hear him endorse anyone so much.

petefrt on July 22, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Alternate headline: Enzi Campaign Now In Serious Trouble.

SagebrushPuppet on July 22, 2013 at 1:32 PM

This is going to be tough, I think both of these folks are good. I do get a bit tired of the entrenched politicians but it will hurt Liz’s brand if she loses. Can’t she run for governor instead?

Cindy Munford on July 22, 2013 at 1:32 PM

Remind me again how Liz Cheney is associated with the Tea Party movement? I don’t recall her being a leading voice in TP rallies.

conservative pilgrim on July 22, 2013 at 11:30 AM

She is not. She carefully kept the lint off her sweater

You know this race only gets good when Palin weighs in and endorses a candidate. Then the blogosphere will have an eruption.

conservative pilgrim on July 22, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Agree

Understand a McCain (or other) endorsement does not always mean endorsement. Sometimes it means strategy

Recall how Rubio was fronted as an anti amnesty tea party candidate for the Senate. [supposedly running against the Club]. But, the fronter was Cesar Conda, Dick Cheney’s former aide, a pro amnesty immigration lawyer. Conda, Liz Cheney, and Ryan were part of the group hosting the Rubio for Senate debut. Conda is now Rubio’s chief of staff, and has been a lynchpin of the gang of eight/Boehner bait and switch amnesty strategy

Right at this moment, Liz Cheney is on Rush talking about freedom of speech, religion, gun rights…how we must elect strong constitutional conservatives. yada.

It is easy to say you would have voted against the Senate Gang of Eight bill, but it is hard to take a stark upfront stand against amnesty, dream act, drivers licenses for illegals

Rush says Enzi fished together with her Dad. She said “I believe they fished together once.

hand slap

That was the wrong answer. Especially if true. The correct answer would have been to ignore the implication, say something nice about your opponent – like I have met his wife – and seize the chance to explain the reason it is so important to displace him. For instance criticize any of his votes.

Yakking about needing new blood is skirting the issues

Rush handed her a soft landing. I distrust her. She had a moment of truth when she could have taken a position but she hid in platitudes. IMHO she is being fronted by the Club

entagor on July 22, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Yep, the people of Wyoming will decide and that works for me.

Cindy Munford on July 22, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Hate to type it, but it ain’t necessarily so.

Since Wyoming is so red, the primary seems to be the only election that really counts.

Thusly, lets look at recent history, shall we?

The people of Delaware’s GOP decided who their candidate would be. The national GOP, in cahoots with the defeated GOP candidate, actively worked against their own party’s candidate.

The people of Alaska’s GOP decided who their candidate would be. The national GOP, in cahoots with … repeat, rinse, recycle the above paragraph.

So.

If the people of Wyoming’s GOP decide their candidate is Liz Cheney, will the national GOP, in cahoots with … you know the rest?

QUITE. LIKELY.

IMO.

So.

As far as Cheney being DC-connected, etc., that’s true, but national GOP has currently circled the wagons against her.

Odd as it is, she is running as an outsider.

hrh40 on July 22, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Cindy Munford on July 22, 2013 at 1:23 PM

I see. I’m sorry I mentioned anything. I just have noticed a bit of a change lately.

Rose on July 22, 2013 at 1:37 PM

I posted this on anothe HA thread and will repost it here.

The fact that Liz Cheney has decided to run against another Republican Conservative raises a red flag for me.

Second, she didn’t choose to run against the Dems in her State of VA is another.

We need to ADD Conservatives, not replace them in the Senate.

Thirdly, she’s too close to the Bush/Cheney/Rove clan.

Fourthly, I’m not convinced at all that she is a Conservative.

We’ve had Immigration, Obamacare, Gun Control and many other issues and I’ve not heard her speak out at all on any of them. She may have and perhaps I missed them.

Haven’t heard anything until she announced she’s running for Enzi’s Senate seat.

Right now, I’m a no.

I’m sticking with Rand Paul also.

bluefox on July 22, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Cheney hasn’t really explained why Wyoming should pick a woman from the DC beltway whose parents and grandparents lived and worked in and for Wyoming but whose own ties to WY are tenuous, new and likely politically motivated over a man who has a long history of service to the state, who has actually lived and worked there and who travels the state seeking the views of his fellow Wyomingites. Rush likes her though. Hanity and other pundits probably will too. And, I think that’s the point, Cheney isn’t trying to represent Wyoming or even running there. She’s launched a National campaign for National support to advance HER political ambitions. No doubt many who live in other states will love hearing Cheney and support her seeking political office, from WY just as they would have if she’d run from VA. But will the people from Wyoming?

limmo on July 22, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Cheney on Rush now

bluefox on July 22, 2013 at 1:09 PM

A bunch of platitudes so far. Not impressed.

rrpjr on July 22, 2013 at 1:20 PM

That’s what I heard also. If it hadn’t been for Rush asking somewhat pertinent questions, she would have had nothing to say at all. She added nothing to what Rush said. Wrong answers imo.

bluefox on July 22, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Rose on July 22, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Don’t be sorry, I appreciate it. My use of that language is lazy and really questions whether I had anything pertinent to say in the first place.

Cindy Munford on July 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM

I was against Cheney’s Enzi challenge. Now that McCain has announced, I’ve changed my mind.

MTF on July 22, 2013 at 1:44 PM

limmo on July 22, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Apparently Hannity has already endorsed her. I truly question the value of that. And Rush to, for that matter. I know after two Obama wins it’s hard to do, but we should trust the people of Wyoming.

Cindy Munford on July 22, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Wow, Rush is big Liz Cheney fan. Not often do you hear him endorse anyone so much.

petefrt on July 22, 2013 at 1:30 PM

Sounded like it to me. She just stated what we already know i.e. Obama’s policies. She defended the Republican party and made excuses for them not doing anything to counter the Administration’s/Dems policies. She also used the “we” too much Should have used “they” if she wants a change in the RINO party!!

She didn’t sound any different than the current R party. Excuses, excuses. I had a boss tell me once, he didn’t want excuses, he wanted results:-)

bluefox on July 22, 2013 at 1:51 PM

McCain is an extremely vindictive politician.

Enzi voted against McCain’s life work. Sometimes Senators are given permission by the Club to vote against a bill, if their vote is not needed to pass the bill.

However Enzi and Barasso issued a joint statement against the bill, which went farther than they ever had to go on a ‘no’ vote.

“We can all agree that our immigration system needs to be fixed, but this bill fails to address too many key issues for me to support it,” Enzi said. “In order for immigration reform to work, we must have a strong, workable employment verification system in place. If we can ensure that only legal job seekers gain employment in this country, then we remove the incentive for illegal immigration.

“The bill also fails to prevent non-citizens from receiving welfare and tax benefits and fails to fully address border security and border enforcement,” he said. “Had more amendments been allowed, and if we had addressed the underlying issues individually, we could have made some commonsense changes that would have allowed everyone’s voice to be heard. Our constituents didn’t send us to Washington to get something done quickly, they sent us here to get it right.”

They are among the few who implied illegal workers take jobs from citizen. This statement contains all the hard core anti amnesty arguments

Why would McCain the Grudge Holder suddenly embrace a traitor to his vision?

Well, why would the Club act as if Rubio was an anti amnesty tea party upstart, when he was being fronted by the pro-amnesty crowd?

Enzi issued a hard core anti amnesty screed. What would it take to push voters away from Enzi?

How about a kiss from the Godfather of Amnesty

entagor on July 22, 2013 at 1:52 PM

McCain’s endorsement is reason enough to vote for Not Mike Enzi (i.e. anyone else).

Vancomycin on July 22, 2013 at 11:26 AM

this ….

conservative tarheel on July 22, 2013 at 1:55 PM

I posted this on anothe HA thread and will repost it here.

The fact that Liz Cheney has decided to run against another Republican Conservative raises a red flag for me.

Second, she didn’t choose to run against the Dems in her State of VA is another.

We need to ADD Conservatives, not replace them in the Senate.

Thirdly, she’s too close to the Bush/Cheney/Rove clan.

Fourthly, I’m not convinced at all that she is a Conservative.

We’ve had Immigration, Obamacare, Gun Control and many other issues and I’ve not heard her speak out at all on any of them. She may have and perhaps I missed them.

Haven’t heard anything until she announced she’s running for Enzi’s Senate seat.

Right now, I’m a no.

I’m sticking with Rand Paul also.

bluefox on July 22, 2013 at 1:40 PM

I like this post (saw it the first time as well.) Liz comes off as dour & snippy, so there’s that, too.

If she wants to convince people like us that she is running against Enzi for righteous, non-personal reasons, she is going to have to change her tactics drastically.

Anti-Control on July 22, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Cindy Munford on July 22, 2013 at 1:43 PM

I defer to your sense of yourself, but my current maxim is do not apologize.

I am increasingly drawn to Orwell’s injunction that to fight to survive you need to fight dirty. For way too long we’ve sweated out a self-imposed civility in the face of a savage onslaught. It’s not working. I’m afraid we’re going to have to learn behaviors that may feel uncomfortable and even unpleasant to us. We need to trust ourselves and understand that in this new world, this Lord of the Flies existence in which the Left has forced us, we are going to have take on savage and pitiless qualities. It is adapt or die. Embrace the anger, throw some profanity around and kick below the belt now and then. It doesn’t mean you are “changing for the worse” or becoming a monster. It means you’re disgusted and are fighting not just to survive but to win. Mincing words and taking pride in our “maturity” ain’t cutting it anymore.

rrpjr on July 22, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Rush handed her a soft landing. I distrust her. She had a moment of truth when she could have taken a position but she hid in platitudes. IMHO she is being fronted by the Club

entagor on July 22, 2013 at 1:33 PM

I agree. Where has this self described “Constitutionalist Conservative” been since 2008?

Nothing has stopped Sarah Palin speaking out, but for some reason Liz Cheney hasn’t.

I also agree with this: “Understand a McCain (or other) endorsement does not always mean endorsement. Sometimes it means strategy” That is McCain’s tactic imo.

bluefox on July 22, 2013 at 2:04 PM

McCain’s endorsement is reason enough to vote for Not Mike Enzi (i.e. anyone else).

Vancomycin on July 22, 2013 at 11:26 AM

this ….

conservative tarheel on July 22, 2013 at 1:55 PM

This:

Enzi issued a hard core anti amnesty screed. What would it take to push voters away from Enzi?

How about a kiss from the Godfather of Amnesty

entagor on July 22, 2013 at 1:52 PM

Anti-Control on July 22, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Odd as it is, she is running as an outsider.

hrh40 on July 22, 2013 at 1:36 PM

I don’t agree she’s an outsider, not even in Wyoming. Otherwise, why choose Wyoming? She’s certainly not an outsider in D.C. or with the RNC/Bush/Cheney/Rove/RNSC.

Let’s see how fast that cabal backs her:-) You know, that group that hates Conservatives and Tea Party members & especially Sarah!!

She chose Wyoming because of her Dad’s connections and where else better to replace a Conservative Republican?

bluefox on July 22, 2013 at 2:15 PM

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