Obama: Of course Zimmerman was guilty, but…

posted at 8:31 am on July 20, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

As you may have already heard, the President showed up in the White House briefing room on Friday to give an impromptu address to the press corps on the current state of race relations in America and how the outcome of the George Zimmerman trial is affecting same. While supporters billed the appearance as a more generic, “healing” address in troubled times, it opened and closed with comments regarding the court case in question. We can leave for another day the issue of whether the Comforter in Chief should be diving into the results of one specific trial in Florida, but there was plenty of fodder for pundits included.

To begin with, not everything the President said was out of bounds or off the mark. There are still issues of racial tension in this nation (though the inaccurate perception that it’s vastly swinging in one direction need to be addressed) and it’s a subject which merits some work. But it’s difficult to see how this particular speech was helpful in terms of easing racial tensions given one of the glaring talking points – along with an equally glaring omission – which led off the event. (The full text of remarks can be found here.)

First of all, I want to make sure that, once again, I send my thoughts and prayers, as well as Michelle’s, to the family of Trayvon Martin, and to remark on the incredible grace and dignity with which they’ve dealt with the entire situation. I can only imagine what they’re going through, and it’s remarkable how they’ve handled it.

The second thing I want to say is to reiterate what I said on Sunday, which is there’s going to be a lot of arguments about the legal issues in the case — I’ll let all the legal analysts and talking heads address those issues. The judge conducted the trial in a professional manner. The prosecution and the defense made their arguments. The juries were properly instructed that in a case such as this reasonable doubt was relevant, and they rendered a verdict. And once the jury has spoken, that’s how our system works.

The second part of the quoted text is also worthy of note, and it’s to the President’s credit. Too many people analyzing this case completely skip over the fact that there was, in fact, a trial, and that it produced a result in accordance with the law. But to backtrack just a bit, Barack Obama’s opening paragraph still essentially shoots holes in the message.

The President isn’t just talking about a family losing a son, but with “the entire situation.” The rest of the speech goes back to the well again and again, talking about gun laws and self defense and, “what would have happened if” Trayvon Martin were white. This was about the trial, and the underlying message was simple: The Martin family was ripped off by the justice system because the system is biased and a guilty man was allowed to kill their son.

How does President Obama square that with the second paragraph of his speech? There is not one ounce of recognition of the possibility that the jury arrived at the correct verdict, that Martin was the aggressor and that Zimmerman was put in a position of feeling that he had to defend his life?

This leads us to the other glaring omission. You’ll note that in the initial expressions of sympathy and understanding, George Zimmerman’s name was not mentioned once. If my previous, far fetched idea that Zimmerman was innocent – backed up only by the flimsy excuse that a court of law found him to be so – were even possibly true, was the Zimmerman family also not feeling the sting of the long, drawn out proceedings which followed and the social stigma which will be trailing George Zimmerman for the rest of his life? Was there not a moment to spare in this “historic speech” (as Wolf Blitzer later termed it) for a few thoughts for the family of the man who was found innocent?

No, there was not. And with that in mind, what was portrayed as an important address to heal the racial divide in America could, in some part, wind up being even more divisive. Perhaps there are times when it’s best for the leader of the Federal Government to stay on the sidelines in states’ issues, including high profile trials.


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OT – the Jew-hater is dead

“Helen Thomas made it possible for all of us who followed: woman pioneer journalist broke barriers died today wld have been 93 nxt month RIP,” Andrea Mitchell, the NBC News chief foreign affairs correspondent wrote.

Schadenfreude on July 20, 2013 at 11:29 AM

Jazz, you aren’t black. You wouldn’t understand where the President was coming from.

nonpartisan on July 20, 2013 at 9:10 AM

Neither is Obanal, if you want to discuss “black”. There’s nothing in his background that the average “homie” can relate to, so few of them having gone to elite private schools in Hawaii and such.

Cleombrotus on July 20, 2013 at 11:29 AM

“Helen Thomas made it possible for all of us who followed: woman pioneer journalist broke barriers died today wld have been 93 nxt month RIP,” Andrea Mitchell, the NBC News chief foreign affairs correspondent wrote.

“And there’s an investigation ongoing to determine who dropped that house on her.”

Cleombrotus on July 20, 2013 at 11:30 AM

For the Helen haters
She did have good moments in her past. Loved my late Dad and he was just to the right of Attila the Hun. And to re-post my previous:

Wow. She was very kind to me years ago. Actually took me to lunch and discourged the journalist career I was thinking of. Told me to be a high class hooker. I’d make more money and keep my self respect. Still laugh about that.
RIP, Helen.

katy the mean old lady on July 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM

katy the mean old lady on July 20, 2013 at 11:32 AM

“historic speech” (as Wolf Blitzer later termed it)

I swear, that guy (and so many other leftist sycophants) would report Obama’s daily bowel flexing as “historic”.

Midas on July 20, 2013 at 11:34 AM

The question I keep asking that no one seems to want to answer is, what was Zimmerman supposed to do? Was he supposed to be beaten to death? There was no evidence that the perpetrator was going to stop so what exactly was he supposed to do?

Capitalist Infidel on July 20, 2013 at 11:35 AM

katy the mean old lady on July 20, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Having not known her personally, and therefore having nothing but horrible things to say about her, I’ll simply make no further comment for the moment.

Midas on July 20, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Racebaiter-In-Chief panders to fellow racists.

I’m shocked (yawn), shocked!

profitsbeard on July 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM

And again. For the Helen haters
She was a welcome guest at my mother’s dinner table. A smart and funny lady. Of course, as civilized people, politics and religion are not discussed at a dinner.

katy the mean old lady on July 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM

katy the mean old lady on July 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM

The question I keep asking that no one seems to want to answer is, what was Zimmerman supposed to do? Was he supposed to be beaten to death? There was no evidence that the perpetrator was going to stop so what exactly was he supposed to do?

Capitalist Infidel on July 20, 2013 at 11:35 AM

Well, yes, you silly – apparently he was supposed to die like all the other disproportionately-caused-by-blacks murder victims.

Midas on July 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Jazz, you aren’t black. You wouldn’t understand where the President was coming from.

nonpartisan on July 20, 2013 at 9:10 AM

Is his white half dead?

You are an eternal fool. A president s/b the president of all the poeple. MLK died for nothing. Part of the land will always be self-enslaved. As long as that’s the case, enjoy your imagined tyrannies, morons of Utopia. May you all be destroyed by it.

Schadenfreude on July 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM

“the Helen haters”…she was the biggest hater of them all.

She had a choice.

Schadenfreude on July 20, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Racist-in-Chief has set race relations back 40 years. Instead of shilling for amnesty, the GOP should be using the Zimmerman case to illustrate the “War on Hispanics” by Democratics. They view everything through the prism of race.

sauldalinsky on July 20, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Is his white half dead?

Schadenfreude on July 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Only thing white about Obama is his dancing.

*snickers*

nonpartisan on July 20, 2013 at 11:41 AM

tartan on July 20, 2013 at 10:47 AM

The projection is strong with this one. tartan reads into Obama’s artful but frankly not subtle pot-stirring a magnanimity that is the facade but not the substance.

The judge conducted the trial in a professional manner. The prosecution and the defense made their arguments. The juries [sic] were properly instructed that in a case such as this reasonable doubt was relevant, and they rendered a verdict. And once the jury has spoken, that’s how our system works.

Damning by faint praise. He says nothing to validate the verdict of the jurors morally. The clear inference is that the system has reached the wrong result and the outrage of the black community is therefore justified. The modus operandi of the Alinsky student is on full display. He is inciting discontent and courting chaos, this time not only to build a crisis to exploit, but to distract form the numerous scandals that threaten to engulf his administration.

…designed to incite racial tensions while at the same time attempting to let his sorry ass appear conciliatory and healing.

bgibbs1000 on July 20, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Succinct and accurate.

novaculus on July 20, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Having not known her personally, and therefore having nothing but horrible things to say about her, I’ll simply make no further comment for the moment.

Midas on July 20, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Mom always said that if you don’t listen to another’s point of view that it limits your ability to be a complete bitch about them.

katy the mean old lady on July 20, 2013 at 11:42 AM

obama, Sharpton, Jackson, libneverfree, nonpartisan and the rest of the HA trolls, and etc. are nothing but poverty pimps.

Minorities, wake up. They keep you enslaved, for their power and gain. Go after them with all you’ve got. They don’t want you free.

If you are free they have no power. They have nothing.

Wake up, wake up!!!

Schadenfreude on July 20, 2013 at 11:42 AM

The question I keep asking that no one seems to want to answer is, what was Zimmerman supposed to do? Was he supposed to be beaten to death? There was no evidence that the perpetrator was going to stop so what exactly was he supposed to do?

Capitalist Infidel on July 20, 2013 at 11:35 AM

Die.

Freddy on July 20, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Jazz, you aren’t black. You wouldn’t understand where the President was coming from.

nonpartisan on July 20, 2013 at 9:10 AM

Just a reminder what np really thinks of black people, from an abortion thread:

I hate to say it, but while what gosnell did was morally wrong, ultimately it was probably a net positive in terms of societal costs

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:01 AM

those babies would’ve been born into households that don’t want them

the parents would’ve likely applied for welfare, etc and sucked up taxpayer money

think about it, the tsarnaevs used $100k of taxpayer money…wouldn’t the world have been much better had the tsarnaev brothers just been aborted at birth

nonpartisan on May 3, 2013 at 11:08 AM

slickwillie2001 on July 20, 2013 at 11:45 AM

The Lefties had a lot invested in this trial.
But this is a new low.
Even for Lefties.

TimBuk3 on July 20, 2013 at 11:51 AM

David Burge and Ramirez are national treasures, at the most needed time.

Get the heck over it, Barack! Get over your skin color, all you whining, pathetic, excuse-making people who have been rioting and throwing tantrums because you are upset about a correct verdict in a criminal trial. You all look act like a bunch of ignorant, bratty, immature babies!

bluegill on July 20, 2013 at 10:01 AM

More accurate, though they look it too.

Schadenfreude on July 20, 2013 at 11:51 AM

What president Obama is saying is that if Martin had been ‘Hispanic-white’ and Zimmerman black, everything would be just okay…

And, as far as the Left is concerned, he’s right.

DrDeano on July 20, 2013 at 11:52 AM

nonpartisan on July 20, 2013 at 11:41 AM

I’ll give you that. He can’t even do that right.

The only thing about obama is…”me/I/me again”.

He is clinically NPD’d. You should use your good brain better.

Schadenfreude on July 20, 2013 at 11:54 AM

Of course.

The Zimmerman show trial was all about race. Specifically, it was the claim that an innocent young black man was minding his own business, and shot by a white man who thought he didn’t belong in his (presumably elitist) gated community, and how the police just let the murderer go because he was white, and the dead kid was just black.

Race was the whole issue. It was proof of how our whole society, and even our justice system, was irredeemably racist.

For the “Justice for Trayvon” supporters, the above was all that really mattered.

That narrative ran headlong into the actual criminal justice system, which is set up to be colorblind. If you’re accused of murder, it doesn’t matter whether you’re black or white or Vietnamese or Korean or Hispanic. What matters is whether you’re guilty.

The peculiar situation we’ve had with the Zimmerman accusation and trial was the attempt to force a colorblind criminal justice system to convict Zimmerman for being white and killing a black kid, no matter what it took to accomplish that goal.

They pressured the police investigators, who finally turned the decision over to the prosecutors to escape the pressure. The prosecutors refused to prosecute the case for lack of evidence.

So the “Justice for Trayvon” side, which by now included the president and attorney general of the United States, hung on bitterly, sent government agents to rally and ramp up political pressure, and demanded the police and prosecutors be ignored, and a new prosecutor be named who would carry on with the trial.

The Republican governor of Florida caved, and appointed someone who could be counted on to prosecute the case, no matter how flawed.

And so we had Angela Corey bypassing the grand jury, because it would have ignored race and looked at the evidence, filing a false affidavit to bring it to trial, and generally manipulating the justice system to try to convict Zimmerman of murder for racism.

The Zimmerman acquittal was the triumph of our system of justice against those who want to pervert it.

There’s so much more that can be said. At every stage, there were heroes resisting the pressure to appease the mob, and villains encouraging the lynch mob. And always, everywhere, the pundits who ignore the actual facts in service of the “bigger issues.”

The lynch mob lost. And Obama is trying to recover from that by talking about race issues in general and implying that regardless of all facts, evidence, and jury verdict, Zimmerman is still guilty. Somehow.

And that’s why he talks about what the Martin family has been through. It’s just another way of saying that Zimmerman is guilty. Why, just look how much suffering he caused!

He carefully said just enough positive about the jury verdict being final to escape criticism for not respecting the jury verdict. No more.

A great speech? Sure. If you think Zimmerman was guilty.

For those of us who look at the facts and don’t have the compulsion to hail Obama’s every word or action, it’s just another attempt to project an air of moderation while vindicating the radicals.

Which is not the slightest bit unusual for this president.

There Goes the Neighborhood on July 20, 2013 at 11:54 AM

Racist-in-Chief has set race relations back 40 70-75 years. Instead of shilling for amnesty, the GOP should be using the Zimmerman case to illustrate the “War on Hispanics” by Democratics. They view everything through the prism of race.

sauldalinsky on July 20, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Rs are the stupided, always.

Yesterday obama should have talked about Detroit. The fools, on Oct. 13, 2012 said “I didn’t let Detroit go bankrupt”…a fool is always a fool.

Schadenfreude on July 20, 2013 at 11:56 AM

stupidest

Schadenfreude on July 20, 2013 at 11:56 AM

More blacks have won FL cases on SYG than whites did. You don’t read this in the news.

All the media, domestic and int’l, suffocate from what you eat. YOU and your host, go to Hades, pronto.

Schadenfreude on July 20, 2013 at 11:58 AM

What I don’t understand is that Obama is seen as the spokesman for the black race. Can anyone name one thing that he has done, ever, to specifically further the cause of black people? Poverty, unemployment and black on black crime are just as high as they have been under every other president.
Actually I know why, it’s because of the color of his skin. I asked numerous people that I worked with (who were black) what they thought of Obama. They couldn’t name his home state or even any piece of legislation that he voted on. They didn’t know anything about his political career. The only thing that they could come to a consensus on was that he is the greatest president that this country has ever had (they just didn’t know why).

bandutski on July 20, 2013 at 11:59 AM

The butthurt is real in the State Run Media(the lynch mob).

d1carter on July 20, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Cleombrotus on July 20, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Thank goodness I got one of those screen protectors…but iced tea all over the desk….

Still laughing…

Little tiny shriveled stripey stockings…

Damn good comic relief….

coldwarrior on July 20, 2013 at 12:06 PM

What president Obama is saying is that if Martin had been ‘Hispanic-white’ and Zimmerman black, everything would be just okay…

And, as far as the Left is concerned, he’s right.

DrDeano on July 20, 2013 at 11:52 AM

The President was wrong any way you cut it. If Trayvon were white he still would have been dead. Justice in this case was color blind.

gracie on July 20, 2013 at 12:12 PM

The Lynching of George Zimmerman by Bill Whittle…spot on. There is no “journalism”…

d1carter on July 20, 2013 at 11:54 AM

Excellent summary of everything wrong with the Zimmerman case.

mbs on July 20, 2013 at 12:13 PM

If my previous, far fetched idea that Zimmerman was innocent – backed up only by the flimsy excuse that a court of law found him to be so…

Point of order: The jury found Zimmerman “not guilty” of murder and manslaughter. That’s not exactly the same as “innocent”.

Socratease on July 20, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Unfortunately, the POTUS has publicly validated the “chip on the shoulder” that so many blacks in this country wear on a daily basis. When one takes the time to read his speech to the press, it is clear that he is pandering to the base of current and future Democrats. His words will remain with generations of blacks and be used as an ongoing excuse for unacceptable behavior in society.

He mentioned that racism hasn’t been eliminated, regardless of the progress in changing attitudes toward race. What he doesn’t mention is that the changing attitudes are neither positive or negative. My contention is that racism can never be eliminated because society tends to lump racism and prejudice together. In my opinion, prejudice is an emotion that can sometimes lead to racist behavior, and emotions are not controllable by any set of standards or laws. I don’t believe that racism will ever be eliminated, and that is something all people must understand and accept.

I am a racist and I believe most, if not all, people can and will display racist behaviors in their lifetimes. My late aunt used to decry my generation for listening to the “destructive and dehumanizing” music of the 60′s era. How could any decent male let their hair grow over their ears and perform in public? Although she rarely, if ever, listened to 60′s music, she very often would denounce the lyrics as “words of the devil”. She was simply displaying her prejudice, or shall I say her preference, for musicians and music of the 40′s and 50′s. At the same time, I display my preferences by not wanting to listen to hip-hop sounds and what is referred to as “rap”. I prefer to live in a neighborhood where respect is afforded to all homeowners, whether they be white, black, Hispanic, or otherwise. I will simply move when that respect declines in favor of overbearing cultural preferences. In other words, I don’t want to hear thumping car stereos at all hours of the day or night, I don’t want to see cars parked in the yards, I don’t want to see streets and lawns littered with trash. So I will embrace the “white flight” and move to a neighborhood of my preference. But I will be perceived as a racist for doing so, as are most white people. I can turn the situation around so that my logic applies to blacks, other whites, Hispanics, etc. so as to label them as racists. So racism is merely a label based on one’s behavior as a result of preferences.

The POTUS used some very divisive words in his speech and let me just highlight some of them:

“The African American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that doesn’t go away.”

“There are very few African American men in this country who haven’t had the experience of being followed when they were shopping in a department store.”

If I may Mr. POTUS, I have experienced a fair share of unpleasant and disturbing issues from some in the black community. Twice in my life, I have been jumped and beaten by black youth for no reason other than the fact that I was white and alone. Once, while I was 5 years old, I was tied to a telephone pole in an alley and beaten until I almost passed out. Another time in a public restroom at a basketball arena, while there were no other people around except for a group of blacks, I was viciously attacked while urinating. I was cold-cocked from behind, knocked to the floor, kicked in the head, ribs and mouth. They managed to chip a tooth that I have lived with for years. My sister was abducted from a shopping center by a black male hiding in the back seat of her unlocked car, taken to a remote area where she was raped while the punk held a gun in her mouth. I seriously doubt that many black youth have experienced what I have, at least not from a member of another race.

I can guarantee you, I have been followed and watched many times in a department store while shopping. And that is a direct result of both the need for stores to be vigilant for shoplifters, and also based on my appearance. I am retired and rarely shave unless I feel the need to do so. I admit to looking scruffy at times while shopping, and believe me, I am watched from the time I enter the store until the time I leave. I understand that, expect it and I get over it before I get to my car in the parking lot. If the POTUS honestly thinks that a Walmart of nothing but white shoppers aren’t watched as vigorously as black shoppers, this would be another example of why he isn’t fit to lead a diverse nation of people.

His speech is filled with so many other examples of divisive language, and I see it as nothing more than granting excuses for unacceptable behavior. As a white, I make no excuses for the deplorable behavior and attitudes of many, many white people in America. As a black, the POTUS should not make those excuses either.

In these times, when a County Circuit judge can intervene in a Detroit Bankruptcy ruling and rule against the findings of a Detroit Emergency Manager and Michigan Governor Rick Snyder as a means of honoring the POTUS, then it is certainly time for many disgruntled citizens honor the POTUS regarding his position on the Trayvon Martin trial and outcome. The POTUS declared that the jury members were properly instructed, they rendered a verdict, and that’s how the system works. He also made it clear that the judge conducted the trial in a professional manner. So, as a fellow American citizen, I say it is time to honor much of what the POTUS had to say regarding the trial and put the Trayvon Martin saga to rest. That is not to say that continuing conversations regarding race divisions in this country shouldn’t take place, now and well into the foreseeable future, but those discussions must move beyond Trayvon Martin and delve into the root causes of racism.

metroryder on July 20, 2013 at 12:32 PM

to the family of Trayvon Martin, and to remark on the incredible grace and dignity with which they’ve dealt with the entire situation.

The lying? The perjury? The race-baiting? The attempts to cash in on their son’s death by trademarking his name, and setting up a non-charitable (pay attention suckers!) foundation to collect money (which goes directly into their bank accounts) from dopes who believe their nonsense about Trayvon being some sort of modern-day civil rights hero?

Or how about how they refused to give police the password to Trayvon’s phone (so the police could not see all the incriminating photos and text messages on it), tried to prevent the defense from getting Trayvon’s school records (which documented his fighting, stealing, multiple suspensions, etc.). Or how about how they sanitized and deleted all the incriminating stuff from Trayvon’s Facebook and Twitter accounts, to try and keep conning the gullible public into believing their phony narrative about “innocent” “little” Trayvon? Or how about when they found key witness Rachel “Dee Dee/Diamond Eugene” Jeantel, and failed to notify police about her, until their corrupt, race-baiting, civil lawyer Ben Crump had time to coach her and concoct her story. Or how about when Tracy Martin initially heard the 911 tapes, and admitted that the voice screaming for help was not his son’s voice, and then got up on the stand and testified that yes, of course, it was his son’s voice, and those two police officers who witnessed him saying otherwise were both liars.

“Incredible grace and dignity”? Only in the parallel universe inhabited by liars and cons like Obama, where up is down, and evil is good.

AZCoyote on July 20, 2013 at 12:34 PM

Point of order: The jury found Zimmerman “not guilty” of murder and manslaughter. That’s not exactly the same as “innocent”.

Socratease on July 20, 2013 at 12:16 PM

There is no such verdict as ‘innocent’. ‘Guilty’ or ‘not guilty’ is all juries are allowed to find.

PersonFromPorlock on July 20, 2013 at 12:36 PM

Old and Busted School: Justice is blind.
New School Hotness: Blinded by social justice

Christien on July 20, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Point of order: The jury found Zimmerman “not guilty” of murder and manslaughter. That’s not exactly the same as “innocent”.

Socratease on July 20, 2013 at 12:16 PM

One of the stupidest comments on HA.

If you don’t believe in the best legal system in the worl, then you don’t deserve to ever live free.

Schadenfreude on July 20, 2013 at 12:49 PM

world

Schadenfreude on July 20, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Christien on July 20, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Now, apparently, blinded by the Light[giver.]

coldwarrior on July 20, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Only thing white about Obama is his dancing.
*snickers*
nonpartisan on July 20, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Reminds me of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt73TC9xRz8

Shambhala on July 20, 2013 at 12:57 PM

The poisonous punk kenyan just loves himself.

Wish he’d love himself to death.

Texyank on July 20, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Katy, it is irrelevant that your family welcomed a famous anti-Semite into your home. Stop trying to stifle people. We have a duty to speak out against anti-Semitism.

“But even an ordinary secretary or a housewife or a teenager can, within their own small ways, turn on a small light in a dark room.” – Miep Gies

tuffy on July 20, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Jazz,

I’m sure I missed it, and a link would be appreciated, but I can’t find JugEars impromptu presser (without taking questions) on the thousands of Chicago victims of black-on-black violence. It certainly should provide context.

Many thanks.

socalcon on July 20, 2013 at 1:03 PM

tuffy on July 20, 2013 at 1:01 PM

It was Henry Kissinger who famously said, “Ya, ist besser to light just vun candle than to curse in the darkness…”

coldwarrior on July 20, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Anybody heard from the Rally We Much…?

d1carter on July 20, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Mom always said that if you don’t listen to another’s point of view that it limits your ability to be a complete bitch about them.

katy the mean old lady on July 20, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Kinda mirrors my own view on prejudice: if you give everyone an equal chance, they’ll probably give you a legitimate reason to dislike them. That said, I wasn’t a big fan of Ms Thomas, but still I wish her a peaceful rest…

affenhauer on July 20, 2013 at 1:14 PM

d1carter on July 20, 2013 at 1:13 PM

Why?

Bmore on July 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Katy, it is irrelevant that your family welcomed a famous anti-Semite into your home. Stop trying to stifle people. We have a duty to speak out against anti-Semitism.

“But even an ordinary secretary or a housewife or a teenager can, within their own small ways, turn on a small light in a dark room.” – Miep Gies

tuffy on July 20, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Really? Do you know all of your friends views? I was trying to point out that almost evryone has redeeming qualities. “Stop trying to stifle people.” WTF, you just tried to do that to me.

katy the mean old lady on July 20, 2013 at 1:26 PM

OT – the Jew-hater is dead
“Helen Thomas made it possible for all of us who followed: woman pioneer journalist broke barriers died today wld have been 93 nxt month RIP,” Andrea Mitchell, the NBC News chief foreign affairs correspondent wrote.
Schadenfreude on July 20, 2013 at 11:29 AM

With the Zimmerman verdict, that makes two pieces of good news in just over a week.

Wow. She was very kind to me years ago. Actually took me to lunch and discourged the journalist career I was thinking of. Told me to be a high class hooker. I’d make more money and keep my self respect. Still laugh about that.
RIP, Helen.
katy the mean old lady on July 20, 2013 at 10:08 AM

Well, bully for you. I’ll always remember her as the shrew who told a rabbi and his son – at an Israel Appreciation Day at the White House, mind you – that Jews needed to get the hell out of Palestine and “go home” to Poland and Germany. I hope she’s rotting in hell right now. And there’s no way she’d be allowed to break bread in my home.

Maddie on July 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Maddie on July 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

See above and ask some questions about people you have had in your home. Then get back to me.

katy the mean old lady on July 20, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Point of order: The jury found Zimmerman “not guilty” of murder and manslaughter, by reason of self-defense — justifiable homicide. That’s not exactly the same as “innocent”.

Socratease on July 20, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Edited for accuracy and completeness.

Those additional words make a huge difference, to people who bother to pay attention.

farsighted on July 20, 2013 at 1:37 PM

Those additional words make a huge difference, to people who bother to pay attention.

Good point. “Justified” isn’t “innocent”, either. But I think I like it even better.

Socratease on July 20, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Maddie on July 20, 2013 at 1:29 PM

And to New York.

Lots of racists and tyrants are charming.

Schadenfreude on July 20, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Speaking of charm, see obama. The entire stupid world finds him “charming”. Never knew what they see in him.

Schadenfreude on July 20, 2013 at 1:57 PM

This guy is such a moron, even he is too black to see the evidence. And his statement that Trayvon would’ve been justified in shooting Zimmerman is so far out of line that he should be on the receiving end…

stacman on July 20, 2013 at 2:00 PM

The Lynching of George Zimmerman by Bill Whittle…spot on. There is no “journalism”…

d1carter on July 20, 2013 at 11:54 AM

Pass this one around folks…

Seven Percent Solution on July 20, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Why?

Bmore on July 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

I thought Dear Leader might have attended one…instead of playing golf today.

d1carter on July 20, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Well done Obowma and the Media…

Iran’s Mullahs Demand Justice for Trayvon

… Well done!

Seven Percent Solution on July 20, 2013 at 2:10 PM

katy the mean old lady on July 20, 2013 at 1:36 PM

Yeah, my dad sometimes made Archie Bunker look like a piker but he has a lot redeeming qualities and was smart enough to show me which were worth emulating.

Cindy Munford on July 20, 2013 at 2:24 PM

The 17 min. speech coverd up this under the radar travesty…released yesterday afternoon…when no one noticed.

Schadenfreude on July 20, 2013 at 2:31 PM

First of all, I want to make sure that, once again, I send my thoughts and prayers, as well as Michelle’s, to the family of Trayvon Martin, and to remark on the incredible grace and dignity with which they’ve dealt with the entire situation. I can only imagine what they’re going through, and it’s remarkable how they’ve handled it.

Yeah, me too. Remarkable how they’ve handled it just remarkable. Incredibly graceful and dignified.

Oldnuke on July 20, 2013 at 2:41 PM

“The President’s remarks on Friday are going to be read by future generations. They’re beautiful, they’re eloquent”

Democrat Kneepad Eleanor Rodham Clift.

Del Dolemonte on July 20, 2013 at 2:52 PM

I’m sure this has already been said by many others, but if at some point some lunatic decides to go ahead and kill George Zimmerman or a member of his family in the street, or in their home, or in their nuclear fallout shelter two miles underground where they’re basically going to have to spend the rest of their lives…it’s going to be squarely on Obama, and Holder, and Sharpton, and all the rest of these pathetic malcontents.

Cylor on July 20, 2013 at 2:57 PM

By his statement I can only assume that he wants to ferment violence and unrest.

So when that doesn’t materialize are you going to apologize for assuming black people are wild animals unable to control our emotions?

libfreeordie on July 20, 2013 at 3:08 PM

I wonder what Obama would say if someone said “Of course, O.J. Simpson was guilty.”

Cindy Munford on July 20, 2013 at 3:10 PM

Slavery of the soul is the most horrid of curses. When it is done voluntarily then it becomes real self-destruction.

Adam blamed God (for making that women)
Eve blamed God (for making that serpent)
How long will the white man (who died by the hundreds of thousands to free, and keep free, the black man) be blamed for the racism fanned by race pimps , politicians and asocial failures, who use and abuse pigmentation for personal gain?

How long must the blame horse be ridden before it collapses of its own weight?

Don L on July 20, 2013 at 3:11 PM

libfreeordie on July 20, 2013 at 3:08 PM

Did he or didn’t he go on TV to encourage people people to be peaceful in their dissent?

Cindy Munford on July 20, 2013 at 3:13 PM

The bitter pill Obama and his ilk refuse to swallow:

Justice for Trayvon=Not guilty verdict for George

Of course, they were never interested in the truth, in the first place.

Christien on July 20, 2013 at 3:14 PM

Reminds me of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt73TC9xRz8

Shambhala on July 20, 2013 at 12:57 PM

I thought that would be a video of Carlton Banks.
I guess Don Simmons at least looks like Carlton Banks.

22044 on July 20, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Hoo boy. Libby and his strawmen are here.

22044 on July 20, 2013 at 3:16 PM

So when that doesn’t materialize are you going to apologize for assuming black people are wild animals unable to control our emotions?

Your words. I haven’t seen that said here. You are entitled to your own opinions and may emote away. Neither you nor the President get to make up your own facts with impunity. Once you reckon with the facts of the case, you get to go home and think about the damage you’ve done.

gracie on July 20, 2013 at 3:22 PM

katy, I’ve read that Hitler was a charming and erudite dinner guest as well. Your point is?

Count Mahdrof on July 20, 2013 at 3:28 PM

if at some point some lunatic decides to go ahead and kill George Zimmerman or a member of his family in the street…it’s going to be squarely on Obama, and Holder, and Sharpton, and all the rest of these pathetic malcontents.

Cylor on July 20, 2013 at 2:57 PM

You say that like you think one of them might give a crap.

If they did they could say something to wind down Zimmerman Hate Machine they have helped build and fuel.

I don’t think any of them give a sh!t if they can’t be held liable in a court of law. And they can’t be. They have clean hands legally.

And in the court of public opinion? None of them are up for election or reelection. Take note how few non-black elected officials have anything to say about this.

If Zimmerman or one of his family are killed most likely they will cynically use the event to push for more gun control. While blaming a “broken system” that enabled Zimmerman to “get away with it” and “walk away Scott-free”. “While this should not have happened, Trayvon should not have died either. And black rage over injustice is understandable, almost justified. At some point it becomes intolerable for some people and they snap and lash out” … blah, blah, blah…

And then there is the scenario where Zimmerman must once again use deadly force to defend himself from someone likely to kill him.

farsighted on July 20, 2013 at 3:31 PM

So when that doesn’t materialize are you going to apologize for assuming black people are wild animals unable to control our emotions?
 
libfreeordie on July 20, 2013 at 3:08 PM

 
Right after the president, maybe.
 

“I know this case has elicited strong passions. And in the wake of the verdict, I know those passions may be running even higher. But we are a nation of laws, and a jury has spoken. I now ask every American to respect the call for calm reflection from two parents who lost their young son.”
 
- President Barack H. Obama, first post-not-guilty statement

 
Calm reflection, yo.

rogerb on July 20, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Count Mahdrof on July 20, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Comparing Helen Thomas to Hitler is stupid and suggesting that people who don’t think like you do are evil instead of wrong is a very liberal trait.

Cindy Munford on July 20, 2013 at 3:34 PM

See above and ask some questions about people you have had in your home. Then get back to me.
katy the mean old lady on July 20, 2013 at 1:36 PM

I’m getting back to you. I have three Conservative and two Libertarian friends. The rest, including my family and in-laws, are bleeding heart Northeast liberals. They are also pro-Israel, with the exception of a handful of my relatives, who have never been to our home. The crucifix from my mother’s wake hangs above our front door along with my husband’s grandmother’s Star of David.

Helen Thomas was a vicious anti-Semite, who may or may not have had some good qualities. I understand Hitler loved dogs. What’s your point?

Maddie on July 20, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Obama: Of course Zimmerman was guilty, but…five creepy-ass cracka chicks and one light brown clown senora laid on a hard to undo screw.

MaiDee on July 20, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Maddie on July 20, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Again, comparing Thomas to Hitler is ridiculous.

Cindy Munford on July 20, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Is his white half dead?

Schadenfreude on July 20, 2013 at 11:38 AM

Nah!

It’s alive and guilt-ridden.

Shy Guy on July 20, 2013 at 3:45 PM

libfreeordie on July 20, 2013 at 3:08 PM

Obvious race baiting bigoted troll engaging in obvious race baiting.

farsighted on July 20, 2013 at 3:47 PM

That said, I wasn’t a big fan of Ms Thomas, but still I wish her a peaceful rest…

affenhauer on July 20, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Same here. (Actually, I wasn’t a fan at all, especially in her later years as it looked as though her mind were becoming unhinged, but may she rest in peace.)

Kevin K. on July 20, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Comparing Helen Thomas to Hitler is stupid and suggesting that people who don’t think like you do are evil instead of wrong is a very liberal trait.
Cindy Munford on July 20, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Well then, what better way to honor the uber-liberal Helen Thomas?

To answer your question, I don’t think people who disagree with me are evil. I think Helen Thomas is evil. To use her position of trust as a journalist to further her own agenda is despicable. To insult Jews and Israel at an event specifically honoring Israel in front of a Rabbi and his young son, telling them to go back to the places where they were exterminated, puts her squarely in Hitler’s Social Circle of Evil.

Maddie on July 20, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Back on the non-questioning presser: I’m glad that I wasn’t the only one one picked up on the undertones that Zimmerman was still in the wrong and somehow evil and deserves whatever the mob (and I don’t mean organized crime) does to him.

I intend to avoid any areas where pro-Trayvon rallies, etc. are going to be held this evening. Too many people basing their actions on emotion rather than logic and facts.

Kevin K. on July 20, 2013 at 3:53 PM

This is a divisive president. As a community organizer, that what he did. It’s all he knows how to do. That’s why nothing is his fault. He reminds me of Jim Jones.

sadatoni on July 20, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Maddie on July 20, 2013 at 3:51 PM

I’ve never understood the dislike of Jewish people myself but it seems to be widespread. Personally I think it is their talent of making something out of almost nothing every chance they get. I think it is envy that makes them targets. I also think that a significant majority of the media and the entertainment world (including Jews) seem to feel that way, they are just less “honest” than Ms. Thomas. It probably didn’t help that she was the daughter of immigrant parents from Lebanon. Regardless, she did not round people up and put them to death so while I agree with you that she was a bigoted b!tch, she is not comparable to Hitler. And as I said earlier, my father seem to have a lot of prejudices and I think a lot of that was the era they were raised in.

Cindy Munford on July 20, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Helen Thomas was not Hitler.

Helen Thomas was herself, a bigot, ugly, ugly, ugly, especially from the inside.

Schadenfreude on July 20, 2013 at 4:15 PM

The USSA
Today

Schadenfreude on July 20, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Harmless, since all is so relative.

Schadenfreude on July 20, 2013 at 4:19 PM

You must admit, Barry owes Trayvon this much. If it hadn’t been for the little wannabe gangbanger deciding to beat up the pudgy creepy-ass cracker, we’d still be talking about the Benghazi cover up. Regular Right Guy

Mornin Mojo on July 20, 2013 at 4:32 PM

For the trolls of HA.

Schadenfreude on July 20, 2013 at 4:33 PM

The points that Obama missed: Not only is black on black crime in high the nineties percentile but the percent on interracial black on white (vs. white on black) crime is also in the high nineties. It is not bias or prejudice to fear a group (particularly black young men) who are much much much more liable to attack you than the other way around.) This is another way of saying that whites fear blacks for a GOOD REASON and until 12% of the nation stops committing 60% (or thereabouts) of all violent crimes, anyone who is too trusting is a TOTAL IDIOT.

Also, in today’s PC atmosphere, the worst scenario is always a white killing a black for any reason. If anybody tries breaking into my house, I pray the burglar is white because I can shoot him without repercussions. If the burglar is black, maybe I can hand him the valuables through the window to avoid a murder rap.

Obama also missed the point that Zimmerman was found NOT GUILTY-by inference this would imply that “innocent child” Trayvon Martin must have done SOMETHING WRONG-( “acted stupidly” in Obama parlance) either judgmentally or criminally. Not a single word of condolence for the acquitted Zimmerman or his family.

In fact it was Obama, early on, injecting race into a case, where none existed, that snowballed a rather routine probable mugging into an international “hate crime” spectacular which spawned national riots and now he has poured more salt into the wounds.

MaiDee on July 20, 2013 at 4:39 PM

Hitler loved dogs.

Maddie on July 20, 2013 at 3:38 PM

He loved Blondi so much that he had his cyanide capsules tested on her to insure they were potent enough.

Oldnuke on July 20, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Mornin Mojo on July 20, 2013 at 4:32 PM

As much as I hate to say it, I think he used that kid for the get out the vote also.

Cindy Munford on July 20, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Being a white African-American, the half cracka Obama should know better than to stoke the racial fires in this country.

metroryder on July 20, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Message to self – Preview is my friend.

(Click on the blue text for the link to the Whittle Afterburner video.)

Athos on July 20, 2013 at 5:22 PM

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