Environmentalists ahead of pending Keystone XL report: There will be protests.

posted at 3:21 pm on July 12, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

The unnecessarily complicated and epic saga of what in any sane scenario would be a pretty innocuous pipeline project — the type of which we’re going to more in the coming years to cope with the still-burgeoning shale oil-and-gas boom, by the way — continues apace, as the State Department (ostensibly) prepares to release the final version of its impact review of the Keystone XL pipeline. Never mind that they have already produced multiple impact reports over the past several years attesting that they can’t find any good reason not to build it, and that they’ve been promising to finally release this sucker for months and months and continually pushing back the date; I think, by the latest count, we’re at late-2013/early-2014 for a decision, but I won’t get my hopes up.

In his much-vaunted climate-change address in June, the president tried to reassure his eco-radical contingent that his administration will only approve the Keystone XL pipeline if they find that it “does not significantly exacerbate the problem of carbon pollution.” That, of course, sent everyone concerned into a tizzy wondering just what the heck that’s supposed to mean — whether the “I hear you” message was a hint that they’re getting ready to shut this thing down, or an attempt to soften the eventual blow.

Green groups, however, are preparing for the worst, and would like the Obama administration to know that — in the event of what they interpret as an unfavorable outcome — there will be protests. Via HuffPo:

Environmental groups CREDO, Rainforest Action Network and the Other 98% say they are organizing more than 750 activists to lead mass acts of civil disobedience around the country, should the State Department sign off on the controversial Keystone XL pipeline.

“We will deploy large-scale actions in major cities, and hundreds of activist-led, local distributed actions, with peaceful dignified sit-ins taking place in front of strategic locations,” the groups said in a statement emailed to The Huffington Post.

The advocacy efforts come in advance of the State Department’s pending National Interest Determination, the final step in the pipeline review process before President Barack Obama must make his decision. As of Friday morning, almost 70,000 people had vowed to risk arrest if the State Department recommends the president approve the pipeline, according to the groups’ pledge.

… Targeted areas will include offices for Organizing for Action, a nonprofit advocacy group closely tied to the Obama White House, State Department offices and Canadian embassies, among other locations.

It isn’t so much these fringe protesters motivating the administration’s inexcusable and extraordinary delay, however, as it is the well-monied and self-fancied “green” Democratic donors of the sort that show up to those $35k/plate fundraising dinners. As we await this way-past-due decision and simultaneously try to tolerate its obnoxiously trumped-up importance, it’s probably worth keeping this in mind:

A Pew Research Center survey conducted in mid-March found that 66% of Americans favored building the pipeline while 23% opposed doing so. Support for the pipeline cut across partisan and demographic lines. Substantial majorities of Republicans (82%) and independents (70%) favor building the Keystone XL pipeline, as do 54% of Democrats. Among Democrats, 60% of party moderates and conservatives support the pipeline compared to 42% of liberals.


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Wasn’t Rainforest Action Network in an old episode of South Park?

AndrewsDad on July 12, 2013 at 3:26 PM

750 against, millions for….let them protest but why do we need to hear about it?

Ann on July 12, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Crude oil is subdivided in to ‘Gathering Lines’ and ‘Trunk Lines.’

First, gathering lines are very small pipelines usually from 2 to 8 inches in diameter in the areas of the country in which crude oil is found deep within the earth. It is estimated that there are between 30,000 to 40,000 miles of these small gathering lines located primarily in Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, and Wyoming with small systems in a number of other oil producing states. These small lines gather the oil from many wells, both onshore and offshore, and connect to larger trunk lines measuring from 8 to 24 inches in diameter.

Trunk lines include a few very large lines, such as the Trans Alaska Pipeline System, which is 48 inches in diameter. The larger cross-country crude oil transmission pipelines bring crude oil from producing areas to refineries. There are approximately 55,000 miles of crude oil trunk lines in the U.S.

For more information on crude oil pipelines visit Overview – Crude Oil Pipelines.

The next group of oil pipelines are those carrying refined petroleum products – gasoline, jet fuel, home heating oil and diesel fuel.

These refined product pipelines vary in size from relatively small 8 to 12 inch diameter lines up to 42 inches in diameter. Refined products pipelines are found in almost every state in the U.S, with the exception of some New England states. The total mileage nationwide of refined products pipelines is approximately 95,000 miles. These pipelines deliver petroleum products to large fuel terminals with storage tanks to be loaded into tanker trucks. Trucks cover the last few miles to make local deliveries to gas stations and homes. Major industries, airports and electrical power generation plants are supplied directly by pipeline.

Akzed on July 12, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Could someone please translate the
sign written in Spanish .

Lucano on July 12, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Obama’s will hold the line on this – as the consensus continues to build in support of the pipeline.

22044 on July 12, 2013 at 3:33 PM

It would be a shame if the activists don’t demonstrate on site. It would be pay per view worthy to watch the greenies being taken on by the ironworkers and pipefitters union storm troops.

a capella on July 12, 2013 at 3:35 PM

There will be protests.

And…?

Liam on July 12, 2013 at 3:36 PM

There will be protests.

I see a PSA in the near future…

Electrongod on July 12, 2013 at 3:37 PM

What if they changed the word of “drilling” to “aborting” the oil? Wouldn’t it make them happy to know Mother Earth was aborting it’s oil?

Flange on July 12, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Don’t they do that anyway?

thebrokenrattle on July 12, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Am I supposed to care that they protest?

Tater Salad on July 12, 2013 at 3:43 PM

They were told by their puppet handlers that they must protest, so protest they do. Sheepnado anyone?

kirkill on July 12, 2013 at 3:49 PM

What’s even more ridiculous vis-a-vis all these stupid enviro protests and liberal protestations, etc. is that a great deal of the Keystone Project has already been built. What they are all fussing about is completing the last leg.

Maroons.

Logus on July 12, 2013 at 3:49 PM

What if they changed the word of “drilling” to “aborting” the oil? Wouldn’t it make them happy to know Mother Earth was aborting it’s oil?

Flange on July 12, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Priceless…

Tim Zank on July 12, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Don’t they do that anyway?

thebrokenrattle on July 12, 2013 at 3:41 PM

In my experience, liberals invariably have issues with mommy, daddy, their sexuality, and their skin tone.

They have carried the teenage insecurities everyone has into their adulthood.

Yet, and being adults now, they condemn those who have grown out of that common phase of life.

Liam on July 12, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Could someone please translate the
sign written in Spanish .

Lucano on July 12, 2013 at 3:33 PM

“If you don’t stop hurting the planet, you’ll get no more nachos!”

kirkill on July 12, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Liam on July 12, 2013 at 3:54 PM

And what’s with all the pink? Isn’t that supposed to be reserved for Breast Cancer 5Ks? Maybe they got confused…on their sexuality…

kirkill on July 12, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Will there be Pink Vejayjays??

ToddPA on July 12, 2013 at 3:57 PM

There are 50 people in Lac Megantic, Quebec who think shipping oil by pipeline is probably a better idea than shipping it by train.

Red Cloud on July 12, 2013 at 3:58 PM

Could someone please translate the
sign written in Spanish .

Lucano on July 12, 2013 at 3:33 PM

We’re doing the protests Americans won’t do.

CurtZHP on July 12, 2013 at 3:58 PM

Is there anything as illustrative of how stupid this country has become? People are actually out protesting for the government to make them poorer.

crrr6 on July 12, 2013 at 3:58 PM

Seems to me that the protester ranks have to be getting spread pretty thin on any particular project (mining, oil, budgets, abortion, birth control, animal rights, gun control, voter ID, etc.). Are we getting close to the stage where we get 4 or 5 per event?

teejk on July 12, 2013 at 3:59 PM

And what’s with all the pink? Isn’t that supposed to be reserved for Breast Cancer 5Ks? Maybe they got confused…on their sexuality…

kirkill on July 12, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Code Pink has a Protest Sign Rental Department. It’s how they fund their operations.

Flange on July 12, 2013 at 3:59 PM

“If you don’t stop hurting the planet, you’ll get no more nachos!” kirkill on July 12, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Now that’s funny.

Akzed on July 12, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Who’s up for a presidential race poll?: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/07/12/Rubio-Drops-to-5th-in-Iowa-Poll

davidk on July 12, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Will there be Pink Vejayjays??
ToddPA on July 12, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Sure.

Akzed on July 12, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Liam on July 12, 2013 at 3:54 PM

And what’s with all the pink? Isn’t that supposed to be reserved for Breast Cancer 5Ks? Maybe they got confused…on their sexuality…

kirkill on July 12, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Liberals need endless acceptance, no matter where they can find it an matter how bizarre it might get.

Liberals are never individualists, like are Conservatives. We want individual liberty — we’ll leave our neighbor alone on his land if he extends the same courtesy. Despite what liberals tell, WE aren’t of groupthink. Liberals are.

Reality, free choice, and liberalism do not mix.

Liam on July 12, 2013 at 4:03 PM

There are 50 people in Lac Megantic, Quebec who think shipping oil by pipeline is probably a better idea than shipping it by train.

Red Cloud on July 12, 2013 at 3:58 PM

“Not available for comment.”

davidk on July 12, 2013 at 4:03 PM

I’m sure these envirowackos will be denounced by Democrats on the House floor and Jay Carney as obstructionists who stand in the way of economic growth and are stifling government efforts at building infrastructure. Right?

It’s amazing that liberals love to talk about “infrastructure spending” but the only time they talk about infrastructure it’s to stop it. “Infrastructure spending” is just code word for shoveling money to the public sector unions.

gwelf on July 12, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Maybe the oil train derailment in Quebec will wake up a few Buffett/Ogabe fan-boys:

Quebec oil-train tragedy triggered oil spill that threatens water supplies

By John Upton

The deadly oil-train explosion in Lac-Mégantic, Quebec, on Saturday also sparked an environmental disaster. An oil sheen has stretched more than 60 miles down a river that’s used as a source of drinking water.

By Tuesday morning, 13 people had been confirmed dead and some 37 were still missing after runaway train cars loaded with fracked crude from North Dakota derailed in the town and ignited. Lac-Mégantic’s fire chief said the fire is now under control, but a small area of town is still off limits for safety reasons. Emergency crews continue to search for bodies of the missing. Officials are urging relatives to provide them with DNA, such as on toothbrushes, to help them identify the dead, and are warning that some of the bodies may never be identified.

Ogabe on July 12, 2013 at 4:08 PM

If you see them protesting drive by in your petroleum fueled vehicle and give them a honk.

docflash on July 12, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Akzed on July 12, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Not to mention natural gas lines:

There are about 20,000 miles of natural gas gathering lines. The gathering lines move natural gas to large cross-country transmission pipelines. Including both onshore and offshore lines there are approximately 278,000 miles of natural gas transmission lines.

Natural gas, unlike oil, is delivered directly to homes and businesses through local distribution lines. Large distribution lines, called mains, move the gas close to cities. These main lines, along with the much smaller lines to homes and businesses, deliver natural under streets in almost every city and town and account for the vast majority of pipeline mileage in the U.S. – 1.8 million miles.
[Emphasis added]
http://www.pipeline101.com/overview/natgas-pl.html

davidk on July 12, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Opposition to XL and the entire eco-Marxist agenda is really a battle between the wealthy eco-chic and those of us who have to use energy every day to commute, work, shop, etc.

It really makes me angry that some billionaire Lefty donor to Obama can threaten to withhold donations to the Democrat party if they don’t support his environmental agenda even if that agenda harms millions of Democrat voters and that the Dems will go along with those demands. The poor can be bought off with more bread and circuses.

This is a modern version of “let them eat cake”.

Charlemagne on July 12, 2013 at 4:13 PM

The nation’s more than 2.6 million miles of pipelines safely deliver trillions of cubic feet of natural gas and hundreds of billions of ton/miles of liquid petroleum products each year. They are essential: the volumes of energy products they move are well beyond the capacity of other forms of transportation. It would take a constant line of tanker trucks, about 750 per day, loading up and moving out every two minutes, 24 hours a day, seven days a week, to move the volume of even a modest pipeline. The railroad-equivalent of this single pipeline would be a train of 75 2,000-barrel tank rail cars everyday.

Pipeline systems are the safest means to move these products. The federal government rededicated itself to pipeline safety in 2006 when the PIPES Act was signed. It mandates new methods and makes commitments for new technologies to manage the integrity of the nation’s pipelines and raise the bar on pipeline safety. [Emphasis added]

http://www.phmsa.dot.gov/portal/site/PHMSA/menuitem.ebdc7a8a7e39f2e55cf2031050248a0c/?vgnextoid=a62924cc45ea4110VgnVCM1000009ed07898RCRD&vgnextchannel=f7280665b91ac010VgnVCM1000008049a8c0RCRD

davidk on July 12, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Will there be Pink Vejayjays??

ToddPA on July 12, 2013 at 3:57 PM

damn you Akzed!!! that was Crude Pink!

DanMan on July 12, 2013 at 4:23 PM

damn you Akzed!!! that was Crude Pink!
DanMan on July 12, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Yeah but she plays the same key role in several of these think tanks.

Akzed on July 12, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Environmentalists ahead of pending Keystone XL report: There will be protests.

And the protests will be funded by the DOJ.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 12, 2013 at 4:39 PM

“66% of Americans favored building the pipeline”

Then 0bama will be against it and ramrod it doom. When public sentiment reaches 60%+ for or against, 0bama and the elitist leftists will cram it down our throats.

Happens every time. Just showing us peons their muscle.

jukin3 on July 12, 2013 at 4:42 PM

“66% of Americans favored building the pipeline”

Then 0bama will be against it and ramrod it doom. When public sentiment reaches 60%+ for or against, 0bama and the elitist leftists will cram it down our throats.

Happens every time. Just showing us peons their muscle.

jukin3 on July 12, 2013 at 4:42 PM

The opinions of the slob Warren Buffett matter a lot more than that of you peons.

slickwillie2001 on July 12, 2013 at 4:44 PM

A Pew Research Center survey conducted in mid-March found that 66% of Americans favored building the pipeline while 23% opposed doing so. Support for the pipeline cut across partisan and demographic lines. Substantial majorities of Republicans (82%) and independents (70%) favor building the Keystone XL pipeline, as do 54% of Democrats. Among Democrats, 60% of party moderates and conservatives support the pipeline compared to 42% of liberals.

A veto-proof majority favors building the pipeline. Let’s put these people in Congress and build it already.

The Keystone XL pipeline is supposed to double the capacity of an existing pipeline between the same two points, one in Alberta and the other in southeastern Nebraska. The existing pipeline runs east through Canada, then turns south along the eastern borders of the Dakotas and Nebraska, while the proposed Keystone XL pipeline takes a beeline shortcut, cutting about 300 miles off the route of the existing pipeline (the hypotenuse of the right triangle).

If the new pipeline is shorter than the existing pipeline, doesn’t the mean less probability of leakage through fewer flanges? Did any of the pink protestors think of that?

Steve Z on July 12, 2013 at 4:44 PM

These aren’t “grassroots”.
.
These guys are working for money. The left is amassing paid civilian protestors with taxpayer dollars

As far back as 2009, Craigslist was advertising: (Of course, all these ads are now gone, but FreeRepublic has a snap shot of the ads)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2312010/posts

Here’s one of the contacts back then:Please send a Cover Letter and Resume to Peter at jobs@grassrootscampaigns.com or Visit Us at http://www.grassrootscampaigns.com/jobs.php.
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http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/08/09/will-media-investigate-astroturf-recruitment-craigslist

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The most recent, of course, was in Austin:
http://austin.craigslist.org/npo/3930825088.html
Pays up to $1300-$2200 mo.
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You can just click on Non-profit jobs at the top to see more. I’m more than sure that this is where some of the hit and run posters on national forums come from. They usually have less than 30 posts, according to their ID, and post gibberish mainly, to break up any serious discussion about the failures of this administration, or just blindly post lies. They probs get a list of talking points when they are hired.
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Seems that these ads are being put out by MoveOn. (Isn’t that one of Bama’s “non-political non-profit 501(c)4 organization that so many conservatives and tea party organizations took years to get approved, if ever? )^_________^
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What a crooked Alinskyite street thug gangstuh we have in D.C.

avagreen on July 12, 2013 at 4:46 PM

OK,my posts aren’t getting posted. WTH?

avagreen on July 12, 2013 at 4:47 PM

OK,my posts aren’t getting posted. WTH?

avagreen on July 12, 2013 at 4:47 PM

That happens to me sometimes, and I’m careful to not use foul language or use words like “rights” or “Constitution”.

LOL

I don’t know if it’s random, or if their setup looks for key words. Most posts appear later on if you check, but I’ve had some that disappear. Might be some kind of refresh issue…just dunno.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 12, 2013 at 5:01 PM

I’ll try again, with my third attempt, with a shortened version.
.
These guys are being hired to protest.

I’ll just post one link to see if that works.
http://austin.craigslist.org/npo/3930825088.html
Pays up to $2200 mo.
SUMMER JOBS: Fight Hate Groups in TX and nationwide!
There are 62 Hate Groups in Texas and over 1,000 of them nationwide. Work locally on behalf of the nation’s leading organization on monitoring and fighting hate groups. Build local support for the campaign to win victories for tolerance and justice!
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I’m not going to post the whole thing again as I’m not sure it will get posted this time..

Here’s a shortcut: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=craigslist%20ad%20for%20protesters

These ads are being put on the web by MoveOn….you know the non-profit 501(c)(4)organizations that conservatives are trying to get?

avagreen on July 12, 2013 at 5:02 PM

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 12, 2013 at 5:01 PM

Ah, you were correct. As I was feverishly trying to recompose another post, my first one and yours showed up.

??

avagreen on July 12, 2013 at 5:04 PM

avagreen on July 12, 2013 at 5:02 PM

When you click on ‘Submit Comment’ and the page pops to the top of the article page, that tends to mean that your post went into moderation. It retains the original time stamp, so after it comes out of mod, if it does, it will be buried in the queue.

Just guessing now, I would say that any Clist link would go to mod because it’s an obvious possible spam for someone selling something.

slickwillie2001 on July 12, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Good, let he stupid liberals throw away their money on protests…all the less money they will have come election.

right2bright on July 12, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Could someone please translate the
sign written in Spanish .

Lucano on July 12, 2013 at 3:33 PM

It says “take care of the planet for our children and grandchildren.”

Ironic, given that these women fight tooth and nail for the right to kill those same children and granchildren.

JoseQuinones on July 12, 2013 at 5:23 PM

I think, by the latest count, we’re at late-2013/early-2014 for a decision, but I won’t get my hopes up.

Try January 2017.

Maybe enough citizens will have wised up by then.

GarandFan on July 12, 2013 at 5:48 PM

slickwillie2001 on July 12, 2013 at 5:19 PM

Thanks for the heads up. I didn’t know WHAT was going on.

avagreen on July 12, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Sounds like another job for the Obama/Holder Department of Just-Us!

PJ Emeritus on July 12, 2013 at 6:53 PM

I say we go and greet them in large enough numbers that they remain insignificant. They have nothing to do but hinder others that must go to work everyday. Time to take a day off and get America moving again.

j bo on July 12, 2013 at 9:29 PM

avagreen on July 12, 2013 at 4:46 PM

I heard there were CL ads to pay people to protest at the Zimmerman trial. I have searched but can’t find them. Have you seen those?

8 weight on July 12, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Well, I see a use for the DHS’s millions of rounds of ammunition. I hear environmentalists make excellent compost….

{^_^}

herself on July 13, 2013 at 3:19 AM

If it was pro pipeline advocates threatening civil disobedience it wold be called terrorism.

Slowburn on July 13, 2013 at 5:11 AM

In my experience, liberals invariably have issues with mommy, daddy, their sexuality, and their skin tone.

They have carried the teenage insecurities everyone has into their adulthood.

Liam on July 12, 2013 at 3:54 PM

I was once told that liberals are walking examples of why the norm used to be arranged marriages instead of free-choice ones – so that people who make Peter Pan look mature would be forced to grow up and be productive.

MelonCollie on July 13, 2013 at 10:08 AM