Open thread: Sunday morning talking heads

posted at 8:01 am on July 21, 2013 by Allahpundit

I put Ted Cruz’s photo on the front page because he has so many fans among our readership but the newsiest interview this morning will probably be Boehner on CBS. That’s where we’ll get a clue as to whether House Republicans are warming to the idea of a DREAM-type amnesty for young illegals or whether that’s headed down the tubes because of the Hastert Rule.

Cruz will be on ABC to talk 2016, his support for Kirsten Gillibrand’s bill creating a new system to prosecute military sexual assault incidents, and, if we’re lucky, whether he’s inclined to endorse in the Enzi/Cheney race in Wyoming. Hopefully he’ll talk foreign policy too. Peter King (who’ll be on NBC this a.m.) keeps lumping him in with Rand Paul as part of the new isolationist wing in the Senate, but I’m not sure that’s fair. Maybe Cruz will clear things up today.

Meanwhile, expect plenty of chatter about Detroit’s bankruptcy on the panel discussions of each show, as well as the requisite cooing about how important and profound Obama’s comments about the Zimmerman trial were. The full line-up is at Politico.


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You rock. You know that you’re a bigot. But you’re too big of a coward to admit it even though your words belie that obvious truth.

Capitalist Hog on July 21, 2013 at 11:18 AM

You know you could make a much more compelling case if you simply answered his question.

Oldnuke on July 21, 2013 at 11:24 AM

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Cindy Munford on July 21, 2013 at 11:18 AM

That’s your typical response to bigotry. That’s the typical response of most on the right unless it’s directed at the new intrapartyracialposterchild.

You believe that blacks are inherently criminal and stupid too? Or are you just defending them because you need to stay in with the crowd?

Capitalist Hog on July 21, 2013 at 11:24 AM

Is McCain trying to capture the “Lion of the Senate” crown left open by the death of Teddy? Should have the Lyin’ of the Senate.

Cindy Munford on July 21, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Probably, which does not bode well for replacing him.

I wonder if he thinks he’ll get Teddy’s old office. That was actually the Senate Minority Leader’s office, but Teddy somehow grabbed it. (Hey, he’s a Kennedy! His brothers were assassinated!). Even had a balcony. Scott Brown got it temporarily, but when they did the musical offices after the election, McConnell moved in.

Wethal on July 21, 2013 at 11:24 AM

Oldnuke on July 21, 2013 at 11:24 AM

Not case, narrative.

Bmore on July 21, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Capitalist Hog on July 21, 2013

…just…a dumb pig!

KOOLAID2 on July 21, 2013 at 11:29 AM

You know you could make a much more compelling case if you simply answered his question.

Oldnuke on July 21, 2013 at 11:24 AM

No dipshite.

If you believe that blacks are inherently criminal and/or stupid you need to explain yourself. I don’t need to justify my belief.

Race does not determine intellect or criminality.

Capitalist Hog on July 21, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Just love coming to HA on a Sunday to be baited by a race baiting troll./

Bmore on July 21, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Capitalist Hog on July 21, 2013 at 11:18 AM

Who you gonna believe the bigots or you lying eyes? And if nothing else they are entertaining. Or maybe it’s their ethics that are the problem? Nope, can’t be that. It’s that we are all bigots and racists, the all purpose never ending get out of responsibility free excuse that works every time it is used.

Cindy Munford on July 21, 2013 at 11:30 AM

You know you could make a much more compelling case if you simply answered his question.

Oldnuke on July 21, 2013 at 11:24 AM

No dipshite.

If you believe that blacks are inherently criminal and/or stupid you need to explain yourself. I don’t need to justify my belief.

Race does not determine intellect or criminality.

Capitalist Hog on July 21, 2013 at 11:29 AM

So you can’t do it?

Oldnuke on July 21, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Bore

Bmore on July 21, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Race does not determine intellect or criminality.

Capitalist Hog on July 21, 2013 at 11:29 AM

What about crime statistics?

Why are you Anti-Science?

sentinelrules on July 21, 2013 at 11:30 AM

No dipshite.

Oldnuke on July 21, 2013 at 11:30 AM

If you’re going to call me name please spell them correctly.

Oldnuke on July 21, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Race does not determine intellect or criminality.

Capitalist Hog on July 21, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Now I absolutely agree with that but the one thing you can’t get around is that the aforementioned races overwhelmingly vote for ONE party and ideology, the Democrats. And unfortunately for your argument, that ideology leads to Detroit every time it’s tried. Socialism doesn’t work.

Cindy Munford on July 21, 2013 at 11:34 AM

No dipshite.

Oldnuke on July 21, 2013 at 11:30 AM

If you’re going to call me name names please spell them correctly.

Oldnuke on July 21, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Dang! Glass houses and all that. :-)

Oldnuke on July 21, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Bmore on July 21, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Why should today be any different?

Cindy Munford on July 21, 2013 at 11:42 AM

I’m so glad Dear Leader spoke out about the Zimmerman case. Otherwise, the Sunday shows would have had to lead with the Detroit story.

d1carter on July 21, 2013 at 11:47 AM

So far, according to Hot Air comments, black-Americans are inherently criminal and stupid.

Capitalist Hog on July 21, 2013 at 10:41 AM

…I think the Pig…is Bobby Rush’s campaign manager!

KOOLAID2 on July 21, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Bore

Bmore on July 21, 2013 at 11:30 AM

….Boar

KOOLAID2 on July 21, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Race does not determine intellect or criminality.

Capitalist Hog on July 21, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Key word – determine. You make a correct and utterly pointless point.

Jaibones on July 21, 2013 at 12:07 PM

I don’t question Cruz’s conservative “credentials” but he always seems canned and stilted to me, and not capable of the sort of natural, everyman warrior indignation we need to take on the Left.

rrpjr on July 21, 2013 at 9:55 AM

It’s probably difficult to maintain your momentum, focus, motivation, and gravitas when you’re the only one doing it.

Cleombrotus on July 21, 2013 at 12:23 PM

See Derbyshire for details.

Jaibones on July 21, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Who you gonna believe the bigots or you lying eyes? And if nothing else they are entertaining. Or maybe it’s their ethics that are the problem? Nope, can’t be that. It’s that we are all bigots and racists, the all purpose never ending get out of responsibility free excuse that works every time it is used.

Cindy Munford on July 21, 2013 at 11:30 AM

:) next the trollish character will say that you are a passive-aggressive bigot :) (not sure, is that even possible? :)

jimver on July 21, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Race does not determine intellect or criminality.

Capitalist Hog on July 21, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Duh…

jimver on July 21, 2013 at 12:30 PM

Race does not determine intellect or criminality.

Capitalist Hog on July 21, 2013 at 11:29 AM

The destruction of the family determines criminality in western society. And the black and hispanic family unit has been destroyed, take it from this Mexican, I know this first hand. That’s why you have a per capita disproportion of black and hispanic prison population.

Also, there are clearly differences in intellect amongst different racial groups. Its just a fact.

Generally speaking, most can pass rigorous intellectual courses if they simply work hard, but there will definitely be degrees of results depending on the racial group.

True_King on July 21, 2013 at 12:30 PM

jimver on July 21, 2013 at 12:28 PM

As we know, it doesn’t have to be true or possible.

Cindy Munford on July 21, 2013 at 12:32 PM

True_King on July 21, 2013 at 12:30 PM

I don’t know why the equalization of women required the destruction of men but that has been the outcome. But that seems to be the formula for all the these movements.

Cindy Munford on July 21, 2013 at 12:34 PM

True_King on July 21, 2013 at 12:30 PM

Good try but there’s none so blind as he who will not see.

Cleombrotus on July 21, 2013 at 12:38 PM

I thought Cruz did a great job with the MFM “interview” today. Not understanding the negative comments here.

cdog0613 on July 21, 2013 at 12:38 PM

cdog0613 on July 21, 2013 at 12:38 PM

Conservatives have been shafted by so many of those they thought were the real deal that no trusts anyone anymore. Just sit around waiting to be betrayed and are usually rewarded.

Cindy Munford on July 21, 2013 at 12:41 PM

You know you could make a much more compelling case if you simply answered his question.

Oldnuke on July 21, 2013 at 11:24 AM

No dipshite.

If you believe that blacks are inherently criminal and/or stupid you need to explain yourself. I don’t need to justify my belief.

Race does not determine intellect or criminality.

Capitalist Hog on July 21, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Nobody on the con side here or elsewhere ever said that blacks are inherently criminal and/or stupid, but that they are statistically overwhelmingly criminal (there’s no inherent criminal trait implied) and that they act stupidly as a voting block – voting over and over again for the same people who brought financial ruin to them (case in point, Detroit), while somehow expecting a different outcome every time…as if miraculously it would happen…..sounds pretty much like the definition of insanity to me…but it’s a world of difference between acknowledging these realities and facts about the black community in this country and saying that blacks are inherently criminal and/or stupid (and note that you are the only one who makes that projection, which makes me think that you might actually have issues with race, subcounsciously or not).

jimver on July 21, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Since the George Zimmerman issue is still on the table, I have a simple question.

When GZ saw something suspicious in his neighborhood he called the police dispatch and stayed on the phone. When TM “thought” he was a target he took the law into his own hands. Isn’t that what the media claimed GZ did? TM had a cell phone too, but didn’t call the police. Why?

Paleoconservatarian on July 21, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Paleoconservatarian on July 21, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Stop asking logical questions!!!!!

Cindy Munford on July 21, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Race does not determine intellect or criminality.

Capitalist Hog on July 21, 2013 at 11:29 AM

True. Individuals, of any race, make statistics. You are absolutely right.

History does not determine behaviour either, contrary to obama’s insipid claims. No, he’s not Trayvon, not as his kid, nor 35 years ago. Those were two stupid and untrue comments.

Not all blacks are stupid but Jeantel is not smart, even if she speaks 3 languages, and English is not one of them.

Schadenfreude on July 21, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Hog, go after all the lies on TV and in print. I think you’d be excellent at it.

Schadenfreude on July 21, 2013 at 2:52 PM

Paleoconservatarian on July 21, 2013 at 2:03 PM

You racist conservative rube, you!

Schadenfreude on July 21, 2013 at 2:53 PM

Now I absolutely agree with that but the one thing you can’t get around is that the aforementioned races overwhelmingly vote for ONE party and ideology, the Democrats. And unfortunately for your argument, that ideology leads to Detroit every time it’s tried. Socialism doesn’t work.

Cindy Munford on July 21, 2013 at 11:34 AM

Duh, blacks vote democrat. Before the Mobius-strip effect of Southern Strategy they voted Republican, solidly.

What percentage of whites in your age group vote Republican? Exactly.

Is whiteness the a critical or essential component of being conservative? Nope. It just happens to coincide among a particular segment of that group, right?

What you and I know is that many on the right are as vile with their race-baiting as those on the left.

The other day there was a post featuring The Sage. Hot Air loves, Larry Elder. If you know anything about him, you’ll know he’s fond for calling out Blacks on a host of issues. It’s funny to watch you whine at the same intra-party treatment.

I don’t shrink from the fact that there are a lot of bigots on the right. You do.

As to your earlier point. I already made it for you.

In the next decade, several liberally-entrenched municipalities will be exposed for their fiscal failures. City govs in America, even in many red-states, are still run like non-profit orgs spending heavily because the state will bail them out. States with fiscal problems have large cities with fiscal problems. Large cities with fiscal problems have liberal agendas and budgets.

Capitalist Hog on July 21, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Capitalist Hog on July 21, 2013 at 4:04 PM

There are no more bigots on the Right than the Left. Do you go to Left leaning sites and take them to task for their attitudes?

Cindy Munford on July 21, 2013 at 4:28 PM

So far, according to Hot Air comments, black-Americans are inherently criminal and stupid.

Capitalist wHore on July 21, 2013 at 10:41 AM

Funny someone criticizing bigotry while using quotes from a few to disparage the many.

Irony.

CW on July 21, 2013 at 5:53 PM

I watched Fox News Sunday, thought the panel with Scott Brown was good because the nation does not know the real Scott Brown just the charachatures.

The facts Cris Wallace presented about the black on black crime were stunning. 90 something percent is black on black crime. Gee, is there any minority on minorty crime figure that would include hispanics on black and visa versa? Blacks think they are a target because of this, they don’t read statistics. They just feel like their kids can “get shot down going to the gas station” (michelle Obama) because it feels that way but nobody tells Michelle that blacks are the cause. The hysteria toward the White Hispanic is misplaced, they are in denial that they are killing their own; they are in denial that black on black crime results in the appearance that Blacks are Over Represented in the prison system.

Get that news out.

Obama condemns Zimmerman with his support for Treyvon, but where is he speaking out for the little girl who played for his inauguration. I expect to hear from him when that minority kid goes to trial. Right.

Fleuries on July 21, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Didn’t know where else to post this but after we all got a good laugh of the Perry chick on msnbc trying to blame The massive failire of progressive policies in Detroit on smaller government I saw a story on the Daily Caller of her going on air with tampons as earrings to protest the women’s health bill in Texas. You just can’t make this stuff up, there was even a picture. I might be fooled by a photoshopped gag but it is funny anyway.

Ellis on July 21, 2013 at 7:24 PM

According to the “One Drop” rule, technically, Trey v. George was also a black on black crime; and had Treyvon survived, he could easily have been charged with criminal assault. Substituting gang affiliation for lack of paternal influence certainly hasn’t served blacks or hispanics well. Most negative or positive interactions (e.g. violence) are within the socioeconomic or ethnic group one belongs to, white, black, green, tan.

trl on July 22, 2013 at 4:24 AM

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