Muslim Brotherhood to EU: We’re ready to talk with interim gov’t

posted at 12:41 pm on July 18, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Is this a blink, or just a PR ploy?  The Muslim Brotherhood asked the EU to structure a framework for talks with the interim government, although without backing down from its demand to restore Mohamed Morsi as President:

The Muslim Brotherhood said on Thursday it had proposed through an EU go-between a framework for talks to resolve Egypt’s political crisis, its first formal announcement of an offer for negotiations since President Mohamed Mursi was toppled.

Brotherhood official Gehad el-Haddad, who represented the movement in previous EU-facilitated talks, told Reuters the proposal had been made to envoy Bernardino Leon before a visit on Wednesday by EU foreign affairs chief Catherine Ashton.

Leon confirmed he had offered the European Union’s “good offices” to help resolve the crisis, although he said the term “mediator” exaggerated the role.

The proposal, as described by Haddad, was still in its early stages. He did not give details, described it as only a “framework” for opening a channel of dialogue, and insisted on the Brotherhood’s firm demand that the July 3 “coup” that brought down Mursi be reversed.

Ashton met with the Brotherhood on her visit to Egypt, along with the interim government.  US envoy William Burns pointedly avoided any official contact with the deposed party.  That left the Brotherhood with only the EU to broker talks, a development that may impact American influence down the road but which probably provides a certain relief for the White House now, after its embarrassing track record on Egypt over the last two years.

This could just be a PR stunt for domestic consumption, but even a PR stunt shows that the Brotherhood’s position is weak.  Their counterprotests have done nothing to move the rest of the nation into outrage over the coup, and some of their own protests have stoked anti-MB outrage even further. The move by the military has at least the acquiescence of most Egyptians, if not the approval.  The Muslim Brotherhood needs an entree back into the political mix in order to argue for their legitimacy after the coup.  Of course, they could have chosen to participate in the interim government, which offered them Cabinet positions, but they could hardly have continued to argue against the coup while legitimizing it with their participation.

In the basis of principle, there’s not much to discuss in an EU-brokered forum.  The question for the Brotherhood is whether they will continue to stand on principle and get marginalized, or start acting pragmatically by ditching the unpopular Morsi and starting over again on democracy with the rest of the country by accepting a greater degree of pluralism. Until they make that decision, talks are going to be pointless.


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Hey, MB, go pound sand.

Bitter Clinger on July 18, 2013 at 12:52 PM

If the EU had any sense, they’d tell the MB:

“So what? You had over a year to make things right, and you blew it. Get a clue, you are not wanted. And stop bothering us with trifles. We have problems of our own.”

coldwarrior on July 18, 2013 at 12:54 PM

This could just be a PR stunt for domestic consumption, but even a PR stunt shows that the Brotherhood’s position is weak. Their counterprotests have done nothing to move the rest of the nation into outrage over the coup, and some of their own protests have stoked anti-MB outrage even further.

This. They spent the last week trying to drum up support for a counter-revolution and other than their hardcore supporters, they seemed unable to turn anyone out. The military is clearly in the driver’s seat right now.

The MB is going to play along, because otherwise they will end up in a worse position than they were in before the Arab Spring started.

Doomberg on July 18, 2013 at 12:55 PM

The MB’s version of democracy is “One Man, One Vote, One Time.”

Tom Servo on July 18, 2013 at 12:56 PM

…start acting pragmatically by ditching the unpopular Morsi and starting over again on democracy with the rest of the country by accepting a greater degree of pluralism.

That is an awesomely funny little passage there.

The MB’s goal…total goal…come hell or high water, is to build the Caliphate…and pluralism ain’t one of their campaign planks, never was, never will be.

They are rabid Islamists. Taliban in Armani suits. Their doctrine is, was and will remain…our way or the…well..you die, apostate or infidel.

Pragmatic?

Not in their lexicon. They proved that over the past year in Cairo.

coldwarrior on July 18, 2013 at 12:58 PM

Why should the Army undermine the new government by negotiating anything with the MB? They marginalized themselves. All they have to offer is obstruction and violence.

KW64 on July 18, 2013 at 1:01 PM

Thanks anyway, please go away. But of course the EU will whine at the new Egyptian government. If the current Egyptian government is smart, they will respond with, “Talking with the Muslim Brotherhood is not in the best interests of the Egyptian people.”

dogsoldier on July 18, 2013 at 1:01 PM

I see they want a Hudna so they can regroup.

Egfrow on July 18, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Maybe the Muzzie BroHood can have Eric Cantor lead a “BECOME EGYPT” rally for them?

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/18/House-Leaders-to-Educate-America-About-Immigration

House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-VA) will lead a tour of House leaders next week aimed at educating Americans, and each other, about the history and importance of immigration to the United States. The tour, dubbed the “Become America” tour, will feature events and speeches aimed at overcoming opposition to the passage of comprehensive immigration reform, which has stumbled amidst opposition from conservatives.

“The lawmakers will attend events on Ellis Island and at the Museum of Jewish Heritage and the African Burial Ground National Monument, according to an itinerary of the trip,” Politico reported late Wednesday evening. “Leaders will speak at a naturalization ceremony, and the group will also have a breakfast meeting at Gracie Mansion with New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a key advocate of immigration reform.”

In 2009, Cantor led a “listening tour” across the nation, bringing Republican leaders to meet with voters to discuss how the party could improve its policies and its political fortunes. The “Become America” tour, by contrast, will be less about listening to voters and more about educating them, since Republican leaders are convinced that the “nativist” faction within their party is the reason they cannot pass immigration reform.

The trip is being coordinated by the non-profit Faith & Politics Institute, and will include members of both parties, such as Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-IL), a persistent advocate of amnesty for illegal immigrants. In April, Guiterrez told a wealthy audience in Chicago that they owed it to the people who “wash the dishes” and “take care of your kids and mow your lawn” to support a path to U.S. citizenship for illegal aliens.

Cairo……Cantor…..discuss.

PappyD61 on July 18, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Muslim Brotherhood to EU: We’re ready to talk with interim gov’t

The problem is, unlike the Obama administration, THEY aren’t willing to talk to or work with TERRORISTS!

easyt65 on July 18, 2013 at 1:22 PM

PappyD61 on July 18, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Eric Cantor?

Is he nuts?

It is not the nativist faction doing the harm. We are not nativists…lots of us are immigrants or the sons and daughters of immigrants…LEGAL immigrants…who stood in line, filed the paperwork, met the standards, paid the fees, and waited and waited…months, years, to be approved…then when we got here, we worked…jumped into that melting pot with both feet and a smile upon our faces…and dreamed the American dream while we worked our butts off to achieve at least part of the dream…and got our citizenship along the way.

To continuously conflate LEGAL immigrants with ILLEGALS storming across our borders unchecked is the epitome of the stupidity that exists in Washington.

It is a direct insult to ALL legal immigrant Americans.

Was a time when if you didn’t have a job waiting, or a sponsor, you could be sent right back “home” from Ellis Island, Angel Island or Baltimore or New Orleans…the law said you would not become a ward of the state…or you could be deported.

Why are ILLEGALS being given preference? And being allowed to become wards of the state rigt off the bat?

coldwarrior on July 18, 2013 at 1:39 PM

OK…back to this MB/KKK demand that they be included…

Why?

coldwarrior on July 18, 2013 at 1:40 PM

Eric Cantor?

Is he nuts?

It is not the nativist faction doing the harm. We are not nativists…lots of us are immigrants or the sons and daughters of immigrants…LEGAL immigrants…who stood in line, filed the paperwork, met the standards, paid the fees, and waited and waited…months, years, to be approved…then when we got here, we worked…jumped into that melting pot with both feet and a smile upon our faces…and dreamed the American dream while we worked our butts off to achieve at least part of the dream…and got our citizenship along the way.

To continuously conflate LEGAL immigrants with ILLEGALS storming across our borders unchecked is the epitome of the stupidity that exists in Washington.

It is a direct insult to ALL legal immigrant Americans.

Was a time when if you didn’t have a job waiting, or a sponsor, you could be sent right back “home” from Ellis Island, Angel Island or Baltimore or New Orleans…the law said you would not become a ward of the state…or you could be deported.

Why are ILLEGALS being given preference? And being allowed to become wards of the state rigt off the bat?

coldwarrior on July 18, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Cantor?…..he’s just another BIG GOV loving Progressive with a republican mask.

PappyD61 on July 18, 2013 at 1:51 PM

Muslim Brotherhood to EU: We’re ready to talk with interim gov’t

Funny how gangsters look less intimidating when they’re wearing suits. I think the Hells Angels figured that out decades ago.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 18, 2013 at 2:24 PM

Who needs talks when you’ve got rioters? Oh, this is the Mid-east we’re talking about now…sorry.

Don L on July 18, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Wow. MB is “willing to talk” now? Too bad they were only willing to dictate when they grabbed power.

Morsi fired much of the senior military staff, threw out the Constitution and substituted their own islamist, illegally crafted and passed farce for it, and attempted to marginalize and weaken the independent judiciary, one of the only actual democratic institutions in Egyptian society when he had power. His idea of “dialogue” then was closing down opposing newspapers, radio, and websites.

Meanwhile, the values on the bonds the EU/ECB uses to fund all their bailouts are falling fast. They have time for pro forma denunciations of Israel (which are pre-drafted, filed, have absolutely no authority or effect anyway), but little for nonsense like throwing a lifeline to MB. Which, going by EU’s pathetic history, may be an indicator they will do it.

Adjoran on July 18, 2013 at 2:40 PM

Cockroaches are all God’s children, too…

But, if you find your house infested with them, do you really want to invite them to sit down with you at the dinner table?

Eradication is the only cure for vermin.

coldwarrior on July 18, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Is this a blink, or just a PR ploy?

Do remember that Islamokazis are commanded (not merely authorized) by the Koran to lie to infidels and apostates in order to advance themselves, and that if one isn’t 150% behind them, one is by definition either an infidel or an apostate.

Steve Eggleston on July 18, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Where does the Muslim Brotherhood get its money?

albill on July 18, 2013 at 4:56 PM

QUOTE:

Muslim Brotherhood to EU: We’re ready to talk with interim gov’t.

IMPLIED OMISSION:
Just tell us where their kids go to school.

Dr. Charles G. Waugh on July 18, 2013 at 9:25 PM