Obama: Of course Zimmerman was guilty, but…

posted at 8:31 am on July 20, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

As you may have already heard, the President showed up in the White House briefing room on Friday to give an impromptu address to the press corps on the current state of race relations in America and how the outcome of the George Zimmerman trial is affecting same. While supporters billed the appearance as a more generic, “healing” address in troubled times, it opened and closed with comments regarding the court case in question. We can leave for another day the issue of whether the Comforter in Chief should be diving into the results of one specific trial in Florida, but there was plenty of fodder for pundits included.

To begin with, not everything the President said was out of bounds or off the mark. There are still issues of racial tension in this nation (though the inaccurate perception that it’s vastly swinging in one direction need to be addressed) and it’s a subject which merits some work. But it’s difficult to see how this particular speech was helpful in terms of easing racial tensions given one of the glaring talking points – along with an equally glaring omission – which led off the event. (The full text of remarks can be found here.)

First of all, I want to make sure that, once again, I send my thoughts and prayers, as well as Michelle’s, to the family of Trayvon Martin, and to remark on the incredible grace and dignity with which they’ve dealt with the entire situation. I can only imagine what they’re going through, and it’s remarkable how they’ve handled it.

The second thing I want to say is to reiterate what I said on Sunday, which is there’s going to be a lot of arguments about the legal issues in the case — I’ll let all the legal analysts and talking heads address those issues. The judge conducted the trial in a professional manner. The prosecution and the defense made their arguments. The juries were properly instructed that in a case such as this reasonable doubt was relevant, and they rendered a verdict. And once the jury has spoken, that’s how our system works.

The second part of the quoted text is also worthy of note, and it’s to the President’s credit. Too many people analyzing this case completely skip over the fact that there was, in fact, a trial, and that it produced a result in accordance with the law. But to backtrack just a bit, Barack Obama’s opening paragraph still essentially shoots holes in the message.

The President isn’t just talking about a family losing a son, but with “the entire situation.” The rest of the speech goes back to the well again and again, talking about gun laws and self defense and, “what would have happened if” Trayvon Martin were white. This was about the trial, and the underlying message was simple: The Martin family was ripped off by the justice system because the system is biased and a guilty man was allowed to kill their son.

How does President Obama square that with the second paragraph of his speech? There is not one ounce of recognition of the possibility that the jury arrived at the correct verdict, that Martin was the aggressor and that Zimmerman was put in a position of feeling that he had to defend his life?

This leads us to the other glaring omission. You’ll note that in the initial expressions of sympathy and understanding, George Zimmerman’s name was not mentioned once. If my previous, far fetched idea that Zimmerman was innocent – backed up only by the flimsy excuse that a court of law found him to be so – were even possibly true, was the Zimmerman family also not feeling the sting of the long, drawn out proceedings which followed and the social stigma which will be trailing George Zimmerman for the rest of his life? Was there not a moment to spare in this “historic speech” (as Wolf Blitzer later termed it) for a few thoughts for the family of the man who was found innocent?

No, there was not. And with that in mind, what was portrayed as an important address to heal the racial divide in America could, in some part, wind up being even more divisive. Perhaps there are times when it’s best for the leader of the Federal Government to stay on the sidelines in states’ issues, including high profile trials.


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Obama: Of course Zimmerman was guilty, but…

…let’s talk about me.

Pablo on July 20, 2013 at 8:35 AM

He meant it to be divisive, under the cover of being “healing”, of course. But “healing” only to one side.

IrishEyes on July 20, 2013 at 8:37 AM

Oh, that speech makes divisions worse, all right. Just like his presidency as a whole.

It’s a shame really. His election showed racial divisions had greatly diminished, and he started with so much good will…. And he pissed it all away.

WannabeAnglican on July 20, 2013 at 8:40 AM

You could have been Trayvon Martin, Mr. President? Really? Did they find burglary tools in your locker at school? Were you suspended for starting fights? Did you look for trouble with a possible gay stalker late at night and throw the first punch? That was you?

Again, this has gone completely away from content of character and now firmly resides in color of skin.

John the Libertarian on July 20, 2013 at 8:41 AM

Ahhh yes, remember when he campaigned he would be the great uniter—good times, good times.

hillsoftx on July 20, 2013 at 8:42 AM

really? The judge was a pro? I guess on Earth2 where the United States rebelled against France and we somehow have the Napoleonic Code theory of Jurisprudence where the Judge is an active partisan perhaps.

Did Prezzy Obambi make big doody in the Toily bowl?

Shaw do you ever notice you feel the need to exert gymnastics to try desperately to pretend this narcissistic a hole is in any way a decent man?

The President of the United States is using the office to interfere in an exonerated man’s life…I could not personally care less about his feeble justifications for doing so.

harlekwin15 on July 20, 2013 at 8:43 AM

He and his advisers cannot be that ignorant nor stupid.

This is just another deliberate attempt to destroy this nation through racial discord and mistrust.

FOWG1 on July 20, 2013 at 8:43 AM

How was this speech anything other than divisive?

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on July 20, 2013 at 8:43 AM

“The judicial system acted stupidly.”

BigAlSouth on July 20, 2013 at 8:44 AM

His comments sure took the spotlight off Detroit, didn’t they? And no one noticed that he nominated an advocate of racial profiling to head Big Sister yesterday.

Mission accomplished. Squirrel deployed.

myiq2xu on July 20, 2013 at 8:45 AM

Trayvon Martin knew his dad, was an athlete, had physical courage, and so far as is known has no toxological or history self-written of cocaine abuseso no Bambi you could not have been Mr. Martin.

harlekwin15 on July 20, 2013 at 8:45 AM

Far as I’m concerned, the only opinion that counts is when a state’s governor gives final authorization or a stay of sentence for an execution.

All others can go kiss fluffy ducks.

Liam on July 20, 2013 at 8:46 AM

Political opinions, that is.

I need more coffee, it seems.

Liam on July 20, 2013 at 8:47 AM

How was this speech anything other than divisive?

Throat Wobbler Mangrove on July 20, 2013 at 8:43 AM

Post Racial President…Remember?

*blech*

workingclass artist on July 20, 2013 at 8:48 AM

what was portrayed as an important address to heal the racial divide in America could, in some part, wind up being even more divisive. Perhaps there are times when it’s best for the leader of the Federal Government to stay on the sidelines in states’ issues, including high profile trials.

The last thing Obama needs is a healing. He needs the diversion. Bad. You see the outcome of these hearings, if you don’t feed the short attention span masses with some good WWE even they are gonna start noticing, maybe even google “tyranny”.
No he needs this and bad. Hell he created it. Zimmerman’s as black as him, this was never newsworthy, much less indictable. It’s his m.o., he couldn’t do anything else, he loves this, and yes it will be bad-so much the better when he again steps forward to “calm” everyone. This is frightening.
Story after story critiquing this sociopath in chief’s lies. Ted Bundy viewed, at worst, as a well meaning Al Bundy. Watch Sharpton work this for a few days with his new federally sanctioned, unindictably martyred Tawana Brawley. You should be afraid as well.

onomo on July 20, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Racial division is a winning and potent cocktail for him.
It is just what he does.

ORconservative on July 20, 2013 at 8:50 AM

democrats don’t want to deal with the truth…they own the problem…..they are at fault for this sin against a block of people that use continually to gain power….

crosshugger on July 20, 2013 at 8:50 AM

Obama lived the life of Middle Class Liberal Privilege…largely paid for by patronage and later by tax payers.

How does that square with I am Trayvon?

It doesn’t.

Maybe he was speakin about his choomin and experimental days.

workingclass artist on July 20, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Obama: Of course Zimmerman was guilty, but…

Nail, meet head.

“…But blacks are used to getting unfair treatment from the crackas’ justice system. Zimmerman should be in jail and Brother Eric is trying to conduct a federal Inquisition. He is looking into what happened “down there”. But don’t expect too much to come from that, either. We haven’t been able to completely destroy “State’s Rights” (wink-wink) yet. My hands may be tied in this one, but things are getting better.”

farsighted on July 20, 2013 at 8:51 AM

If the Man would keep his opinions to himself, instead of keeping the flames of hate raging ( like Jackson, Sharpton et al), he might be called some what of a good POTUS. But the former Community Organizer can not do even that. Benghazi, the IRS, NSA, Snowden, his entire International policies, still deep unemployment, professed a decrease in the amount of illegal immigration, and he has to bring up George Zimmerman’s trial. What a Democrat tool.

Sabercat2 on July 20, 2013 at 8:51 AM

The Passive Aggressive POTUS

conservative pilgrim on July 20, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Exactly who here is surprised that Obama has shown that his first priority is his race, that he views almost everything thru the victimhood prism?

He and his “bros” have destroyed much of the good will shown by the election of a minority. People are understanding that it isn’t enough for many in the black community to have people elected – they want black politicians to push the black agenda, to be point guy/gal for black issues. If black politicians only care about black issues it is hard to understand why they expect white people to vote for them.

The only valid point he made is that each generation loses that identification of otherness.

katiejane on July 20, 2013 at 8:52 AM

Walking while white…

Like a complete unknown: Bob Dylan frogmarched to collect ID after rookie policewoman fails to recognise scruffy music legend

Akzed on July 20, 2013 at 8:52 AM

Post Racial President…Remember?

*blech*

workingclass artist on July 20, 2013 at 8:48 AM

~passes you one of my spare barf bags~

Liam on July 20, 2013 at 8:52 AM

AFTERBURNER w/ BILL WHITTLE: The Lynching

BallisticBob on July 20, 2013 at 8:40 AM

Excellent, as always.

John the Libertarian on July 20, 2013 at 8:53 AM

He did nothing to bring resolution. He is a Community Organizer at heart, and the intent was to divide and agitate. He’s absolutely pathetic.

conservative pilgrim on July 20, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Racial division is a winning and potent cocktail for him.
It is just what he does.

ORconservative on July 20, 2013 at 8:50 AM

The last defense of the mediocre with no policy or the stature of actual accomplishment.

workingclass artist on July 20, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Obama: Of course Zimmerman was guilty, but…

If this is indeed Obama’s message, then he’s putting his eggs into the “we’re a nation of men and sentiments, and not a nation of laws”, even though he gives lip service to the latter.

Does he see that this diminishes him and his office? Because he’s the chief law enforcement officer, he swore to uphold the Constitution. And now he’s pushing the idea that’s what’s more important is the color of someone’s skin, because that’s where his sentiment is. He’s working against the law and the power of his office.

This can’t create something good. This can’t end well. Does he really think his feelings, and the power of his personality, will somehow prevail over the powers given to his office, to his Presidency? He’s fighting the law he swore to uphold, with him in charge of upholding that law … doesn’t he see the disconnect there? This country begins and end with the Constitution, and the law. It can’t be any other way.

Paul-Cincy on July 20, 2013 at 8:54 AM

“President Obama expanded on the acquittal of George Zimmerman at a surprise appearance in the White House briefing room today, noting that he once said he could have had a son like Trayvon Martin but now revising that to “Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago.”

Obama has a pathology of doing this – putting himself at the center of things that had nothing whatsoever to do with him. To him, everything is about him – everything centers on him. And in this case, that’s on top of leaving out any “inconvenient” facts (Like his “son” or now “himself” being on top of Zimmerman basically trying to brash his brains out, and that is per the prosecution’s own witness for God’s sake) that don’t suit his false narrative.

Obama said, “Trayvon Martin could have been me” – spoken like a full blown narcissist. A normal person or even a borderline narcissist would have said “I could have been Trayvon Martin”. This is one sick bugger.

I think to pick up on Obama’s son imagining, I will say – If I had a son who was a psychiatrist and he had Obama for a patient, he would be his by far most mentally ill patient.

**************

Obama’s Obamacentric belief system:
1) All events start with Obama.
2) All events end with Obama.
3) The Sun revolves around Obama.
4) The Moon revolves around Obama.
5) The Stars revolve around Obama.
6) Nothing of any importance existed before Obama.
7) Nothing of any importance will exist after Obama.

Obama is mentally ill.

VorDaj on July 20, 2013 at 8:55 AM

obozo is a racist and those that support him are racists. Obozo has give the official ok to be racist in America. obozo and his people have ruined America and should be treated as less than second class citizens.

Flange on July 20, 2013 at 8:57 AM

Many other good comments here I won’t repeat, so I’ll focus on a specific slip up:

The juries were properly instructed

The juries? Is this an accurate transcription? It would be jurors – members of the jury – but there was a singular jury here. The smartest president evah! is not going to mix up juries with jurors. But a semi-literate community agitator who’s been given a pass his whole life would. Even though he’s been talking to friends and advisers for a whole week and has this speech planned out.

rbj on July 20, 2013 at 8:57 AM

St. Louis Man Beaten Bloody at Bus Stop Is Latest ‘Knock Out’ Game Victim

St. Louis County Police describe the suspect as an African American man in his 20s or 30s, six foot three inches tall, weighing 280 pounds and has a scruffy beard.

Akzed on July 20, 2013 at 8:58 AM

The second part of the quoted text is also worthy of note, and it’s to the President’s credit.

You’d be wrong. He said:

The judge conducted the trial in a professional manner.

The judge acted terribly and her rulings against the defense were more than questionable.

Blake on July 20, 2013 at 8:58 AM

The only valid point he made is that each generation loses that identification of otherness.

katiejane on July 20, 2013 at 8:52 AM

It’s not really valid, because Obama and other 21st Century American blacks are more into being ‘others’ than the hoped-for inclusiveness of my generation (I’m pushing 55). Worse are the rich white liberals like Piers Morgan (who is a Brit that Brits don’t want back) and Chris Matthews.

Just this week, one liberal talking head said there needs to be a new group of ‘others’.

That is the Left these days.

So, Obama lied (and so has no validity on the matter) when he said what you mentioned.

NO president I know of has ever been more into being an ‘other’ or making his political enemies into ‘others’. No other president has ever been this divisive.

Liam on July 20, 2013 at 8:59 AM

Obama is mentally ill. VorDaj on July 20, 2013 at 8:55 AM

Well, if you agree with the therapeutic model that all human problems should be treated like illnesses.

This however removes his personal culpability for the evil he is responsible for.

Akzed on July 20, 2013 at 9:00 AM

Thomas Jefferson, a slave-holder, was less divisive than is Obama.

Liam on July 20, 2013 at 9:02 AM

I’ve enjoyed the programs Hannity has done on his TV and radio shows on this topic.

He’s invited commentary from both sides of the issue and there have been lively debates…Often with Black Conservatives from all over the country smackin’ down the grievance hustlers.

I don’t always agree with Hannity’s (Senor Rubio is an epic fail) opinions or his political stances…But on this he’s created a great forum for discussion. He’s been outstanding promoting Black conservatives…imho

Obama…our President of the Entire Nation…just a mediocre self promoting divider…

workingclass artist on July 20, 2013 at 9:02 AM

Trayvon Martin’s death was a tragedy. This didn’t have to happen. Cooler heads need to prevail in situations like this. It was unnecessarily escalated by both parties who should’ve walked away and didn’t. Someone instigated a fight, and it was most likely Trayvon Martin, who obviously lost.

There are other tragedies where people are beaten, injured, shot, wounded, and killed that happen every day. The truth is that there is evil in this world and one man tries to exert his will over another–many times by force. There are consequences to that, and GZ’s injuries and TM’s death are those consequences. What more needs to be said?

ted c on July 20, 2013 at 9:03 AM

I’m looking forward to future presidential press conferences for every teenager who gets killed.

Dongemaharu on July 20, 2013 at 9:03 AM

Obama – America’s Hitler – just with blacks hating whites instead of Aryans hating Jews.

VorDaj on July 20, 2013 at 9:03 AM

Anything in that ‘historic speech’ about standing down and going home instead of rioting, burning businesses and shop lifting? That was what he should have said.

Kissmygrits on July 20, 2013 at 9:03 AM

can’t let a crisis go to wast.

phatfawzi on July 20, 2013 at 9:04 AM

waste.

phatfawzi on July 20, 2013 at 9:04 AM

St. Louis Man Beaten Bloody at Bus Stop Is Latest ‘Knock Out’ Game Victim

St. Louis County Police describe the suspect as an African American man in his 20s or 30s, six foot three inches tall, weighing 280 pounds and has a scruffy beard.

Akzed on July 20, 2013 at 8:58 AM

I don’t know when any white person in Cincinnati kills or even assaults a black person. It goes the other way around quite frequently. In 2001 a white cop killed a black kid in a dark alley at night, causing the 2001 Cincinnati riots. But I haven’t heard of it happening since then.

Paul-Cincy on July 20, 2013 at 9:04 AM

Obama – America’s Hitler – just with his wanting blacks to hate whites instead of wanting Aryans to hate Jews. Same show just under a different tent.

VorDaj on July 20, 2013 at 9:05 AM

Too many people analyzing this case completely skip over the fact that there was, in fact, a trial, and that it produced a result in accordance with the law.

While overlooking that…

- there never should have been a trial,
- that the trial was driven by politics,
- that the prosecution tried to hide exculpatory evidence,
- that the prosecution dragged its feet in discovery preventing the defense from authenticating exculpatory evidence,
- that the prosecution will probably be sued for a malicious prosecution,
- that the quaint old notion it is the responsibility of the prosecution to actually have a case and a theory of the crime it must try to prove beyond reasonable was stood on its head, with the judge complicit in that,
- and that the defense was placed in the position of essentially having to prove the accused innocent.

Not to mention that the jury and their families, Zimmerman, his wife, his parents, and his brother are all in hiding and living in fear for their safety,

But other than all of that, yeah “there was, in fact, a trial, and … it produced a result”.

And other than that, it was a pretty good play, wasn’t it Mrs Lincoln?

farsighted on July 20, 2013 at 9:05 AM

obozo is pure evil. Those that support him are evil. Everyone that voted for him should be stripped of their citizenrship and shipped to Africa. Or at least half way. If they all died in the ocean, that would be even better. He is NOT my President and if you support him, you are not an American. Let the C!v!l War start already.

Flange on July 20, 2013 at 9:05 AM

Anything in that ‘historic speech’ about standing down and going home instead of rioting, burning businesses and shop lifting? That was what he should have said.

Kissmygrits on July 20, 2013 at 9:03 AM

Exactly.

+1000

Liam on July 20, 2013 at 9:05 AM

Blake on July 20, 2013 at 8:58 AM

Actually, having sat through most of the entire debacle, I thought that aspect of it was one of the more glaring points in support of the eventual verdict. I too felt that the judge pretty much swung full force in favor of the prosecution on each and every contended point on evidence, allowable testimony, etc. And yet they still couldn’t make the case. If anything, the rather ham handed approach of the judge should serve as reinforcement of how nonexistent the DA’s case was to begin with.

Jazz Shaw on July 20, 2013 at 9:07 AM

This is just another case of another liberal politician requiring a dead body to stand upon to make a case. They stand upon mountains of dead babies and say “For the mother….”. They stand upon mountains of dead children from Sandy Hook and say “For the children”….and now he stands upon Trayvon Martin and says “For the young black men” in order to make his case. What would a liberal politician do if he didn’t have several American citizen deaths to exploit????

ted c on July 20, 2013 at 9:08 AM

Liam on July 20, 2013 at 8:59 AM

Yeah.

Chris Matthews apologizing on behalf of White America was laughable.

On behalf of White America…I’d like to take this opportunity to denounce the moonbat Chris Matthews as an embarrassment to the human race…

He’s just a sputtering fool in the longest lasting early stages of public dementia witnessed in human history after King George.

*snicker*

workingclass artist on July 20, 2013 at 9:09 AM

Jazz, you aren’t black. You wouldn’t understand where the President was coming from.

nonpartisan on July 20, 2013 at 9:10 AM

Obama – liar, thief, murderer, President.

VorDaj on July 20, 2013 at 9:10 AM

Jazz, you aren’t black. You wouldn’t understand where the President was coming from.

nonpartisan on July 20, 2013 at 9:10 AM

We all know where we wished he would go though.

VorDaj on July 20, 2013 at 9:11 AM

Actually, having sat through most of the entire debacle, I thought that aspect of it was one of the more glaring points in support of the eventual verdict. I too felt that the judge pretty much swung full force in favor of the prosecution on each and every contended point on evidence, allowable testimony, etc. And yet they still couldn’t make the case. If anything, the rather ham handed approach of the judge should serve as reinforcement of how nonexistent the DA’s case was to begin with.

Jazz Shaw on July 20, 2013 at 9:07 AM

We saw that, too, Jazz.

I think Francis Gary Powers got a more fair trial from the Soviets than Zimmerman enjoyed.

Liam on July 20, 2013 at 9:11 AM

You’ll note that in the initial expressions of sympathy and understanding, George Zimmerman’s name was not mentioned once.

Of course not.

Grand Inquisitor Holder had declared him an Enemy of the State. He is the new Emmanuel Goldstein. Keep those anonymous tips about Zimmerman’s past evil deeds and words coming in, folks. We may still be able to nail the racist child killer with something.

farsighted on July 20, 2013 at 9:11 AM

Hey! This is the 44th anniversary of the the landing on the moon by Eagle/Apollo 11.

Go, USA!

Liam on July 20, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Liam,

That was my point as well. This was a legit sow trial. I’m not in the mood too hear King Putt functionally bewail that we’re still a nation of laws.

harlekwin15 on July 20, 2013 at 9:14 AM

Yeah.

Chris Matthews apologizing on behalf of White America was laughable.

On behalf of White America…I’d like to take this opportunity to denounce the moonbat Chris Matthews as an embarrassment to the human race…

He’s just a sputtering fool in the longest lasting early stages of public dementia witnessed in human history after King George.

*snicker*

workingclass artist on July 20, 2013 at 9:09 AM

Laughable?

I find that so disgusting I might need to take back that barf bag I offered you.

Liam on July 20, 2013 at 9:16 AM

You’ll note that in the initial expressions of sympathy and understanding, George Zimmerman’s name was not mentioned once.

Of course not.

Grand Inquisitor Holder had declared him an Enemy of the State. He is the new Emmanuel Goldstein. Keep those anonymous tips about Zimmerman’s past evil deeds and words coming in, folks. We may still be able to nail the racist child killer with something.

farsighted on July 20, 2013 at 9:11 AM

J’accuse!

And where is the Zola of our age…condemning the President for what now appears to be the Persecution of Zimmerman?

workingclass artist on July 20, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Jazz, you aren’t black. You wouldn’t understand where the President was coming from.

nonpartisan on July 20, 2013 at 9:10 AM

First, Obama is a white black. Second, Obama’s experiences … growing up in foreign countries, raised Muslim and raised by white grandparents really have nothing to do with black inner city experiences. In other words he’s just trying to claim some cred with blacks and blow hot air up their asses.

darwin on July 20, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Starlnk,

G Zimmerman is 1/2 as black as he needs to be to have a get out of jail free card like Obama evidently….

Zimmerman is/was a liberal democrat.

harlekwin15 on July 20, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Barack Hussein Sharpton

davidk on July 20, 2013 at 9:18 AM

I too felt that the judge pretty much swung full force in favor of the prosecution on each and every contended point on evidence, allowable testimony, etc. And yet they still couldn’t make the case. If anything, the rather ham handed approach of the judge should serve as reinforcement of how nonexistent the DA’s case was to begin with.

Jazz Shaw on July 20, 2013 at 9:07 AM

By the last few days of the trial, when the defense was presenting its case, I began to get the impression the judge knew the verdict would be not guilty and that she would not have to deal with the embarrassment of being smacked hard by an appellate court, with the verdict reversed.

So she felt free to overdo her deference to the prosecution, and avoid having blame heaped on her for a not guilty verdict.

farsighted on July 20, 2013 at 9:19 AM

If I had a son he would act like Barack Obama. – Satan

VorDaj on July 20, 2013 at 9:20 AM

Laughable?

I find that so disgusting I might need to take back that barf bag I offered you.

Liam on July 20, 2013 at 9:16 AM

It was laughable because it was Matthews.

At this point his lunacy is so obvious that it can;t be taken seriously by any rational citizen.

so yeah…to me it was laughable…just as his deciding to cancel his sunday show for family reasons was laughable.

besides…although I appreciate your kind offer of a disposable barf bag…I have a bucket.

I’m green that way…

: )

workingclass artist on July 20, 2013 at 9:21 AM

Jazz, you aren’t black. You wouldn’t understand where the President was coming from.

nonpartisan on July 20, 2013 at 9:10 AM

Screw you and that whole ‘black experience’ thing.

Are you black?

How about this: You aren’t Conservative, yet you rag here on a Conservative comment site. You have NO idea what it means to be Conservative, because you aren’t and have never been one.

Many of us conservatives, on the other hand, used to be liberal like you are now.

It’s after 9:00. Starbucks is open, so why don’t you go spew your blather in a coffee shop with others of your kind. Surely they’ll love you; you’ll fit right in.

We don’t need you.

Liam on July 20, 2013 at 9:21 AM

so if no one white can ever understand someone black how is it that certain black people have opted to spend their lives pontificating about what white people think- specifically -about black people? how could they possibly know? they’re not white.

how is it the likes of al shapton is such an expert on jews and “white” folks?

where’s the apology for orchestrating a lynch mob against an latino man who contended and a jury concurred was defending his life because a violent young man jumped him and was slamming his head into the pavement?

where’s the soul searching about the fact that most black males are killed by other black males? where is the justice for those families? sorry- your son’s killer wasn’t white so it does not concern us.

social justice. it’s all about social justice. zimmerman was not not white enough to get him some social justice. i am curious as to the proportion of non “white” blood necessary to qualify for justice.

what republicants voted to confirm eric holder? they’re guilty of treason.

mittens on July 20, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Walking while white…

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/07/now-that-barack-obama-talked-about-trayvon-martin-will-he-talk-about-marley-lion/

But I guess these cases are okay.

UnderstandingisPower on July 20, 2013 at 9:23 AM

workingclass artist on July 20, 2013 at 9:21 AM

If Matthews was any more white, he’d be transparent. I’m surprised he doesn’t get sunburn from fluorescent lights.

Liam on July 20, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Jazz, you aren’t black. You wouldn’t understand where the President was coming from.

nonpartisan on July 20, 2013 at 9:10 AM

Oreobama’s only half-black, so he only understands half of where blacks are coming from, and that’s being generous.

fortcoins on July 20, 2013 at 9:24 AM

If I had a son he would act like Barack Obama. – Satan

VorDaj on July 20, 2013 at 9:20 AM

Touche’

workingclass artist on July 20, 2013 at 9:24 AM

“The Martin family”, such as it is, raised a punk and a lowlife. That’s why he’s dead.

Child Protective Services, or whatever the Florida version is, should be prosecuting them. But O’Bozo is too dishonest to say so.

Jaibones on July 20, 2013 at 9:24 AM

If I had a son he would act like Barack Obama. – Satan

VorDaj on July 20, 2013 at 9:20 AM

After all what is a light worker if not a lucifer?

clnurnberg on July 20, 2013 at 9:25 AM

I am just glad the country is cruising along so well, that President Trayvon has nothing better to do than him up more race riots.

elowe on July 20, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Jazz, you aren’t black. You wouldn’t understand where the President was coming from.

nonpartisan on July 20, 2013 at 9:10 AM

This is the epitome of dividing the country. “You can’t understand me because you’re not in my group”.

The HotGas way is to judge people on the ideas they present, not on what group they belong to. We don’t even know or care who’s black, or a woman, or a foreign national. In different groups, yet we still manage to communicate. If you can’t do it, then that’s your failing. Make some effort to reach out to those different from you. Try.

Paul-Cincy on July 20, 2013 at 9:27 AM

It’s also an excellent way to preempt any discussion of the IRS scandal, too.

Mr. D on July 20, 2013 at 9:27 AM

The entire situation….hmmmm…

Large to small…

A culture erected by the liberals/progressives/democrats to foster dependency on government and taking away individual responsibility…it takes a village to raise a child, you know…

Inculcating into huge swaths of the population that it is perfectly permissible, encouraqed, even, to murder a human being an innocent life, yet unborn, in or out of the womb, because, one would not one of his daughters “punished” with a child…yet fnds it appaling that a punk criminal was shot by his intended victim in what the court ruled was self-defense…

Abetting, encouraging, financing and being friends with a culture that tells its audience to kill a Pig, waste as cop, burn it down…as the Gangsta Rap culture is celebrated, even in the East Room of the White House…and ignores that this punk kid in Florida was the epitome of that same culture…

Taking apart the Constitution, line by line and replacing it with “whatev’s”…so long as it gets more folk mo’ money and makes those that have being forced to give it to those who won’t…making a mockery of the very basis for our rule of law in this nation…thus enabling our President King on his own to try to overturn a verdict by other than legal means…

And to the small…

Ignoring completely that a punk-ass young adult decided of his own volition to attack a “white” creepy “ass-cracker” who he suspected of being gay…and telling him “you gonna die tonight” while trying to beat him senseless…

In the commission of a hate crime, Trayvon was killed by his intended victim in what was ruled self-defense…

And the President King wants all of us to step back and look at the whole situation?

What part did I miss, your Majesty?

coldwarrior on July 20, 2013 at 9:27 AM

coldwarrior on July 20, 2013 at 9:27 AM

I think your statement does not adequately honor the president!/////

clnurnberg on July 20, 2013 at 9:28 AM

O/T

Jazz —

How about an essay on the first manned moon landing — the greatest achievement of Man? And, of course, Americans did it! Call it a palate cleanser, maybe?

Just a thought, if you will, please.

Liam on July 20, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Jazz, you aren’t black. You wouldn’t understand where the President was coming from. nonpartisan on July 20, 2013 at 9:10 AM

We understand English, jaggazz. We can even read cursive.

Akzed on July 20, 2013 at 9:29 AM

The HotGas way is to judge people on the ideas they present, not on what group they belong to. We don’t even know or care who’s black, or a woman, or a foreign national. In different groups, yet we still manage to communicate. If you can’t do it, then that’s your failing. Make some effort to reach out to those different from you. Try.

Paul-Cincy on July 20, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Conservatism in a nutshell.

Superb, sir!

+gazillions

Liam on July 20, 2013 at 9:30 AM

If Matthews was any more white, he’d be transparent. I’m surprised he doesn’t get sunburn from fluorescent lights.

Liam on July 20, 2013 at 9:23 AM

“They spoke of his “incessant loquacity” and his habit of talking until the foam ran out of his mouth. Sometimes he suffered from convulsions, and his pages had to sit on him to keep him safe on the floor…”

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22122407

If King George were alive today…He’d have a TeeVee show like Matthews.

workingclass artist on July 20, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Anything in that ‘historic speech’ about standing down and going home instead of rioting, burning businesses and shop lifting? That was what he should have said.

Kissmygrits on July 20, 2013 at 9:03 AM

Here’s what he said on that topic:

Now, the question for me at least, and I think for a lot of folks, is where do we take this? How do we learn some lessons from this and move in a positive direction? I think it’s understandable that there have been demonstrations and vigils and protests, and some of that stuff is just going to have to work its way through, as long as it remains nonviolent. If I see any violence, then I will remind folks that that dishonors what happened to Trayvon Martin and his family. But beyond protests or vigils, the question is, are there some concrete things that we might be able to do.

So, the consequence of violence will be … a gentle reminder from Dear Leader that that’s not right.

Syzygy on July 20, 2013 at 9:30 AM

It’s also an excellent way to preempt any discussion of the IRS scandal, too.

Mr. D on July 20, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Aaand…Obstructing Justice in the Congressional Inquiry on Benghazi.

Yep.

workingclass artist on July 20, 2013 at 9:32 AM

THere are way too many Democrats who owe their success to a divided America. SOme people would declare that the culmination of the whole civil rights movement was the election of Barack Obama to the presidency. Not these people. It’s not over, it can’t be over, because they’re still making money off it not being over.

As far as the message goes, this President doesn’t know what happened in Sanford. He commented on something he knows nothing about. The jury knows more about what happened than the President does, yet he felt he should comment, in such a way, as to fan the flames of racism.

THe black community needs to find some leadership because the people they have now, the Sharptons, the Jacksons, the Fattahs, the Obamas, have done more harm than good. Their ideas have made it so that, when you see a black person coming down the street, your first thought could well be negative. If there were leaders there, your first thought would be positive. Why do I say that? You just don’t know what sort of problem this particular black person will have, when you see them from a distance. You know they’re black, but do they have a problem? Will they attack you? WIll they smile and say “Good Morning”. Will they speak in some strange dialect or speak English? One thing you can be relatively sure of, there’s a better than 50% chance they won’t be able to relate to you because of the lack of leadership and the effort of some to not “Act White” and get educated and become a success in the country.

bflat879 on July 20, 2013 at 9:33 AM

Liam on July 20, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Check this out, under the heading of “priorities.”

43 years ago today: Four dead in Ohio
posted at 1:01 pm on May 4, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

Akzed on July 20, 2013 at 9:33 AM

Instead of running his mouth maybe he should focus on the need to reject gangs, unlawful behavior, and profane music. He should be saying “behave in school” not mourning over the lost promise of a young burglar with a history of fighting in school. What, if not this grotesque excuse for a culture, the idea that if I don’t have what you do that you cheated me (not that you worked for what you have)and that I am therefore a victim, that creates all this hatred? Hatred is what Obama strives for it is only hatred of those who achieve and are peaceful that drives his vile agenda

clnurnberg on July 20, 2013 at 9:34 AM

Liam on July 20, 2013 at 9:29 AM

That’s actually not a bad idea. Let me scratch my head over that one for a bit.

Jazz Shaw on July 20, 2013 at 9:35 AM

If King George were alive today…He’d have a TeeVee show like Matthews.

workingclass artist on July 20, 2013 at 9:30 AM

George III had a legitimate medical condition.

Matthews is a white liberal — a choice.

I see no comparison. I’m more sympathetic to the late King than I could ever be to Chrissy.

Liam on July 20, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Check this out, under the heading of “priorities.”

43 years ago today: Four dead in Ohio
posted at 1:01 pm on May 4, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

Akzed on July 20, 2013 at 9:33 AM

But it did lead to a great Niel Young song!

Liam on July 20, 2013 at 9:37 AM

Liam on July 20, 2013 at 9:29 AM

44 years ago…we did what mankind dreamt of for thousands of years…touched the soil of another world…and it was one heck of an accomplishment in so short a time of effort…

But, today, according to the Book of King Obama…we didn’t build that…and besides, we wasted money we could have given to others, invested, you know, to folks more deserving…in order to carry out the most expensive example of imperialism and neocolonialism evah…like why were we trying to conquer and subjugate that entire Moon Race, anyway…they have rights, too…none of them survive today, THOSE moon people…wiped out by the evil forces of NASA…who ain’t doin’ too well with that Mohammedan outreach thing, either…

Yeah, that achievement?

Not important, Liam…was done by white folk…

/s////

coldwarrior on July 20, 2013 at 9:37 AM

And where is the Zola of our age…condemning the President for what now appears to be the Persecution of Zimmerman?

workingclass artist on July 20, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Nowhere.

The PTB in the GOP and the establishment on the Right have treated this whole affair, since March of 2012, like a stinky smelly turd they wanted nothing to do with. “Al Sharpton finally got one right”, there was a dead black “child”, and racism cooties were crawling all over it. If you touched it they might start crawling all over you.

They would have been fine if Zimmerman had been found guilty of something. And then that would be that. They were perfectly willing to offer up Zimmerman as a human sacrifice to the God of Black Grievance Appeasement.

Even now prominent pundits on the right still can’t get the facts right and accept and repeat some of the lies and misinformation the MSM propaganda machine is churning out, Krauthammer among them.

If Obama can manage to now verbally sacrifice Zimmerman, soft soap his mob, calm things down, and avoid major riots, many on the right will accept that and “move along”. Leaving a Zimmerman who was railroaded by the State and whose life has been destroyed to his fate.

farsighted on July 20, 2013 at 9:38 AM

My take: President Victimhood.

kingsjester on July 20, 2013 at 9:38 AM

Jazz, you aren’t black. You wouldn’t understand where the President was coming from. nonpartisan on July 20, 2013 at 9:10 AM

Reason # 5821 why race relations never improve.

nobar on July 20, 2013 at 9:38 AM

nonpartisan… we missed ya. Comedy gold.

CW on July 20, 2013 at 9:40 AM

The kindest and most naive explanation of Obama’s remarks is that he is again taking on the role of professor, standing above it all and explaining each side to the other.

It was actually part of what Andrew McCarthy describes as “The Obama Administration’s Race-Baiting Campaign,” firing up the base for the next election.

The Chicago Tribune columnist John Kass has a great column out on it:


President’s Trayvon speech worthy of maestro

Watching President Barack Obama play the race card late last week in the matter of the Zimmerman trial reminded me that the guy from Chicago has truly amazing powers.

He stood in the White House briefing room, and through the magic of his own silky rhetoric and skill with metaphor, he was able animate the body of a slain African-American teenager, Trayvon Martin.

Obama pronounced the killing as racially motivated, though he didn’t use the words. He didn’t have to, such is his prowess. It was so smooth that few noticed. He put the killing in a racial context, and that was enough…

What disgusting people they are.

Drained Brain on July 20, 2013 at 9:40 AM

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