McConnell to Reid on the “nuclear option”: You, sir, are about to become the Worst. Senate leader. Ever.

posted at 6:41 pm on July 11, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

I’d probably say that whether or not that ship has already sailed is wide open for a reasonable and lively debate, but anyhow, Republican Leader Mitch McConnell had some words for his Democratic counterpart on the Senate floor this afternoon pertaining to his triggering of the “nuclear option.”

That route — of altering Senate procedures and limiting minority rights, specifically in this instance to prevent endless filibusters of presidential nominees after Republicans have stalled a number of Obama’s picks — generally isn’t a popular one, but Harry Reid evidently decided it was worth it to go there. Here’s what happened on the Hill today:

Majority Leader Harry Reid charged on Thursday that Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell has “broken” his promises to consider President Barack Obama’s executive branch nominations, as the Nevada Democrat prepared to move forward with the “nuclear option” to change Senate rules.

Reid filed cloture on a bloc of seven Obama nominees on Thursday afternoon, setting the stage for a potential vote on invoking the nuclear option on Tuesday. If Republicans continue to filibuster any or all of those presidential selections, the Nevada Democrat will force through his proposed rules change, he told reporters.

Reid’s nuclear option comes in two parts. It would require a simple majority to change Senate rules, rather than the 67 now needed. And it would mean that a filibuster on an executive-branch nominees could be ended with only 51 votes, rather than the 60-vote threshold now in place.

Changing the rules, of course, all sounds fine and dandy when it isn’t your party that’s in the minority, and McConnell was on hand to remind the gentleman of the Senate’s rather changeable nature — and he is in earnest, dear readers. Via Mediaite:


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Payback would be to refuse unanimous consent on everything (and they do a lot of waiver of rules to save time.)

Also, object to all conference committees, which also require unanimous senate consent.

(Of course, Harry might change those rules, too…)

Wethal on July 11, 2013 at 6:44 PM

MeanWhile…………..Team GOP threaten too:

The Hill ‏@thehill 29m

Nuclear fallout: GOP vows no legislation will pass Senate until after the next election http://j.mp/14LYCmz

https://twitter.com/thehill
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canopfor on July 11, 2013 at 6:45 PM

The unions have lost of dirt on dingy harry. I almost feel sorry for him NOT! When you dwell with bugs under a rock, you become one.

djtnt on July 11, 2013 at 6:45 PM

And,…………Reid’s TombStone:

The Hill ‏@thehill 1h

Team McConnell tweets picture of Harry Reid’s ‘tombstone’ http://j.mp/12pGzmJ by @joneasley

http://thehill.com/blogs/twitter-room/other-news/310553-team-mcconnell-tweets-picture-of-harry-reids-tombstone?utm_source=buffer&utm_campaign=Buffer&utm_content=buffer7511e&utm_medium=twitter
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https://twitter.com/Team_Mitch/status/355422902578978816/photo/1

canopfor on July 11, 2013 at 6:47 PM

If the Democrats hadn’t mastered the endless filibuster during Bush’s tenure, Miguel Estrada would be a Supreme Court Justice by now.

JadeNYU on July 11, 2013 at 6:48 PM

” stalled a number of Obama’s picks”

When reading, I inadvertently added an r to one of those words.

traye on July 11, 2013 at 6:49 PM

..then Mitch and Harry when for drinks and dinner at Le’ Sur Mer in D with their special table – hidden from the humbling masses…

celt on July 11, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Ouch:

Hammered into line!

I do hope,that didn’t include,ahem,

*Lean ForWard*!

canopfor on July 11, 2013 at 6:52 PM

Reid will just change the rules back to the old ways the night before the Republicans take the Senate.

Reid has no shame.

portlandon on July 11, 2013 at 6:53 PM

I blame Bill Frist for this. He’s the one who dreamed up “the nuclear option”.

wbcoleman on July 11, 2013 at 7:00 PM

dingy Harrah is one of the worst humans. Ever…

OmahaConservative on July 11, 2013 at 7:00 PM

I bet you (to use an old expression no one uses anymore), dollars to donuts that when the situation is reversed the Democrats will cry foul. They will scream and cry, via the media, nooooooooooo, you can’t do that, completely ignoring the new procedure Harry Reid established. The Democrats have no shame and will ignore the fact that Reid changed the rules first.

mike3121 on July 11, 2013 at 7:01 PM

I bet you (to use an old expression no one uses anymore), dollars to donuts that when the situation is reversed the Democrats will cry foul. They will scream and cry, via the media, nooooooooooo, you can’t do that, completely ignoring the new procedure Harry Reid established. The Democrats have no shame and will ignore the fact that Reid changed the rules first.

mike3121 on July 11, 2013 at 7:01 PM

+100

They have done that many times, crying that they’re being left out.

Liam on July 11, 2013 at 7:07 PM

If I were Harry Reid I’d do exactly what I wanted to do. The idea that he would have anything into fear from the GOP is hilarious.

rrpjr on July 11, 2013 at 7:09 PM

Wrut-Wroooo don’t look now but somebody found the Minority Leader who has been MIA, and he be pizzed.

Nice of you to finally show up Mitch.

De Oppresso Liber on July 11, 2013 at 7:13 PM

A little late for McConnell to get his hair up,..but I’ll take it.

SMACKRUNNER on July 11, 2013 at 7:35 PM

Once they really open the door, its no going back. We’ll eventually abolish the filibuster, or change it beyond any form of recognition. And, we’ll have whipsaw majorities that pass and repeal legislation whenever one side can muster 51 votes.

Revenant on July 11, 2013 at 7:44 PM

A simple majority to change Senate rules? That’s far worse than the matter specific to nominations. If they do that, the Senate just becomes another House, where the majority rewrites the rules whenever they want.

Basically this would be the death of the Senate as it has been since the early days of the Republic.

Chuckles3 on July 11, 2013 at 7:45 PM

Democrats play to win, Republicans just want the Democrats to like them.

A super majority used to be 67 votes until the Democrats ran into a determined majority in the mid 1970s(?) so they changed it to the current 60 vote super majority to get around the Republicans.

Several years ago when the Democrats were tying up the Republican majority, the Republicans were afraid to upset the Democrat with a rules change, they just wanted to get along with their Democrat buddies.

That’s how Democrats win, they do whatever it takes to win, while the Republicans are sitting on the bench wondering if the white chalk on the playing field clashes with the green grass.

RJL on July 11, 2013 at 7:50 PM

If I were Harry Reid I’d do exactly what I wanted to do. The idea that he would have anything into fear from the GOP is hilarious.

rrpjr on July 11, 2013 at 7:09 PM

Exactly. A super majority used to be 67 votes until the the mid 1970s(?) when the Democrats ran into a determined Republican minority so the Democrats simply changed the super majority vote to the current 60 votes to get around the Republicans.

RJL on July 11, 2013 at 7:55 PM

I bet you (to use an old expression no one uses anymore), dollars to donuts that when the situation is reversed the Democrats will cry foul. They will scream and cry, via the media, nooooooooooo, you can’t do that, completely ignoring the new procedure Harry Reid established. The Democrats have no shame and will ignore the fact that Reid changed the rules first.

mike3121 on July 11, 2013 at 7:01 PM

“The Democrats”? Naah, Reid himself.

http://www.redstate.com/2013/07/11/action-alert-call-senator-reid-and-read-his-2005-quotes-on-the-nuclear-option/

REID: “The majority can’t get what they want so they break the rules to change the rules. We believe the traditions of the Senate should be maintained. We believe if you are going to change the rules in the Senate, change them legally, not illegally.” (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.4043, 4/21/05)

REID: “The American people, in effect, reject the nuclear option because they see it for what it is–an abuse of power, arrogance of power. Lord Acton said power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. … That is what is going on. The rules are being changed in the middle of the game. They are breaking the rules to change the rules. Regardless of one’s political affiliation, Americans understand this is a partisan political grab.” (Sen. Reid, Congressional Record, S.4238, 4/26/05)

Several more 2005 quotes there… Reid arguing vehemently against… doing exactly what he wants to do now.

I don’t see any way to spin that.

gekkobear on July 11, 2013 at 7:59 PM

‘arry eh, why don’t your your nimby bacon ‘n’ eggs and give yourself a Barclays, cuz you looks like brown bread, an’ you need to quit tellin’ them pork pies, you ain’t nuthin’ but a tea leaf mate, your just such a tosser, who should sod off. You are so bloody dodgy, think yerself a toff, you nothing but a nutter, I wish I could make you redundant you chav, you stupid plonker, now just sod off… ;D

Scrumpy on July 11, 2013 at 8:01 PM

I blame Bill Frist for this. He’s the one who dreamed up “the nuclear option”.

wbcoleman on July 11, 2013 at 7:00 PM

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Why wouldn’t you put the blame where it belongs – with Harry Reid for threatening to use the nuclear option. He has free will, you know.

ExpressoBold on July 11, 2013 at 8:15 PM

Changing the rules, of course, all sounds fine and dandy when it isn’t your party that’s in the minority, and McConnell was on hand to remind the gentleman of the Senate’s rather changeable nature — and he is in earnest, dear readers.

You don’t have to worry about that if your party is never in the minority do you. The Democrats are close enough to their demographic shift that it’s probably the right call for Reid to make. In related news: GOP supports path to citizenship for illegals.

DFCtomm on July 11, 2013 at 8:17 PM

McConnell to Reid on the “nuclear option”: You, sir, are about to become the Worst. Senate leader. Ever.

…senile old phart!…quit mumbling extra words!

KOOLAID2 on July 11, 2013 at 8:26 PM

Reid will just change the rules back to the old ways the night before the Republicans take the Senate.

Reid has no shame.

portlandon on July 11, 2013 at 6:53 PM

He don’t sir, but the mofo knows the gutter. Staying “above it all” makes us all the better for it. Right, right?

arnold ziffel on July 11, 2013 at 8:44 PM

This could be the thing ever if the GOP were to retaliate by gutting government, and then lowering taxes. It could very hard for even a Democratic majority to bring back some of the useless government. Sadly, I don’t have faith anymore in the GOP will to cut.

thuja on July 11, 2013 at 8:45 PM

“About to become”?

Reid ALREADY IS!

Thank you Nevada! YOU foisted this piece of crap on the rest of the nation. Your state DESERVES to be the nuclear waste dump for the rest of the nation!

GarandFan on July 11, 2013 at 8:48 PM

Reid is losing it. I saw him speak on this topic just today on Fox News and he could barely get his words out. Classic Alzheimer’s or Parkinson’s early symptoms.

slickwillie2001 on July 11, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Reid will just change the rules back to the old ways the night before the Republicans take the Senate.

Reid has no shame.

portlandon on July 11, 2013 at 6:53 PM

So? He’s deciding any rules change now only takes 50 votes (plus the VP) and not the 67 that it has been in the past.

Assuming he rams this through now, it’s the precedent for anyone to use it later. And the rules can change again the day after he changes them back without any difficulty.

gekkobear on July 11, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Dingy Harry is about to become the worst Senate Leader ever, where has Mitch McConnell been for the last six years, the dark side of the moon. This shows just how far out of touch with reality these elected fools are.

savage24 on July 11, 2013 at 9:45 PM

Basically this would be the death of the SenateConstitutional Republic as it has been since the early days of the Republic.

Chuckles3 on July 11, 2013 at 7:45 PM

Chuckles..that happened when the Senate was no longer elected by the states’ legislatures but by popular vote.

The Founding Fathers planned for the two Houses to be elected differently, so that one way or another, states would retain a voice.

By going to a popular vote for both houses they gutted States’ power overnight.

It has been nothing but a Federal Government power grab ever since, enabled by the bastiges in both Houses that pander to the popular vote.

Tenwheeler on July 11, 2013 at 10:39 PM

Basically this would be the death of the Senate as it has been since the early days of the Republic.

Chuckles3 on July 11, 2013 at 7:45 PM

That happened when they allowed the stimulus and ZeroCare ™ through.

Hey, McConnell, are you awake now?

dogsoldier on July 12, 2013 at 5:50 AM

Basically this would be the death of the Senate as it has been since the early days of the Republic.

Chuckles3 on July 11, 2013 at 7:45 PM

Sorry, but that happened with the 17th Amendment.

GWB on July 12, 2013 at 9:28 AM

And once the Democrat Senators change the rules so that 51 votes is all that is needed to change ANY OTHER Senate rules, the Democrats will quickly change the 51 vote rule so that the Harry Reid can unilaterally pass anything he wants in the Senate by simply voting for it himself without any vote in the Senate being needed at all.

Mahdi on July 12, 2013 at 11:03 AM

Now we know why Reid pulled this stunt. I’d bet good money he knew Big Sis was resigning and wants to discourage opposition to her replacement:
http://wannabeanglican.blogspot.com/2013/07/the-napolitano-resignation-and-harry.html

WannabeAnglican on July 12, 2013 at 11:25 AM

I still don’t understand how Reid can change the Senate Rules with a simple majority, when the Senate Rules clearly call for a super-majority.

His nuclear option is premised on the Constitutional statement that Congress shall adopt their rules of procedings. But Congress did adopt such rules, which includes the rule for super-majority requirement for changing rules. Having adopted their rules, the flip side of the Constitutional statement is that Congress is now bound by them.

Of course so few of the Senators have actually read the Constitution. Why would I expect that they’ve read the Senate rules? Harry Reid can push through what he wants to just because of that.

ss396 on July 12, 2013 at 1:08 PM