Quotes of the day

posted at 8:31 pm on July 13, 2013 by Allahpundit

As Zimmerman’s trial closed Friday, his defense lawyer declared in summation that the unarmed Martin was to blame .

“We know he had the opportunity to go home, and he didn’t do that,” Mark O’Mara said, brazenly turning the world on its head . “The person who decided to make the night violent was the guy who didn’t go home when he had the chance.”…

Prosecutors poked holes in this story — noting, for example, that Zimmerman’s modest head wounds were hardly consistent with the violent struggle he described. But, since no one else alive witnessed the fight, the only word anyone has is the killer’s. Plus his lawyer’s blame-the-victim contention that everything went wrong because Martin didn’t just walk home.

After Zimmerman groundlessly presumed the worst about a teenager who was doing nothing wrong. After Zimmerman took it upon himself to play cop after the real cops had told him to stand down. After Zimmerman brought a gun to a confrontation that could easily escalate into a fatality.

Whatever the jury’s verdict, Zimmerman started it that night — and finished it with a bullet.

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I, for one, would not convict George Zimmerman of second-degree murder. I might find him guilty of manslaughter, but even that would be a stretch based on the evidence presented to that Sanford, Fla. jury.

Still, contrary to what George Zimmerman’s lead attorney asserts, “not guilty” — should that be the jury’s verdict — is not the same as “absolute innocence” in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, the teenager he mistakenly assumed to be a menace to society, or, at least, to the residents of a Florida community where he volunteered in a neighborhood patrol…

Zimmerman was wrong in his assumptions, wrong in his attitude, wrong in ignoring the advice of the police dispatcher to stay put and wait for the police to come, wrong in confronting Trayvon, wrong in shooting him, wrong in lying about what transpired. That said, however, he may not be guilty of murder. Under Florida law, a reasonable jury relying on its common sense can reasonably find that, as he tussled with Trayvon, he feared for his life and shot in self defense. That he resorted to deadly force because he actually believed he faced “death or great bodily harm.” That he acted as “a reasonably prudent and cautious person” would have done in those circumstances.

In the view from my armchair couch potato juror’s seat, prosecutors did not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that George Zimmerman, as wrong as he was in what he did that rainy February night, committed murder.

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Just when I thought the George Zimmerman “trial” couldn’t sink any lower, the prosecutorial limbo dancers of the State of Florida magnificently lowered their own bar in the final moments of their cable-news celebrity. In real justice systems, the state decides what crime has been committed and charges somebody with it. In the Zimmerman trial, the state’s “theory of the case” is that it has no theory of the case: might be murder, might be manslaughter, might be aggravated assault, might be a zillion other things, but it’s something. If you’re a juror, feel free to convict George Zimmerman of whatever floats your boat.

Nailing a guy on something, anything, is a time-honored American tradition: If you can’t get Al Capone on the Valentine’s Day massacre, get him on his taxes. Americans seem to have a sneaky admiration for this sort of thing, notwithstanding that, as we now know, the government is happy to get lots of other people on their taxes, too. Ever since the president of the United States (a man so cautious and deferential to legal niceties that he can’t tell you whether the Egyptian army removing the elected head of state counts as a military coup until his advisers have finished looking into the matter) breezily declared that if he had a son he’d look like Trayvon, ever since the U.S. Department of so-called Justice dispatched something called its “Community Relations Services” to Florida to help organize anti-Zimmerman rallies at taxpayer expense, ever since the politically savvy governor appointed a “special prosecutor” and the deplorably unsavvy Sanford Police Chief was eased out, the full panoply of state power has been deployed to nail Zimmerman on anything.

How difficult can that be in a country in which an Hispanic Obama voter can be instantly transformed into the poster boy for white racism? Who ya gonna believe — Al Sharpton or your lying eyes? As closing arguments began on Thursday, the prosecutors asked the judge to drop the aggravated-assault charge and instruct the jury on felony murder committed in the course of child abuse. Felony murder is a murder that occurs during a felony, and, according to the prosecution’s theory du jour, the felony George Zimmerman was engaged in that night was “child abuse,” on the grounds that Trayvon Martin, when he began beating up Zimmerman, was 17 years old. This will come as news to most casual observers of the case, who’ve only seen young Trayvon in that beatific photo of him as a twelve-year-old…

We have been warned that in the event of an acquittal there could be riots. My own feeling is that the Allegedly Reverend Al Sharpton, now somewhat emaciated and underbouffed from his Tawana Brawley heyday, is not the Tahrir Square–scale race-baiting huckster he once was. But if Floridians are of a mind to let off a little steam, they might usefully burn down the Sanford courthouse and salt the earth. The justice system revealed by this squalid trial is worth rioting over.

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RedCrow on July 14, 2013 at 2:06 AM

The Glade is alive and well, flourishing with wizards, sprites, and even our own resident mermaid, Pambi. :)

Good to see you back, Redcrow. Good evening. :)

thatsafactjack on July 14, 2013 at 2:13 AM

Because she can Make Us Feel Her Love!!

williamg on July 14, 2013 at 2:14 AM

RedCrow on July 14, 2013 at 2:06 AM

Good evening..Great to see you stranger!..:)

Dire Straits on July 14, 2013 at 2:14 AM

Dire Straits on July 14, 2013 at 2:12 AM

Let’s hope so, Dire. They are scurrilous, calculated, conniving, chiseling vermin for what they tried to do to Zimmerman with that tape. They deserve to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

thatsafactjack on July 14, 2013 at 2:15 AM

I’m so sick and tired of hearing about this being a tragedy, about some teenager getting shot to death in the dark and in the rain.

This was about a man protecting his own life against attack. That’s what the jury found, for sure, an all-woman jury, for that matter, only one of which didn’t have children.

Tell me why it was a tragedy. It was a case of self-protection in the midst of combat. Okay, a perp died in the process, and who cares who or what he was?

You mess with me, you’re lucky if you get a hot one in the heart right away. Slow death is my preference.

TXUS on July 14, 2013 at 2:15 AM

Nite Jackie, and you do too.

Great night!

Schadenfreude on July 14, 2013 at 2:16 AM

The hip hop culture is littered with absolute gimp brained dolts. Cripes a parking meter has a higher IQ than the neuron challenged hip hop gangster illiterates.

SparkPlug on July 14, 2013 at 2:18 AM

thatsafactjack on July 14, 2013 at 2:15 AM

Agreed..:)

Dire Straits on July 14, 2013 at 2:18 AM

I must be losing my mind..Geraldo is making “half sense” tonight..I’m amazed..:)

Dire Straits on July 14, 2013 at 2:21 AM

Resist We Much on July 14, 2013 at 2:16 AM

Bwaaahh. Obama stepped in it when he said that if he had a son he would be like ice tea skittles purple drank stoner Martin.

SparkPlug on July 14, 2013 at 2:21 AM

Dire Straits on July 14, 2013 at 2:21 AM

WTH? Impossible. (:

SparkPlug on July 14, 2013 at 2:22 AM

In The Air Tonight – Collins

thatsafactjack on July 14, 2013 at 2:24 AM

thatsafactjack on July 14, 2013 at 2:15 AM

“Chiseling vermin” Good one. You are very Shiny.

SparkPlug on July 14, 2013 at 2:24 AM

If I had another son, he’d look like George Zimmerman.

TXUS on July 14, 2013 at 2:26 AM

williamg on July 14, 2013 at 2:24 AM

lol! You’re very sweet, williamg. :)

thatsafactjack on July 14, 2013 at 2:27 AM

SparkPlug on July 14, 2013 at 2:24 AM

I just got out of the pool. It must be the moonlight. :)

thatsafactjack on July 14, 2013 at 2:27 AM

thatsafactjack on July 14, 2013 at 2:13 AM
Dire Straits on July 14, 2013 at 2:14 AM

Thanks to you both.
I started that new job in January.
Been working my ass off–quite a few “all-nighters”.
Lurked a few times–but, when I’ve slept I’ve been to bed Early!
Just bought a new house at the start of June. Moving. Cleaning. Cursing. Bleeding. Cleaning (It was a dirty F-ing place, mind).

(Kinda missed you guys. <> <>) Lol!

I didn’t have the internet for the entire month of June. I haven’t had a television since February. So, I’ve been quite blissfully ignorant of our impending doom as a nation.

The doom is still impending, but I’ve been cool and relaxed. It proves the axiom, “Ignorance is bliss.” :)

RedCrow on July 14, 2013 at 2:28 AM

Against All Odds – Collins

thatsafactjack on July 14, 2013 at 2:29 AM

RedCrow on July 14, 2013 at 2:28 AM

In the angle brackets it said:
“red-faced” and “tear rolling down face”.

(I meant to preview. I thought it would vomit on the angle brackets!)

RedCrow on July 14, 2013 at 2:30 AM

RedCrow on July 14, 2013 at 2:28 AM

Very glad the job is going well. Congratulations on the new house! Kinda missed you, too. :) Welcome back. :)

thatsafactjack on July 14, 2013 at 2:31 AM

OT, but, hey …
SOME of us have Grands who follow the celebs, so this might be pertinent …

http://www.tmz.com/

Dang !!

pambi on July 14, 2013 at 2:32 AM

Tenderly – Chet Baker

thatsafactjack on July 14, 2013 at 2:33 AM

williamg on July 14, 2013 at 2:24 AM

lol! You’re very sweet, williamg. :)

thatsafactjack on July 14, 2013 at 2:27 AM

: )

…….anything for our Blessed Moon Goddess as she Bestows her Gifts of Love on us all!!

God Bless you, Jackie!

williamg on July 14, 2013 at 2:34 AM

williamg on July 14, 2013 at 2:34 AM

:) And you, too, williamg.

thatsafactjack on July 14, 2013 at 2:36 AM

thatsafactjack on July 14, 2013 at 2:31 AM

Thanks. :)
And, to Dire, too, for remembering me.

Now, I gotta stop drinkin’ the “pops” (as Mickey Redmond would say), and go to sleep, cuz I gotta do some work for that job (all day) tomorrow! (Er–today–Sunday, I mean.)

Night, all.

RedCrow on July 14, 2013 at 2:37 AM

Poor Trayvon…

Radiohead – “Just”

You do it to yourself, just you
You and no one else
You do it to yourself
You do it to yourself

Anti-Control on July 14, 2013 at 2:38 AM

RedCrow on July 14, 2013 at 2:37 AM

Goodnight, RedCrow. Sleep well. See you soon. :)

thatsafactjack on July 14, 2013 at 2:39 AM

What — no trolls?

Liam on July 14, 2013 at 2:41 AM

Poor Trayvon…

Radiohead – “Just”

You do it to yourself, just you
You and no one else
You do it to yourself
You do it to yourself

Anti-Control on July 14, 2013 at 2:38 AM

Never mess with a man you do not know.

Liam on July 14, 2013 at 2:42 AM

SparkPlug on July 14, 2013 at 2:22 AM

I know..I feel like a stranger..:)

Dire Straits on July 14, 2013 at 2:43 AM

Why Worry – Dire Straits

I bid you all a fond goodnight. It’s been a pleasure, as always.

Live in the moment.

“Keep yourselves where the light is.”

thatsafactjack on July 14, 2013 at 2:43 AM

I’m really amazed that shitass judge didn’t berate the jury for its verdict.

Liam on July 14, 2013 at 2:45 AM

Never mess with a man you do not know.

Liam on July 14, 2013 at 2:42 AM

Wise people understand this – (thankfully dead) idiots like Trayvon didn’t…

I’m really amazed that shitass judge didn’t berate the jury for its verdict.

Liam on July 14, 2013 at 2:45 AM

haha I think it’s great how GZ & his defense team escaped the concerted effort to railroad him – I can’t wait to see how the payback unfolds! :)

Anti-Control on July 14, 2013 at 2:52 AM

RedCrow on July 14, 2013 at 2:37 AM

Good Deal..Glad to see you like your new job!!..Hope to see you posting more often!!..:)

PS..Tigers are doing well so far..:)

Dire Straits on July 14, 2013 at 2:54 AM

Black Flag – “Revenge”

Anti-Control on July 14, 2013 at 2:56 AM

The Kinks – Revenge”

Anti-Control on July 14, 2013 at 2:58 AM

….oh – and my SHYGF says: Good Night!

williamg on July 14, 2013 at 3:00 AM

My favorite part of the trial was his girlfriend. She was pure comedy gold.

newportmike on July 14, 2013 at 3:06 AM

Angel Dust – “Marching for Revenge”

\m/

Anti-Control on July 14, 2013 at 3:07 AM

Liberals say they need to ‘avenge’ Trayvon?

How about we avenge Zimmerman?

Liam on July 14, 2013 at 3:10 AM

My favorite part of the trial was his girlfriend. She was pure comedy gold.

newportmike on July 14, 2013 at 3:06 AM

There was nothing funny about her.

She fit every stereotype there is.

Liam on July 14, 2013 at 3:11 AM

…threadkiller.

equanimous on July 14, 2013 at 3:23 AM

Liberals say they need to ‘avenge’ Trayvon?

How about we avenge Zimmerman?

Liam on July 14, 2013 at 3:10 AM

One of my favorite punk bands (how can you not like one that trashes union membership? :))

The Avengers – “Open Your Eyes”

At first I thought you were dead
But now I see you’re one of the rest
They drugged you with muzak and TV sedation
You’re one of the blank generation

[chorus]
Open your eyes, open your eyes
You don’t see what’s going on, come on
Open your eyes, open your eyes
You watch TV to find out what’s right and wrong yeah
Open your eyes
Well, they tell you lies and you sing along
Open your eyes to what you respected
Open your eyes, and you can reject it

I want to upset you, want to make you think
But you eat all their sh!t, it makes your breath stink
Gonna get a job and join a f*ckin’ union
That way you know, nothing’s gonna happen

[chorus]

Like lemmings you run towards destruction
You can’t stop the stream of corruption
Oh, I see, you’ve been blind
You better make up your mind, now

[chorus]

Oh, open your eyes
Oh, open your eyes

Anti-Control on July 14, 2013 at 3:26 AM

My favorite part of the trial was his girlfriend. She was pure comedy gold.

newportmike on July 14, 2013 at 3:06 AM

That’s real retarded, sir.

Anti-Control on July 14, 2013 at 3:28 AM

Old white people in Florida carry guns too. Not just creepy assed white hispanic crakka’s.

Oldnuke on July 13, 2013 at 11:23 PM

Why, yes, yes they do. And you never know which one. (snickers)

katy the mean old lady on July 14, 2013 at 7:18 AM

Obama and Holder will be so disappointed if there are no riots.
Surely they can bus in some SEIU goons or someone.

justltl on July 14, 2013 at 7:20 AM

Roman also found that Stand Your Ground laws tend to track the existing racial disparities in homicide convictions across the U.S. — with one significant exception: Whites who kill blacks in Stand Your Ground states are far more likely to be found justified in their killings. In non-Stand Your Ground states, whites are 250 percent more likely to be found justified in killing a black person than a white person who kills another white person; in Stand Your Ground states, that number jumps to 354 percent.

http://io9.com/disturbing-chart-shows-rise-in-justified-killings-of-773490798

That’s all I have for y’all on this topic. I’m going to work within communities of like minded folks to oppose what happened in this trial.

libfreeordie on July 14, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Well, like our white/black president said, “if I had a son he would look like Trayvon”. Without the large ears of course.

Herb on July 14, 2013 at 11:11 AM

I’m going to work within communities of like minded folks to oppose what happened in this trial.

libfreeorgan on July 14, 2013 at 10:23 AM

…I’ll be busy with bigots!

KOOLAID2 on July 14, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Obama and Holder will be so disappointed if there are no riots.
Surely they can bus in some SEIU goons or someone.

justltl on July 14, 2013 at 7:20 AM

That would be kinda funny since most of them are hispanic…

workingclass artist on July 14, 2013 at 12:25 PM

The under reported story is that Martin’s Daddy was into the THUG culture…

just like the son.

workingclass artist on July 14, 2013 at 12:27 PM

I’m going to work within communities of like minded folks to oppose what happened in this trial.

libfreeordie on July 14, 2013 at 10:23 AM

You’re consistently a bigot, racist and fool.

Do you recall this much stupidity when OJ was foun “not guilty”.

Plus, if a black would have killed a black the case would never have made the news.

Go to Hell.

Schadenfreude on July 14, 2013 at 12:47 PM

The smallest man in America is obama.

Schadenfreude on July 14, 2013 at 12:47 PM

found

Schadenfreude on July 14, 2013 at 12:48 PM

The under reported story is that Martin’s Daddy was into the THUG culture…

just like the son.

workingclass artist on July 14, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Every time a minority punk gets killed by a cop or armed citizen, his mammy is front and center for the cameras crying for the menace to the community she spawned, who I’d bet would’ve traded for a week’s supply of crack and Budweiser the month before.

The media is neck-deep in actively portraying punks and scum as choirboys.

MelonCollie on July 14, 2013 at 12:50 PM

I’m going to work within communities of like minded folks to oppose what happened in this trial.
libfreeordie on July 14, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Joining up with the Black Panthers, Perfesser?

LegendHasIt on July 14, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Look at all these comments!!!!!!

Cindy Munford on July 14, 2013 at 1:16 PM

I’m going to work within communities of like minded folks to oppose what happened in this trial.
libfreeordie on July 14, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Joining up with the Black Panthers, Perfesser?

LegendHasIt on July 14, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Maybe the perfesser means that he’ll work to see that there are no more purely political persecutions of white hispanics who defend themselves against murderous, drug-addled thugs.

In the interest of fairness and equal justice for all – regardless of race or ethnicity.

BWAHAHAhahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!! IN A PIG’S EYE!!!

He just sees every other race hustling pimp making a bundle of bucks on this sort of victimology…and he wants him some of that stash.

Solaratov on July 14, 2013 at 2:12 PM

http://io9.com/disturbing-chart-shows-rise-in-justified-killings-of-773490798

That’s all I have for y’all on this topic. I’m going to work within communities of like minded folks to oppose what happened in this trial.

libfreeordie on July 14, 2013 at 10:23 AM

What happened in the trial, or what happened that resulted in the trial?

Axe on July 14, 2013 at 3:03 PM

That’s all I have for y’all on this topic. I’m going to work within communities of like minded folks to oppose what happened in this trial.

libfreeordie on July 14, 2013 at 10:23 AM

I see….so – you’re working with groups of people who OPPOSE the Justice and Trial By A Jury of Our Peers and Innocent Until Proven Guildty system of crminal justice?

I believe they have what you’re all looking for in Iran………

williamg on July 14, 2013 at 4:01 PM

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