DOJ: Zimmerman can’t have his gun back just yet

posted at 12:11 pm on July 19, 2013 by Allahpundit

They’ve placed a hold on evidence from the state trial while they figure out whether there’s any federal charge they can bring to appease the left — something the DOJ’s had nearly a year and a half to decide.

Riddle me this: What’s the evidentiary value of the gun at this point? The feds aren’t charging him with murder. They might charge him either with a “hate crime” or some sort of civil-rights violation, but neither of those charges depends on ballistics. Zimmerman admits that he shot and killed Martin so they’ve got all the proof they need of the underlying act. The federal trial, if there is one, will revolve around his intent. What does the gun have to do with it?

George Zimmerman, who was acquitted of murder by a Florida court last week, will not immediately get back the gun he used to shoot unarmed 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, because the U.S. Justice Department requested a hold on evidence from his trial, a law enforcement official said on Thursday.

The hold is standard procedure and does not reveal whether the Justice Department plans to pursue a new prosecution of Zimmerman, 29, said the official, who would speak only on condition of anonymity…

Expectations that Zimmerman would get his 9mm pistol back helped to fuel anger among those Americans who thought had profiled Martin and should be punished for the teenager’s death last year. Zimmerman’s lawyers said he acted in self-defense during neighborhood watch duty when Martin attacked him.

It’s standard procedure to place a hold on evidence but it’s not standard procedure for that hold to generate news stories across multiple agencies. Was the DOJ responding to reporters’ inquiries in revealing this or did they announce it on their own initiative, as a complement to their new Zimmerman tip line, to reassure the left that they remain verrrry suspicious of Zimmerman no matter what a jury and their own federal police force say about his motives? Look at it this way: It’s not like he really needs a gun right now, right?

Via Breitbart, here’s Jesse Jackson playing racial-grievance mad libs on Tapper’s show yesterday, comparing Florida to an “apartheid state” because … I don’t know why. Per one analysis, Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law actually benefits black defendants disproportionately. “Apartheid” is being tossed out here, I think, just to fill in the blank of “Florida justice is worse than ______.” (I wrote “the Holocaust” on my own mad libs sheet.) As a rejoinder, read this Heather MacDonald piece at the Corner on the comparative frequency of intraracial versus interracial violence; if Jackson’s desperate to make an apartheid argument, you’d think he’d zero in on Chicago, where whites are relatively safe and blacks are under siege. Read this new Gallup poll too, which doesn’t speak to violence but rather to perceptions of social discrimination more broadly in hiring and housing. Twenty years ago, blacks were nearly evenly split on whether racial disparities in those areas were due to racism or “something else.” Today, the split is 37/60. Among young black adults, it’s 30/68. Doesn’t matter what the numbers say, though, or how steadily race relations are improving, “progress” requires that there be zero progress so that it retains its motive force. That’s how you get “apartheid” mad libs here.


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Too bad the FL police didn’t tell gunHolder to fly a broom.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 12:11 PM

FL s/b so lucky so as to be boycotted by the likes of Jachson.

Btw, what language does Jackson speak? Jeantelean?

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Jackson

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 12:13 PM

The autostart videos are so painfully annoying. Can they please be turned off already. Hand them over to Holder, for crying out loud. People complain about them all the time on HA.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Riddle me this: What’s the evidentiary value of the gun at this point?

Nothing to do with Zimmerman, except:

1. The feed on carrion, as obama/Holder always do, and

2. They’ll use this gun as exhibit I in advocating against guns in general and against “stand your ground” in specific.

All will fail. The “stand your ground” is gaining in strength since the Zimmerman case.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Riddle me this: What’s the evidentiary value of the gun at this point? The feds aren’t charging him with murder. They might charge him either with a “hate crime” or some sort of civil-rights violation, but neither of those charges depends on ballistics. Zimmerman admits that he shot and killed Martin so they’ve got all the proof they need of the underlying act. The federal trial, if there is one, will revolve around his intent. What does the gun have to do with it?

Because Eric Holder is an expert at deciding which Hispanics can have guns (Fast N Furious, anyone?) and which cannot (self-defending shooters of Skittle-eating black punks).

Bitter Clinger on July 19, 2013 at 12:17 PM

What does the gun have to do with it?

You can only have a weapon if your lords deem you worthy enough. GZ isn’t worthy at this point, for some reason, and how dare you, AP, question your betters.

rbj on July 19, 2013 at 12:17 PM

Riddle me this: What’s the evidentiary value of the gun at this point?

The gun will be interrogated mercilessly until it turns on Zimmerman.

cozmo on July 19, 2013 at 12:17 PM

The autostart videos are so painfully annoying. Can they please be turned off already. Hand them over to Holder, for crying out loud. People complain about them all the time on HA.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 12:14 PM

Except for those of us who use Firefox with the Adblocker Plus add-on.

Del Dolemonte on July 19, 2013 at 12:18 PM

“Apartheid Mad Libs” is brilliant!

rockmom on July 19, 2013 at 12:19 PM

This is classic Holder distraction/appeasement.

The DOJ has NO evidentiary need for the gun – Holder just wants to piss off the pro-gun folks.

It would be nice though if the NRA stepped in on this issued and funded a legal challenge for Zimmerman to be given his gun back NOW. That would have the added benefit of causing elevated blood pressure in various parts of the SCOAMF administration.

PolAgnostic on July 19, 2013 at 12:20 PM

I want to see Zimmmerman put that gun up for auction on Ebay, and then see how high the bids would go. That’d put the leftoids panties in a knot!!!

(Come on, you know you’d bid on it!!!)

Tom Servo on July 19, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Riddle me this: What’s the evidentiary value of the gun at this point?

There’s no evidentiary value of any of it, since the trial that just ended already looked at all that evidence.

And, of course, even less for the gun, since it’s been established already that Zimmerman did shoot Trayvon, and never claimed otherwise.

There Goes the Neighborhood on July 19, 2013 at 12:22 PM

Riddle me this: What’s the evidentiary value of the gun at this point?

Well, Duh! The gun made Zimmerman hate.

Rovin on July 19, 2013 at 12:23 PM

This is why every owner of firearms for self defense needs to own more than one gun.

So when “the law” confiscates your property to use as evidence in a case, you still have one with which to defend yourself, just in case you’re the victim of another crime while the “authorities” are taking their time doing their jobs.

UltimateBob on July 19, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Autoplay.

portlandon on July 19, 2013 at 12:24 PM

David Gregory will get another special D.C. dispensation to display the gun on Meet the Press.

Curtiss on July 19, 2013 at 12:24 PM

I want to see Zimmmerman put that gun up for auction on Ebay, and then see how high the bids would go. That’d put the leftoids panties in a knot!!!

(Come on, you know you’d bid on it!!!)

Tom Servo on July 19, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Depends…. what kind of gun was it?

UltimateBob on July 19, 2013 at 12:25 PM

“As the heat keeps rising on this crisis”

What a maroon.

Jesse could never top that one … until he calls Florida an “apartheid state about a minute later.

There Goes the Neighborhood on July 19, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Very cynical opinion ahead. It’s so those who might get a chance for “justice” will know GZ is unarmed.

GiantOrb on July 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM

(I wrote “the Holocaust” on my own mad libs sheet.)

Silly AP, Holocaust is for when someone expresses the slightest disapproval of homosexual acts or when describing the plight of poor, persecuted Hamas vs. Israel. Anything to do with African-Americans is of course Apartheid or Jim Crow.

Sockpuppet Politic on July 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM

DOJ needs to make sure the evidence disappears into Obama’s vault where he keeps all his secrets or Zimmerman will wipe out NBC and their big daddy GE and Soros.

erp on July 19, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Is it illegal to buy a handgun and give it to someone else in Florida? Just wondering…

gatorboy on July 19, 2013 at 12:28 PM

The autostart videos are so painfully annoying. Can they please be turned off already. Hand them over to Holder, for crying out loud. People complain about them all the time on HA.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 12:14 PM

+1

Except for those of us who use Firefox with the Adblocker Plus add-on.

Del Dolemonte on July 19, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Yes, tech-savvy commenters can customize their software, etc. to deal with annoyances like this.

However, tech-savvy bloggers at a leading conservative site should be able to produce a user-product that wouldn’t require said customization (hint, hint)….

cs89 on July 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM

George needs to heed Sheriff Joe’s advice. Shotgun, shotgun, shotgun. I suspect the next attempts on his life will come from a bit further away than the last one.

a capella on July 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM

“Florida justice is worse than ______.”

The chicken at Tresky’s Restaurant.

PackerBronco on July 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM

Tom Servo on July 19, 2013 at 12:21 PM

Indeed. He should fight them to get it, pronto. Then he should sell it to the highest bidder.

Guns and Capitalism, what will drive the leftists into frenzies…

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 12:31 PM

*user-friendly, that is…

cs89 on July 19, 2013 at 12:31 PM

cs89 on July 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM

I know about all which stops the crap. Such a site should accommodate or explain such annoyances.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 12:32 PM

For myriad of reasons not all will/can run Firefox.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Or maybe they are letting those agitated people out there who want to kill Zimmerman that he will not be armed so don’t worry about him shooting at you.

Blue Collar Todd on July 19, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Ok, for all those out there who wanted / still want a CIVIL RIGHTS law suit – HERE YA GO!

George Zimmerman is an American Citizen who was just found to be INNOCENT in a court of law by a jury. According to the law, he has committed not crime, and he gets to go back into the world with nothing bad on his record, as this had never happened. YET, Eric Holder and the DOJ are PUNISHING an INNOCENT citizen of the United States, stripping him of his Constitutional RIGHT to bear arms simply because Holder, Sharpton, J. Jackson, the NAACP, and countelss number of other citizens don’t like the legally correct decision made by the jury!

Like it or not, George Zimmerman was found NOT GUILTY. Just because Holder does not like it does not give him the right to deny him his Constitutional Right! He can’t even use the excuse that there is an on-going investigation. So what? Until Holder presses charges against Zimmerman, the DOJ does not have the right to confiscate any weapon or deny his right to have his weapon! At THIS moment, until the moment the DOJ presses charges against him, Zimmerman is a free, law-abiding citizen who has committed NO crime – is not even charged with a crime!

Zimmermans lawyers need to file both a ‘Hate Crime’ and a Civil Rights Violation against Eric Holder and the DOJ, who were using tax dollars to sponsor/support protests for Zimmerman leading up to the trail!

easyt65 on July 19, 2013 at 12:33 PM

The hold is standard procedure … said the official, who would speak only on condition of anonymity…

And it is “standard procedure” to have an anonymous source leak that something the government is doing is just (yawn) “standard procedure”.

I guess the source must leak this information anonymously because it must be against the law to leak information about “standard procedures”.

More Orwellian doubletalk from Comrade O’s Orwellian regime.

farsighted on July 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM

The autostart videos are so painfully annoying. Can they please be turned off already. Hand them over to Holder, for crying out loud. People complain about them all the time on HA.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 12:14 PM

In this case (as is often the case), it’s the provider of the video that made it AutoPlay, not HA.

Steve Eggleston on July 19, 2013 at 12:34 PM

Autoplay is a bad thing.

Jesse Jackson on autoplay is unforgivable.

trigon on July 19, 2013 at 12:35 PM

Is it illegal to buy a handgun and give it to someone else in Florida? Just wondering…

gatorboy on July 19, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Straw purchases are illegal. Purchase of a new handgun requires your signed promise not to do that which can be used against you if you are charged.

a capella on July 19, 2013 at 12:35 PM

I’m sure he’s got a new one by now.

RadClown on July 19, 2013 at 12:36 PM

The, “Nanny, nanny, boo, boo” response of this administration to an issue, any issue is the firebrand of their smart power. But anymore it is so commonplace there really is nothing new to see here.
I’m not sure but I think Jesse Jackson may have said just that as well in the above autoplay. Jury’s still out on that one.

onomo on July 19, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Holder is giving Zimmerman a hard time, and GZ may never see that gun again. Except…

When the gun banners win, they’ll create a Museum for Infamous Guns, to justify their ban. You know — those that killed Lincoln and Garfield, among others.

Zimmerman’s will be labeled, “This is the gun that killed Saint Trayvon, Civil Rights Martyr.”

Liam on July 19, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Depends…. what kind of gun was it?

UltimateBob on July 19, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Kal-Tec, I believe. A compact.

a capella on July 19, 2013 at 12:39 PM

The Republicans are considering committing political suicide by signing onto Rubio/Schmuer’s amnesty to gain a slight advantage with Hispanics.

Yet in the Zimmerman case Obama and the Democrats are trying to lynch an innocent Hispanic man and the Republicans are mute.

Perhaps you idiots leading the Republican party pointing how the racial angle Obama is advancing might be in your interest? And you can do so without sacrificing your supposed principles as you are about to do with Amnesty.

I’d like to see something come out of the House along the lines of the “Neighborhood Watch Protection Act”. Generally something to make it clear members of the neighborhood watch have a riot to walk their neighborhoods free of federal oversight. Then demagogue the hell out of Obama as an anti-Hispanic racist when he opposes it.

Force Obama and the Democrats to make their racial angle fully obvious even to the LIVs.

18-1 on July 19, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Liam on July 19, 2013 at 12:37 PM

A good lawyer should fight to get it back, pro bono.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 12:40 PM

The Feds aren’t returning the gun because they don’t have it anymore. Holder sent it to Mexico and lost track of it…

joejm65 on July 19, 2013 at 12:40 PM

Zimmerman’s lawyers said he acted in self-defense during neighborhood watch duty when Martin attacked him.

Not only Zimmerman’s lawyers, but a jury of six women who listened to all the available evidence and acquitted him.

Steve Z on July 19, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Holder: “A man doesn’t need a gun while he’s being lynched.”

faraway on July 19, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Jesse Jackson playing racial-grievance mad libs on Tapper’s show yesterday, comparing Florida to an “apartheid state” because … I don’t know why.

I know why. Jesse’s target demographic is stupid enough, ignorant enough, and uninformed enough to believe it.

The ones that know it’s ridiculous don’t care. They understand the signal. It’s a friggin’ war cry. It’s a call-to-arms.

Jesse knows his target demographic.

farsighted on July 19, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Liam on July 19, 2013 at 12:37 PM

A good lawyer should fight to get it back, pro bono.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 12:40 PM

I agree. Or, better, FL tells Holder to pound sand and obey its own laws. If Holder wants it that bad, let him get an injunction from a Federal judge to stop it. If he can.

Liam on July 19, 2013 at 12:43 PM

gotta look good in front of jesse and al

cmsinaz on July 19, 2013 at 12:43 PM

What’s the evidentiary value of the gun at this point?

Zilch, Allah.

It’s only value is symbolic.

ted c on July 19, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Zimmerman’s lawyers The jury said he acted in self-defense during neighborhood watch duty when Martin attacked him.

FIFY

The DOJ has NO evidentiary need for the gun – Holder just wants to piss off the pro-gun folks.

PolAgnostic on July 19, 2013 at 12:20 PM

This ^^^ Though I would include Zimmerman in there, too.

It would be nice though if the NRA stepped in on this issued and funded a legal challenge for Zimmerman to be given his gun back NOW.

PolAgnostic on July 19, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Agree. Or maybe the JPFO? What with his last name, and all.*
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* Yes, that’s a reference to the first media reports about him being so wrong.

GWB on July 19, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Holder:

Returning the gun owned by an acquitted American?

No. Sirree. Bob.

Providing guns for drug cartels in Mexico?

You. Betcha.

It’s an Obama World.

Resist We Much on July 19, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Depends…. what kind of gun was it?

UltimateBob on July 19, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Kal-Tec, I believe. A compact.

a capella on July 19, 2013 at 12:39 PM

A thug-poppin’ gun, that’s what counts. But seriously, Zimmerman could buy 10 guns with what he could make off that one.

Tom Servo on July 19, 2013 at 12:45 PM

They’re going to water board the gun to get it to confess.

TfromV on July 19, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Btw, what language does Jackson speak? Jeantelean?

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 12:13 PM

http://twitchy.com/2013/07/18/sisterhood-of-the-traveling-ass-hillary-clinton-is-no-ways-tired-of-offensive-fake-accent/

davidk on July 19, 2013 at 12:46 PM

What really happened to Zimmerman’s gun

NoFanofLibs on July 19, 2013 at 12:47 PM

I’m surprised there isn’t yet a call to suspend or revoke Zimmerman’s carry permit until DoJ ‘finishes’ its investigation.

Liam on July 19, 2013 at 12:47 PM

Except for those of us who use Firefox with the Adblocker Plus add-on.

Del Dolemonte on July 19, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Works with Chrome, also…

JohnGalt23 on July 19, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Except for those of us who use Firefox with the Adblocker Plus add-on.

Del Dolemonte on July 19, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Yes, tech-savvy commenters can customize their software, etc. to deal with annoyances like this.

However, tech-savvy bloggers at a leading conservative site should be able to produce a user-product that wouldn’t require said customization (hint, hint)….

cs89 on July 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM

lol, I am as far away from tech-savvy as one can be. Sill running Windoze XP, for cripes sake. But I doubt this is a HA issue; the problem lies in the original source of the video.

Del Dolemonte on July 19, 2013 at 12:50 PM

As a rejoinder, read this Heather MacDonald piece at the Corner on the comparative frequency of intraracial versus interracial violence; if Jackson’s desperate to make an apartheid argument, you’d think he’d zero in on Chicago, where whites are relatively safe and blacks are under siege. Read this new Gallup poll too…

There you go pointing out facts again.

As the Zimmerman trial has shown, the facts don’t matter. Repeating the lies, the slogans, the propaganda, and the misinformation over and over again is what matters.

To my great disappointment, I learned today it even works on Krauthammer. He is still repeating and spreading leftist disinformation about Zimmerman “ignoring the dispatcher’s advice not to follow Martin.”.

farsighted on July 19, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Does this mean that Holder will be personally, maybe criminally, liable if Zimmerman or his family is killed? They have no other way to defend themselves. There have been death threats you know. They were even in the newspaper.

faraway on July 19, 2013 at 12:50 PM

Except for those of us who use Firefox with the Adblocker Plus add-on.

Del Dolemonte on July 19, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Works with Chrome, also…

JohnGalt23 on July 19, 2013 at 12:49 PM

Refuse to use Chrome as it is a Google product. In fact, I call Google itself the “Democrat Search Engine” because they are so in bed with Dear Leader you can’t tell them apart!

Del Dolemonte on July 19, 2013 at 12:51 PM

If the Sanford Police Chief had any guts, he’d ask Holder “How long do you want this evidence held?”

Holder will refuse to answer – he can’t say ‘Until January 2017″. Once Holder refuses to answer, the Chief should say “Have a nice day!” Then give the gun back to Zimmerman.

As for Shakedown Jackson, when is the public finally going to tell that POS to crawl off into a hole for the betterment of society.

Now that would be “Social Justice”!

GarandFan on July 19, 2013 at 12:52 PM

The is no excuse for Eric Hold-Over whatsoever. Wanted to get that out there first.

If this were not the Zimmerman case… if I’m prosecuting the case, I want the gun to introduce into evidence, as they did in the State trial. Technically, it’s not required but I can’t imagine there’s ever been a criminal case tried where the weapon used, if available, wasn’t introduced into evidence. They would want it and it’s perfectly normal.

Of course, trying him at all would be a tragedy into travesty as Mr. West so eloquently pointed out.

IndieDogg on July 19, 2013 at 12:52 PM

I have Firefox and Ad Block+ It does not stop these damn autostart videos. Maybe a $100 fine donated to a conservative 501c3 would stop it.

Isn’t Georges wife still under felony indictment? If so no gun in household. If not George can buy a new handgun from a fellow Florida resident by showing his Florida Drivers License. No need to give him one. But maybe sell him a few at reduced cost.

meci on July 19, 2013 at 12:53 PM

What’s love gun got to do
got to do with it

Marcola on July 19, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Kennedy @KennedyNation

Eric Holder won’t give George Zimmerman his gun back because he’s already sent it to Mexico. And lost track of it.

via twitchy

lol

cmsinaz on July 19, 2013 at 12:53 PM

Eric’s gonna throw George’s gun down the storm drain and make him have to get it out. This is how Eric proves he’s one of the cool kids, by doing stuff like that there.

Akzed on July 19, 2013 at 12:53 PM

“Standard procedure” for what? Zimmerman was found not guilty of the charges lobbed against him.

Yes, the gun was used to kill Martin. No one denies that. It was used in self defense.

Yes, Martin was “profiled” as a potential “mischief maker” based on his suspicious and erratic behavior that fateful night. Martin, however, attacked Zimmerman.

Holder is using this event to promote racial discord and to attack the Second Amendment.

While Holder is playing his political games, does that mean that Zimmerman cannot purchase another weapon for self-protection? Are Zimmerman’s civil rights being held in abeyance while the Just-Us Brothers stir up another grievance?

I posted the following last evening, a point made by a freeper:

The DOJ is out of control. It will not allow the Sanford PD to release Zimmerman’s gun.

Does Holder understand the law at all?
This is illegal under Federal Law, see Walters v. Wolf, 660 F. 3d 307 – Court of Appeals, 8th Circuit 2011 – No. 10-3597. This will be yet another 42 USC 1983 violation against the City of Sanford. Unbelieveable. These must really be the last days of our nation. No one cares about law or the Constitution anymore.

onlineanalyst on July 18, 2013 at 9:53 PM

onlineanalyst on July 19, 2013 at 12:54 PM

This administration has already been proven to use the IRS, ATF, FBI, and even the DHS to target, intimidate, & punish/abuse law-abiding citizens who Obama has deemed to be his ‘enemies’ and a threat to his re-election.

Now we are seeing the administration AGAIN targeting a law-abiding citizen through the abuse of power by Eric Holder & the DOJ engaging in this witch hunt and racist-speech tour to the NAACP and others.

The jury found Zimmerman innocent. The FBI said they found nothing to substantiate the prosecution’s claims. An even higher burden of proof is going to be required by Holder to prosecute Zimmerman on Civil Rights charges, and Holder KNOWS that this evidence is just not out there. They are so desperate to go after this lone citizen that they have set up a web page BEGGIG anyone to provide ANYTHING against Zimmerman they can use to put him in jail.

It is FRIGHTENING, or should be, to EVERY American citizen to see the full weight of the Government being applied against 1 INNOCENT (according to the jury) American citizen. It is FRIGHTENING, or should be, especially considering what we have learned in the last 2 months, that the IRS violated the law to target Obama’s enemies, that they gave Romney’s personal documents to Obama’s campaign manager who used them to attack Romney during the campaign, and the head of the NSA admitted that they and the DOJ have conducted ILLEGAL wwire taps and data-mining operations against American citizens! This administration has fundamentally transformed this nation, as Obama promised, into some Socialist Police State.

Remember how in the middle of the night Clinton’s Atty General raided a home and at gun point snatched a child from the home? Remember how that same Atty General used the military to raid a compound, resulting in the building burning down and killing everyone inside? Remember Eric holder hiding documents in order to get a Pardon for members of a terrorist group in jail for perpetrating bombings that killed Americans? Remember Obama giving thousands of weapons to Drug cartel Members while attempting to strip the right to bear arms from law-abiding citizens? Remember the Obama-protecting media going after Joe-the-Plummer after he told Obama he did not agree with his view of ‘share-the-wealth’? Remember the whistle blower who testified that Holder ordered the DOJ to ignore cases of reverse discrmination and agressively go after discrimination cases?

Zimmermn has found himself squarely on the Obama administration’s ‘enemies’ list, & the Federal govt is once again targeting citizens. Holder knows he has nothing, but he is not allowing a tragedy go to waste, stoking the fires of racism and distrust in the law!

easyt65 on July 19, 2013 at 12:54 PM

NoFanofLibs on July 19, 2013 at 12:47 PM

sorry about that

cmsinaz on July 19, 2013 at 12:54 PM

This is Detroit today – after 51 years of ‘Progressive’ and 39 years of ‘black rule.’

The Destruction of Detroit (Photo Essay)

No ‘apartheid’ there, Jesse.

Resist We Much on July 19, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Jesse knows his target demographic.

farsighted on July 19, 2013 at 12:43 PM

He, Sharpton, obama and Holder and poverty pimps. Period.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 12:56 PM

So is Holder the Sanford police chief’s boss? Give George his gun back, and tell Holder that if he wants it, go take it away from him. If he can be located.

Akzed on July 19, 2013 at 12:56 PM

If I was a gun manufacturer, I’d very publicly sell GZ a new weapon for $1. I can’t believe the NRA ILA hasn’t already presented him one with commemorative engraving.

You can’t make a straw purchase as noted by a commenter above, but I think you can buy a gun and give it as a gift to someone so long as they are not legally prohibited from owning firearms. Right?

TexasDan on July 19, 2013 at 12:56 PM

But I doubt this is a HA issue; the problem lies in the original source of the video.

Del Dolemonte on July 19, 2013 at 12:50 PM

The reason is that whoever enters the links at HA doesn’t know how to ensure that the video link includes ‘&autoplay=0′.

Allah, please crack some heads around there until discipline is restored.

faraway on July 19, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Refuse to use Chrome as it is a Google product. In fact, I call Google itself the “Democrat Search Engine” because they are so in bed with Dear Leader you can’t tell them apart!

Del Dolemonte on July 19, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Indeed, indeed.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 12:57 PM

I agree with Obama,Holder, Sharpton and Jackson; Trayvon had a duty to retreat. If he had run home, none of this would have happened.

barnone on July 19, 2013 at 12:57 PM

I agree with Obama,Holder, Sharpton and Jackson; Trayvon had a duty to retreat. If he had run home, none of this would have happened.

barnone on July 19, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Or, if he had a shotgun, he could have fired it into the air.

Liam on July 19, 2013 at 1:00 PM

Very cynical opinion ahead. It’s so those who might get a chance for “justice” will know GZ is unarmed.

GiantOrb on July 19, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Not bloody likely.

There is no reason that GZ cannot go out and buy another gun. Since he’s not guilty of any felony, has no restraining orders, etc., he can certainly pass the NICS background check.

I’d bet money that he’s already replaced his KelTec with a nice Sig auto – and probably added a nice AR and a good shotgun as well.

Solaratov on July 19, 2013 at 1:02 PM

It would be nice though if the NRA stepped in on this issued and funded a legal challenge for Zimmerman to be given his gun back NOW.

PolAgnostic on July 19, 2013 at 12:20 PM

I’d like to see NRA donate an “assault rifle” to Zimmerman. Because he may need it to protect himself and his family, including his elderly parents. Throw in a Joe Biden signature shotgun, too.

But I doubt it will happen. The PTB on the right have been terrified to come out in support of Zimmerman since March of 2012. Recent tepid support is due to the not guilty verdict and the foaming at the mouth rage coming from the left.

farsighted on July 19, 2013 at 1:03 PM

As a rejoinder, read this Heather MacDonald piece at the Corner on the comparative frequency of intraracial versus interracial violence; … Doesn’t matter what the numbers say, though, or how steadily race relations are improving, “progress” requires that there be zero progress so that it retains its motive force.

That’s how you get every piece of irrational ideologically-biased legislation introduced in or passed by Congress (and the states and cities as well) by both parties.

AesopFan on July 19, 2013 at 1:04 PM

18-1 on July 19, 2013 at 12:39 PM

GET THE WORD OUT – SCREAM IT FROM THE ROOF TOPS – USE IT IN EVERY LETTER TO THE EDITOR, EVERY BLOG POST – EVERY CONVERSATION….

HOLDER & OBAMA ARE WAGING A ‘WAR ON LATINOS’

easyt65 on July 19, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Skittles that he didn’t even steal from the 7-11, that he legitimately bought!~Bernie de la Rionda

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3043321/posts

davidk on July 19, 2013 at 1:05 PM

The autostart videos are so painfully annoying. Can they please be turned off already.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 12:14 PM

..echo your sentiments, my brother! It is the evil, capitalistic TownHall who has taken over HA; somewhere there’s an evil, leering Huge Hugh-witless laughing maniacally at each hit count we ring up.

(Or should I resume my meds?)

The War Planner on July 19, 2013 at 1:06 PM

GZ needs the gun now more than ever.
Should be a violation of his civil rights toprevent him from getting it back.

Of course the Dems are afraid he might use to hurt an “innocent” member of the black lynch mobs that are trying to get him.
God forbid he should be allowed to defend himself a second time from a black attacker trying to kill him….

dentarthurdent on July 19, 2013 at 1:07 PM

This is Detroit today – after 51 years of ‘Progressive’ and 39 years of ‘black rule.’

The Destruction of Detroit (Photo Essay)

No ‘apartheid’ there, Jesse.

Resist We Much on July 19, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Are you claiming that all of those pictures are from Detroit?

I have a pretty good idea that at least one of them isn’t.

The big strange piece of artwork on a hill is from eastern Europe.

cozmo on July 19, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Zimmerman should tell Holder to donate it to Obama’s presidential library.

Christien on July 19, 2013 at 1:08 PM

HOLDER & OBAMA ARE WAGING A ‘WAR ON LATINOS’

easyt65 on July 19, 2013 at 1:05 PM

Not all Latinos, and certainly not members of the Mexican cartels to which they’re quite glad to provide guns to.

TXUS on July 19, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Zimmerman’s lawyers said he acted in self-defense during neighborhood watch duty when Martin attacked him.

Reuters gets it wrong, again.

Zimmerman was NOT on “neighborhood watch duty” when Martin attacked him. He was on his way to grocery shop at Target when he saw a suspicious Martin, made an NEN phone call, and the NEN dispatcher started asking him questions he could only answer if he kept Martin in sight.

And Zimmerman’s lawyers would never get those facts wrong.

farsighted on July 19, 2013 at 1:10 PM

I don’t know what makes me more angry–the racist black bomb throwers who weep crocodile tears about a murderous drug-addicted thug being rightfully blown away for a savage attack or annoying Youtube ads which suddenly start when I enter the thread. If these ads continue on other threads, I’m through with Hot Air. Really pyssed off!!!!

MaiDee on July 19, 2013 at 1:12 PM

They’ve placed a hold on evidence from the state trial while they figure out whether there’s any federal charge they can bring to appease the left —

Is there a lawyer here? Can they do this? Zimmerman was acquited. He’s a free man, like any other citizen. He deserves his property back. If they want to bring additional charges, do it. Then you can discuss the gun. But he needs to get his gun back. This is the same BS legal limbo in which they held Gibson Guitar.

rrpjr on July 19, 2013 at 1:13 PM

“OBAMA / Holder Waging ‘War On Latinos’

“Democrats Target Hispanic American in ‘War on Latinos’

Obama/Holder Stoke Division, Racism, Hatred between Blacks & Hispanics in ‘War on Latinos’

Obama Administration / DOJ Ignore FBI Investigation Results while Targeting Zimmerman in Their ‘War on Latinos’

“Democrats / Obama Administration to Welcome Illegal Across Border as ‘War On Latinos’ Rages”

… “House Committee Now Focu On Number of Hispanic Targeted By IRS during ‘War on Latinos’

LOL! If the GOP don’t have the testicular fortitude to push this WE NEED TO!

easyt65 on July 19, 2013 at 1:13 PM

(Or should I resume my meds?)</strong>
The War Planner on July 19, 2013 at 1:06 PM

No, just carry on, bro.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 1:15 PM

TXUS on July 19, 2013 at 1:09 PM

Taking a page from the Obama / Liberal playbook – doesn’t matter if it is not ALL Latinos. GOP aren’t waging a ‘war on women’, but the Libs are claiming it. And as they know, people are sheep – if you say it enough people will believe it & begin hammering Libtards & the Obama administration for it! LOL…

easyt65 on July 19, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Messed that one up – where are them meds? :)

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 1:16 PM

Well,

According to the gun control folks fools, the GUN is responsible for Martin’s death, not Zimmerman.

Remember…it is “gun control” so using LiberalLogic(tm), we must conclude that Zimmerman’s gun was at fault, not Zimmerman.

Therefore, Zimmerman is innocent because his GUN decided to go off at Martin. All by itself. To protect its owner, George Zimmerman.

I’m guessing since the firearm in question was black, it is black-on-black crime then and this whole thing should have just faded away, since, well…Chicago

Zimmerman is going to have more firearms and supplies (ammo, etc.) than he’ll know what to do with, given what I’ve seen lately from various “gun groups” online. He may need them, to do a New York Reload, since there are so many people racists out there, calling for his death.

ProfShadow on July 19, 2013 at 1:17 PM

(Or should I resume my meds?)
The War Planner on July 19, 2013 at 1:06 PM

No, just carry on, bro.

Schadenfreude on July 19, 2013 at 1:15 PM

Med limits…

http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/535624_208842092587747_774072070_n.jpg

Liam on July 19, 2013 at 1:17 PM

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