Quotes of the day

posted at 10:41 pm on July 11, 2013 by Allahpundit

On the same day that former President George W. Bush implored his fellow Republicans to carry a “benevolent spirit” into the immigration debate, a closed-door meeting of the House GOP revealed deep divisions, particularly on what to do with the 11 million immigrants who are living illegally in the United States.

Securing the border remains their chief priority, but a consensus could also be building around how to address Dreamers — the children of undocumented immigrants…

Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen, R-Fla., quipped that the Republican Party “is like an orchestra,” with many members contributing meaningfully to the debate…

Although House leaders indicated there would not be any substantial votes taken during July and likely no major action on the matter until at least September, they pledged not to ignore the issue.

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“[We] affirmed that rather than take up the flawed legislation rushed through the Senate, House committees will continue their work on a step-by-step, common-sense approach to fixing what has long been a broken system,” GOP leaders said in a joint statement released on Wednesday evening.

But upon exiting the nearly two-hour meeting, lawmakers said they were no closer to setting a timetable for action, formulating a strategy or building consensus on how to deal with a pathway to citizenship for the nation’s roughly 11 million undocumented immigrants…

Others say the House will pass something because it has to.

“The White House would love us to fail so they can take back the House on the issue, so politically it would be advantageous for us” to pass immigration, said Homeland Security Chairman Michael McCaul, R-Texas. “We need to do something.”

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The House Republican leadership is reaching out to top House Democrats to assess their support for a piecemeal approach to immigration reform, according to sources involved in the discussions…

The legislation under discussion between Republicans and Democrats includes bills reworking the employment verification system and legislation to toughen border security, according to sources both involved in and familiar with the talks. In strategy sessions and planning meetings, Republicans have said that support for immigration reform is soft among GOP lawmakers — and leadership is skeptical that there is backing for anything more drastic than border security and E-verify…

The debate will also get lumped in with a busy fall, at a time when Congress will be jousting over government funding and the debt limit…

The meeting, and the lack of progress made, is sure to frustrate the corporate interests who are dropping millions of dollars into the effort to reform immigration. There was no real sense about whether the GOP will try to reform the high-skilled and low-skilled visa process, providing a new pathway to citizenship for illegal immigrants or how they will tackle the plethora of other issues included in the Senate bill.

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A senior Democratic aide said, “things have clearly unraveled in the past couple of days,” even though some lawmakers had been “slightly cautiously optimistic” about passing a comprehensive bill…

Obama held a meeting with members of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus on Wednesday to discuss strategy on how they could shoehorn the legislation through the House…

During the meeting lawmakers strategized on which lawmakers would support the bill and how they could get community groups and businesses to work on the issue.

He basically told us, ‘I’m relying on you to get this done,” one lawmaker in the meeting said.

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In a wide-ranging sit-down interview with TPM on Wednesday, Pelosi described her own bright lines and areas of flexibility — her procedural dos and don’ts and her policy limits — which ironically are the parameters that matter most when evaluating whether a bill is possible.

“We’ve always been saying — I talked to the Speaker about it — ‘However you want to bring it to the floor, bring it to the floor, but understand how it leaves the floor has to be in a comprehensive form to go to conference. But if you want individual votes on different sections I think that’s an OK way to go.’ As long as the pieces are there. Not just the things that we’ve seen come out of that caucus.”…

“I want 11 million people on a path to permanent legal status to lead to citizenship,” she said. “Permanent legal residency is a path to citizenship. This isn’t two separate things. … For our country, who are we as a country, if we say we have second-class Americans — it’s not even second-class citizens, because they’re not citizens, second-class Americans. So I think you can say a path to permanent legal status. But eventually after a certain period of time those people are eligible for citizenship. So it’s just a question of sequencing.”

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One prominent theory of party identification is that people identify with the party that they associate with social groups they like or belong to. So it’s not so much about policy, or what the parties “stand for.” It’s who the parties “stand with.” The challenge for the GOP is that even if it supports other policies that many Latinos support, its hostility to immigration reform may be the driving force behind a broader impression: that the Democrats are “the party of Latinos.” And once those impressions are formed, they are very difficult to change. As I’ve noted, the perception that the GOP is the “party of the rich” really has not changed for 60 years…

And if immigration reform were to fail, it is hard for me to see the environment becoming any more favorable. Think of the “meso-layer” of Latino opinion leaders—the priests, the Spanish-language media personalities, activists, etc. These are the people that Latinos who may not follow politics that closely hear day in and day out, in the pew and on the radio while driving and on their television sets. What are they going to say if reform fails? I think the indications are they’ll blame the Republicans…

How is the GOP going to be able to get information in front of Latinos that helps them view the party in favorable ways if Latino opinion leaders won’t provide it?

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Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul still believes the GOP would benefit from enacting a version of immigration reform before the 2016 elections, even though he voted against the comprehensive overhaul passed in the Senate at the end of June…

“I think Nevada is and should be open to the message that the Republican Party needs to be more welcoming to immigrants,” Paul said. “I think the message for the Republican Party needs to be that we welcome you. If you want to work, we will find a place for you.”

Pressed on whether his opposition to the Senate bill makes him a flawed messenger on that front, Paul said he continues to favor immigration reform and is “working with members in the House to move something forward.”

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Via Gallup.

gg

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Via the Corner.

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Via Greg Hengler.


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I think we can safely file this fellow’s advice in that round filing cabinet on the floor. His definition of “saving the GOP” is that of every progressive- “shut up and become Democrats”.

When someone basically says, “the only way for you to remain you is to become me”, it isn’t your well-being he’s concerned about.

clear ether

eon

eon on July 12, 2013 at 12:01 AM

i’m not entirely sure that that’s Trende’s point. He wants the Rs to go more toward populist conservative points.

but your point is correct…and that’s what really really worries me. That the ‘flyover’ people have been ostracized to such an extent that the R party can not include them without losing ‘centrists’ to the hip D party.

or, in other words, the conservative part of the R party is already a regional party. The party will cleave with a big chunk going to the ‘moderate’ Ds. I.e. we are rapidly becoming a one-party state, albeit with centrist and leftist elements vying for power…like they do in europe

r keller on July 12, 2013 at 12:22 AM

Cyndy, are you a Lutheran? That’s a very Lutheran question…

OmahaConservative on July 12, 2013 at 12:16 AM

LOL What an interesting observation! No, I’m Catholic. I am familiar with the origins of the term “cracker,” but I don’t understand the whipping reference! :)

cynccook on July 12, 2013 at 12:22 AM

For Allahpundit – Oh Happy Day

jaime on July 12, 2013 at 12:23 AM

ABC news does not know what a Dreamer is. The child of an “undocumented immigrant” that was born in the USA is not a Dreamer, but a citizen.

Jasper61 on July 12, 2013 at 12:24 AM

Who is “the new aesthetic”?

jaime on July 12, 2013 at 12:18 AM

He’s a sweet Texas boy who loves Great Danes and taking pretty pictures.

cynccook on July 12, 2013 at 12:25 AM

Hot Air, following their master’s lead at Townhall, has been totally passive on immigration.
All these “Must pass or dooooomed” articles instead of several great articles about how
devastating passing this bill will be for the Republicans. I waited all day to see if they
would post a link to Mark Krikorian’s great NRO post. Too much truth no doubt.
No one can argue that NRO has actually been far more conservative on this
immigration bill the Hot Air.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/353148/political-train-wreck-mark-krikorian

AmeriCuda on July 12, 2013 at 12:30 AM

http://www.flcourts18.org/PDF/Press_Releases/Zimmerman_Final_Jury_Instructions.pdf

here are the jury instructions. Reading the whole thing is very sobering. The agitprop theater that we see on TV is a clown show compared to the real deal. Really sad. Driven by eyeballs and money. Lawyers advertising their wares on TV (with all due respect to the lawyers that post here)

r keller on July 12, 2013 at 12:30 AM

He’s a sweet Texas boy who loves Great Danes and taking pretty pictures.

cynccook on July 12, 2013 at 12:25 AM

I was right with you until the “pretty” pictures.

If the boy is from Texas, and he loves Great Danes, his pictures would be magnificent and grande. Even the women I know from Texas are magnificent and grande. Excepting for Wendy “Skank” Davis.

jaime on July 12, 2013 at 12:31 AM

LOL What an interesting observation! No, I’m Catholic. I am familiar with the origins of the term “cracker,” but I don’t understand the whipping reference! :)

cynccook on July 12, 2013 at 12:22 AM

The Ten Commandments

As the head of the family should teach them in a simple way to his household

The First Commandment
You shall have no other gods.
What does this mean?
We should fear, love, and trust in God above all things.

The Second Commandment
You shall not misuse the name of the Lord your God.
What does this mean?
We should fear and love God so that we do not curse, swear, use satanic arts, lie, or deceive by His name, but call upon it in every trouble, pray, praise, and give thanks.

The Third Commandment
Remember the Sabbath day by keeping it holy.
What does this mean?
We should fear and love God so that we do not despise preaching and His Word, but hold it sacred and gladly hear and learn it.

The Fourth Commandment
Honor your father and your mother.
What does this mean?
We should fear and love God so that we do not despise or anger our parents and other authorities, but honor them, serve and obey them, love and cherish them.

The Fifth Commandment
You shall not murder.
What does this mean?
We should fear and love God so that we do not hurt or harm our neighbor in his body, but help and support him in every physical need.

The Sixth Commandment
You shall not commit adultery.
What does this mean?
We should fear and love God so that we lead a sexually pure and decent life in what we say and do, and husband and wife love and honor each other.

The Seventh Commandment
You shall not steal.
What does this mean?
We should fear and love God so that we do not take our neighbor’s money or possessions, or get them in any dishonest way, but help him to improve and protect his possessions and income.

The Eighth Commandment
You shall not give false testimony against your neighbor.
What does this mean?
We should fear and love God so that we do not tell lies about our neighbor, betray him, slander him, or hurt his reputation, but defend him, speak well of him, and explain everything in the kindest way.

The Ninth Commandment
You shall not covet your neighbor’s house.
What does this mean?
We should fear and love God so that we do not scheme to get our neighbor’s inheritance or house, or get it in a way which only appears right, but help and be of service to him in keeping it.

The Tenth Commandment
You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his manservant or maidservant, his ox or donkey, or anything that belongs to your neighbor.
What does this mean?
We should fear and love God so that we do not entice or force away our neighbor’s wife, workers, or animals, or turn them against him, but urge them to stay and do their duty.

[The text of the commandments is from Ex. 20:3, 7, 8, 12–17.]

The Close of the Commandments
What does God say about all these commandments?
He says, “I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate Me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love Me and keep My commandments.” (Ex. 20:5–6)

What does this mean?
God threatens to punish all who break these commandments. Therefore, we should fear His wrath and not do anything against them. But He promises grace and every blessing to all who keep these commandments. Therefore, we should also love and trust in Him and gladly do what He commands.

OmahaConservative on July 12, 2013 at 12:32 AM

Hot Air has been really quiet as of recent…
Wonder why?

OmahaConservative on July 11, 2013 at 10:55 PM

Could be some kind of jinx because of the movie Sharknado.

SparkPlug on July 12, 2013 at 12:33 AM

From TalkLeft…

Zimmerman: Anticipating Mark O’Mara’s Closing

Worth the read.

Resist We Much on July 12, 2013 at 12:33 AM

Hope they follow your what you say. No offense to the fairer sex, but I’m not convinced those 6 have your abilities to reason that out. No way to know. Makes sense to us. Jury of our peers. I’m not sure he got that.

We’ll see.

wolly4321 on July 12, 2013 at 12:34 AM

williamg on July 11, 2013 at 11:53 PM

I’d like seeing them lose their jobs, have their pensions taxed at 80%, and be so ostracized by American society they’re ashamed to show their faces in public.

Liam on July 12, 2013 at 12:09 AM

….Huh!…..Yeah – That sounds like a good start……..

williamg on July 12, 2013 at 12:34 AM

has a capella been around lately. I’ve been holding a song for him/her.

jaime on July 12, 2013 at 12:34 AM

The agitprop theater that we see on TV is a clown show compared to the real deal. Really sad. Driven by eyeballs and money. Lawyers advertising their wares on TV (with all due respect to the lawyers that post here)

r keller on July 12, 2013 at 12:30 AM

Drudgey has an infowars link (!!!) speculating on whether Judge Nelson is being influenced by the O administration….

cynccook on July 12, 2013 at 12:35 AM

TYVM, Liam. :-)

Resist We Much on July 12, 2013 at 12:37 AM

gotta go

‘nite All

jaime on July 12, 2013 at 12:39 AM

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/353197/sarah-palins-rough-sled-senate-katrina-trinko

Another jealous hag hoping Palin disappears. Even after her epic beat down of Begich, Trinko still thinks Miller and that other bozo would have a better chance of beating Begich in the general.
Palin would win by 10 points. That post has to be one of the most dishonest hit pieces I have ever read about Palin and that’s saying something.

AmeriCuda on July 12, 2013 at 12:42 AM

has a capella been around lately. I’ve been holding a song for him/her.

jaime on July 12, 2013 at

Yeah, he has been here…

OmahaConservative on July 12, 2013 at 12:43 AM

Cynccook- maybe Jeantel read that book from Amazon on Celtic culture?

Or maybe she knows my version?

Get real.

wolly4321 on July 12, 2013 at 12:47 AM

on July 12, 2013 at 12:34 AM

has a capella been around lately. I’ve been holding a song for him/her.

jaime on July 12, 2013 at 12:34 AM

A lot of regulars seem to have dropped out…

OmahaConservative on July 12, 2013 at 12:48 AM

Cynccook- maybe Jeantel read that book from Amazon on Celtic culture?

Or maybe she knows my version?

Get real.

wolly4321 on July 12, 2013 at 12:47 AM

Yep, not being facetious. Just didn’t get the reference. Maybe because I haven’t been following this three-ring circus trial closely enough?

cynccook on July 12, 2013 at 12:52 AM

gotta go

‘nite All

jaime on July 12, 2013 at 12:39 AM

Goodnight, jaime. This is my idea of pretty, any way! :D

cynccook on July 12, 2013 at 12:54 AM

Hey RWM- if you were Zimmermans defense Attorney, what would you say tomorrow?

wolly4321 on July 12, 2013 at 12:04 AM

“If they ain’t got sh*t, you must acquit…”

PointnClick on July 12, 2013 at 12:56 AM

I understand.

In American culture,, the “cracker” was the guy whose job it was to whip the slaves. whip makes a cracking sound.

Now you know.

Actually I’m delighted I could impart knowledge.

It’s a good thang.

wolly4321 on July 12, 2013 at 12:59 AM

“The White House would love us to fail so they can take back the House on the issue, so politically it would be advantageous for us” to pass immigration, said Homeland Security Chairman Michael McCaul, R-Texas. “We need to do something.”

Remember this idiot’s name – McCaul – because he’s a retarded, treasonous POS who shouldn’t be in charge of anything more complicated than a broom handle. What an amazingly dishonest, dumb, disingenuous azzhole.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 12, 2013 at 12:59 AM

A lot of regulars seem to have dropped out…

OmahaConservative on July 12, 2013 at 12:48 AM

Yes. You were one of the first posters who caught my eye, when I first started watching HA some time ago.

I haven’t seen much of bmore, flora duh, key west, twerp–I thought she was back–you!, Jackie, dire, cmsinaz, upinak, kingsjester, angrymike, etc lately.

Where is everybody?

herm2416 on July 12, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Actually I’m delighted I could impart knowledge.

It’s a good thang.

wolly4321 on July 12, 2013 at 12:59 AM

:) In the book I referred to, the author goes more by this definition:

As early as the 1760s, this term was in use by the upper class planters in the British North American colonies to refer to Scots-Irish and English settlers in the south, most of whom were descendants of English bond servants. A letter to the Earl of Dartmouth reads:

“I should explain to your Lordship what is meant by Crackers; a name they have got from being great boasters; they are a lawless set of rascalls on the frontiers of Virginia, Maryland, the Carolinas, and Georgia, who often change their places of abode.

cynccook on July 12, 2013 at 1:04 AM

Yes. You were one of the first posters who caught my eye, when I first started watching HA some time ago.

I haven’t seen much of bmore, flora duh, key west, twerp–I thought she was back–you!, Jackie, dire, cmsinaz, upinak, kingsjester, angrymike, etc lately.

Where is everybody?

herm2416 on July 12, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Flora has been awol for a while, twerp is back but her comments are delayed by being sent to moderation, dire was here earlier in the day, but I haven’t seen many of the others you’ve mentioned for a good while.

I think people grew a little tired of the non-stop Snowden coverage a couple of weeks ago and then the immigration business which seems destined to go nowhere…

cynccook on July 12, 2013 at 1:08 AM

You have 6 women deciding. Hardly a ccw crowd.

Poor little trayvon. Just went for some candy.

Attacked by a white hispanic. An apparently very white hispanic.

Red hispanics are down with the brothers. Or sumthing.

wolly4321 on July 12, 2013 at 1:12 AM

I haven’t seen much of bmore, flora duh, key west, twerp–I thought she was back–you!, Jackie, dire, cmsinaz, upinak, kingsjester, angrymike, etc lately.

Where is everybody?

herm2416 on July 12, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Mostly reloading. Actually, I am too; I d!ck around here to hang out with Sophie a little every night I can, and it’s easy for me because I live on the PC, but I’m awol from the main threads now.

But, in particular, cmsinaz & KJ do mornings. Dire does the middle of the night, and with no one partying on the QOTD, he basically just tags the thread. :) Jackie just had her fill for now, time to do something else. Flora Duh is missing; I heard even her Twitter went quiet — I don’t know. Key West is in and out, and Twerp is living in moderation, so she can’t talk in real time. Her posts won’t show till morning.

Axe on July 12, 2013 at 1:13 AM

I AM still here!

annoyinglittletwerp on July 12, 2013 at 1:15 AM

O, and angrymike has an empire to run. :)

Axe on July 12, 2013 at 1:19 AM

I’m pretty sure Jeantel gets this version. Don’t you?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cracker

wolly4321 on July 12, 2013 at 1:23 AM

@Soph, Just rt’d this. It was too long to RT and CC you, but I thought it was hilarious and wanted you to see it:

@Moira1987 2h

Laugh at #SharkNado all you want. But I’m guessing that Guam tipping over is no longer THIS guy’s –> @RepHankJohnson greatest fear… #derp

:)

re.

CAUGHT ON TAPE: Obama Justice Official Urges Action Against George Zimmerman

Resist We Much on July 12, 2013 at 1:35 AM

Yeah. The crony thing, the rule of men thing, the . . . whole thing.

:(

Seems strange to ask this, but — is it illegal? Nope?

Axe on July 12, 2013 at 1:46 AM

I can almost gaurantee you the letter to Dartsmouth was in cursive.

wolly4321 on July 12, 2013 at 1:47 AM

Nite all. Love you guys. Smart people rock.

See ya tomorrow.

wolly4321 on July 12, 2013 at 1:51 AM

i know that someone has posted this before…but i just read it.

So, so brutal. Honestly, we shouldn’t even have to call our R reps…the fraud that is the Schumer/Rubio bill should be obvious

the Schumer Republicans aren’t just spineless, they are mindless…and suicidal.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/353148/political-train-wreck-mark-krikorian?splash=

none too bright, i mean. But i know they have their own self interests, and they think they will get tons of fame and money. That the guys around the clubhouse will pat them on the back.

but, I agree with kirkorian…the good feeling will be their until nancy p gavels the house to order in 2014.

r keller on July 12, 2013 at 2:02 AM

Snoop Dog Eater Obama is a crawling slithering mutant reptile that couldn’t run a lemonade stand without a teleprompter and make enough coin to buy an old pair of mom jeans so he could golf like a girl and cheat on his score like he cheated on his grades.

SparkPlug on July 12, 2013 at 2:14 AM

Its bad luck to be last so someone please post after me. Maybe Dire will login in soon and save me from a hex.

SparkPlug on July 12, 2013 at 2:15 AM

Meh.

Axe on July 12, 2013 at 2:16 AM

Well, crap.

Axe on July 12, 2013 at 2:18 AM

Clear ether

John the Libertarian on July 12, 2013 at 2:55 AM

Lying whores.

pat on July 12, 2013 at 3:04 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! Changing the subject: If the head is split…you must acquit. “The Zimmerman Trial: Guilty By Presidential Decree?”My take.

kingsjester on July 12, 2013 at 6:29 AM

Where is cmninaz? Is she on vacation?

esr1951 on July 12, 2013 at 7:16 AM

I haven’t seen much of bmore, flora duh, key west, twerp–I thought she was back–you!, Jackie, dire, cmsinaz, upinak, kingsjester, angrymike, etc lately.
Where is everybody?
herm2416 on July 12, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Flora duh went silent on twitter back in Jan.

bluegill on July 12, 2013 at 7:23 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! Changing the subject: If the head is split…you must acquit. “The Zimmerman Trial: Guilty By Presidential Decree?”My take.

kingsjester on July 12, 2013 at 6:29 AM

I’ve been mostly reading the comments on different threads rather than commenting on the Zimmerman Trial. (A lot of yours. I like your blog.) I just can’t get much TV time these days. But there is some very good coverage and links by Hot Air people. What really floors me is the dishonesty of the state and the prosecution. In my few short years I’ve always respected authority. My parents demanded it. But these days you look at some authority and get that so many are mistrustful of it. I’ll never be a copwatch.com type of person, but this is really just disappointing to see law enforcement acting so corruptly.

Your point about the president commenting knowing that he would be influential is something that all Americans should be afraid of. His politics trumped George Zimmerman’s right to a fair trail.

smoothsailing on July 12, 2013 at 7:25 AM

Hmmm………

Bmore on July 12, 2013 at 7:25 AM

Axe on July 12, 2013 at 2:18 AM

You need a hug?

Bmore on July 12, 2013 at 7:28 AM

Hmmm………

Bmore on July 12, 2013 at 7:25 AM

I hate how Hugh always talks about who’s a fan of what team at the start. Who even cares about that? It’s always so phony. It’s like when he talks about who went to what school and who should be rivals of whom because of it. Just get to the darn interview and quit with the fake chit chat at the start.

bluegill on July 12, 2013 at 7:30 AM

OC, you would have to ask each commenter that is absent as to why. However for me, I am covered up with work, and family duties. Plus it is summer, coolest I can remember by the way, and folks tend to spend time doing outdoor stuff instead of indoor stuff. I know I do.

Bmore on July 12, 2013 at 7:42 AM

Yay, Community Organizer in Chief is “mobilizing activist groups to shoehorn the legislation through the House”.

What a pathetic POS. The man doesn’t even know how to SPELL leadership.

He SO disgusts me.

deadrody on July 12, 2013 at 7:44 AM

OC, there is also this to consider. I posted it on QOTD two threads ago.

Funny thing. Many here have griped time and time again about the nature of QOTD for being a chat room etc. Nice to see all that have complained so rush in and fill the thread with thoughtful commentary./

Bmore on July 11, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Bmore on July 12, 2013 at 7:45 AM

Off to work. Axe, the hug will have to wait. ; )

Bmore on July 12, 2013 at 7:46 AM

“Border security” is but one part of “enforcement,” and a part which the Patrol itself admits won’t necessarily improve at all with the addition of more agents.

At least as important are tracking and tracing temporary visas like those for students or tourists, and making e-Verify mandatory NOW (it has been fully vetted by testing and works well). But that necessarily involves deporting violators, so the Gang of 8 and Obama won’t talk about such things.

As one who has and continues to support genuine immigration reform including realistic status for the millions already here, the proposal offered is woefully inadequate – and in its present form amounting to just another amnesty. Unacceptable.

Adjoran on July 12, 2013 at 8:19 AM

LOL What an interesting observation! No, I’m Catholic. I am familiar with the origins of the term “cracker,” but I don’t understand the whipping reference! :)

cynccook on July 12, 2013 at 12:22 AM

I had a black buddy in the Army who told me cracker meant the man who held the whip. When he used the whip.. it would make a cracking sound.. so the man with the whip was the cracker.

So.. when we’re called crackers.. it means we’re the slave driver.

He also told me there was a lot of racism within the black community that nobody ever talks about. Black on black racism. Blacks who do not like other blacks who have lighter skin or darker skin.

I experienced this first hand. My kids were friends with a a young black. He was around 15. They were going to our youth group together. One evening I get a call from his aunt or grandmother, can’t remember which now. She was concerned about whether her grandson would be accepted by the other blacks in our youth group. I was stunned… speechless. I said “What do you mean?” And she said.. “There are other blacks in your youth group.. but my grandson is very dark.. he is black black.. they won’t like him.” I assured her it would all be fine.

Notice.. she wasn’t concerned about the whites accepting her grandson.. but other blacks. Amazing.

JellyToast on July 12, 2013 at 8:30 AM

Yes. You were one of the first posters who caught my eye, when I first started watching HA some time ago.

I haven’t seen much of bmore, flora duh, key west, twerp–I thought she was back–you!, Jackie, dire, cmsinaz, upinak, kingsjester, angrymike, etc lately.

Where is everybody?

herm2416 on July 12, 2013 at 1:00 AM

I take extended breaks from politics in general, for sanity sake…

OmahaConservative on July 12, 2013 at 8:48 AM

Jasper61 on July 12, 2013 at 12:24 AM

No, they’re not–not Constitutionally. Those who are referred to as “anchor babies” have only been considered citizens thanks to Justice Brennan’s footnote in a 1982 Supreme Court decision. It is an absurd idea that undermines the sovereignty of our nation.

DrMagnolias on July 12, 2013 at 8:50 AM

Notice.. she wasn’t concerned about the whites accepting her grandson.. but other blacks. Amazing.

JellyToast on July 12, 2013 at 8:30 AM

Same thing happens in the Latino community…

There are Indian Mexicans…and Spanish Mexicans…

Of course nobody talks about it outside the culture

workingclass artist on July 12, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Good morning all! Thank you for the updates/comments. QOTD is my favorite, because of the the chitting and chatting : ). I miss seeing all the regulars and hearing what they are up to.

herm2416 on July 12, 2013 at 9:19 AM

Only the good die young.

The four in this picture will likely live to be 100.

acyl72 on July 12, 2013 at 9:24 AM

I posted the link to the 2013 state economic/business rankings and it got eaten by the thread monster…

They are at cnbc. Top States to do business.

Top 5

1. South Dakota (Congratulations SD)
2. Texas (Yeah…we rock)
3. North Dakota
4. Nebraska

#5 is a tie

5. Utah
6. Virginia

NJ and LA come in at # 42 & 43 respectively (That’s gonna be a problemo for Christie & Jindal in 2016 if they run…just sayin’)

Bottom 5

46. Nevada
47. California
48. West Virginia
49. Rhode Island
50. Hawaii

The Top 14 with the exception of Colorado at #7 are all led by Republican Governors.

Conservative Governance Works.

workingclass artist on July 12, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Good morning all! Thank you for the updates/comments. QOTD is my favorite, because of the the chitting and chatting : ). I miss seeing all the regulars and hearing what they are up to.

herm2416 on July 12, 2013 at 9:19 AM

My DSL internet connection went down on Tuesday afternoon. A new modem was sent out, though that wasn’t the problem. This morning, a technician was dispatched to reset a “port” (the guy told me it happens on only 2 or 3 out of 100 tickets), and now I am back up and running.

I missed HA! :)

Anti-Control on July 12, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Off to work. Axe, the hug will have to wait. ; )

Bmore on July 12, 2013 at 7:46 AM

I went last so Spark wouldn’t have bad luck. Then I was just out there. :)

Axe on July 12, 2013 at 2:11 PM

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