Quotes of the day

posted at 8:01 pm on July 14, 2013 by Allahpundit

Also on CNN Sunday, Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.) said that “I think it’s right to ask the Justice Department to fully, fully pursue civil rights violation…to lead to a consquence of charges if necessary.” On the same show, Rep. Chakah Fattah (D-Penn.) particularly lamented the fact that George Zimmerman will get his gun back. And he was worried about the standard that the verdict will set: “If someone tells you not to follow a kid, then you follow him, and you get out of your car, and you shoot him and you kill him, then that’s okay.”

Texas Gov. Rick Perry was also on CNN, and was asked by host Candy Crowley about the Zimmerman verdict. Perry said that the killing of Martin was “without a doubt, a tragic event” but that “we have the best judicial system in the world and we respect it.” Perry also said that he thinks “our justice system is colorblind.” On the same show, Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn said much of the same: “The American way is colorblind.”

***

Of course the deadly meeting last year between Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman had at its core a racial element. Of course its tragic result reminds us that the nation, in ways too many of our leaders refuse to acknowledge, is still riven by race. The story of Martin and Zimmerman is the story of crime and punishment in America, and of racial disparities in capital sentencing, and in marijuana prosecutions, and in countless other things. But it wasn’t Judge Debra Nelson’s job to conduct a seminar on race relations in 2013. It wasn’t her job to help America bridge its racial divide. It was her job to give Zimmerman a fair trial. And she did…

What the verdict says, to the astonishment of tens of millions of us, is that you can go looking for trouble in Florida, with a gun and a great deal of racial bias, and you can find that trouble, and you can act upon that trouble in a way that leaves a young man dead, and none of it guarantees that you will be convicted of a crime…

[W]hat comes next, surely, is a wrongful death civil action for money damages brought against Zimmerman by the Martin family. That means another case, and perhaps another trial, with evidentiary rules that are more relaxed than the ones we’ve just seen. And that means that a few years from now, after Martin v. Zimmerman is concluded, we’ll likely know more about what happened that night than we do today. That’s the good news. The bad news is that no matter how many times Zimmerman is hauled into court, we will never know the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth about what happened that terrible night.

***

I think the message of this episode is unfortunate. By Florida law, in any violent confrontation ending in a disputed act of lethal self-defense, without eye-witnesses, the advantage goes to the living.

An intelligent, self-interested observer of this case, who happens to live in Florida, would not be wrong to do as George Zimmerman did–buy a gun, master the finer points of Florida self-defense law and then wait.

Circling back to the first point, it’s worth remembering that caused a national outcry was not the possibility of George Zimmerman being found innocent, but that there would be no trial at all. This case was really unique because of what happened with the Sanford police. If you doubt this, ask yourself if you know the name “Jordan Davis.” Then ask yourself how many protests and national media reports you’ve seen about him.

***

[T]his seems the perfect time to reflect on the media’s cynical and dishonest role in turning a local crime into a national obsession.

As you will see below, by hook and crook, the mainstream media did everything in its still-potent power to not only push for the prosecution of Mr. Zimmerman (the police originally chose not to charge him) but also to gin up racial tensions where none needed to exist.

It all started with the anchor of a major television network (Al Sharpton) inserting himself in the story to spread division and hate; it continued straight through to the closing days of the trial when another major news network, desperate to keep a fabricated racial narrative alive, propagated the portrayal of Zimmerman as part of a racial group that doesn’t exist — the “white Hispanic.”

In-between, there has been an astonishing amount of malicious fraud and lies, all in an effort to serve a president, stir racial hatred, and influence the justice system.

***

MSNBC tried and convicted Zimmerman, executed him by firing squad, then propped the body up at the defense table so it could do it all over again. Host Lawrence O’Donnell said Zimmerman shot “a black teenager to death for having done absolutely nothing,” and opined that “I believe what we have here is evidence of a police cover-up.” At a rally, another of the network’s personalities, the Rev. Al Sharpton, compared the injustice done to Martin to the Crucifixion of Jesus Christ — and that may have been one of his cooler-headed moments…

Justice, in the sense of a deliberate, lawful judgment consistent with the facts, was never the driving passion of the Zimmerman-haters. They wanted a racial morality play. If Trayvon Martin had been shot by another black person, no one would have cared. Al Sharpton wouldn’t have made him a cause. Lawrence O’Donnell wouldn’t have batted an eyelash. No one outside his immediate family and friends would have ever known his name.

Trayvon Martin’s shooting was an ideologically useful tragedy, and so the vultures did their worst.

***

He will be free, if he chooses, to leave Seminole County, Florida. But one of his attorneys, Mark O’Mara, has said that Zimmerman is a marked man and lives in fear for his life.

In fact, during court proceedings, Zimmerman didn’t disclose where he had been residing for more than a year, and he dared to venture outdoors only when in disguise. Zimmerman also wore body armor.

I believe his life is at risk, and I don’t say that for dramatic effect,” O’Mara said before the verdict. “There are a lot of people who think George killed Trayvon Martin for racial reasons, even though nothing supports that. And if they feel that anger enough, they could react violently.”

***

Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) said Sunday that the Justice Department had a tough choice in deciding whether to bring federal civil rights charges against George Zimmerman

“I know that investigation’s going on. As a former prosecutor, I know you wait until you see all the evidence,” Klobuchar said on ABC’s “This Week.”

“They’re going to have to make that decision. It’ll be a tough one.”

***

The NBC host asked, “And the president, does he have a role in speaking about it as he did after the shooting?”

“Yeah, of course,” said [Harry] Reid. “And I think the Justice Department’s going to take a look at this. You know, this isn’t over with, and I think that’s good, that’s our system. It’s gotten better, not worse.”

***

“This became a focus for a civil rights event,” O’Mara continued, “which again is a wonderful event to have. But they decided that George Zimmerman would the person who they were to blame and use as a creation of a civil rights violation, none of which was borne out by the facts. The facts that night was not borne out that he acted in a racial way. His history is a non racist.”

“If only those who decided to condemn Mr Zimmerman as quickly and as viciously as they did would have taken just a little bit of time to find out who it was they were condemning, it never would have happened,” O’Mara concluded. “And it certainly wouldn’t have happened if he was black, because those people who decided that they were going to make him the scapegoat would not have.”

***

***

Leaders at the nation’s oldest civil rights organization have spoken with senior members of U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder’s team at the Justice Department about pursuing federal civil rights charges against George Zimmerman, NAACP president Ben Jealous said Sunday…

“We are glad what they began months back continues, which is a serious reviewing of everything that came out in this case, everything that was known before this case,” Jealous said…

“They will make a choice about whether or not they will pursue criminal civil rights charges. We are calling on them to do just that,” he said. “When you look at (Zimmerman’s) comments, when you look at his comments about young black men in that neighborhood, about how they felt specially targeted by him, there is reason to be concerned that race was a factor in why he targeted young Trayvon.”

***

“There will be a federal investigation, they will publicly discuss it, and there will not be charges filed,” Abrams said. “They can’t win in this case. They won’t win, and they know that.”

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Electrongod!!!!!!

KCB on July 14, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Justice…

Electrongod on July 14, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Sorry KCB…
I was a little too late..
:)

Electrongod on July 14, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Hi EG!

KCB on July 14, 2013 at 8:03 PM

KCB on July 14, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Hi…
What a weekend…huh?

Tomorrow should be interesting once Obama and the others read about what happened Yesterday…

Electrongod on July 14, 2013 at 8:04 PM

Also on CNN Sunday, Rep. Raul Grijalva (D-Ariz.) said that “I think it’s right to ask the Justice Department to fully, fully pursue civil rights violation…to lead to a consquence of charges if necessary.”

Because a jury of your peers was so yesterday….

Electrongod on July 14, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Holder will probably have Zimmerman arrested. And I am only half kidding.

KCB on July 14, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.) said Sunday that the Justice Department had a tough choice in deciding whether to bring federal civil rights charges against George Zimmerman…

“I know that investigation’s going on. As a former prosecutor, I know you wait until you see all the evidence,” Klobuchar said on ABC’s “This Week.”

“They’re going to have to make that decision. It’ll be a tough one.”

Try reading the statute first, dimwit.

The Civil Rights Act applies to government employees. Zimmerman was a volunteer civilian Neighborhood Watch guy who wasn’t even on duty that night, IIRC.

Wethal on July 14, 2013 at 8:07 PM

The White House statement summed the left’s position up perfectly.

Trayvon Martin didn’t die as a dope-smoking street thug. He was a victim of gun violence. He’d be alive and George Zimmerman would be dead if not for Americans being able to exercise their Second Amendment rights. And for the rat-eared coward and his supporters, the street thugs should be the ones living and honest citizens should be the dead ones. Obama called for us to honor the death of a worthless street thug who thought he could prey on a pudgy “white Hispanic.”

I think we should be honoring the justice system that, for once, got it exactly right.

Happy Nomad on July 14, 2013 at 8:08 PM

If I never hear of another ginned up racial beef it will be too soon.

Mason on July 14, 2013 at 8:08 PM

In-between, there has been an astonishing amount of malicious fraud and lies, all in an effort BY AND to serve a president, stir racial hatred, and influence the justice system.

FIFY

ShainS on July 14, 2013 at 8:10 PM

I held my nose and tuned into MSNBC in the early morning hours just to see how outraged the gang would be with the not guilty verdict. There were four babes on, a host and three quests on the discussion panel. They were all trying their best to promote a race war in every city from coast to coast. Spent a great deal of time quoting Big Al Sharpton too. Really disgusting to watch. Four bimbos without a clue other than knowing how to stir up trouble.

fogw on July 14, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Well.I can’t wait,till we get back,on what Hopey/Changey is up to!!
(sarc)

canopfor on July 14, 2013 at 8:10 PM

Try reading the statute first, dimwit.

The Civil Rights Act applies to government employees. Zimmerman was a volunteer civilian Neighborhood Watch guy who wasn’t even on duty that night, IIRC.

Wethal on July 14, 2013 at 8:07 PM

When someone like Amy says that such a case is a “tough” decision, you know she means it – it means they want to go ahead and do it, but are running into a problem with ‘lack of sufficient grounds’!

Anti-Control on July 14, 2013 at 8:11 PM

Seems as if Dear Leader and his merry men are looking to drive this to a flash point. It hasn’t worked yet, but with the support of the State Run Media maybe they can..?

d1carter on July 14, 2013 at 8:11 PM

What’s with this from Drudge:

DEVELOPING: DOJ ZIMMERMAN CASE FACES FBI BLOCK

There is no link with the headline as yet. Is it implying the FBI is refusing to assist DOJ?

Dusty on July 14, 2013 at 8:12 PM

MeanWhile,who ever Lil Wayne is,he isn’t happy
with the,………….CHANGE!

Lil Wayne WEEZY F ✔ @LilTunechi

Tampa was amazing but kame bak to my bus and saw da news…ain’t shit change, and I may never get to see it do so. I pray 4my kids & yours.
10:53 PM – 13 Jul 2013
**********************

http://globalgrind.com/entertainment/celebrities-react-george-zimmerman-not-guilty-verdict-beyonce-moment-silence-trayvon-martin-details

canopfor on July 14, 2013 at 8:12 PM

What the verdict says, to the astonishment of tens of millions of us, is that you can go looking for trouble in Florida, with a gun and a great deal of racial bias, and you can find that trouble, and you can act upon that trouble in a way that leaves a young man dead, and none of it guarantees that you will be convicted of a crime…

Nothing like leaving out a rather large part of the story that most directly led to that “young man’s” death.

Bitter Clinger on July 14, 2013 at 8:12 PM

We are busy trying to gain Hispanic votes.

Obama is trying to lynch Hispanics.

Can anyone think of a tactic that we could use to gain Hispanic votes.

hmmm………..

WAKE UP GOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

faraway on July 14, 2013 at 8:13 PM

Trayvon Martin shooting

NYPD waiting for Trayvon Martin rally on 6th Ave – @BuzzFeedNews

2 mins ago from twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews by editor
======================================================

https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedNews/status/356564114719506432/photo/1

canopfor on July 14, 2013 at 8:13 PM

[Dusty on July 14, 2013 at 8:12 PM]

Okay there is a link now. Reading …

Dusty on July 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM

Results for #ZimmermanTrial

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ZimmermanTrial&src=hash

canopfor on July 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM

“I believe his life is at risk, and I don’t say that for dramatic effect,” O’Mara said before the verdict. “There are a lot of people who think George killed Trayvon Martin for racial reasons, even though nothing supports that. And if they feel that anger enough, they could react violently.”

Which will cause one to defend one-self…

Full circle..

Electrongod on July 14, 2013 at 8:14 PM

What the verdict says, to the astonishment of tens of millions of us, is that you can go looking for trouble in Florida, with a gun and a great deal of racial bias, and you can find that trouble, and you can act upon that trouble in a way that leaves a young man dead, and none of it guarantees that you will be convicted of a crime…

…what a$$ came up with this? ^

KOOLAID2 on July 14, 2013 at 8:15 PM

When someone like Amy says that such a case is a “tough” decision, you know she means it – it means they want to go ahead and do it, but are running into a problem with ‘lack of sufficient grounds’!

Anti-Control on July 14, 2013 at 8:11 PM

They know there is no case, but they have to go through public Kabuki to satisfy the racemongers like Sharpton and Jealous.

Then there will no doubt be an outcry for amending federal civil rights law to cover private individuals (no basis in the Constitution for that, but since when did the tattered document matter to the One?).

Dems will end up making gun control an issue in 2014, and along with Shamnesty, used to make the GOP a bunch of raaacists.

Wethal on July 14, 2013 at 8:15 PM

We are busy trying to gain Hispanic votes.

Obama is trying to lynch Hispanics.

Can anyone think of a tactic that we could use to gain Hispanic votes.

hmmm………..

WAKE UP GOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

faraway on July 14, 2013 at 8:13 PM

I wish we had more people on the Right who didn’t consider “shameless pandering” to always be beneath them…

Anti-Control on July 14, 2013 at 8:15 PM

The NBC host asked, “And the president, does he have a role in speaking about it as he did after the shooting?”

“Yeah, of course,” said [Harry] Reid. “And I think the Justice Department’s going to take a look at this. You know, this isn’t over with, and I think that’s good, that’s our system. It’s gotten better, not worse.”

Gee, I wonder why DOJ didn’t think to run OJ through the federal wringer. It seems Ron and Nicole’s civil rights were violated.

Bitter Clinger on July 14, 2013 at 8:15 PM

Crap,should of posted this above the NYPD Wall of Offocers:

ayvon Martin shooting

Photo: Union Square, New York, rally for Trayvon Martin – @maceyjforonda

34 mins ago from twitter.com/maceyjforonda by editor
=========================================================

https://twitter.com/maceyjforonda/status/356544761085177858/photo/1

canopfor on July 14, 2013 at 8:15 PM

It’s not racism….. it’s probability, actuarial tables, statistics. Facts are stubborn things

Holder will finally try to enforce a law….

HatfieldMcCoy on July 14, 2013 at 8:16 PM

An intelligent, self-interested observer of this case, who happens to live in Florida, would not be wrong to do as George Zimmerman did–buy a gun, master the finer points of Florida self-defense law and then wait.

Yep, that’s exactly what George Zimmerman did. Just so he could get away with murder.
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Bitter Clinger on July 14, 2013 at 8:18 PM

Last year, the FBI investigated the case, interviewed many witnesses, and determined that NEITHER RACE NOR ANIMUS PLAYED ANY ROLE in this tragedy.

Zip.

Zilch.

Nada.

Resist We Much on July 14, 2013 at 8:20 PM

There is no link with the headline as yet. Is it implying the FBI is refusing to assist DOJ?

Dusty on July 14, 2013 at 8:12 PM

Could the prior FBI investigation that cleared Zimmerman was so thorough the feds would have to impeach their own agents to file something.

Wethal on July 14, 2013 at 8:20 PM

Potential silver lining in all of this? Out of control DoJ prosecutes and convicts Zimmerman for civil rights violations and forces SCOTUS to come to its senses concerning the double jeopardy nature of civil rights convictions.

NotCoach on July 14, 2013 at 8:21 PM

Yep, that’s exactly what George Zimmerman did. Just so he could get away with murder.
//////////////////////////////////

Bitter Clinger on July 14, 2013 at 8:18 PM

These race-baiting c0ck suckers don’t care about the facts of this case. The Sanford police had it right from the start, and the verdict in this case would vindicate them in a sane world.

NotCoach on July 14, 2013 at 8:23 PM

If someone tells you not to follow a kid, then you follow him, and you get out of your car, and you shoot him and you kill him, then that’s okay.

How’s bout ya lay in wait and open a can of whip ass on a guy, tell him he’s gonna die….. and low and behold he pulls a weapon and it’s lights out…..

TOO BAD >>>> SO SAD

roflmmfao

donabernathy on July 14, 2013 at 8:24 PM

Of course the deadly meeting last year between Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman had at its core a racial element.

mmmmm, weird because at it’s core I thought it had the fact that someone responsible for security for a community that had been victimized saw someone that matched the description of some previously described by residents demographic. In addition, the said young man was hooded, somewhere he shouldn’t have been and apparently had some issues with authority. After beating the crap out of Zimmerman and no doubt he would have crushed his skull on the ground he was shot and killed.

Race didn’t push Zimmerman to the ground. Race didn’t proceed to bash his head in. Race wasn’t the reason Saint Trayvon was in the subdivision.


This was at it’s core………..ABOUT CRIMINALITY.

PappyD61 on July 14, 2013 at 8:24 PM

What the verdict says, to the astonishment of tens of millions of us, is that you can go looking for trouble in Florida, with a gun and a great deal of racial bias, and you can find that trouble, and you can act upon that trouble in a way that leaves a young man dead, and none of it guarantees that you will be convicted of a crime…

…what a$$ came up with this? ^

KOOLAID2 on July 14, 2013 at 8:15 PM

Isn’t this the MO of the dhimmicRAT populated KKK?

davidk on July 14, 2013 at 8:24 PM

The first Sanford prosecutor and cops wanted to make sure they were making the right decision in not prosecuting, so they had the FBI vet the investigation.

Wethal on July 14, 2013 at 8:24 PM

They know there is no case, but they have to go through public Kabuki to satisfy the racemongers like Sharpton and Jealous.

I agree, but I am not convinced that they’ll go all the way & charge Zimmerman…I do realize they are capable of being so stupid, however, as some of 0dumba’s 9-0 losses at the SC showed us!

Then there will no doubt be an outcry for amending federal civil rights law to cover private individuals (no basis in the Constitution for that, but since when did the tattered document matter to the One?).

Dems will end up making gun control an issue in 2014, and along with Shamnesty, used to make the GOP a bunch of raaacists.

Wethal on July 14, 2013 at 8:15 PM

They are easy to read…

Anti-Control on July 14, 2013 at 8:25 PM

Nothing like leaving out a rather large part of the story that most directly led to that “young man’s” death.

Bitter Clinger on July 14, 2013 at 8:12 PM

No kidding. And much of this was not allowed in court because it would be putting the “victim” on trial but Trayvon Martin was not gunned down by a racist on his way home from a Bible study group.

Trayvon Martin was a racist. His social media name would be flagged by HA. He was suspended from his school for having pot and burglary tools in his backpack. He was in the process of buying a gun. He had an obsession with fighting. On the night he was killed, he was lurking around a neighborhood with a spate of recent break-ins. And by lurking I mean he was wandering in places without sidewalks or other ways legitimate visitors would be wandering through the neighborhood.

This was not a young man. He was a worthless street thug who was killed because he thought he could prey on a pudgy guy who dared look at him.

Happy Nomad on July 14, 2013 at 8:25 PM

Dusty on July 14, 2013 at 8:16 PM

Shouldn’t matter anyways. Profiling is not illegal, especially for a private citizen. While I agree there is zero evidence to support the claim of profiling, even if there was it isn’t a crime.

NotCoach on July 14, 2013 at 8:25 PM

[Wethal on July 14, 2013 at 8:20 PM]

I read the article and it reads as an FBI document dump. I haven’t followed the case in detail so I don’t know what in there might be news.

You’re surmise seems about right. Drudge seems to be editorializing a bit much with the headline, though.

Dusty on July 14, 2013 at 8:26 PM

The Jordan Davis story is nothing like the Trayvon Martin incident and that man is not going to go free.

Cindy Munford on July 14, 2013 at 8:27 PM

the US political system is all about money. Here’s the top 100 donor groups

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-14/presenting-all-time-top-100-political-donors

the short version is that the Left gets most of the money. The unions and Act Blue et al are Power Players…deforming everything they touch. No one who has watched the trial can be surprised. The manufactured outrage is just talking points to try and get the Left more Power…that is what they are all about.

the serious outrage is that the State put on such dubious witnesses that they mostly contradicted themselves. Rachel was pretty much a set up deal from Crump to get the ball rolling…there was never a case, just wishcasting by the left…and the fantasy that this was another Emmett Till. But it was all about power…mostly about Guns…SYG and Gun Control.

Sadly, i don’t think the Rs have much of a stomach for any fights..look back at the ZH chart.

r keller on July 14, 2013 at 8:27 PM

Take 15 minutes or so and read the nonsense by Andrew Cohen in The Atlantic.

It’s absurd. He leaves out 90% of what happened.

And then he ridiculously cites the self-defense laws of Florida which are no different than 49 other states as the problem. Only Ohio’s self defense law differs from the rest of the nation.

SteveMG on July 14, 2013 at 8:28 PM

Trayvon Martin shooting

Story: Thousands protest in New York, rallies in other cities against Zimmerman verdict – @Reuters

1 min ago from http://www.trust.org by editor
==========================================

http://www.trust.org/item/20130715002204-drgme

canopfor on July 14, 2013 at 8:28 PM

Rep. Chakah Fattah (D-Penn.) particularly lamented the fact that George Zimmerman will get his gun back. And he was worried about the standard that the verdict will set: “If someone tells you not to follow a kid, then you follow him, and you get out of your car, and you shoot him and you kill him, then that’s okay.”

Please tell me someone set this idiot straight on what the facts were.

Good answer Governor Perry

The gnashing of teeth over this is getting to be a bit much. Glad to see that GZ’s lawyers are going after NBC. Hope they win millions.

gophergirl on July 14, 2013 at 8:28 PM

America……VOID OF COMMON SENSE.

I’m telling you I wouldn’t be surprised if his birthday becomes a national holiday at this rate.

TEMPLE HILLS, Md. -

A number of churches nationwide declared today ‘Hoodie Sunday‘ in honor of Trayvon Martin. Reverend Tony Lee of the Community of Hope A.M.E. Church in Temple Hills, Maryland delivered his sermon in a hooded sweatshirt. While the six women of the jury in Florida said George Zimmerman was acting in self-defense when he shot Martin, many in Lee’s congregation are not convinced. There is outrage and disappointment among many members of the black community.

Lee said, “I don’t want this kind of stuff to happen to another one of our children.” He mentioned the election of President Obama and said that each time we have progress it’s met with push-back. He encouraged everyone at the service to keep moving forward.

“We have to hold the nation accountable but we also have to hold accountable the people who are shaping culture and shaping the atmosphere in which a young man could be dehumanized. Some of that comes from outside but some comes from our own community.” Following the sermon, Lee held a recruiting drive for the church’s Social Justice Ministry, which works to combat community violence and improve education and health services

http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/22837515/hoodie-sunday-honors-trayvon-martin#axzz2Z3yeIQr2

PappyD61 on July 14, 2013 at 8:29 PM

Hoping and praying Zimmerman remains safe and alive…

OmahaConservative on July 14, 2013 at 8:29 PM

I have to tell you, talk about creepy crackers, Angela Corey was scary on TV last night.

Cindy Munford on July 14, 2013 at 8:29 PM

SOS,where in New York,is 6TH Avenue??

I’m trying to secure The New York Police Online Scanner!

http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/ctid/1855

canopfor on July 14, 2013 at 8:30 PM

After interviewing nearly three dozen people in the George Zimmerman murder case, the FBI found no evidence that racial bias was a motivating factor in the shooting of Trayvon Martin, records released Thursday show.

Even the lead detective in the case, Sanford Det. Chris Serino, told agents that he thought Zimmerman profiled Trayvon because of his attire and the circumstances — but not his race.

Serino saw Zimmerman as “having little hero complex, but not as a racist.”

The Duval County State Attorney released another collection of evidence in the Zimmerman murder case Thursday, including reports from FBI agents who investigated whether any racial bias was involved in Trayvon’s Feb. 26 killing.

The evidence includes bank surveillance videos from the day of the killing, crime scene photos and memos from prosecutors.

Among the documents is a note from the prosecutor who said one of the witnesses said her son, a minor, had felt pressured by investigators to say the injured man he saw was wearing a red top. The boy’s testimony had been considered key, because it backed up Zimmerman’s allegation that he — wearing red — was being pummeled.

Federal agents interviewed Zimmerman’s neighbors and co-workers, but none said Zimmerman had expressed racial animus at any time prior to the Feb. 26 shooting of Martin, a black teen, in a confrontation at a Sanford housing complex. As Sanford police investigated the circumstances of Martin’s death, the FBI opened a parallel probe to determine if Martin’s civil rights had been violated.

Several co-workers said they had never seen Zimmerman display any prejudice or racial bias.

Two co-workers told agents they spoke with Zimmerman the day after the shooting, and both said they noticed injuries to Zimmerman’s nose and the back of his head. One person said Zimmerman was “absolutely devastated.”

Zimmerman told both colleagues that he followed Martin — whom Zimmerman described as a “suspicious person” — so he could tell police where the teen went, but was then “jumped” by Martin. Zimmerman told both that Martin reached for Zimmerman’s gun before Zimmerman shot Martin.

Drudge link

Wethal on July 14, 2013 at 8:31 PM

[W]hat comes next, surely, is a wrongful death civil action for money damages brought against Zimmerman by the Martin family.

776.032 Immunity from criminal prosecution and civil action for justifiable use of force.

(1) A person who uses force as permitted in s. 776.012, s. 776.013, or s. 776.031 is justified in using such force and is immune from criminal prosecution and civil action for the use of such force, unless the person against whom force was used is a law enforcement officer, as defined in s. 943.10(14), who was acting in the performance of his or her official duties and the officer identified himself or herself in accordance with any applicable law or the person using force knew or reasonably should have known that the person was a law enforcement officer. As used in this subsection, the term “criminal prosecution” includes arresting, detaining in custody, and charging or prosecuting the defendant.

(2) A law enforcement agency may use standard procedures for investigating the use of force as described in subsection (1), but the agency may not arrest the person for using force unless it determines that there is probable cause that the force that was used was unlawful.

(3) The court shall award reasonable attorney’s fees, court costs, compensation for loss of income, and all expenses incurred by the defendant in defense of any civil action brought by a plaintiff if the court finds that the defendant is immune from prosecution as provided in subsection (1).

Resist We Much on July 14, 2013 at 8:31 PM

[NotCoach on July 14, 2013 at 8:25 PM]

You’re right. But it doesn’t hurt one whit to have the FBI say he did not do what they want him charged with.

Dusty on July 14, 2013 at 8:32 PM

Take 15 minutes or so and read the nonsense by Andrew Cohen in The Atlantic.

It’s absurd. He leaves out 90% of what happened.

And then he ridiculously cites the self-defense laws of Florida which are no different than 49 other states as the problem. Only Ohio’s self defense law differs from the rest of the nation.

SteveMG on July 14, 2013 at 8:28 PM

None of Trayvon’s defenders are getting the facts out straight…

Anti-Control on July 14, 2013 at 8:33 PM

Hoping and praying Zimmerman remains safe and alive…

OmahaConservative on July 14, 2013 at 8:29 PM

He needs to go to a nice small town in Wyoming/South Dakota/Idaho etc and live out his life. I think that’s his only chance to live a life without having to look over his shoulder 24/7. He definitely shouldn’t stay in Florida.

gophergirl on July 14, 2013 at 8:33 PM

Rep. Chakah Fattah (D-Penn.) particularly lamented the fact that George Zimmerman will get his gun back. And he was worried about the standard that the verdict will set: “If someone tells you not to follow a kid, then you follow him, and you get out of your car, and you shoot him and you kill him, then that’s okay.”

Please tell me someone set this idiot straight on what the facts were.

Good answer Governor Perry

The gnashing of teeth over this is getting to be a bit much. Glad to see that GZ’s lawyers are going after NBC. Hope they win millions.

gophergirl on July 14, 2013 at 8:28 PM

Unlikely. No one with a D by their name is going to be concerned with the facts.

Bitter Clinger on July 14, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Hoping and praying Zimmerman remains safe and alive…

OmahaConservative on July 14, 2013 at 8:29 PM

+1

Same goes for the jurors, and everyone else who’s been threatened by Trayvon’s goon squad…

Anti-Control on July 14, 2013 at 8:34 PM

SOS,where in New York,is 6TH Avenue??

[canopfor on July 14, 2013 at 8:30 PM]

Between 5th and 7th.

(Sorry, I couldn’t resist.)

Dusty on July 14, 2013 at 8:34 PM

If Zimmerman’s guilt is so ‘obvious’, why did the media feel need to doctor photos and edit tape recordings? Evidence speaks for itself. It doesn’t need the media to pitch in and help it along.

Liam on July 14, 2013 at 8:35 PM

He needs to go to a nice small town in Wyoming/South Dakota/Idaho etc and live out his life. I think that’s his only chance to live a life without having to look over his shoulder 24/7. He definitely shouldn’t stay in Florida.

gophergirl on July 14, 2013 at 8:33 PM

Idaho is a great place…
He can be my neighbor…
Though we have no need for a neighborhood watch…
He can just relax…

Electrongod on July 14, 2013 at 8:35 PM

the FBI found no evidence that racial bias was a motivating factor in the shooting of Trayvon Martin,

Let me get this straight…

If GZ called the guy some racist name, GZ should have let the guy beat him to death?

This country is too far gone, I’m afraid.

faraway on July 14, 2013 at 8:35 PM

SOS,where in New York,is 6TH Avenue??

I’m trying to secure The New York Police Online Scanner!

http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/ctid/1855

canopfor on July 14, 2013 at 8:30 PM

It’s on Google Earth….
your monitor behind you and to the left..
Monitor 3B….
you turned it off this morning…

Electrongod on July 14, 2013 at 8:36 PM

The state of America today.

All you have to do is defend yourself, your family your faith or the truth and you risk half the nation coming down on you. You risk being arrested and the government coming after you. You will be made a monster by the media and thousands will march and riot in the streets and demand your life! You children will be threatened with decapitation! People you have never met will curse your name.

All because you defended yourself or the truth.

America is a great place today.

JellyToast on July 14, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Potential silver lining in all of this? Out of control DoJ prosecutes and convicts Zimmerman for civil rights violations and forces SCOTUS to come to its senses concerning the double jeopardy nature of civil rights convictions.

NotCoach on July 14, 2013 at 8:21 PM

Benedict Roberts’ SCOTASS?? LOL.

I would add, though, that the feds persecuting someone on “civil rights” violations because they didn’t get the state conviction they wanted is far worse than mere double jeopardy … but Benedict Roberts would say that it’s just a tax on freedom and, therefore, the feral government can do it all it wants, for any reason it wants.

This is life in the American Socialist Superstate.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 14, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Resist We Much on July 14, 2013 at 8:31 PM

This is pretty confusing, Zimmerman’s lawyer said last night that they would make sure that he was free of any chance of a civil lawsuit. Someone here mentioned that that was part of the “Stand Your Ground” legislation but Instapundit said that that law was never invoked for the defense of Mr. Zimmerman.

Cindy Munford on July 14, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Idaho is a great place…
He can be my neighbor…
Though we have no need for a neighborhood watch…
He can just relax…

Electrongod on July 14, 2013 at 8:35 PM

He can study to be what he wants and he won’t have the goon squad following him and I include the media in that. They are afraid of fly over country “cooties”.

I hope he can find some peace and live a semi normal life.

gophergirl on July 14, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.)

Sadly, she is our best senator.

I am surprised she poked her head up on this, as her usual instinct is to be invisible and champion things like sunrise and puppies.

If Gopher Girl is lurking around here tonight she might have something to add.

Bruno Strozek on July 14, 2013 at 8:38 PM

Black man shoots and kills unarmed Hispanic teenager. DOJ did not investigate whether the black man deprived the Hispanic teen of his civil rights (he didn’t).

Fort Myers killing suspect likely off hook: Attorney says his client acted in self-defense

The manslaughter charge was dismissed.

And, Eric Holder, Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc, did not call for a civil rights prosecution against Adeirean Carey.

Resist We Much on July 14, 2013 at 8:38 PM

also..last night i watched a little of cnn and one of their leftist lawyers said something about how not too many black people would be able to have the defense that zimmerman had.

aside from the many layers of mendacity that are embedded in that, i think it is worth reflecting on the Crits again.

Critical race theory, white privilege, etc. are deeply embedded in the fabric of our country. The country has had waves of ‘intellectuals’ aiming to change the country. Soviets, the neo-Marxists like Marcuse, the New Left, and the Crits. (ok, i know that is just a short list)..but the point is that they hold power. The power to call the tune..and thus the surreal Twitchy pages today. Even Kirsten Powers can’t understand

in medicine that is called metastasis

r keller on July 14, 2013 at 8:38 PM

gophergirl on July 14, 2013 at 8:37 PM

Ha! Just saw you are lurking!

Bruno Strozek on July 14, 2013 at 8:39 PM

None of Trayvon’s defenders are getting the facts out straight…

Anti-Control on July 14, 2013 at 8:33 PM

They got their story and their sticking with it. I sure hope Zimmerman sues NBC for their creative editing and broadcasting of the 9-11 call.

Cindy Munford on July 14, 2013 at 8:39 PM

SOS,where in New York,is 6TH Avenue??

[canopfor on July 14, 2013 at 8:30 PM]

Between 5th and 7th.

(Sorry, I couldn’t resist.)

Dusty on July 14, 2013 at 8:34 PM

Dusty:Smarty Pants,looks like I’ll have to consult a map!:)

canopfor on July 14, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Medger Evers + Emmett Till = Trayvon Martin.

BallisticBob on July 14, 2013 at 8:40 PM

Robert Zimmerman: Sharpton ‘Damaged the Fabric of Our Society’

On early Sunday morning, Breitbart News spoke with Robert Zimmerman, brother of George Zimmerman. In response to media coverage from media outlets like MSNBC and Huffington Post decrying the verdict, Robert Zimmerman stated:

“The hallmark of our judicial system is a trial by jury of your peers. People called for George’s arrest and called for him to have his day in court, and both of those things have come to pass. The hallmark of our society is the rule of law. It should go without saying that respecting the rule of law and the outcome, this verdict, is our duty.”

Zimmerman also said that he agreed with defense attorney Mark O’Mara, who said that his brother, George, would not have been arrested were he black:

“I would have to agree with Mr. O’Mara. It’s hard to tell in hindsight what would or would not have happened if any other race had been involved, but certainly at the beginning of the narrative coming to light from Mr. Benjamin Crump and Ms. Natalie Jackson, it was clear that they wanted race front and center in their narrative and did a disservice to our country as a result.”

Zimmerman also expressed disappointment with Al Sharpton, who led protests back in March 2012 calling for George Zimmerman’s arrest, and who called the verdict “an atrocity” on MSNBC Saturday night:

“In my opinion, the support we have received from the black community has been particularly inspiring,” Robert said. “I think that it’s time to pass the baton, as it were, to the new face of equality — equality that is colorblind and that is based on the rule of law rather than the weight of the race card. Mr. Sharpton has done enough damage to the fabric of our society by constantly injecting race into every dialogue and constantly taking the position that everyone who disagrees with him might be a racist or have racist inclinations, including the Sanford Police Department, the state attorney office in Sanford, and my brother and his family.”

Resist We Much on July 14, 2013 at 8:41 PM

If Gopher Girl is lurking around here tonight she might have something to add.

Bruno Strozek on July 14, 2013 at 8:38 PM

She was a terrible county prosecutor. Just awful. I sometimes wonder if she was gifted her degree.

Yes but sadly she’s better than Franken. That’s scary when you think about it.

gophergirl on July 14, 2013 at 8:41 PM

I hope he can find some peace and live a semi normal life.

gophergirl on July 14, 2013 at 8:37 PM

So do I, darlin’ so do I…

OmahaConservative on July 14, 2013 at 8:41 PM

Never underestimate the value of first impressions. Once established, they become etched in stone. It started with NBC News declaring that a Caucasian hurling racial epithets had gunned down an unarmed, “innocent”, 17 bold black teenager and through not terribly skillful editing, NBC “proved” it.

The terms INNOCENT and CAUCASIAN stuck albeit both are not only lies but DAMNED LIES.

The mystery to me is why aren’t Hispanics and Jews complaining of discrimination? Total silence.

MaiDee on July 14, 2013 at 8:42 PM

Man Set Free in Teen’s Racially Charged Death

ALBANY, N.Y. – New York Gov. David Paterson commuted the sentence Thursday of a black man imprisoned for the racially charged shooting death of a white teenager on Long Island, a decision in the final days of his administration that infuriated the lawyer who prosecuted the case.

Paterson said the five months John Harris White has served was enough time for the emotion-fueled 2006 shooting death of Daniel Cicciaro, 17. Paterson said everybody connected with the case had suffered enough, and White was released Thursday.

White teenagers were feuding with John White’s 19-year-old son when they went by the carload to their home in August 2006. White was convicted of manslaughter for shooting one of the teenagers at the foot of White’s driveway, in what he referred to as a lynch mob.

A judge sentenced White to two to four years in prison, a fraction of the maximum, exactly four years ago Thursday. He finally went to prison in July this year after his appeals were rejected.

Cicciaro’s father, Daniel Sr., screamed at the verdict after the four-week trial: “Let’s see what happens when Aaron White gets shot.”

White arrived at his home early Thursday afternoon.

“Merry Christmas,” said a smiling White, according to the New York Daily News. “I’m definitely glad to be home with my family for Christmas, and I hope everyone has a pleasant and happy holiday.”

“He is happy to be spending this very special Christmas with his family,” said White’s lawyer, Paul Gianelli. He wouldn’t say whether White had sought a pardon.

“The only thing that matters right now is his personal liberty and his ability to rejoin his family,” Gianelli said. “The case is finished. It’s over and done with.”

Suffolk County District Attorney Thomas J. Spota blasted Paterson for the way he handled his decision.

“I strongly believe the governor should have had the decency and the compassion to at least contact the victim’s family to allow them to be heard before commuting the defendant’s sentence,” Spota said.

Spota said a court, upheld by an appellate court, agreed that a reasonable person wouldn’t have believed deadly force was needed that hot summer night.

Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, the NAACP, etc, did not call for the DOJ to prosecute White for depriving (the racist) Cicciaro’s civil rights.

Resist We Much on July 14, 2013 at 8:44 PM

OmahaConservative on July 14, 2013 at 8:41 PM gophergirl on July 14, 2013 at 8:37 PM

You know that he didn’t want to shoot that kid but he didn’t want to die either. I bet he struggles with that for the rest of his life.

Cindy Munford on July 14, 2013 at 8:46 PM

Dusty:Smarty Pants,looks like I’ll have to consult a map!:)

[canopfor on July 14, 2013 at 8:40 PM]

If you want to know the geographical location, it’s on the very west end of Long Island in Brooklyn, tucked just underneath Manhattan Island and around a mile from the river. It runs N-S and is just east of Flatbush and Atlantic.

But it runs a very long way, right down to the mouth of the river.

That’s the best I can do.

Dusty on July 14, 2013 at 8:46 PM

canopfor on July 14, 2013 at 8:30 PM

It’s on Google Earth….
your monitor behind you and to the left..
Monitor 3B….
you turned it off this morning…

Electrongod on July 14, 2013 at 8:36 PM

Electrongod:

D*mmitt,moniter3B,was keeping an eye on my Canadian Commando Beaver
training,they switched it,………………curses!
(sarc).

canopfor on July 14, 2013 at 8:48 PM

You know that he didn’t want to shoot that kid but he didn’t want to die either. I bet he struggles with that for the rest of his life.

Cindy Munford on July 14, 2013 at 8:46 PM

Of course he will and he’ll probably never resolve it in his mind or forgive himself for the rest of his life.

gophergirl on July 14, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Try this link, Canopfor

Dusty on July 14, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Jizra:

Arabic Media: Secret $8 billion deal between Obama and the Muslim Brotherhood

http://www.israpundit.com/archives/56436

davidk on July 14, 2013 at 8:50 PM

D*mmitt,moniter3B,was keeping an eye on my Canadian Commando Beaver
training,they switched it,………………curses!
(sarc).

canopfor on July 14, 2013 at 8:48 PM

LOL…

Electrongod on July 14, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Trayvon Martin’s shooting was an ideologically useful tragedy, and so the vultures did their worst.

That’s the entire story in a nutshell. Trayvon was a useful idiot and not one of the Zimmerman haters could have cared less about Trayvon if a black dude had killed him for his tennis shoes. Black kids are dropping like flies in Chicago every day by black men’s hands. Where’s the outrage?

HotAirian on July 14, 2013 at 8:51 PM

The bad news is that no matter how many times Zimmerman is hauled into court, we will never know the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth about what happened that terrible night.

Right, keep trying him, either in criminal court for federal civil rights chargers, in civil court for damages and in the court of public opinion until you get the result you want. I’m quite sure that if Zimmerman was convicted they’d be saying that the truth won out.

rokemronnie on July 14, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Aftermath? What Aftermath?

Are we talking about the gastrointestinal aftershocks of Candy Crowley’s Cookie-Dough Ice Cream Binge?

williamg on July 14, 2013 at 8:52 PM

How many hundreds and hundreds of Black youth have been murdered by Blacks in Chicago and any number of other Dem controlled cities across America since Obama was sworn-in in January 2009?

And how many DoJ investigations into these wholesale murders have been inaugurated? How many suits has the NAACP launched to get to the bottom of these wanton murders of Black youth?

Perhaps these “racially sensitive” community leaders truly need to clean their own house before coming into our houses and complaining about the lint under the couch?

coldwarrior on July 14, 2013 at 8:52 PM

I feel just a little safer now that Martin is dead and Zimmerman has been found innocent by reason of self-defense. By his own words, from years ago, Jessie Jackson said as much himself.

VorDaj on July 14, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Of course the deadly meeting last year between Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman had at its core a racial element.

Yes, why do blacks have such an irrational and bigoted hatred for hispanics?

Fenris on July 14, 2013 at 8:54 PM

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canopfor on July 14, 2013 at 8:54 PM

Medger Evers + Emmett Till = Trayvon Martin.

BallisticBob on July 14, 2013 at 8:40 PM

HAH?!!

Hood Punk + OJ Simpson = Trayvon Martin

williamg on July 14, 2013 at 8:54 PM

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