Video: The media’s got a fee-vah and the only prescription is complaining about “Stand Your Ground” laws

posted at 2:28 pm on July 19, 2013 by Allahpundit

A nifty medley from Andrew Johnson at the Corner of our media collectively deciding what social justice now requires after the Zimmerman verdict. (Dick Durbin announced just this morning that he’ll be holding a Senate hearing on “stand your ground” laws, on the theory, I guess, that state legislatures are somehow incapable of doing so themselves.) Anyway: Is it true, as many supporters of the verdict have claimed, that “Stand Your Ground” had nothing to do with the outcome of the trial? Well, yes. And no. But also yes.

Had he chose, Zimmerman could have demanded a “Stand Your Ground” hearing in the pre-trial phase. If the judge had ruled in his favor, the charges would have been thrown out. He waived his right to that hearing, which means the media obsession with SYG is a total non sequitur, sort of like their obsession with gun laws post-Newtown that would have done zip to stop Adam Lanza. Right? Not exactly. The concept of standing your ground, i.e. having no duty to retreat when force is being used against you, is also part of the general self-defense law that Zimmerman did successfully invoke in being acquitted. From the jury instructions:

If George Zimmerman was not engaged in an unlawful activity and was attacked in any place where he had a right to be, he had no duty to retreat and had the right to stand his ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he reasonably believed that it was necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

Thirty-one states impose no duty to retreat on someone before they’re allowed to use force in their own defense versus just 19 that do. But wait — how do we know that SYG actually factored into the jury’s deliberations and affected the outcome? Just because the judge charged it doesn’t mean it mattered in the end. Well, thanks to juror B37, there’s circumstantial evidence to think that it did:

Juror B37: After hours and hours and hours of deliberating over the law, and reading it over and over and over again, we decided there’s just no way … because of the heat of the moment and the Stand Your Ground

Cooper: Even though it’s he [Zimmerman] who had gotten out of the car, followed Trayvon Martin, that didn’t matter in the deliberations? What mattered was those final seconds, minutes, when there was an altercation, and … in your mind the most important thing was whether or not George Zimmerman felt his life was in danger?

Juror: That’s how we read the law. That’s how we got to the point of everybody being “not guilty.”

Cooper: So that was the belief of the jury, that you had to zero in on those final minutes/seconds, about the threat that George Zimmerman believed he faced?

Juror: That’s exactly what had happened.

That’s just one juror’s read on the situation, not all six, but obviously SYG did make it into the jury room. The question is, would the verdict have been different if Florida law imposed a duty to retreat instead? I’m thinking probably not. If you believe Zimmerman’s version of the fight, which the jurors apparently did, Martin ambushed him with a punch, knocking him to the ground, and then jumped on top of him to continue the beating. There was no opportunity for “retreat,” a point also made by Jacob Sullum at Reason. The duty to retreat affects the outcome here only if you extend the concept of “retreat” temporally to apply before there was any confrontation. I.e. Zimmerman got out of his car to keep an eye on Martin, ergo he’s guilty of manslaughter for not letting the other guy bang his head on the concrete subsequently. Is that a more just result? Does it matter, for that matter, that even “stand your ground” laws don’t apply if the person claiming self-defense is found to have provoked the use of force against himself? How far does the left want to stretch the concept of “retreat” here?

Don’t take any of this too seriously, though. Like I said yesterday, the SYG outcry is less about the particulars of the Zimmerman case and more about giving liberals something to rally around for the midterms when the DOJ inevitably decides not to prosecute Zimmerman. This is politics.


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The Burning Days.

a capella on July 19, 2013 at 3:24 PM

So the victim has a duty to run away?

What’s the aggressor’s duty?

If li’l Trayvon was the victim, should he have run away, or jumped George Z. like he did?

This is all getting so hard to process,

Akzed on July 19, 2013 at 3:24 PM

Video: The media’s got a fee-vah and the only prescription is complaining about “Stand Your Ground” laws

Of course, they’re bored. There’s nothing else to investigate like the IRS intimidation of Conservative groups, the FBI actions concerning the Boston Marathon bombing, the corruption in Detroit and a dozen other failing cities, Benghazi, government involvement with Al-Qaeda, government involvement with the Muslim Brotherhood, missing “stimulus” money, Snowden’s allegations, the arms buildup over at DHS, the truth behind Obamacare, Fast and Furious, the pissing away of taxpayers money by the IRS, what the heck the real name of our current President is, what really happened to Andrew Breitbart (and one of his medical examiners), Chris Kyle, Michael Hastings and TWA Flight 800, FBI agents Lorek and Shaw, the SEAL team 6 deaths, or maybe even the circumstances surrounding Pat Tillman’s death.

(To be fair, even the Conservative MSM doesn’t want to investigate half or more of this stuff, either. They just want to sit around complaining about Dems all day, without being too disrespectful or un-PC of course.)

And certainly they’re not going to make a huge deal about stuff like this that I just recently happen to run into:

Dem Officials Convicted of Fraud in Getting Obama, Clinton on 2008 Ballot

These “journalists” have been complaining for decades (usually only when there’s a Republican in the White House) about how we’re becoming a Nazi state, but the way they act Dr. Goebbels may just as well be in charge. These clowns are even more dangerous because they voluntarily lie and omit or downplay important facts while wrapping themselves up in the Flag and the Constitution.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 19, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Does that mean that Obama used to run around high on “choom” with skittles, and Iced Tea while assaulting hispanic neighborhood watch volunteers? Because that’s sure as hell what is sounds like to me… E L Frederick (Sniper One) on July 19, 2013 at 2:30 PM

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It wasn’t iced tea, it was watermelon juice. Honest.

I know that it’s racist to know that. Sorry.

Akzed on July 19, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Secondly, Obama is blaming the woes of the black community on slavery (150 years ago) and past racism.

sentinelrules on July 19, 2013 at 3:22 PM

…while his own family in Kenya sold them to the ships…and he stood sanctimonioulsy at the faux Senegal gate. That is just for pictures. No way could a ship ever get close in those shallow waters…but for another thread.

obama wants reparations but he broke the land financially and can’t go there.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 3:25 PM

All Traybama’s comments will do is allow blacks to kill more blacks and destruct more black property – just like what happens in Chicago and other cities every day. Omartin’s words won’t change anything else- hopefully more people will wake up, see what our Nobel Peace Prize winning messiah is doing, and respond.

P.S. – Most of the gangbangas in my town know to steer clear from neighborhoods like mine or face the consequences.

fortcoins on July 19, 2013 at 3:25 PM

If you take the party line as a given: “it’s open season on blacks, and whites and white Hispanics are coming for them,” who stands to gain most from stand-your-ground laws? The people doing the attacking, or the people who would need to retreat–turning their defenseless backs on their attackers–before defending themselves?

So, if you’re pushing for SYG repeal, it follows that you feel secure and know that whites and white Hispanics aren’t using blacks for casual target practice, and SYG laws can be safely discarded.

HakerA on July 19, 2013 at 3:25 PM

And there are very few African-American men who haven’t had the experience of walking across the street and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars. That happens to me, at least before I was a senator. There are very few African-Americans who haven’t had the experience of getting on an elevator and a woman clutching her purse nervously and holding her breath until she had a chance to get off. That happens often.

And you know, I don’t want to exaggerate this, but those sets of experiences inform how the African-American community interprets what happened one night in Florida. And it’s inescapable for people to bring those experiences to bear.

President Obama

You can bury your head in the sand, or you can actually try and listen and understand. Haven’t felt this positively about Barack Obama since before the appointment of Tim Geithner.

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:13 PM

OK. I have read the President’s statement, as you posted it, several times.
As a bit of a lesson on social issues, I get it. In fact, I am in no position to argue with what he is saying.

I do not see how anything he said is pertinent in a court of law.

Jabberwock on July 19, 2013 at 3:26 PM

No man or woman should be able to tell me that I’m not allowed to defend myself. The fact that we even had to pass SYG laws demonstrates the lunatic legacy of the left.

Hat Trick on July 19, 2013 at 3:26 PM

And there are very few African-American men who haven’t had the experience of walking across the street and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars. That happens to me, at least before I was a senator. There are very few African-Americans who haven’t had the experience of getting on an elevator and a woman clutching her purse nervously and holding her breath until she had a chance to get off. That happens often.

And you know, I don’t want to exaggerate this, but those sets of experiences inform how the African-American community interprets what happened one night in Florida. And it’s inescapable for people to bring those experiences to bear.

You can bury your head in the sand, or you can actually try and listen and understand. Haven’t felt this positively about Barack Obama since before the appointment of Tim Geithner.

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:13 PM

And most of the people locking doors and holding their breath are likely other African-Americans

questionmark on July 19, 2013 at 3:26 PM

How did Dear Leader get elected in such a racist country..?

d1carter on July 19, 2013 at 3:26 PM

I see Libfreeordie, apparently in accordance with Obama, thinks that ONLY black peoples are followed in department stores…. because he also believes the world revolves around his own sense of victimhood.

I’ve been followed around department stores. I think most of us have. The difference is that most of us understand that store security is doing a necessary job to try and protect the store’s property, that they don’t care what race or ethnicity any given individual happens to be, and WE DON’T TAKE IT PERSONALLY and automatically assume it’s because of our race.

I’d also like to point out that if a person is carrying a large bag, or wearing baggy, oversized clothing, particularly if that clothing is seasonally inappropriate ( like a sweatshirt or a large coat in warm weather) they will be followed and scrutinized by store security personnel. It doesn’t matter who they are, what their race or ethnicity may be, the issues is the bag and/or clothing providing means to hide property not paid for at the register. Another surefire way to get the attention of store security personnel is to make a point of checking out the security installations, like cameras and mirrors, and tracking where store personnel are at any given moment.

How is it that I’m so sure about this? I used to be the General Manager of a very upscale, high-end, ladies retail clothing chain. Believe me, the issue occupying the minds of management and store security personnel is stopping theft and vandalism, not picking on people because of the color of their skin. The bottom line is the primary concern of any retailer, and everyone’s money is the same color.

thatsafactjack on July 19, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Allah and Ed probably are holding off on posting Obama’s press conference about the Zimmerman verdict because they are negotiating new ad rates. Its going to be EPIC!

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Did Zero hold a press conference? I hadn’t noticed. How out of character for him. I wonder how many pre-screened questions he will allow?

stvnscott on July 19, 2013 at 3:27 PM

I do not see how anything he said is pertinent in a court of law.

Jabberwock on July 19, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Read the whole statement. He isn’t saying anything about the trial itself. He is communicating how black citizens feel. We are citizens too and for the first time, a President (RARELY) is speaking to us. Sort of the way Bush constantly spoke to Christians.

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Its going to be EPIC!

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 2:49 PM

You spell like Jeantel talks. She speaks 3 languages but English is not one of them.

YOU are a professor! No wonder the land is in Detroit status.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Low-information perfesser new school. You old, old school.

slickwillie2001 on July 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM

thatsafactjack on July 19, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Fair lady, you make too much sense :)

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Y’all are not ready for this much truth…

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:11 PM

? It was a minute and a half video. Full of creepy ass crackers.

onomo on July 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Anyone up for a talk-like-Rachel Jeantel day?

Only one rule, -no verbs or articles allowed.

slickwillie2001 on July 19, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Sort of the way Bush constantly spoke to Christians.

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Like Hell. Your “president” is nothing but a Community Organizer. His words were designed to inflame and ignite.

If any blood spills tomorrow and Sunday, it is on him.

kingsjester on July 19, 2013 at 3:30 PM

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM

He speaks and you hear poverty and slavery pimping. You exploit the black and other minority communities, for your own power and glory, you hyenas.

Otherwise so many black youth wouldn’t be in the misery they’re in, under the obama they so hopefully voted for.

He has done Nothing, Nothing, Nothing for them. He hates them, in fact, while he leads the life of billionnaires.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 3:31 PM

I think the African-American community is also not naive in understanding that statistically somebody like Trayvon Martin was probably statistically more likely to be shot by a peer than he was by somebody else.
 
Y’all. Not. Ready.
 
libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:20 PM

 
We not ready?
 

We are citizens too and for the first time, a President (RARELY) is speaking to us.
 
libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM

 
Hint: Don’t assume everyone else is also just now learning the basics about adult topics.

rogerb on July 19, 2013 at 3:31 PM

OT:

Speaking of liberals and deranged laws. I traveled to San Fran for the first time… wow what a chithole. Every single block had 20-30 homeless bums, panhandling for everything and anything.

Filthy garbage strewn streets and batchit, subsidized folks just wandering around…

It ranks 4 spots below Darfur, Kabul and Cairo as “Places I need to take the family”

Odie1941 on July 19, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Read the whole statement. He isn’t saying anything about the trial itself. He is communicating how black citizens feel. We are citizens too and for the first time, a President (RARELY) is speaking to us. Sort of the way Bush constantly spoke to Christians.

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Are you proud of your victimhood status? Quite frankly I find the entire spectacle (and you) rather pathetic. “Speaking to you”…like I already said, a child among men. Stand up and take care of your damn self and your family, or STFU. Being a victim is embarrassing and enfeebling.

NotCoach on July 19, 2013 at 3:31 PM

We are citizens too and for the first time, a President (RARELY) is speaking to us. Sort of the way Bush constantly spoke to Christians.

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM

I thought Bill Clinton was the first Black President.

Besides, Charles Barkley and Bill Cosby are the Emperors of Black People. Listen to them.

sentinelrules on July 19, 2013 at 3:32 PM

How lfod, Obama, and Holder see whites.

Christien on July 19, 2013 at 3:33 PM

We are citizens too and for the first time, a President (RARELY) is speaking to us.

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM

You want equality? MLK died for it.

Alas, you don’t. A president is supposed to speak to all the land’s people.

When will you ever free yourself and do good, not just for you?

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Read the whole statement. He isn’t saying anything about the trial itself. He is communicating how black citizens feel. We are citizens too and for the first time, a President (RARELY) is speaking to us. Sort of the way Bush constantly spoke to Christians.

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Seriously, leave the Strawmen alone, they did nothing to warrant an attack on them, they are people too!

Johnnyreb on July 19, 2013 at 3:33 PM

He is communicating how black citizens feel. We are citizens too and for the first time, a President (RARELY) is speaking to us. Sort of the way Bush constantly spoke to Christians.

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM

You’re so full of sh*t, and so morally lost, it’s sorrowful. He just left your “black citizens” to rot in Detroit. He doesn’t give a sh*t about “black citizens.” He has two interests — division and aggrandizement. If you haven’t figured out this by now, just looking across the polarized and suffering American landscape, with the black unemployent, poverty rates and general misery index soaring, and the total country forced to recalibrate its sense of freedom in society and American happiness, you’re truly lost and deserve just what you get from this shallow, four-flushing punk.

rrpjr on July 19, 2013 at 3:34 PM

White Hispanics are citizens too.

Does obama hate them?

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 3:35 PM

As usual the President actually gives conservatives what they want in terms of his language and philosophy, but the weird irrational dislike of the man causes them to refuse to recognize their own approach in him.

From the end of the speech

You know, I’m not naive about the prospects of some brand-new federal program.

I’m not sure that that’s what we’re talking about here. But I do recognize that as president, I’ve got some convening power.

And there are a lot of good programs that are being done across the country on this front. And for us to be able to gather together business leaders and local elected officials and clergy and celebrities and athletes and figure out how are we doing a better job helping young African-American men feel that they’re a full part of this society and that — and that they’ve got pathways and avenues to succeed — you know, I think that would be a pretty good outcome from what was obviously a tragic situation. And we’re going to spend some time working on that and thinking about that.

And then finally, I think it’s going to be important for all of us to do some soul-searching. You know, there have been talk about should we convene a conversation on race. I haven’t seen that be particularly productive when politicians try to organize conversations. They end up being stilted and politicized, and folks are locked into the positions they already have.

On the other hand, in families and churches and workplaces, there’s a possibility that people are a little bit more honest, and at least you ask yourself your own questions about, am I wringing as much bias out of myself as I can; am I judging people, as much as I can, based on not the color of their skin but the content of their character? That would, I think, be an appropriate exercise in the wake of this tragedy.

And let me just leave you with — with a final thought, that as difficult and challenging as this whole episode has been for a lot of people, I don’t want us to lose sight that things are getting better. Each successive generation seems to be making progress in changing attitudes when it comes to race. I doesn’t mean that we’re in a postracial society. It doesn’t mean that racism is eliminated. But you know, when I talk to Malia and Sasha and I listen to their friends and I see them interact, they’re better than we are. They’re better than we were on these issues. And that’s true in every community that I’ve visited all across the country.

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:36 PM

You’re so full of sh*t, and so morally lost, it’s sorrowful. He just left your “black citizens” to rot in Detroit. He doesn’t give a sh*t about “black citizens.” He has two interests — division and aggrandizement. If you haven’t figured out this by now, just looking across the polarized and suffering American landscape, with the black unemployent, poverty rates and general misery index soaring, and the total country forced to recalibrate its sense of freedom in society and American happiness, you’re truly lost and deserve just what you get from this shallow, four-flushing punk.

rrpjr on July 19, 2013 at 3:34 PM

If the HA slave would utilized his God-given brain he’d be an independent thinker, alas.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 3:36 PM

sartana on July 19, 2013 at 2:34 PM

You know, if you don’t like what the owners of a site write, one would think that you would avoid the site.
Yet, here you are…whining and sniveling about something that hasn’t been written.

Sounds rather idiotic to me. Could it be that…

You’re an idiot.

Solaratov on July 19, 2013 at 3:37 PM

utilize

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Y’all. Not. Ready.

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:20 PM

I wonder if Y’all are ready for this story.

2wks ago a young black woman came to my door selling cleaning solution.
First thing out of her mouth was “Don’t boot me out, like your neighbor just did cause of ya know my skin color.”

I said “you mean the neighbors that had an obama 2012 poster in their window for months?”

I told her that it might not be the best selling strategy to accuse my neighbor and myself of racism.

Later in the conversation,(as it was raining heavily) I offered her a rain poncho after I gave her the drink she asked for.

She say’s “Oh god you’re not Mexican are you, I hate Mexicans’s.”

I went to get the raincoat anyway, ya know the one with Rain Poncho clearly displayed on the lable. I gave it to her anyway.

MontanaMmmm on July 19, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Read the whole statement. He isn’t saying anything about the trial itself. He is communicating how black citizens feel. We are citizens too and for the first time, a President (RARELY) is speaking to us. Sort of the way Bush constantly spoke to Christians.

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Ahh.. yes – the victim segregation mentality that affects black Americans.

In line with “snitches get stiches” and “I am proud of my country for the first time”

Yet, unemployment, murder and poverty are at all time highs for black Americans during the reign of Black Obama…

Odie1941 on July 19, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Read the whole statement. He isn’t saying anything about the trial itself. He is communicating how black citizens feel. We are citizens too and for the first time, a President (RARELY) is speaking to us. Sort of the way Bush constantly spoke to Christians.

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Funny how it took 5 years and a teenager who got himself killed at the the hands of a Hispanic democrat to get the second black president to speak to ‘you’. And you somehow feel good about it. Absurd.

stvnscott on July 19, 2013 at 3:37 PM

It only became threatening WHEN Martin punched Zimmerman in the face and knocked him to the ground which prevented him from retreating anywhere. This idea that non criminals have to now take a beating from criminals is just not going to fly.

Blake on July 19, 2013 at 3:38 PM

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM

 
Seriously, leave the Strawmen alone, they did nothing to warrant an attack on them, they are people too!
 
Johnnyreb on July 19, 2013 at 3:33 PM

 
Y’all type wrong. It “they people, too”.

rogerb on July 19, 2013 at 3:38 PM

How lfod, Obama, and Holder see whites.

Christien on July 19, 2013 at 3:33 PM

That was great, the best laugh I had all week!

Liam on July 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM

REVEALED: Video of libfree in the classroom.

Christien on July 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM

And let me just leave you with — with a final thought, that as difficult and challenging as this whole episode has been for a lot of people, I don’t want us to lose sight that things are getting better. Each successive generation seems to be making progress in changing attitudes when it comes to race. I doesn’t mean that we’re in a postracial society. It doesn’t mean that racism is eliminated. But you know, when I talk to Malia and Sasha and I listen to their friends and I see them interact, they’re better than we are. They’re better than we were on these issues. And that’s true in every community that I’ve visited all across the country.

They are, but you, the midget of the land, have done nothing to make it better, not for the blacks, not for the whites, not for anyone, except yourself.

Alas, he could have been a great president but he is what he’s always been, an agitator, a huckster for hue alone, and his own narcissistic glory.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 3:40 PM

MontanaMmmm on July 19, 2013 at 3:37 PM

He has no clue who the racists are in today’s world. And he never will. Brainfree will go to his grave proud that he’s a victim.

NotCoach on July 19, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Just because the judge charged it doesn’t mean it mattered in the end. Well, thanks to juror B37, there’s circumstantial evidence to think that it did:

B37 said it was all confusing, and she still seems confused.

At one point she says…

…because of the heat of the moment and the Stand Your Ground …

But then…

Cooper: … in your mind the most important thing was whether or not George Zimmerman felt his life was in danger?

Juror: That’s how we read the law. That’s how we got to the point of everybody being “not guilty.”

And four other jurors issued a statement saying they do not necessarily agree with B37′s opinions. Those are her opinions.

No surprise it took them so long read the laws and understand them.

The defense argued at length that “George Zimmerman felt his life was in danger”, on cross of the prosecution’s witnesses and with its own witnesses. The defense said not a word about SYG. It was a straight up case of self-defense.

The prosecution said not a word about SYG. The prosecution argued that Zimmerman’s injuries were minor and that, essentially, he was lying about his fear of great bodily harm or death.

The libs hate SYG, they hate guns, and they hate conceal carry. They are trying to score political points off of Trayvon’s dead body.

farsighted on July 19, 2013 at 3:41 PM

MontanaMmmm on July 19, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Duh, good one, that’s not “racism”…that’s just “cultural difference btw. blacks and Mexicans”.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM

lol! Good afternoon, my friend. :)

Perhaps that is so. It’s a failing in today’s world, certainly.

You know, in the issue of tripping the car’s automatic locks…. I do it automatically as soon as I get in the car. It has nothing to do with anyone’s race and everything to do with this being a dangerous world. As Queen Elizabeth I remarked ” …I have the body of a weak and frail woman…” ( Okay.. not nearly so weak or frail as one might think… but the point is a good one as women are marks in today’s world for every sort of criminal… and there aren’t nearly so many good men around to lend us their protection these days). I don’t carry a handbag, in any case, but if anyone should think of touching my briefcase, I don’t care what their race, they had better consider it carefully, with extraordinary caution… and a fully paid insurance policy. My intellectual property is in that case, and no one may touch it for any reason. Obama put those same sentiments (or, at least his ghostwriter did)in his book “Dreams From My Father”…perhaps he was thinking of his grandmother’s generation.

thatsafactjack on July 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM

So, if the goal is to bring people together and make things better, why does he not follow-up the “If I had a son he would look like Trayvon / could have been me” notion with “and if I had a neighbor he could have been George Zimmerman” ?

questionmark on July 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM

As usual the President actually gives conservatives what they want in terms of his language and philosophy, but the weird irrational dislike of the man causes them to refuse to recognize their own approach in him.

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:36 PM

Why should I listen to him?

Why should I listen to an anti-Semite/anti-Israel bigot like Obama?
Why should I listen to a man whose mentor was the bigot Reverend Jeremiah Wright?
Why should I listen to a man who commented on one case, but refuses to comment on black on white crime cases?

Why should I listen to a man who is obvious narcissist, who can’t take blame for his actions?

Why should I listen to a bigot like Obama?

sentinelrules on July 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM

He is communicating how black citizens feel. We are citizens too and for the first time, a President (RARELY) is speaking to us.
 
libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM

 

am I judging people, as much as I can, based on not the color of their skin but the content of their character? That would, I think, be an appropriate exercise in the wake of this tragedy.
 
libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:36 PM

 
Boomerangs are neat.

rogerb on July 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM

You can bury your head in the sand, or you can actually try and listen and understand. Haven’t felt this positively about Barack Obama since before the appointment of Tim Geithner.

libfreeordie

We understand perfectly. Apparently, according to you and Obama, being black means one is incapable of behaving rationally and exercising self-control, and it’s up to non-blacks to find ways to accommodate them. But yeah, we’re the racists.

xblade on July 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM

If he was TrayVon……he wouldn’t have a job!!!!!

PappyD61 on July 19, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Boomerangs are neat.

rogerb on July 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM

rogerbs are national treasures

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Indeed, Jack(ie), indeed.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Haven’t felt this positively about Barack Obama since before the appointment of Tim Geithner.

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:13 PM

You make cheap appear indignant.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 3:47 PM

So, according to libfree, speaking TO the black community more than makes up for 5 years of dumping crap on them.

questionmark on July 19, 2013 at 3:48 PM

That was great, the best laugh I had all week!

Liam on July 19, 2013 at 3:39 PM

lfod’s got game. Unfortunately, it’s called Fronthand/Backhand.

Christien on July 19, 2013 at 3:50 PM

For all we know, Obama and Trayvon had the same GPA in school…

nextgen_repub on July 19, 2013 at 3:51 PM

********* Hopey/Changeys Presser Speechy Trancsript:

Mark Knoller ‏@markknoller 19m

WH has posted transcript of Pres. Obama’s remarks today on Trayvon Martin/George Zimmerman case. http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2013/07/19/remarks-president-trayvon-martin
====================================================

For Immediate Release
July 19, 2013
Remarks by the President on Trayvon Martin

James S. Brady Press Briefing Room

1:33 P.M. EDT
**************

THE PRESIDENT:
**************

I wanted to come out here, first of all, to tell you that Jay is prepared for all your questions and is very much looking forward to the session. The second thing is I want to let you know that over the next couple of weeks, there’s going to obviously be a whole range of issues — immigration, economics, et cetera — we’ll try to arrange a fuller press conference to address your questions.

The reason I actually wanted to come out today is not to take questions, but to speak to an issue that obviously has gotten a lot of attention over the course of the last week — the issue of the Trayvon Martin ruling. I gave a preliminary statement right after the ruling on Sunday. But watching the debate over the course of the last week, I thought it might be useful for me to expand on my thoughts a little bit.

First of all, I want to make sure that, once again, I send my thoughts and prayers, as well as Michelle’s, to the family of Trayvon Martin, and to remark on the incredible grace and dignity with which they’ve dealt with the entire situation. I can only imagine what they’re going through, and it’s remarkable how they’ve handled it.

The second thing I want to say is to reiterate what I said on Sunday, which is there’s going to be a lot of arguments about the legal issues in the case — I’ll let all the legal analysts and talking heads address those issues. The judge conducted the trial in a professional manner. The prosecution and the defense made their arguments. The juries were properly instructed that in a case such as this reasonable doubt was relevant, and they rendered a verdict. And once the jury has spoken, that’s how our system works. But I did want to just talk a little bit about context and how people have responded to it and how people are feeling.

You know, when Trayvon Martin was first shot I said that this could have been my son. Another way of saying that is Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago. And when you think about why, in the African American community at least, there’s a lot of pain around what happened here, I think it’s important to recognize that the African American community is looking at this issue through a set of experiences and a history that doesn’t go away.

There are very few African American men in this country who haven’t had the experience of being followed when they were shopping in a department store. That includes me. There are very few African American men who haven’t had the experience of walking across the street and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars. That happens to me — at least before I was a senator. There are very few African Americans who haven’t had the experience of getting on an elevator and a woman clutching her purse nervously and holding her breath until she had a chance to get off. That happens often.

And I don’t want to exaggerate this, but those sets of experiences inform how the African American community interprets what happened one night in Florida. And it’s inescapable for people to bring those experiences to bear. The African American community is also knowledgeable that there is a history of racial disparities in the application of our criminal laws — everything from the death penalty to enforcement of our drug laws. And that ends up having an impact in terms of how people interpret the case.

Now, this isn’t to say that the African American community is naïve about the fact that African American young men are disproportionately involved in the criminal justice system; that they’re disproportionately both victims and perpetrators of violence. It’s not to make excuses for that fact — although black folks do interpret the reasons for that in a historical context. They understand that some of the violence that takes place in poor black neighborhoods around the country is born out of a very violent past in this country, and that the poverty and dysfunction that we see in those communities can be traced to a very difficult history.

And so the fact that sometimes that’s unacknowledged adds to the frustration. And the fact that a lot of African American boys are painted with a broad brush and the excuse is given, well, there are these statistics out there that show that African American boys are more violent — using that as an excuse to then see sons treated differently causes pain.

I think the African American community is also not naïve in understanding that, statistically, somebody like Trayvon Martin was statistically more likely to be shot by a peer than he was by somebody else. So folks understand the challenges that exist for African American boys. But they get frustrated, I think, if they feel that there’s no context for it and that context is being denied. And that all contributes I think to a sense that if a white male teen was involved in the same kind of scenario, that, from top to bottom, both the outcome and the aftermath might have been different.

Now, the question for me at least, and I think for a lot of folks, is where do we take this? How do we learn some lessons from this and move in a positive direction? I think it’s understandable that there have been demonstrations and vigils and protests, and some of that stuff is just going to have to work its way through, as long as it remains nonviolent. If I see any violence, then I will remind folks that that dishonors what happened to Trayvon Martin and his family. But beyond protests or vigils, the question is, are there some concrete things that we might be able to do.

I know that Eric Holder is reviewing what happened down there, but I think it’s important for people to have some clear expectations here. Traditionally, these are issues of state and local government, the criminal code. And law enforcement is traditionally done at the state and local levels, not at the federal levels.

That doesn’t mean, though, that as a nation we can’t do some things that I think would be productive. So let me just give a couple of specifics that I’m still bouncing around with my staff, so we’re not rolling out some five-point plan, but some areas where I think all of us could potentially focus.

Number one, precisely because law enforcement is often determined at the state and local level, I think it would be productive for the Justice Department, governors, mayors to work with law enforcement about training at the state and local levels in order to reduce the kind of mistrust in the system that sometimes currently exists.

When I was in Illinois, I passed racial profiling legislation, and it actually did just two simple things. One, it collected data on traffic stops and the race of the person who was stopped. But the other thing was it resourced us training police departments across the state on how to think about potential racial bias and ways to further professionalize what they were doing.

And initially, the police departments across the state were resistant, but actually they came to recognize that if it was done in a fair, straightforward way that it would allow them to do their jobs better and communities would have more confidence in them and, in turn, be more helpful in applying the law. And obviously, law enforcement has got a very tough job.

So that’s one area where I think there are a lot of resources and best practices that could be brought to bear if state and local governments are receptive. And I think a lot of them would be. And let’s figure out are there ways for us to push out that kind of training.

Along the same lines, I think it would be useful for us to examine some state and local laws to see if it — if they are designed in such a way that they may encourage the kinds of altercations and confrontations and tragedies that we saw in the Florida case, rather than diffuse potential altercations.

I know that there’s been commentary about the fact that the “stand your ground” laws in Florida were not used as a defense in the case. On the other hand, if we’re sending a message as a society in our communities that someone who is armed potentially has the right to use those firearms even if there’s a way for them to exit from a situation, is that really going to be contributing to the kind of peace and security and order that we’d like to see?

And for those who resist that idea that we should think about something like these “stand your ground” laws, I’d just ask people to consider, if Trayvon Martin was of age and armed, could he have stood his ground on that sidewalk? And do we actually think that he would have been justified in shooting Mr. Zimmerman who had followed him in a car because he felt threatened? And if the answer to that question is at least ambiguous, then it seems to me that we might want to examine those kinds of laws.

Number three — and this is a long-term project — we need to spend some time in thinking about how do we bolster and reinforce our African American boys. And this is something that Michelle and I talk a lot about. There are a lot of kids out there who need help who are getting a lot of negative reinforcement. And is there more that we can do to give them the sense that their country cares about them and values them and is willing to invest in them?

I’m not naïve about the prospects of some grand, new federal program. I’m not sure that that’s what we’re talking about here. But I do recognize that as President, I’ve got some convening power, and there are a lot of good programs that are being done across the country on this front. And for us to be able to gather together business leaders and local elected officials and clergy and celebrities and athletes, and figure out how are we doing a better job helping young African American men feel that they’re a full part of this society and that they’ve got pathways and avenues to succeed — I think that would be a pretty good outcome from what was obviously a tragic situation. And we’re going to spend some time working on that and thinking about that.

And then, finally, I think it’s going to be important for all of us to do some soul-searching. There has been talk about should we convene a conversation on race. I haven’t seen that be particularly productive when politicians try to organize conversations. They end up being stilted and politicized, and folks are locked into the positions they already have. On the other hand, in families and churches and workplaces, there’s the possibility that people are a little bit more honest, and at least you ask yourself your own questions about, am I wringing as much bias out of myself as I can? Am I judging people as much as I can, based on not the color of their skin, but the content of their character? That would, I think, be an appropriate exercise in the wake of this tragedy.

And let me just leave you with a final thought that, as difficult and challenging as this whole episode has been for a lot of people, I don’t want us to lose sight that things are getting better. Each successive generation seems to be making progress in changing attitudes when it comes to race. It doesn’t mean we’re in a post-racial society. It doesn’t mean that racism is eliminated. But when I talk to Malia and Sasha, and I listen to their friends and I seem them interact, they’re better than we are — they’re better than we were — on these issues. And that’s true in every community that I’ve visited all across the country.

And so we have to be vigilant and we have to work on these issues. And those of us in authority should be doing everything we can to encourage the better angels of our nature, as opposed to using these episodes to heighten divisions. But we should also have confidence that kids these days, I think, have more sense than we did back then, and certainly more than our parents did or our grandparents did; and that along this long, difficult journey, we’re becoming a more perfect union — not a perfect union, but a more perfect union.

Thank you, guys.

END

1:52 P.M. EDT

canopfor on July 19, 2013 at 3:51 PM

So, according to libfree, speaking TO the black community more than makes up for 5 years of dumping crap on them.

questionmark on July 19, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Yeah, well, stupid is as stupid does. Blacks have certainly suffered disproportionately under Obama, but hey, he speaks to brianfree so all is good!

NotCoach on July 19, 2013 at 3:52 PM

Allen West is a one blessed real man and mensch.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 3:53 PM

lfod’s got game. Unfortunately, it’s called Fronthand/Backhand.

Christien on July 19, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Smarter than Jeantel?

Liam on July 19, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Allah and Ed probably are holding off on posting Obama’s press conference about the Zimmerman verdict because they are negotiating new ad rates. Its going to be EPIC!

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 2:49 PM

You’re already epic, liveasaslaveanddie.

You’re an EPIC idiot, princess.

Solaratov on July 19, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Boomerangs are neat.

rogerb on July 19, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Well Done !!
Second time today Libfree has taken it on the chin.
RWM landed a solid knockout in the Apartheid thread earlier.

Wonder if he can find a third knockdown today to end it for the week !

Jabberwock on July 19, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Yup.

Both Obama and libfreeordie are admitting that all black people are like Trayvon, violent drug-using thugs who shoplift, have sex with and take pictures of underage girls, and who have to be treated like dangerous wild animals.

Just like white liberals want. Notice how white liberals and their house slaves like libfreeordie glorify violence, bigotry, gibberish, hatred of white people, contempt for education (aka “acting white”), welfare dependence, and rioting — and demonize accomplished, successful, and educated black people like Condi Rice, Mia Love, Herman Cain, JC Watts, Tim Scott, and others as race traitors and Oreos.

The Obama Party wants all black children either to be aborted or to grow up into Trayvon Martin and Rachel Jeantel.

They are sick, depraved racists.

northdallasthirty on July 19, 2013 at 3:55 PM

Along the same lines, I think it would be useful for us to examine some state and local laws to see if it — if they are designed in such a way that they may encourage the kinds of altercations and confrontations and tragedies that we saw in the Florida case, rather than diffuse potential altercations.
 
canopfor on July 19, 2013 at 3:51 PM

 
Read that part again in context of his previous paragraph.
 
Is he suggesting anti-racial-profiling laws on private citizens?

 

And do we actually think that he would have been justified in shooting Mr. Zimmerman who had followed him in a car because he felt threatened?

 
Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States.

rogerb on July 19, 2013 at 3:57 PM

So, now that blacks are burning down businesses and smashing people’s faces with hammers and beating up typical whitey women on their way to a hospital, is Jeantel Mooch proud of her country finally ?

burrata on July 19, 2013 at 3:58 PM

Read the whole statement. He isn’t saying anything about the trial itself. He is communicating how black citizens feel. We are citizens too and for the first time, a President (RARELY) is speaking to us. Sort of the way Bush constantly spoke to Christians.

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:28 PM

It’s unsurprising that his mindset – and yours – are nothing but perceived victimhood.

If *you* had a few moments of reflection and two brain cells to rub together, you *might* someday begin to ask *why* would people in their cars lock their doors like that – *why* might those women clutch their purses a bit tighter?

And then you might seek out some crime statistic data to see if your answer lies therein. Hint: it does.

You don’t have to go back 150 years, makeup crap about institutionalized slavery, champ – look to the black community’s behavior as a disproportionate statistical factor in crime, and *there* is your f*cking answer.

We’re speaking broadly, but quit blaming everyone else for their logical behavioral response to the black community’s atrocious behavior.

Midas on July 19, 2013 at 3:58 PM

He has no clue who the racists are in today’s world. And he never will. Brainfree will go to his grave proud that he’s a victim.

NotCoach on July 19, 2013 at 3:40 PM

He considers himself morally superior because he “cares” and thinks we don’t. He thinks it’s good enough to say you care. It’s a state of stunted childishness upon which is layered resentment — the educational process of the leftist in America is the accumulation of resentments which have no relief except through the idiotic dream of the “new world,” the revolutionary Utopia.

Breitbart talked about how when he was a stupid liberal kid he thought just by mouthing the right “I care” nostrums he felt sanctified and superior. He didn’t have any idea of how those who truly care build businesses and societies and cultures around the idea of aspiration and freedom — it is they who make and subsidize a society that is capable of caring. Otherwise you just get Detroits. Where everybody “cared” so much but no one really cared enough to concern themselves with the realities of life.

rrpjr on July 19, 2013 at 3:59 PM

Smarter than Jeantel?

Liam on July 19, 2013 at 3:53 PM

It’s a tie. Neither one knows how to quit when one is behind or the Rule of Holes. New School FTW!

Christien on July 19, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Don’t take any of this too seriously, though. Like I said yesterday, the SYG outcry is less about the particulars of the Zimmerman case and more about giving liberals something to rally around for the midterms when the DOJ inevitably decides not to prosecute Zimmerman. This is politics.

The midterms are 16 months away. Will it take the DoJ a year to investigate and decide not to charge Zimmerman?

And how does announcing they can’t prosecute right before the midterms help turn out the vote when their constituents want them to prosecute?

For political purposes it would be best to charge Zimmerman with something fairly soon. Then manipulate the process so when the inevitable happens, the charges are tossed by the courts, it happens about this time next year.

Meanwhile keep the racial tensions at a simmer for the next 16 months by having all Dems mention “Trayvon” as often as possible, with the MSM reporting.

The prosecution used this tactic in the trial. They repeated “f’n punks” and “these a$$holes” as many times as possible, at every opportunity, throughout the trial.

farsighted on July 19, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Notice how Obama’s entire blabbering, blathering speech is all about explaining why black children lie Trayvon and libfreeordie act like subhuman animals — and why you’re a racist if you disagree with their doing so.

Swap out “black” and “African-American” with “Aryan” and “German”, and you will see exactly who Obama and the entire racist Obama Party like libfreeordie think.

northdallasthirty on July 19, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Otherwise you just get Detroits. Where everybody “cared” so much but no one really cared enough to concern themselves with the realities of life.

rrpjr on July 19, 2013 at 3:59 PM

Detroit ?
That same place where sistahs lined up for obamamonaay ?
Did something happen to that city ?
;-) ;-)

burrata on July 19, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Y’all. Not. Ready.

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:20 PM

No, we just see though the bullshit excuses.

What’s the excuse for the weekly murder-fest in Chicago?

GarandFan on July 19, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Allah and Ed probably are holding off on posting Obama’s press conference about the Zimmerman verdict because they are negotiating new ad rates. Its going to be EPIC! libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Libfree is actually Larry Sinclair.

Akzed on July 19, 2013 at 4:05 PM

What’s the excuse for the weekly murder-fest in Chicago?

GarandFan on July 19, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Bush

burrata on July 19, 2013 at 4:05 PM

It’s inevitable that, as these ‘protesters’ accost and assault people, someone is going to fight back. It might happen more than once, in different places.

Only then, sadly, will police step in. But by then, it might be too late to put out the fuze Obama, Sharpton, Holder, and the media have lit.

You can’t unring a bell, and I think today Obama summoned the congregation.

Liam on July 19, 2013 at 4:09 PM

What’s the excuse for the weekly murder-fest in Chicago?
 
GarandFan on July 19, 2013 at 4:04 PM

 
Crackers
Honkeys
White people
“A very difficult history”.
 
From just now:
 

For Immediate Release
July 19, 2013
Remarks by the President on Trayvon Martin
 

…black folks do interpret the reasons for that in a historical context. They understand that some of the violence that takes place in poor black neighborhoods around the country is born out of a very violent past in this country, and that the poverty and dysfunction that we see in those communities can be traced to a very difficult history.

rogerb on July 19, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Smarter than Jeantel? Liam on July 19, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Now let’s not rag on Miss Jeantel because she’s fat, ugly, and stupid.

Akzed on July 19, 2013 at 4:11 PM

The vast majority of people in this country understand several things.

Obama would never have been elected if he were white.

George Zimmerman would never have been prosecuted if he had been black and/or Trayvon had been white.

Black parents, including Obama, would rather their children grow up to be Trayvon Martin or Rachel Jeantel than Condi Rice or Clarence Thomas.

And that, libfreeordie, is why you and your fellow race pimps will never get any traction here. We know full well that what you want is institutionalized racism and apartheid in favor of your master race.

northdallasthirty on July 19, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Haven’t felt this positively about Barack Obama since before the appointment of Tim Geithner.

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Are you always so easily influenced by a simple speech? Dictators throughout history have risen to power because idiots like you swoon over mere words.

blink on July 19, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Lying mouth-vomit is all Slavenowandie lives for. In the words of a great anti-slavery and anti-colonialism advocate, “He who makes a beast of himself gets rid of the pain of being a man.”

ebrown2 on July 19, 2013 at 4:12 PM

If racism were a crime (it’s not?) George Zimmerman would be acquitted.
But, this President is making this unfortunate incident racial, right alongside Al and Jesse and the usual suspect hustlers.

Everything in his statement is full of sympathy for the Martin family, and not even a nod to the notion that this was likely a devastating thing for the Zimmerman family. There is nothing in his mindset-based on this speech-that countenances the idea that George Zimmerman was acting in good faith with his neighbors, black, white, and hispanic.
The issues that plague the “black community” are in full view in his hometown, and he has been SILENT for 5 years, but he speaks up now.

This was not a speech of healing.

This was not a speech of unity.

This was not a speech to shore up our justice system.

This was pandering by a man who has no clue about what life was like for Trayvon Martin or any of the hundreds of poor black people who die in his hometown every year.

His power comes from creating and exploiting divisions, and this is a perfect example of doing just that.

questionmark on July 19, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Y’all are not ready for this much truth…

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:11 PM

You wouldn’t know the Truth if you were sucking its wang.

FOAD liveasaslaveanddie.

Solaratov on July 19, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Now let’s not rag on Miss Jeantel because she’s fat, ugly, and stupid.

Akzed on July 19, 2013 at 4:11 PM

She no fat.
She fluffy !

burrata on July 19, 2013 at 4:13 PM

You can’t unring a bell, and I think today Obama summoned the congregation. Liam on July 19, 2013 at 4:09 PM

They’re outnumbered 9-1.

Akzed on July 19, 2013 at 4:14 PM

canopfor on July 19, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Ladies and gentlemen, the President of the United States.

rogerb on July 19, 2013 at 3:57 PM

rogerb:;

Obama is going to start a Race War,if he doesn’t stop with his
Community Organizationaal Crock-Sh*t Distrubing Stirring!:O

canopfor on July 19, 2013 at 4:15 PM

And there are very few African-American men who haven’t had the experience of walking across the street and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars. That happens to me, at least before I was a senator. There are very few African-Americans who haven’t had the experience of getting on an elevator and a woman clutching her purse nervously and holding her breath until she had a chance to get off. That happens often.

And you know, I don’t want to exaggerate this, but those sets of experiences inform how the African-American community interprets what happened one night in Florida. And it’s inescapable for people to bring those experiences to bear.

This is paranoia feeding racial grievance as special.

Someone growing up and living in a big city — be they white, black, or hispanic — will often react this way around any “youth”, ot group of “youths” who, for example, looks like he might belong to a black, white, or hispanic gang.

On the south side of Chicago blacks react this way to black youths who look like they may belong to a gang.

Hell, you lock everything all of the time when you live in a big city, no matter who is around or not.

To suggest people react this way exclusively or disproportionately around African-American’s is at best special pleading and at worse race baiting.

Which is why HA’s resident race baiting troll loves it.

farsighted on July 19, 2013 at 4:16 PM

It’s unsurprising that his mindset – and yours – are nothing but perceived victimhood.

If *you* had a few moments of reflection and two brain cells to rub together, you *might* someday begin to ask *why* would people in their cars lock their doors like that – *why* might those women clutch their purses a bit tighter?

And then you might seek out some crime statistic data to see if your answer lies therein. Hint: it does.

You don’t have to go back 150 years, makeup crap about institutionalized slavery, champ – look to the black community’s behavior as a disproportionate statistical factor in crime, and *there* is your f*cking answer.

We’re speaking broadly, but quit blaming everyone else for their logical behavioral response to the black community’s atrocious behavior.

Midas on July 19, 2013 at 3:58 PM

Black leaders are rather Janus-faced about the subject:

“We have the power without changing another law, without going to Springfield, without going to the Senate or Congress, without going to the White House – we’ve got the power right now to stop killing each other,” he said…

There can be no excuse for the violence that has spread through urban areas, he said.

“This killing is not based upon poverty, it is based upon greed and violence and guns.”

http://infoweb.newsbank.com/iw-search/we/InfoWeb?p_action=doc&p_topdoc=1&p_docnum=1&p_sort=YMD_date:D&p_product=NewsBank&p_text_direct-0=document_id=%28%200EB42167B5EB3CB0%20%29&p_docid=0EB42167B5EB3CB0&p_theme=aggdocs&p_queryname=0EB42167B5EB3CB0&f_openurl=yes&p_nbid=U55Q49EBMTM3NDI0ODg1MC41MDYzMTk6MToxNToxMjguMjA2LjE3Ny4xOTA&&p_multi=CSTB

ebrown2 on July 19, 2013 at 4:16 PM

…without going to Springfield, without going to the Senate or Congress, without going to the White House – we’ve got the power right now to stop killing each other,” he said…
 
ebrown2 on July 19, 2013 at 4:16 PM

 
Interestingly, that’s one of my go-to choices to stop getting killed as well.

rogerb on July 19, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Interestingly, that’s one of my go-to choices to stop getting killed as well.

rogerb on July 19, 2013 at 4:18 PM

My first thought too.

TexasDan on July 19, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Don’t take any of this too seriously, though. Like I said yesterday, the SYG outcry is less about the particulars of the Zimmerman case and more about giving liberals something to rally around for the midterms when the DOJ inevitably decides not to prosecute Zimmerman. This is politics.

Exactamundo.

Accordingly, I’m off to play 9 holes and drink some Friday Frosties along the way.

Sacramento on July 19, 2013 at 4:19 PM

The REB, c/o canopfor on July 19, 2013 at 3:51 PM

There are very few African American men in this country who haven’t had the experience of being followed when they were shopping in a department store. That includes me. There are very few African American men who haven’t had the experience of walking across the street and hearing the locks click on the doors of cars. That happens to me — at least before I was a senator. There are very few African Americans who haven’t had the experience of getting on an elevator and a woman clutching her purse nervously and holding her breath until she had a chance to get off. That happens often.

In my own experience, it has more to do with appearance. If I see a kid with a hoodie on and up and their pants barely on, I’m going to lock that door and put my hand on my wallet no matter the color of that person.

slickwillie2001 on July 19, 2013 at 4:19 PM

We understand that some of the violence that takes place in poor black neighborhoods around the country is born out of a very violent past in this country, and that the poverty and dysfunction that we see in those communities can be traced to a very difficult history.

libfreeordie on July 19, 2013 at 3:18 PM

Whine…

Snivel…

Avoid responsibility…

Cry victim…

Rinse. Repeat. (until somebody feels sorry for your worthless azz)

Solaratov on July 19, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Also, want to take a moment to give AllahPundit props for his consistently fantastic posts of the last couple months.

TexasDan on July 19, 2013 at 4:20 PM

She no fat. She fluffy ! burrata on July 19, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Oh my goodness.

She and about 5 million of her sisters are tied for UglyStupidFat Ms. America.

She so fat, she don’t get a blood test, she get a Ragu test.

Akzed on July 19, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Anyone up for a talk-like-Rachel Jeantel day?

Only one rule, -no verbs or articles allowed.

slickwillie2001 on July 19, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Are conjunctions allowed.

RickB on July 19, 2013 at 4:20 PM

And most of the people locking doors and holding their breath are likely other African-Americans

questionmark on July 19, 2013 at 3:26 PM

That’s gonna leave a mark.

farsighted on July 19, 2013 at 4:22 PM

And no cursive.

Akzed on July 19, 2013 at 4:22 PM

The democrat party wants peoe to be uneducated like Jeantel or violent for no reason like Trayvon.
What The Party of Hate does not want is for people to try and make their communities better like Zimmerman.

The left says this Hispanic man caused everything because he got out of the car when a black teen aged was outside. The left assumes the ack teenager would get violent. This Hispanic getting out of the car didnt start anything , it was Trayvon punching the Hispanic man because Trayvon is a racist thug.

The Democrat Party likes racist thugs just like they have for over 200 years.

GardenGnome on July 19, 2013 at 4:23 PM

She so ugly, once I pinned a tail on her face.

Akzed on July 19, 2013 at 4:23 PM

If he didn’t have golfing to do…he’d show up next to Sharpton.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 3:21 PM

Priorities…lil barry haz dem.

Solaratov on July 19, 2013 at 4:24 PM

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