Boehner: It’s time to do something for the children of illegal immigrants

posted at 4:41 pm on July 17, 2013 by Allahpundit

The strongest sign yet that what emerges from the House will in fact include a path to citizenship — not for everyone, maybe, but certainly for DREAMers.

After dodging the issue for months, House Speaker John Boehner on Wednesday took a position on citizenship for undocumented immigrants, saying Congress must deal with the children of those who are in the United States illegally.

“This is about basic fairness. These children were brought here on no accord of their own. And frankly, they are in a very difficult position. And I think many of our members believe that this issue needs to be addressed,” Boehner said at the weekly press conference with House GOP leaders…

On Wednesday Cantor emphasized that this was one area where both political parties should work together to provide some certainty for children.

“The history of our country is one that has moved away from holding kids liable for the deeds, misdeeds, commitment of crimes by parents. These are, in many instances, kids without a country if we don’t allow them to become full citizens of our country,” Cantor told reporters Wednesday.

It’s not just Boehner and Cantor. Darrell Issa and House Judiciary Committee Chair Bob Goodlatte have also sounded warm to the idea of a limited DREAM-type amnesty for children recently. Like I said last week, if it’s a choice between a full path to citizenship for DREAMers versus legalization for all illegals without any new special path to citizenship, I’ll take door number one. Read Mickey Kaus to see why door number two, i.e. legalizing illegals right away without any preset procedure for green cards, would be an utter messaging and policy disaster for the GOP. You’ll get no goodwill from Latinos for it; Democrats screeching about “second-class status” will see to that. And you’ll get no real leverage on border security from it if the initial legalization happens before the border is secured, which Democrats will absolutely insist on in one form or another. Case in point: The new “Gang of Seven” bill in the House wants “legalization first” for illegals, but proposes letting that legal status be rescinded if the feds can’t get E-Verify up and running in five years. Show of hands: Who thinks Democrats would happily acquiesce in letting illegals be re-illegalized five years from now because security measures are lagging? It’s a scam and a nonstarter.

If the House somehow convinced the Senate and Obama to accept a “legalization without citizenship” plan now, the Dems will simply browbeat the GOP into creating a citizenship path for illegals sometime in the next year or two, which means the House bill in due time will end up looking a lot like the Senate bill — a full amnesty in due course with no real guarantees of stronger border enforcement. If the name of the game here is building goodwill with Latinos, better to give sympathetic DREAMers a path to citizenship and leave the fate of everyone else to be determined later, when Republicans control Congress and can use that leverage to force real border guarantees in exchange for wider legalization. If Chuck Schumer thinks that’s not good enough, that’s fine. Let him and the Democrats in the Senate kill the House’s DREAM proposal.

For a sneak preview of the Democratic “second-class status” attack on Republicans, skip to 4:25 here and watch The One make the case to Telemundo Denver. If the House passes legalization without citizenship instead of DREAM, Schumer won’t be nearly this soft-spoken in pushing this talking point in 2014 and 2015.


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Boehner, take the exit!

Even amnesty pusher Jeb Bush acknowledged the fertile nature of the illegal immigrants from Mexico. There may be 10 million adult illegals ready to vote, but there’s a lot more children.

And you look at the demographics of California cities that have been recently taken over by Hispanics, you find the average age to be ~ 23 to 24, while other cities have avg ages of over 30. This shows how child-laden these immigrant families are.

Interesting that in 1962 there was about 8% Hispanics in LA County. That was 49% Hispanic in LA County by 2010, and that number is skyrocketing. I’m looking at a printed publication “A Guide to LA County Cites.” Lets take a look at some of the Hispanic percentages in these LA County cities alphabetically: Artesia 36%, Avalon 57%, Azusa 69%, Baldwin Park 80%, Bell 93%, Bell Gardens 96%, Bellflower 55%. Etc. Socal now, next ??.

Security first, then amnesty, including for the remaining children. Yes, security first, in place for 5 years with effective e-verify also, then and only then give amnesty. And don’t risk doing anything “comprehensive” now where the senate could take control of the conference committee. Go bit by bit, forget the leftist senate.

There’s nothing unfair or heartless about standing up for not giving away our country. But I think the only person who has the guts and clearness of mind to stand up to these “bleeding hearts” is Palin.

anotherJoe on July 17, 2013 at 8:40 PM

I have come to the conclusion that the GOP want to legalize immigrants to keep the wage-base to a minimum, while the Dems want to legalize immigrants to stay in power.

Neither group wants what is best for America and most certainly neither group wants what is best for the American people.

Wino on July 17, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Security first, then amnesty,

anotherJoe on July 17, 2013 at 8:40 PM

No. Absolutely not. Security first and security last. It is the government’s job to secure the borders and carry out interior enforcement. There is nothing to negotiate about. That is one of the very few actual Constitutional duties of the feral government.

Legalization of illegals is treason, plain and simple. It isn’t “amnesty”, which would just be deporting them without levying any punishments on them, such as never being able to come back to this nation (as would be reasonable). But, to legalize them and give them exactly what they were trying to steal … that is well beyond amnesty. That is giving aid and comfort.

Interior enforcement. Period.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 17, 2013 at 8:53 PM

uh… why are some people calling this “amnesty?” amnesty is when someone does something wrong and they don’t get punished. children of illegals didn’t actually do anything wrong. i think people forget that.

children of illegals shouldn’t be banned forever from seeking US citizenship legally. and if you don’t ban them from that then that means you are eventually giving them… some kind of path to citizenship. yeah i said it. you can’t just act like children of illegals chose to break the law. their parents forced them to.

(sidenote: also i think the age for “children of illegals” should actually be higher than 18, like 24 or 25. it’s not like every 18-year-old on their birthday all of a sudden moves away from their parents and can support themselves and are totally fine and okay being away from their parents. independence from parents is a gradual process that can take years. for most people, it doesn’t suddenly happen on one’s 18th birthday. i’m in that transition time in my life right now. and keep in mind that in this case, we’re talking about not just living apart from parents but being in a different country from parents!! that’s a lot to handle. that’s why i want the age to be so high.)

Here’s what we could do… send them back to their countries of origin with their parents. It’s not MY fault that they’re in a bad position. It’s their parents’ faults.

Murf76 on July 17, 2013 at 5:09 PM

the government’s not going to deport all or most illegals. many are going to stay here. for the ones who stay here, if they brought their children… those children of illegals shouldn’t be banned from legal citizenship here forever.

Sachiko on July 17, 2013 at 9:01 PM

Don’t the ninos and ninas already get in state tuition, food stamps, Zero phones, ad nauseum govt programs? What more do we need to provide. I wish they would consider citizenship in the USA as golden, you know, like the former D gov of IL considered appointing a temp US senator.

Kissmygrits on July 17, 2013 at 9:03 PM

It’s time to do something for the children of illegal immigrants

So crying John is offering the ultimate prize:

A free lifetime subscription to the US welfare system, and an all expenses-paid vacation in the state of their choice for as long as want to stay here.

BobMbx on July 17, 2013 at 9:06 PM

Legalization of illegals is treason, plain and simple. It isn’t “amnesty”, which would just be deporting them without levying any punishments on them,

what?? deportation is a punishment.

such as never being able to come back to this nation (as would be reasonable).

that’s not reasonable. yes they should be banned for a period of time but there’s no reason to do it permanently. (unless they murdered someone here or something!!) just because someone commits a crime doesn’t mean their punishment should be permanent.

But, to legalize them and give them exactly what they were trying to steal … that is well beyond amnesty. That is giving aid and comfort.

Interior enforcement. Period.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 17, 2013 at 8:53 PM

i agree with this part, for people who willingly came here illegally. (children of illegals didn’t willingly do it)

Sachiko on July 17, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Security first, then amnesty,

anotherJoe on July 17, 2013 at 8:40 PM

No. Absolutely not…

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 17, 2013 at 8:53 PM

I agree with all your principles, and I agree with you in principle. And the main thing is to stop the lunacy being led apparently by Boehner. My thinking is that with effective security north of the border, primarily with e-verify (with teeth) or the equivalent, many of the illegals would in fact self-deport. So eventually, amnesty wouldn’t be as huge a deal. Certainly it would be nothing like the Republican and country killing monster that Rubio pushed. And, of course, I may seem like a bleeding heart myself, but this gives the R politician clear political cover to those that charge heartlessness: security, then amnesty. And political cover could be important when it comes to elections, because if we lose the elections, we lose the whole ball of wax. Of course, with “friends” like Rubio and McCain and Graham cracker, sometimes you think we could lose it all even if we won the elections. Stand against Boehner!

anotherJoe on July 17, 2013 at 9:16 PM

workingclass artist on July 17, 2013 at 8:06 PM

workingclass artist on July 17, 2013 at 8:08 PM

That is insanity. And no member of Congress is aware of this? I suppose they could have another worthless hearing and bark some more. Pitiful!

Good grief, without a Miracle, this Country is done.

bluefox on July 17, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Palin — ideally with many other principled conservatives — needs to start that 3rd Party ASAP …

ShainS on July 17, 2013 at 9:25 PM

GOP do it and you’re a dead party. Not only will you not get my support, I will do all I can to work against you. And I’m not alone.

Why do these guys disregard the conservative base? Do we have “FOOLS” written on our foreheads?

voiceofreason on July 17, 2013 at 9:28 PM

Palin — ideally with many other principled conservatives — needs to start that 3rd Party ASAP …

ShainS on July 17, 2013 at 9:25 PM

What makes you think conservatives can take on two parties when they can’t even take on one?

Ronnie on July 17, 2013 at 9:30 PM

I have come to the conclusion that the GOP want to legalize immigrants to keep the wage-base to a minimum, while the Dems want to legalize immigrants to stay in power.

Neither group wants what is best for America and most certainly neither group wants what is best for the American people.

Wino on July 17, 2013 at 8:40 PM

If we get any type of amnesty bill at all the above may be true.
If the abobe happens the Republican Party will have self-destructed.
As far as anchor babies go they should never be accorded citizenship. Legislation needs to be drawn up to account for those who come here simply to be on us soil when they give birth. The children should get automatic citizenship of their “home” country not the US.

rodguy911 on July 17, 2013 at 9:32 PM

Maybe this is one of Boehner’s incentives:

http://www.vdare.com/posts/sheldon-adelson-buying-national-republican-congressional-committee

bluefox on July 17, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Why do these guys disregard the conservative base? Do we have “FOOLS” written on our foreheads?

voiceofreason on July 17, 2013 at 9:28 PM

Money or blackmail imo.

bluefox on July 17, 2013 at 9:36 PM

What makes you think conservatives can take on two parties when they can’t even take on one?

Ronnie on July 17, 2013 at 9:30 PM

I understand your point — which undoubtedly gives many pause — and appreciate the question.

Conservatives, pretty much for decades now, have only had a choice between statist Democrats and lying statist-lite Republicans.

I personally believe that America is beyond the tipping point and the country is forever lost … but I’d like to go out with some honor and dignity fighting for its founding principles.

ShainS on July 17, 2013 at 9:38 PM

This on top of the filibuster giveaway, it’s finally time to start seriously thinking third party. I have never said that before but we no longer have anything to lose.

EFM on July 17, 2013 at 9:41 PM

This guy is an idiot. Has anyone spent time traveling into Mexico? It certainly isn’t easy to get there or stay there. You’d better have a passport and a Visa, or your out. If you do get in, you’ll end up in a shakedown by cops who will rape you, your wallet, or throw you in prison.

Rights for illegals??? Please!

stacman on July 17, 2013 at 9:46 PM

Boehner: It’s time to do something for the children of illegal immigrants

Help them pack?

I expect the use of children as human shield from Democrats, that sort of emotional blackmail is de rigeur for them, but I hope for better from Republican leadership.

This is an utterly weasel move; you concede here and then you find yourself being persuaded to be ‘reasonable’ on every other tenet of a program that has only one purpose: to depress U.S. wages in an effort to move them toward global parity.

The only appropriate counter to Boehner’s notion: “Let. Them. Starve.”

M240H on July 17, 2013 at 9:53 PM

“This is about basic fairness. These children were brought here on no accord of their own

Well then, maybe they should have a chat with their parents about that.

katy the mean old lady on July 17, 2013 at 9:53 PM

These children were brought here on no accord of their own.

What if the parents were car thieves? Can the kids keep the BMW they got for Christmas? Sorry, it’s not your car. It’s not your country. You can come here, but a lot of people want to come here. Get in line.

Ronnie on July 17, 2013 at 10:07 PM

No Mr. Boehner, who are you trying to patronize here gumba? Yeah, it’s time to do something and that something is to retire your arse as well as a whole bunch of your buddies. It’s not the money John or where it comes from, it’s the vote and you don’t and won’t have them. You’ve already ruined Rubio’s career with Cantor and Ryan waiting in the wings. You put forth this bill as law without securing the border first the last thing you’ll have to worry about is a Democrat. 2014 is going to be a bloodbath. Let’s do it people, purge the RINO’s and let’s get this over with.

Tangerinesong on July 17, 2013 at 10:16 PM

We need to throw all the RINOs out or start a new party. Boehner, Ryan, Cantor, Rubio, McCain, Graham…and the other hack politicians who care more about their party and staying in power than they care about America, need to be primaried.

fight like a girl on July 17, 2013 at 10:23 PM

How about doing something for the children of American citizens who will have to support millions of illegal welfare babies and compete with them for jobs after you pass Amnesty?

PaddyORyan on July 17, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Well, here is the thing about parents and their children. I attended seven schools by the time I was in eighth grade. My dad, each time he was given a promotion, had to relocate. It was not MY choice to relocate, but I had to go along for the ride. As children, we have to follow the actions of our parents, whether legal or illegal. Their parents are here illegally; and while I am sorry for the children, they, too, are here illegally and are being caught through the sins of their parents. Is it a shame, absolutely. But the sins of the parents are visited upon the children. Every child with a parent in the armed services, must move when the parents are told to move. Why is this any different? Oh, because the US is the only home they have ever known? That isn’t my fault, and kids adjust because they have to. Let the parents apply for legal immigration, let the child, who may now be twenty, apply for legal immigration, just like all the people who have applied for citizenship. These kids should not be treated any differently.

I have never understood why children, who are here illegally, are to be treated any differently because they were brought here at a young age. They are illegal aliens, regardless of age, or how long they have been here. Why are they given a pass?

herm2416 on July 17, 2013 at 10:30 PM

To every conservative in his district who may be reading this, please send a message to this guy and register independent.

Chubbs65 on July 17, 2013 at 10:36 PM

Let’s see– I voted for McCain, I voted for Ryan, and I supported Rubio. You’d think I would never learn. Well, I’ve finally learned that the Republican Party will betray me. Never again you worthless politicians. My memory will not fail me in the future.

mobydutch on July 17, 2013 at 10:38 PM

Boehner is totally owned on this and he will not stop with a Dream Amnesty

Check Opensecrets for all the amnesty boyz, look at the chart called Total Raised vs. Average Raised for each politician. The green bar is the money collected by the candidate for each year and the red line below is the amount collected by the average congressman.

For the election year preceding the amnesty push, these guys go through the roof in collections and the biggest recipient of an unbelieveable amount of bucks is Boehner

He has been working with liberal donors like billionaire Singer, who all want open borders. The only thing holding back Boehner is his worry how to put it past the public without getting tarred and feathered

Right now he is putting out feelers like a shark bumping its victim trying to see if it will fight back

They are withholding any real amnesty bill until after recess because they want to go home and lie with a straight face. Plus the constituents wont have anything in writing to shove in his face

What a dirty job he is

entagor on July 17, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Don’t just ramp up enforcement, get rid of the bleeping anchor-baby amendment. Technology has reached the point where with the right resources, “tourists” can reach the US from almost anywhere in the world in a day, so it is time to rethink that whole fluster-cluck.

Laura in Maryland on July 17, 2013 at 10:49 PM

“. . .do something for children of illegal immigrants. . ”

HEY! Isn’t that the job of the parents?

And, oh, by the way, my children and I were born here.
What do we get?

TimBuk3 on July 17, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Sometime during my life, anchor babies became known as DREAMers. Liberals: winning the war on language, with the help of the GOP.

Dongemaharu on July 17, 2013 at 10:56 PM

Haven’t we learned anything from the “Compassionate” Europeans? Look how they opened the borders up to the most prolific sect on the planet and now they are being overrun by Muslim slackers who not only are using all of the public’s money for their own welfare but the do not blend in or assimilate with the native culture. Does that sound like a very prominent group here in America? I have feelings too but we all know that the “New” immigration bill has about 40% of its quotas based on uniting families. That means that we will allow Mamacitas and Tios and all of their cousins to come here so that we can feed and house them forever.

inspectorudy on July 17, 2013 at 11:02 PM

Boehner: It’s time to do something for the children of illegal immigrants

STFU, Spelunker…

Gohawgs on July 18, 2013 at 12:17 AM

“Do it for the children” is the lefts mantra, Spelunker…

Gohawgs on July 18, 2013 at 12:18 AM

Boy, it didn’t take Boehner long to start carrying water for the democrats and RINOs on this. This is no doubt the plan to sell amnesty he concocted with Obama in their private meetings. I am so freakin’ done with these yahoos. These establishment hacks have totally turned me against the republican party. I have absolutely NO plans to head to the polls during the 2014 midterms and pull the lever for ANY republican the Washington establishment is grooming. I want the party to die the ignoble death it has brought upon itself.

KickandSwimMom on July 18, 2013 at 12:28 AM

Since when are 30 years children?

Why are prisoners included?

Boehner grants “the trust system” to ‘veryfy’ if they are here illegally…anyone can claim anything.

Go to Hades, Boehner and Ryan, and all the traitors of the land.

Schadenfreude on July 18, 2013 at 12:28 AM

deportation is a punishment.

Sachiko on July 17, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Being sent back to your country of citizenship is not a punishment.

Rebar on July 18, 2013 at 12:46 AM

bluefox on July 17, 2013 at 9:35 PM

Excellent post. Boehner is not naive, he is bought and paid for. This has been in the planning for a long time, preceding setting up Rubio as a fake tea party senator, and they are going to keep at it as many election cycles it takes (see Liz Cheney being fronted to take down an anti amnesty senator)

THe Club is raking in unbelievable bucks from progressives, globalists, and hard core leftists. Both left and RINO are pouring bucks onto the CLub to get this done. That is the bucks you see in tax reports, I hate to say it, but Apache posted something no one is considering – Mexican involvement – which would not show up in any audit.

Boehner is a bad chief who is drinking the cheap mescal of the border jumping drug cartel coyote operation for re-election money.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on July 17, 2013 at 6:23 PM

It doesnt have to be the drug cartel. There are many cartels. But you know what, that is one big bad axe operation that gets to work the open border in return for enough money to buy Mexico

Consider why Obama passes the obamaphone millions not to a US moneybags, but to Carlos Slim, the MExican tracphone monopolist. What does it take to hold a telecommunications monopoly in a drug cartel nation?

There are some good guys in the GOP. You can find them this way: if the party hates them

The GOP is corrupted to the nth. THat means they are as corrupt as the DEMs.

The big crap shoot is whether they will throw away the party, in return for the big prize. There is still some prestige attached to being in the leadership of a dying nation that once led the world

entagor on July 18, 2013 at 12:50 AM

When tax cheats, embellzers and the like are caught and punished, those lawbreakers are subject to forfeiting their ill gotten gains. But our learned betters think that those that are in our Country illegally should not forfeit one cent. Rather, per our betters, those lawbreakers should benefit from their illegal actions at the expense of those in the process of legally immigrating to America and at the expense of the American taxpayer…

After all, it’s only (our) money….

Gohawgs on July 18, 2013 at 12:58 AM

The Republican Party is proving to be the enemy of the conservative base, which is 90% white and which is gravely harmed by continuous mass immigration.

Continuous mass non-white immigration plus forced integration means that there will eventually be no white people, as a compulsory result of policy. That’s genocide.

The Republican Party does not have a moral right to endless support from people it sells out and is helping to force out of existence.

David Blue on July 18, 2013 at 1:55 AM

I guess the republican party is just going to carry on, until nobody cares anymore.

shar61 on July 18, 2013 at 2:08 AM

Here’s what we could do… send them back to their countries of origin with their parents. It’s not MY fault that they’re in a bad position. It’s their parents’ faults.

Also, we need to pass an amendment that ENDS birthright citizenship. Anybody born here without at least one citizen parent shouldn’t be allowed automatic citizenship. That’s a hold-over from long ago, meant to address the needs of the children of slaves. It needs to be gone.

Murf76 on July 17, 2013 at 5:09 PM

DITTO and
DITTO.

Lourdes on July 18, 2013 at 2:42 AM

The new “Gang of Seven” bill in the House wants “legalization first” for illegals, but proposes letting that legal status be rescinded if the feds can’t get E-Verify up and running in five years.

That is rife with “DC BS” talk, or, as Krauthammer referred to the similar nonsense spoken in testimony to Congress by the IRS, “it’s word salad.”

Does ANYone think that, once “legal” by any route granted by Congress, that ANY actually illegal alien will suddenly follow any order to depart if there’s any retraction of offer conditions afterward?

Once they’re here, they’re here. Even most illegal aliens brag about that today even without any further gifts of pathways by Congress. They won’t leave, they aren’t leaving, they’re proud of that arrogance.

Same goes for their children, the so-called “Dreamers,” who preach the same arrogance at every opportunity.

However, this isn’t their country. Congress speaking their ongoing “word salad” workaround fantasy hoogala-boogala nonsense about whatever-however about them (and to them) is a hideous intrusion on the public mental health AND on the Constitution: it takes great patience Congress is not owed to even listen to this word-salad crud as they bungle their way and our nation’s way into illegal mud.

We owe illegal aliens nothing. Nor their children. They won’t leave, brag about it, so deport them. If they are so concerned about their ‘families’ not being “broken up,” then don’t bring them here illegally and if they do, then take them back to their own countries as a family.

Once any deed by Congress is granted as to staying here with whatever promises, it only further secures an aggressive, arrogant illegal population who is well accustomed by now to taking that which doesn’t belong to them and demanding more.

Boehner, Cantor, so long. You’re an embarrassment to reason.

Lourdes on July 18, 2013 at 2:51 AM

I watched a show last week called “Border Wars” — camera crew onsite with Border Patrol, following them around while they did their jobs on the Southern Border.

They managed to round up a group of fourteen illegal aliens who had already entered the US and had been running all around the brush trying to evade the Border Patrol. But the BP managed to nab them and when questioning a few of the guys afterward, who were then detained, one of the illegals complained about “rampant corruption in Mexico” from whence he’d just left to return to the US illegally.

He’d been living in the US illegally, the guy boasted to the BP, for TWENTY EIGHT YEARS, had gone back to Mexico for his friends, and was re-entering again illegally when this event with the BP stopped and detained him.

So his rationaliztion to the BP was that there was “rampant corruption in Mexico” but the guy was proud of how he’d lived illegally in the US for TWENTY EIGHT YEARS prior to that arrest, that event on the show.

That guy excluded his own “utter corruption” while boasting about it and blaming others for it instead. In the US illegally for twenty-eight years, a corrupt individual living in the US and using the US corruptly for twenty-eight years, condemning “Mexico” for “rampant corruption”. I guess all that “rampant corruption in Mexico” taught him all he needed to know about how to continue it here in the US.

“There is no honor among thieves.”

Lourdes on July 18, 2013 at 2:58 AM

When this was still The United States such traitors would have been hanged.

Now they sell out their country, give themselves raises and massive benefits packages, and smile that the nation of robbed suckers who let their country be flushed down the Nuevo Cartel-istan toilet.

Goodbye America.

profitsbeard on July 18, 2013 at 3:30 AM

And, oh, by the way, my children and I were born here.
What do we get?

TimBuk3 on July 17, 2013 at 10:55 PM

The operative political word is ~SCREWED.

profitsbeard on July 18, 2013 at 3:37 AM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 17, 2013 at 8:53 PM

I agree completely.

That’s a hold-over from long ago, meant to address the needs of the children of slaves. It needs to be gone.

Murf76 on July 17, 2013 at 5:09 PM

Yes!

My understanding is that the origin is an opinion of a SCOTUS justice, and he was obviously incorrect.

deportation is a punishment.

Sachiko on July 17, 2013 at 9:08 PM

No it is not, and we neither need or want these people here. What part of depression is hard to understand?

What about what is “fair” to US taxpayers? Stop racking up the credit cards, Bonehead, you jackass!

dogsoldier on July 18, 2013 at 5:36 AM

This is a political maneuver to make Dems look bad. Reid is unlikely to allow a vote – and if he does, Obama will veto.

As such, I’m fine with it.

DRayRaven on July 18, 2013 at 5:52 AM

Time for the Feds to butt out. Go shrink yourself, Feds!

Sherman1864 on July 18, 2013 at 6:52 AM

And Boehner is getting redder not better.

Sherman1864 on July 18, 2013 at 6:54 AM

My take.

kingsjester on July 18, 2013 at 7:17 AM

No. Absolutely not. Security first and security last. It is the government’s job to secure the borders and carry out interior enforcement. There is nothing to negotiate about. That is one of the very few actual Constitutional duties of the feral government.
Legalization of illegals is treason, plain and simple. It isn’t “amnesty”, which would just be deporting them without levying any punishments on them, such as never being able to come back to this nation (as would be reasonable). But, to legalize them and give them exactly what they were trying to steal … that is well beyond amnesty. That is giving aid and comfort.
Interior enforcement. Period.
ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 17, 2013 at 8:53 PM

Beautifully said.

bluegill on July 18, 2013 at 7:19 AM

I despise the leadership of the gop!

They are filthy lying traitors……..that WILL NOT DEFEND this nations sovereign borders!!!!

And so much for the Tea Party…….they can’t even get rid of ANYONE on Boehners leadership team!

And the compassionate thing to do is SEAL THE FREAKING BORDER, and send the lawbreakers back to Mexico!!!

FACE IT: Big Business OWNS the very soul of the gop.

PappyD61 on July 18, 2013 at 7:22 AM

Take a look at California today after 25 years of an Illegal tsunami…….THAT is us in 10 years if AMNESTY passes this time.

NO AMNESTY

NO AMNESTY

NO AMNESTY

PappyD61 on July 18, 2013 at 7:28 AM

the GOP led by OOMPA-Loompa2 is either thinking America really wants to be communist, or is compromised and being used attaching my name and my ideals being part of this madhouse.

I’d rather the death of the Republic be a team Marxist Donkey production.

Essentially I’m German/English mostly…..

both my ancestral bloodlines likely believed in apocalypse by fire.

If the American people are not going to punish Obama for taking a dump on the Constitution and declaring himself the God-King I’m tired of fighting it…

screw it…

the American people are empowering the democrats to nuke our energy sector, fuck our wagebase into indolence…

screw it.

It’ll likely cost my family’s pension and I am just about out of “give a crap”…

our money is a joke now we’ve lost 32-40% BPP because of Bukakke and the Dede Jeantels of the nation will never blame the democrats.

the GOP led by OOMPA-Loompa2 is now trying to aid the democrats into importing another 40-60 million people to take the white and blue off the flag….why wait…?

don’t go for half measures…

shoot the hostage go home, kiss the prom queen, get drunk, go to bed…you know whichever seems appropo.

harlekwin15 on July 18, 2013 at 7:55 AM

the GOP led by OOMPA-Loompa2 is either thinking America really wants to be communist, or is compromised and being used attaching my name and my ideals being part of this madhouse.

I’d rather the death of the Republic be a team Marxist Donkey production.

Essentially I’m German/English mostly…..

both my ancestral bloodlines likely believed in apocalypse by fire.

If the American people are not going to punish Obama for taking a dump on the Constitution and declaring himself the God-King I’m tired of fighting it…

screw it…

the American people are empowering the democrats to nuke our energy sector, drive our wagebase into indolence…

screw it.

It’ll likely cost my family’s pension and I am just about out of “give a crap”…

our money is a joke now we’ve lost 32-40% BPP because of Helicopter Ben and the Dede Jeantels of the nation will never blame the democrats.

the GOP led by OOMPA-Loompa2 is now trying to aid the democrats into importing another 40-60 million people to take the white and blue off the flag….why wait…?

don’t go for half measures…

shoot the hostage go home, kiss the prom queen, get drunk, go to bed…you know whichever seems appropo.

harlekwin15 on July 18, 2013 at 7:56 AM

Absolutely stunning Mr. Boehner. This is not what leadership looks like.

The Speaker’s strategy is apparently an attempt co-opt the Democrats issues and play to their base…not his. It aptly displays the lack of principle which would otherwise guide these decisions. It is bereft of both reason and a sense of prioritizes for the American people and it is destined to lead us into more years of Democrat control.

Like I said last week, if it’s a choice between a full path to citizenship for DREAMers versus legalization for all illegals without any new special path to citizenship, I’ll take door number one.

We call this a false dichotomy, allahp. The correct means of handling this situation is to follow the law. If exceptions are sought, they should be based on individual merits- that’s the way our law works.

What the hell ever happened to pure intellectual reasoning? It’s apparently been trampled by pathos arguments and an army of strawmen.

Marcus Traianus on July 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM

America has become ROME…and like Rome, we are going to fall.

Rome’s government became bigger and bigger, gave out more free ‘stuff’ to appease it’s ever growing lazy, complacent people, and finally fell due to its own weight and corruption.

Every politician, it seems, is all for rewarding criminals while being against securing our own borders and strengthening our own National Security.

Those demanding our borders be secured before we move forward with a path to citizenship & other pro-Illegal legislation, give it up – NOT going to happen.

easyt65 on July 18, 2013 at 8:08 AM

Those demanding our borders be secured before we move forward with a path to citizenship & other pro-Illegal legislation, give it up – NOT going to happen.

easyt65 on July 18, 2013 at 8:08 AM

I have a better idea if we’re doomed to get democrat policy elect real democrats to destroy the nation faster.

Why go over the cliff at 55 MPH when you can go at 125 and maybe lose just two or three generations worth of liberty?

harlekwin15 on July 18, 2013 at 8:11 AM

And, oh, by the way, my children and I were born here.
What do we get?

TimBuk3 on July 17, 2013 at 10:55 PM

You and your children get to pay for the ones who came illegally.

trs on July 18, 2013 at 8:11 AM

Without a border fence with absolutely no holes and methods for finding tunnels we can send back all the illegals we want and they will be right back in no time at all.
Mexicois a corrupt narco run excuse for a country. If we want that here just wait 20 years or look at callyfornuh today.

rodguy911 on July 18, 2013 at 8:23 AM

If our borders were secure and our policies stringent this would be a non-issue. So all this does re-affirm that you can come in this country illegally and your kids can stay here. Great.

RDE2010 on July 18, 2013 at 8:26 AM

Hey Boehner! You know that thing about the “sins of the father?” It isn’t our fault that illegal immigrants have children. It is their fault. I’m tired of the old dhimocraptic meme of it’s for the children. We will lose our country and republic over your namby-pamby hand wringing. Why don’t you cry also. Faugh!

Old Country Boy on July 18, 2013 at 8:35 AM

Incredibly, DC pols insist we need a ‘path to citizenship’. Um, there is one. Fact is, like most Govt run programs it is inefficient at processing. Regarding security, the Govt ‘Job One’ ( to steal Ford’s slogan), the vast number of illegal ensconced proves that it too doesn’t work effectively… You may note a trend, here.

Mrs. Socalcon insists that our toaster will work its magic on bread much faster on sliced of bread/bagels with the knob turned all the way up. Such is not the case, it merely holds the slice under the burners longer. This ‘delay’ frustrates her so she tends (since we are both over fifty) to ignore it or forget the bread. Either way, it’s undercooked or overcooked( charred bird food). We’re onto our third toaster in three years.

She’s the perfect model for a DC politician.

socalcon on July 18, 2013 at 8:37 AM

No it’s time for our politicians in Congress to do something for the children of American citizens who can’t find a job!

And btw….why am I a completely inncoent white person held liable for slaves other white people…long dead… owned that weren’t even related to me….I am held responsponible socially and financially to black people who were never slaves…why guilt for me yet many of the same group go on and on about how innocent these “children” of illegals are because they didn’t have a choice…well I didn’t either…and considering I was way way less than a child when the transgression took place…how about amnesty for us!!

Caseoftheblues on July 18, 2013 at 8:48 AM

These children were brought here on no accord of their own. And frankly, they are in a very difficult position.

Respectfully, Mr. Boehner, as opposed to the situation they’d be in had their parents opted to stay in their native country? Is there no end to the creeping nanny-state ‘cancer’ consuming the Republic?

socalcon on July 18, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Just searched the Medical Registry in DC…not one Spine surgeon, among the lot.

socalcon on July 18, 2013 at 8:59 AM

Why do these guys disregard the conservative base? Do we have “FOOLS” written on our foreheads?

voiceofreason on July 17, 2013 at 9:28 PM

More like “booty call”.

No invitation for drinks and dinner before, with an occassional exception only when absolutely necessary… definitely no sleeping over after…. and don’t ever, ever, ever get any illusions about where this relationship is headed.

lynncgb on July 18, 2013 at 9:14 AM

Why do these guys disregard the conservative base? Do we have “FOOLS” written on our foreheads?

voiceofreason on July 17, 2013 at 9:28 PM

The truth?

Yes … yes you do.

I mean – you’ve been voting for smaller government for 50 years … they tell you every campaign they’re going to give you smaller government – election after election you march to the polls and give them your vote even though – THEY NEVER REDUCE GOVERNMENT AND – IN FACT, GROW IT RIGHT UNDER YOUR NOSE EVERY TIME THEY COME TO POWER!!

And yet you vote for them.

They nominated a guy who’s strong socialist on healthcare – a guy who was out of touch with 80% of the grassroots – a Northeastern Liberal Republican.

And hell – all the Ayatollahs had to tell you guys was that he was “better than Obama” and you ought to vote for him to “Save America”.

And you did.

So why would the GOP establishment give you anything BUT BROKEN PROMISES? Until you walk out the door and refuse them your vote – they’re going to continue to give this sh!t to you because it works for them.

I voted for Obama – F*** the GOP – I’m tired of being lied to. Obama can smash this nation to bits and the real men out here … well we’ll rebuild it.

And I’ve been contributing to the Democratic campaigns of any Dim who’s willing to take on RINO Ayatollah Establishment Republican. And – I will continue to do so.

You cannot FIX the nation by voting Repubelican. You have to first fix the Republican party and you do that by refusing to vote for their foolish asses until they do things right.

HondaV65 on July 18, 2013 at 9:21 AM

KingsJester
What is now obvious is the fact that Boehner, Ryan, Cantor, and the rest of the Republican Establishment are the most gullible politicians on the planet.

I don’t think they are gullible. I believe they have been bought. Powerful business interests want that army of cheap labor.

They have managed to stagnate our middle class wages for twelve years. Think about that. Inflation and taxes are crushing us, but the elites want more profits. their stockholders demand it and they want it. They want their pay increases. Their pays have increased and so have those of public sector workers and politicians.

dogsoldier on July 18, 2013 at 9:27 AM

dogsoldier on July 18, 2013 at 9:27 AM

You make a good point.

It is getting harder and harder to distinquish the “Republicans” from the Democrats.

kingsjester on July 18, 2013 at 9:35 AM

kingsjester on July 18, 2013 at 9:35 AM

It sure is. Maybe we should call them RepubliRats.

dogsoldier on July 18, 2013 at 9:41 AM

I am so tired of hearing about fairness. It permeates every political issue now.

Look, to achieve equality we would have to treat everybody the same. To achieve fairness you need to treat everybody on an individual basis in order to assess the relative level of “fairness”.

America can be a nation of equality, or fairness. It can’t be both. The Founders chose equality.

The Schaef on July 18, 2013 at 10:00 AM

HondaV65

Nice try but Im not buying it.
You can’t tell me that if we stop giving to the RNC only support individucal candidates and make war on every rino out there that we won’t take back the party.It just may not happen as quickly as we like.

Your method says to burn down the building,hope enough good guys are still in charge that we can do the right thing to rebuild and then hopefully rebuild. Sorry too much “hope and change” with all that. We tried hopey change it defintily does not work.
Too much damage in the process and there is no guarantee that we won’t get islamos or commies in the process who take over in the interim vaccuum and getting rid of them is harder than getting rid of beltway pubbies any day.
So your method is a bit too simplistc and really won’t work.
RINOS/GOP-er’s are weak,conservatives are strong. It may not happen as soon as any of us like but we will replace them.

rodguy911 on July 18, 2013 at 10:03 AM

“Basic fairness.” If you break my laws, I’ll go out of my way to help your children.

Sorry, I don’t see it.

morganfrost on July 18, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Boehner has got to go. Time for a Tea Party speaker!

CatoRenasci on July 18, 2013 at 10:13 AM

proceeds of a crime.
they can blame the parents, not my job to care.

dmacleo on July 18, 2013 at 11:14 AM

It’s time for Boehner to go. He is a traitor to conservative principals.

sadatoni on July 18, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Any sort of Dream Act is positive reinforcement for Mexicans & others to get here with families – it will just encourage illegal immigration and is a reward to illegals for breaking our laws. Do you think (hypocritical) Mexico has a dream act?

Chessplayer on July 18, 2013 at 11:33 AM

It’s time to do something for the children of illegal immigrants

You mean something other than send them back with their parents to their native country? So we’re going to legalize the children and ship their parents back home? We’re going to make sure the children don’t become the new anchor babies?

Why doesn’t anyone ever ask why other countries are able to restrict illegal immigration but the US can’t?

katiejane on July 18, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Who is caring for the legitimate taxpayers in this country? WTF does “fairness” mean? Are they going to apply “fairness” for all the dying children in Africa? They, certainly, need some fairness.

HopeHeFails on July 18, 2013 at 12:18 PM

Do you think (hypocritical) Mexico has a dream act?

Chessplayer on July 18, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Mexico does have a “dream act” it’s that every able bodied mexicon works here in the U.S. and sends money back to fund the mexicons.

rodguy911 on July 18, 2013 at 12:33 PM

Ex-Speaker Boehner!

Has a nice ring to it.

Another Drew on July 18, 2013 at 1:29 PM

“Fairness Mr. Speaker?”

http://www.breitbart.com/InstaBlog/2013/07/18/Man-Deported-11-Times-Caught-Re-Entering-United-States

ELOY, Ariz. – A 21-year-old Mexican man deported 11 times for entering the United States illegally, made it an even 12 when he was caught again Tuesday afternoon – this time on suspicion of drug trafficking.

A Phoenix TV station reported that Daniel Jupa-Fino of Sonora, Mexico, was one of two men in a vehicle being pursued by a Pinal County deputy. The men were traveling west and when the deputy attempted to pull them over, the suspects crossed into the eastbound lanes, and then came to an abrupt halt. The suspects fled the vehicle into a nearby trailer park, where the passenger, 19-year-old Felipe Gonzalez-Tempura, was apprehended.

Police found Jupa-Fino at a nearby gas station where he was taken into custody after a brief fight. Deputies told the TV station that they confiscated 220 pounds of marijuana worth more than $165,000 in the suspects’ vehicle.

They were both charged with possession of marijuana, possession of marijuana for sale and transportation of marijuana.

Seal the freaking border first, you traitorous Ruling Classers in DC!!!!

PappyD61 on July 18, 2013 at 1:58 PM

http://blog.videominutes.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Screen-Shot-Hispanic-Percent-Of-Total-County-Population-2010-U.S.-Census-Minus-Alaska.jpg

These bright reds will cover the United States in 20 years if this AMNESTY bill passes.

SEAL the border first.

PappyD61 on July 18, 2013 at 2:01 PM

Boehner: It’s time to do something for the children of illegal immigrants

I agree. We should ship these children along with their parents back to their country of origin.

free on July 18, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Yeah, put them on a bus & send them back, you might as well go along. Greasy politicians talking at us. Making decisions for us because they know best. That’s why Congress runs so smoothly.

RdLake on July 18, 2013 at 4:35 PM

What Boehner, Cantor, McCarthy and the other liars from the House and the Senate need to do is resign. The leaders in the House for lying and the Senators for lying and passing the most Anti-American bill called Immigration!!

Mark Levin just called out anyone and everyone to debate what is in this evil.

http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-perspective/071713-664096-immigration-bill-filled-with-millions-special-interests-webhedand160-immigration-bill-millions-in-slush-funds-to-special-interests.htm

God Bless M. Stanton Evans for researching this and writing the article.

bluefox on July 18, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Vote Boehner and Cantor out of their leadership positions immediately and the rest will come to their senses and quit pushing Amnesty. Someone’s got to- rise to the challenge

DaMav on July 19, 2013 at 1:06 AM

We have to “do something” for the children of illegal immigrants? How about sending them back to Mexico with their parents?! Boehner needs to resign as speaker ASAP. I am so sick of being betrayed by the GOP. I’m done. Third party, here I come!

Mean Granny on July 19, 2013 at 4:05 PM

We should be sending whole families back if a parent is a criminal.

As soon as you say kids can stay because they don’t know any other home, their parents feel they can commit all the crime they want to because they won’t get sent back because they have to take care of their American kids. American kids who can get the family welfare and food stamps.

Fleuries on July 19, 2013 at 8:46 PM

I’m sure they will be happier in Mexico, where La Raza will not be agitating, and they will be free to walk out of the shadows and breathe the air as a free Mexican. They can buy insurance and pay taxes along with all the other Mexican citizens.

But before they go, let’s ask Mexico if they will also take Boehner.

virgo on July 20, 2013 at 2:16 AM

Time for Boehner to put the bottle down and take the pledge.

SANTA on July 21, 2013 at 7:01 PM

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