Texas House approves late-term abortion ban; Update: Final passage in House, 96-49

posted at 8:01 am on July 10, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

What’s been the impact of pro-abortion agitation outside the special session of the Texas legislature in Austin?  Perhaps nothing more than focus.  After defeating a series of amendments designed to weaken the late-term abortion ban the session was called to debate, the core bill passed by a 2-1 margin on its second reading in the lower chamber — four more ayes than the same bill got in the previous session:

After a full day of debate and pro-life votes to defeat almost two dozen pro-abortion amendments to weaken the bill, Texas legislators successfully approved on second reading a bill that will ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy.

Lawmakers voted 98-49 for the bill on second reading and a third reading vote is forthcoming, likely tomorrow, but the same margin is expected. The vote today for conditional approval is four more votes for the measure than the last time the House approved the bill before Wendy Davis’ infamous filibuster.

Five pro-life Democrats voted for HB2 including Guillen, Herrero, Martinez, Munoz, and Pickett while one Republican voted against it: Sarah Davis.

The bill would ban abortions after 20 weeks and hold abortion clinics accountable by making them meet basic health and safety standards that have closed facilities in other states that are unable to comply. The bill also requires all abortion clinics to meet the same health and safety regulations as an ambulatory surgical center, requires a doctor providing abortions to secure admitting privileges at a nearby hospital, and lastly, requires a doctor to personally administer the abortion-inducing drugs to the patient.

The bill will move to the state Senate after a third reading and vote, where no amendments can be offered and the House has to give the bill an up-or-down vote.  That’s why the final vote is not expected to change much from yesterday, and why it shouldn’t take long for the third reading and vote.  That is, unless the legislature gets disrupted again as it did last month, but the state of Texas has been much more prepared for that potential in this session than the previous.

The hero of late-term abortion defenders in that session, state Senator Wendy Davis, has more or less run up the white flag this time, thanks to the heightened security in the chamber:

“It will be very difficult because unfortunately the voices that have been here crying out against this bill are not going to be heard,” Davis told CNN in a brief interview.

“But I don’t think it’s the end. It’s the beginning of a battle line,” she added.

Last month, Davis staged an 11-hour filibuster that temporarily stalled the bill, which would ban abortions after 20 weeks and create new, potentially practice-ending requirements for doctors performing the procedures across the state.

Texas Governor Rick Perry responded to the legislative roadblock by calling lawmakers back for a special session to reconsider the measure, essentially assuring its speedy passage through the Republican controlled House and Senate.

Due to tough statehouse rules governing filibusters, top legislative aides in the Texas Capitol said it’s unlikely Davis would be able to stop the bill a second time.

“That’s probably the case,” Davis agreed.

“Voices crying out” have been heard for the last two weeks at the capitol, with demonstrators protesting constantly.  What Davis is lamenting is that the demonstrators can’t shout the legislature into paralysis, using mob rule to get her way rather than representative democracy.  That’s a strange position for an elected legislator to take, and I doubt she’d be so sanguine about mob rule if it was a tax hike under consideration and Tea Party activists in the gallery.

Just to remind Davis and others about the nature of the demonstrations, 62% of Texans favor a ban on late-term abortions — so it looks as though the voices of a large majority of Texans are being heard in the legislature.  As another reminder, only a few demographics support abortion on demand throughout pregnancy outside of a margin of error; 50% of women support a 20-week abortion ban nationwide, according to a National Journal poll last month. It’s Davis’ side that’s in the minority … which is why she’s cheering mob rule rather than representative democracy.

Update: The bill passed on its third reading this morning, 96-49.  It now moves to the state Senate.


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MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Your posts at least prove one point. Any good movement will encounter opposition.

22044 on July 10, 2013 at 3:34 PM

“But I don’t think it’s the end. It’s the beginning of a battle line,”

The beginning of a battle line? This doesn’t even make sense. Does this woman even know what she’s saying?

Dunedainn on July 10, 2013 at 3:35 PM

There were laws against it in PA, were there in Texas?

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Yes.

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:35 PM

MJBrutus

I seem to remember Romney talking a lot about “jobs jobs jobs” and “the economy” during his campaign. A lot about it. It’s all he really talked about. He lost. No one cares about jobs and the economy. No one cares about the NSA and the IRS and Benghazi except for rabid conservatives and libertarians. The electorate sleeps through all of this.

The poorest among us are the most obese. There is no real consequence to joblessness or economic stagnation on the electorate.

This anti abortion bill doesn’t hurt the GOP’s chances. I doubt it helps them particularly either. But, who cares? We shouldn’t kill babies. There should be a law against it… Because it’s murder. It is murdering children. That’s, like, wrong and stuff.

happytobehere on July 10, 2013 at 3:35 PM

You’ll take this win? You call this a win? This is an electoral disaster! It’s a win the way Pearl Harbor was a win for the Japanese (I almost said Germans but I doubt many would get the Animal House reference). All that the TX GOP has accomplished is that they managed to throw a life preserver to the drowning Donkeys while tying a millstone around their own necks.

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Right, ‘cuz forcing Democrats to vote against laws that prohibit ‘abortion on-demand without apologies, at any time’ is such a winner for them.

If you’ve listened to Wendy Davis in interviews, you’ll notice that she rarely even mentions the word ‘abortion’ and certainly cannot explain why abortion providers should be held to lower health and safety standards than orthodontists and veterinarians.

Pro-Aborts, Now You Get To Defend Killing Viable Babies

Resist We Much on July 10, 2013 at 3:36 PM

If you look at the law, what it basically does is bring the practice of abortion in-line with the standards that almost all European nations have right now.

In most European nations an abortion is considered to be a surgical procedure. Abortions must therefore be performed in a certified surgical center or hospital, and are not considered to be a casual outpatient procedure as was the case in Texas before this new law. A number of countries also require a range of tests, including *ultrasound* (that vaginal rape the pro-abortion crowd in the US like to chant), plus a consultation with a doctor to review options and the procedure, before the abortion.

So why is it that what seems like a much more rational and balanced approach to abortion is OK in Europe, but NOT in America?? Aren’t we all supposed to look to Europe as the example of how civilized states run their affairs? Looks to me like most “civilized” states have:

1. A 12-14 week cut off for an abortion except for medical grounds (and then the upper limit is usually 20-24 weeks for that)
2. Involvement by a primary care physician or specialist to approve the abortion
3. Tests (including ultrasound) and a consult before the abortion
4. The abortion itself must be conducted in a certified surgical center to maximize the safety of the woman undergoing the procedure

So why not adopt that standard in the US?? Where’s the outrage at the restrictions on “on demand” abortion that these European nations enforce?

Austria: 12 weeks
Belgium: 12 weeks
Bulgaria: 12 weeks
Czech Republic: 12 weeks
Denmark: 12 weeks
Estonia: 12 weeks
France: 12 weeks
Germany: 12 weeks
Greece: 12 weeks
Hungary: 12 weeks
Latvia: 12 weeks
Lithuania: 12 weeks
Luxemboug: 12 weeks
Netherlands: 13 weeks
Poland: 12 weeks
Portugal: 12 weeks
Romania: 14 weeks
Slovakia: 12 weeks
Slovenia: 10 weeks
Sweden: 18 weeks

EasyEight on July 10, 2013 at 3:36 PM

Brutus sounds suspiciously like Schumer et al, who insist they care for the future viability of the GOP while encouraging us to abandon our priciples.

questionmark on July 10, 2013 at 3:07 PM

Yes, we should be grateful for such concern.

slickwillie2001 on July 10, 2013 at 3:37 PM

I am pro choice.

Its what I thought. So really, you do give a rodent’s backside about the law itself.

However, in the best of times it is the lowest of priorities. At times like this when we are facing the biggest disasters since WWII its significance is non-existent. Yet the TX GOP has instantly made it the top issue for next year’s midterm elections for most of the country!

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:24 PM

You seem to try to give yourself the issue advantage here by deciding what hurts the GOP or not. Is it just convenient that your pro-choice issues hurt the GOP when they try to enact common-sense legislation? I’m sorry, but in the totality of your words, it seems like you’re more upset about the bill passing itself and abortion being restricted at all. You’d come across as more ingenuous if you dropped the pretense and admit the new law pisses you off.

My opinion only.

smoothsailing on July 10, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Thanks for the good debate not making it personal, which most around here find to be obligatory.

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:29 PM

I have made no argument for or against abortion here. Focus!

I will say one more time (read slowly if it helps) that it is criminal political malpractice to bring issues like abortion to the fore at a time when the Donkeys are financially ruining this nation.

Naw, you don’t make it personal at all.

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Be ready for an idiot leftist judge to block the law deeming it “unconstitutional” like one did in Wisconsin.

Sterling Holobyte on July 10, 2013 at 3:42 PM

questionmark on July 10, 2013 at 3:07 PM

I am well and truly tired about people squawking day and night about political “principles.” The fact is that the word has become a cliche used merely to avoid ever having to prioritize. All “principles” are non-negotiable and of paramount importance.

It’s the same way people have come to call everything they want a “right.” Declaring something, like health care, a “right” is simply a way of removing debate and elevating importance to the highest level.

When EVERYTHING is the TOP priority, there are no priorities. When EVERYTHING is a PRINCIPLE and/or a RIGHT there is no such thing as democracy.

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Sing me another sad song, sista.

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Sing me another sad song, sista.

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:43 PM

You’re the one throwing a hissy fit.

sentinelrules on July 10, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Be ready for an idiot leftist judge to block the law deeming it “unconstitutional” like one did in Wisconsin.

Sterling Holobyte on July 10, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Yep, gonna happen for sure…

22044 on July 10, 2013 at 3:46 PM

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Yeah. That whole morality and ethics thing is sooo passe./

kingsjester on July 10, 2013 at 3:46 PM

You’ll take this win? You call this a win? This is an electoral disaster! It’s a win the way Pearl Harbor was a win for the Japanese (I almost said Germans but I doubt many would get the Animal House reference). All that the TX GOP has accomplished is that they managed to throw a life preserver to the drowning Donkeys while tying a millstone around their own necks.

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Pssst, hey, bub. Have a beer and calm down. Look at your Facebook feed again. To give you a clue here, I live in Austin. Now think of the friends turning their profile pictures orange and wearing pink tennis shoes and stuff…..Do you see anybody outside the “usual suspects” doing this? How many orange “Stand with Texas Wymyn” pics were pink equal signs a week or two ago….? Relax.

Sekhmet on July 10, 2013 at 3:46 PM

You’re the one throwing a hissy fit.

sentinelrules on July 10, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Yeah, although I can’t see you or anyone else, in my mind’s eye I suppose that everyone here is of good cheer, except for you-know-who.

22044 on July 10, 2013 at 3:48 PM

By the way, 52% of Millennials want to ban abortions after 20 weeks.

If you want to talk about ‘extremists,’ then look no further than this stat:

Only 14% of Americans support late-term abortions.

14%!

Resist We Much on July 10, 2013 at 3:48 PM

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:43 PM

I’m not the least bid sad since you were the one talking about people getting personal. Feel free to show yourself anytime, you don’t have the ability to impact me one way or the other. Just yourself. Congratulations.

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Sekhmet on July 10, 2013 at 3:46 PM

OK, it’s a judgment call as to whether abortion matters as a political game changer. Personally, I think you gotta be nucking futs to think that it isn’t, but you can believe what you want.

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:49 PM

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Cindy, Cindy, Cindy. Your response to my post completely ignored the content of that post. Then you got upset because I told you as much. Cry me a river.

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:51 PM

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:49 PM

The funny thing is on a national level, I agree with you. If you want to know something more entrenched in conservatives than abortion…….states’ rights. And Texas is proving it time and time again.

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2013 at 3:51 PM

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Neither of us is new here, you know I am not the least bit upset, I wouldn’t give you that power. I just like pointing out the inconsistency of your remarks. I’m wondering……is it because I am a woman? LOL!!!!

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Be ready for an idiot leftist judge to block the law deeming it “unconstitutional” like one did in Wisconsin.

Sterling Holobyte on July 10, 2013 at 3:42 PM

The stay issued only applies to the requirement that abortion providers have admitting privileges at a hospital within 30 miles. This requirement is in effect in other states. The reason that the Federal judge stayed it is because it only applies to abortion providers and not other physicians at ambulatory clinics. It’s an equal protection issue and, frankly, the judge was correct. Wisconsin needs to go back and rewrite the law to include ALL physicians that perform out-of-hospital surgical procedures.

Abortions after 20 weeks in Wisconsin are now illegal.

Resist We Much on July 10, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Don’t pretend that the TX GOP didn’t hand the national media the perfect excuse to ignore all the destruction to our way of life caused by the worst POTUS evah!

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:20 PM

There is no way you’re this naive.

The national media was going to use this excuse no matter what the Texas legislature did. They could have made it Texas law that any woman (or girl) could have an abortion right up to the moment of birth and made the Texas taxpayers pay for all of them, and the national media would STILL say that Texas had declared a war on women.

And you know it.

And stop pretending they need any more excuses to ignore the destruction. They’ve made it perfectly clear they’ll make up an excuse if they have to.

And you know this too.

So when you keep ignoring my facts that completely destroy your original argument, it’s not just dishonest, it frankly makes you look like a leftist.

runawayyyy on July 10, 2013 at 3:54 PM

I’m wondering……is it because I am a woman? LOL!!!!

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Ah yes, the victim card :-)

I surrender!

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:57 PM

I surrender!

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Excellent!!! If only I were also black. I’d be slashing and trashing.

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2013 at 3:59 PM

runawayyyy on July 10, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Yes, yes, of course! And that is why it was incredibly dumb for them to tinker with new abortion laws to begin with! While there is never a good time, there are plenty of bad times and there are other times that are SPECTACULARLY bad. Now is one of those.

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:59 PM

MJ wants us to know that he hates God and wants to kill babies.

We got it.

faraway on July 10, 2013 at 4:00 PM

faraway on July 10, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Not true. I hate babies and want to kill gawd.

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Yes, yes, of course! And that is why it was incredibly dumb for them to tinker with new abortion laws to begin with! While there is never a good time, there are plenty of bad times and there are other times that are SPECTACULARLY bad. Now is one of those.

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:59 PM

You missed the point.

The national media is going to use abortion against republicans no matter what republicans actually do. It will be no more (or less) effective as a result of this law. Abortion was legal after the presidencies of Reagan, Bush 41 and Bush 43. Did that stop the media from claiming they would make all abortion illegal? No. We all know Mitt Romney was pro choice, regardless of what he said (at last) on the recent campaign trail. Did that stop the media from calling him a woman hater of the highest order? No.

So your whining on the timing or ferocity of this subject is useless.

And, since it’s a state law, passed in a state that has much better GDP and unemployment numbers than the national average, your whining about this being a distraction or something of lower priority is disingenuous.

runawayyyy on July 10, 2013 at 4:11 PM

The national media was going to use this excuse no matter what the Texas legislature did. They could have made it Texas law that any woman (or girl) could have an abortion right up to the moment of birth and made the Texas taxpayers pay for all of them, and the national media would STILL say that Texas had declared a war on women.

And you know it.

And stop pretending they need any more excuses to ignore the destruction. They’ve made it perfectly clear they’ll make up an excuse if they have to.

runawayyyy on July 10, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Scott Walker hasn’t gotten as far as he has by being wobbly. There are moral and ethical reasons for this law. Public support is on our side in this issue regardless of what the press says, yes hispanic support as well. And the press will never, never support a conservative stand.

So quit worrying about the press, get your big-boy shorts on, and do the right thing.

itsspideyman on July 10, 2013 at 4:20 PM

I am well and truly tired about people squawking day and night about political “principles.” The fact is that the word has become a cliche used merely to avoid ever having to prioritize. All “principles” are non-negotiable and of paramount importance.

It’s the same way people have come to call everything they want a “right.” Declaring something, like health care, a “right” is simply a way of removing debate and elevating importance to the highest level.

When EVERYTHING is the TOP priority, there are no priorities. When EVERYTHING is a PRINCIPLE and/or a RIGHT there is no such thing as democracy.

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:42 PM

For prog/libs, your depictions of principles and rights are accurate-they are tools with no real meaning outside of being useful for gaining political power.

For myself, LIFE is a real principle, and I appreciate those who do not weigh political expediency when seeking to defend it.

Your protestation that Texas has given the media something to bludgeon the GOP with is, well…laughable. It’s not as though the media were seriously digging away at the myriad scandals that are swirling around this administration and then SQUIRRELLED suddenly over to Texas because of the abortion debate.
If all Republicans were silent about the all issues they care about, the media would be concerned about (celebrating) what seems to be the death of the party.

Oh, and we’re not a democracy.

questionmark on July 10, 2013 at 4:37 PM

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:20 PM

National media is focused on George Zimmerman, so relax.

sentinelrules on July 10, 2013 at 3:29 PM

But…but…that’s just a local crime story!

It’s not like it was federal…or somethin’.

Solaratov on July 10, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Oh, and we’re not a democracy.

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MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Don’t pretend that the TX GOP didn’t hand the national media the perfect excuse to ignore all the destruction to our way of life caused by the worst POTUS evah!

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:20 PM

And the Texas state legislature has what to do with the federal?

Are you saying that all state legislatures should conduct state business with an eye to how it will affect the federal? That all state legislatures (with GOP majorities) should avoid any state business that will ‘upset’ the democRATs? That they should all just bend over for the donks?

It’s cowards like you that have put the GOP in the position in which it finds itself today.

Solaratov on July 10, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Solaratov on July 10, 2013 at 4:55 PM

I am saying that politicians at the state level as well as the national level should not be STOOO-PID!

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Don’t pretend that the TX GOP didn’t hand the national media the perfect excuse to ignore all the destruction to our way of life caused by the worst POTUS evah!

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:20 PM

If a majority of Americans want abortions after 5 months of pregnancy to be legal – no polling has captured that feeling.

I thought that pro-choice republicans at least pretended to want abortion to be a state issue? Now we are being told states should not be involved in abortion issues?

Monkeytoe on July 10, 2013 at 5:08 PM

I am saying that politicians at the state level as well as the national level should not be STOOO-PID!

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 4:58 PM

That does not answer the question.

Do you think that state legislatures should conduct state business with an eye on “what it might look like” to the rest of the country? Should state legislatures (with GOP majorities) avoid any state business that might upset the leftists?

Where does such cowardice and lack of ethics/principle end?

Solaratov on July 10, 2013 at 5:12 PM

However, in the best of times it is the lowest of priorities. At times like this when we are facing the biggest disasters since WWII its significance is non-existent. Yet the TX GOP has instantly made it the top issue for next year’s midterm elections for most of the country!

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:24 PM

So, in your mind, abortion is the number one issue most voters care about?

And you are arguing about other people caring too much about principles? It seems to me that you have a pretty strong feeling about abortion, believing it to be the driving issue of most elections.

You think this law is wrong. And you think the GOP should give up on abortion and that will change votes? I seriously doubt that if the GOP became pro-choice it would sway many votes. the vast majority of pro-choice people for who abortion is a major issue at elections are very far liberal on almost everything else as well.

People who are moderately pro-choice but are not passionate about it are not going to base their vote on a ban of abortions after 5 months of pregnancy.

there are very few people who only lean right or are right in the middle who are that passionate about abortion.

Monkeytoe on July 10, 2013 at 5:17 PM

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Try to be rational. Please. We are risking becoming dumber when we read your posts.

22044 on July 10, 2013 at 5:21 PM

Congratulations bible bangers.

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 1:52 PM

I’m not a ‘Bible Banger’. *Fiddles w/ Star of David pendant.*

annoyinglittletwerp on July 10, 2013 at 2:36 PM

Torah banger?

: )

workingclass artist on July 10, 2013 at 5:26 PM

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Try to be rational. Please. We are risking becoming dumber when we read your posts.

22044 on July 10, 2013 at 5:21 PM

Do what I do – ignore her/him/it.

It’s really not a hard concept to not get pregnant. However, pro-lifers have to learn how to fight better like emphasizing how real and human those fetuses look. When people see a fetus grimacing in pain when the needle comes or realize that OMGOMGOMG that is actually a baby then we’ll really nullify the pro-aborts.

Also, make it attractive and heroic to have the baby for adoption. This is a seriously under attended issue. Some crying families talking about how adopted Johnny made their lives complete and then the birth mother talking about how she feels…

It just baffles me, however, that anyone could argue about picking up the safety standards. Keep abusing that chicken, pro-aborts. Thanks for the assist.

kim roy on July 10, 2013 at 5:31 PM

Solaratov on July 10, 2013 at 5:12 PM

Some questions are far too dumb to be deserving of an answer. However, you insist so I will tell you that distracting attention away from the myriad of catastrophic catastrophes we face in this country to chase after never-ending social battles is STOOO-PID!

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 5:32 PM

That’s what you’re not getting. Republicans are no longer stupid enough to listen to people like you who demand they compromise on their principles to “win” ignorant people who voted for Obama anyway. They are now pushing for what is important rather than pandering to Obama imbeciles.

northdallasthirty on July 10, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Yep.

And this stand on principal is happening in Red States on several issues.

workingclass artist on July 10, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Don’t pretend that the TX GOP didn’t hand the national media the perfect excuse to ignore all the destruction to our way of life caused by the worst POTUS evah!

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:20 PM

And the Texas state legislature has what to do with the federal?

Are you saying that all state legislatures should conduct state business with an eye to how it will affect the federal? That all state legislatures (with GOP majorities) should avoid any state business that will ‘upset’ the democRATs? That they should all just bend over for the donks?

It’s cowards like you that have put the GOP in the position in which it finds itself today.

Solaratov on July 10, 2013 at 4:55 PM

Well done Solaratov

workingclass artist on July 10, 2013 at 5:37 PM

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Concerned troll is concerned.

sentinelrules on July 10, 2013 at 5:43 PM

There is absolutely nothing wrong with being against abortion. What I maintain is that it is criminal incompetence for the GOP to make an issue out of it with all that is wrong with this country. The party has a chance to bury the Donkeys, including Obamacare, global warming, enlargement of the welfare state and all the other evils of their dominance the past years and has instead elected to chase the same losing issues that they’ve been getting their asses kicked by for years.
STOOOOOO-PID!!!

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 2:18 PM

None of which can be solved in the Texas state legislature.

anuts on July 10, 2013 at 5:46 PM

Did I read that right? They actually read the bills aloud several times before voting??? That makes too much sense. Take it to the Federal level. It must keep those bills short and sweet. We just can’t have that.

BetseyRoss on July 10, 2013 at 5:48 PM

MJBrutus you’re a ghoul.

Yes we can handle this important issue too.

CW on July 10, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Oh, and we’re not a democracy.
questionmark on July 10, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Classic lib mistake. The mask always falls eventually.

happytobehere on July 10, 2013 at 5:53 PM

http://predicthistunpredictpast.blogspot.com/2013/06/pro-aborts-now-you-get-to-defend.html

Sophie, do you know the age of that baby in that gorgeous pic ?? ^^^

pambi on July 10, 2013 at 6:14 PM

pambi on July 10, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Oh, just realized it’s in the filename.

Nevermind. ;-)

pambi on July 10, 2013 at 6:23 PM

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 5:32 PM

You’re an idiot…

and a moral coward.

And, as such, not worthy of further comment.

Why don’t you run off to kos or du. Perhaps you’d be more at home there.
As it is, your “concern” for the fate of the GOP rings patently false.

Solaratov on July 10, 2013 at 6:24 PM

The provision for doctor-administered drugs adds another layer of protection against the spread of easy access abortion – it prevents the expansion of abortion providers to nurse practitioners and physician assistants. Because few physicians choose to be abortionists, Planned Parenthood and other pro-abortion organizations are trying hard to push for legislation that would allow mid-levels to be abortion providers, especially nurse practitioners. Nurse practitioners are mostly female and, unfortunately, occupations that are dominated at the top by female execs tend to be overwhelmingly liberal, even if the rank and file are not. The people who wrote this bill were very smart in adding this provision.

And I say all this as a female NP who is very much in support of increased autonomy and scope of practice for NPs. Just never this.

inmypajamas on July 10, 2013 at 6:26 PM

STOOO-PID!

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 5:32 PM

You know, I’m beginning to think that mjb actually believes that that is how “stupid” is spelled.

Or, it’s about 15.

Solaratov on July 10, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Headline at Breitbart
USA Today : Late-Term Abortion Bans Make Aborting Down Syndrome Babies Harder

“USA Today lamented in an editorial on July 2nd the likely “short-lived” victory of Texas state Sen. Wendy Davis (D) who, according to the editorial board, became “an overnight social media star among liberals,” as she filibustered a late-term abortion ban that would also require higher safety standards for abortion clinics.

Though the editorial board admits the U.S. must prevent murders like the ones committed by convicted murderer Kermit Gosnell in his West Philadelphia abortion clinic, it has decided that bans on abortions past 20 weeks of pregnancy, such as that in Texas, will “create more tragedies that they prevent.”

The most striking of the board’s named “tragedies” is that 20-week abortion bans will make it harder for women to abort unborn babies who are diagnosed with Down syndrome. In other words, Down syndrome babies may be permitted to actually live….”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Journalism/2013/07/09/Sad-USA-Today-Late-Term-Abortion-Bans-Make-Aborting-Down-Syndrome-Babies-Harder

workingclass artist on July 10, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Sophie, do you know the age of that baby in that gorgeous pic ?? ^^^

pambi on July 10, 2013 at 6:14 PM

IIRC, the baby is 29-31 weeks old.

Resist We Much on July 10, 2013 at 6:54 PM

Here’s my take on MJBrutus, and my question to him:

If I’m worried about getting the votes of people who think that murdering babies in a place that is less sanitary than a Lasik clinic….

Aren’t I doing it wrong? Why should Republicans even WANT those votes? Personally, I want them to vote against me. I want my opponent to get those votes.

The only problem here is an education problem. Americans are solidly on the side of this bill; they just need to know what this bill actually does versus what the Satan worshipers claim it does.

Anytime you are on the side of Satan worshipers, it’s a good time to examine yourself.

Vanceone on July 10, 2013 at 7:04 PM

Spot on Vanceone

crosshugger on July 10, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Did I read that right? They actually read the bills aloud several times before voting??? That makes too much sense. Take it to the Federal level. It must keep those bills short and sweet. We just can’t have that.

BetseyRoss on July 10, 2013 at 5:48 PM

Yep.

Also meet every two years and live and work under the laws they pass.

workingclass artist on July 10, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Solaratov on July 10, 2013 at 5:12 PM

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Some questions are far too dumb to be deserving of an answer. However, you insist so I will tell you that distracting attention away from the myriad of catastrophic catastrophes we face in this country to chase after never-ending social battles is STOOO-PID!

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 5:32 PM

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Most of us here have no trouble simultaneously handling issues of the government mismanaging tax payers money, and sexual morality.

Why do you have a problem with it?

Issues relating to the economy are neither inferior nor superior to issues regarding sexual morality (or the lack thereof).

listens2glenn on July 10, 2013 at 8:46 PM

catastrophic catastrophes we face in this country to chase after never-ending social battles is STOOO-PID!

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Oh please puke. YOU will always have your excuses. Think could be perfect and you’d float some similar bullshit.

Yes there’s never a perfect time to stand up for life.

CW on July 10, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Think= things

CW on July 10, 2013 at 9:08 PM

You’ll take this win? You call this a win? This is an electoral disaster! It’s a win the way Pearl Harbor was a win for the Japanese (I almost said Germans but I doubt many would get the Animal House reference). All that the TX GOP has accomplished is that they managed to throw a life preserver to the drowning Donkeys while tying a millstone around their own necks.

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Oh, come on. The Germans bombing Pearl Harbor line is used frequently on HotAir.

The GOP needs to make it clear that by banning abortions after 20 weeks (at which point some babies are viable) they are banning infanticide. The Democrats are supporting infanticide. The majority of Americans do not (14% is quoted above). Just keep framing the narative correctly-whenever this bill is mentioned or abortion is addressed, restate the issue,
“As you know, I oppose infanticide, so I oppose abortion after 20 weeks.”
“As you know, I support women’s health, so I think major surgical procedures need to be performed in facilities at least as safe as those that perform LASIK.”
Every single time the issue comes up, frame it in those terms.

talkingpoints on July 10, 2013 at 9:35 PM

There’s something special happening in Austin tonight.

NoDonkey on July 10, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Congratulations! For those of you who are pro abortion this I assume is a stinging loss. For those of us who are pro life/anti abortion it is only a small improvement to a rotten law. To the babies involved status quo.

Bmore on July 10, 2013 at 10:16 PM

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Bmore on July 10, 2013 at 10:18 PM

Voices crying out” have been heard for the last two weeks at the capitol, with demonstrators protesting constantly. What Davis is lamenting is that the demonstrators can’t shout the legislature into paralysis, using mob rule to get her way rather than representative democracy.

It’s much more difficult to hear the voices of the babies as they are being killed.

RJL on July 10, 2013 at 11:29 PM

Texas. It WOULD be Texas, of all places. I swear that place is going to be the…capital of something new.

MelonCollie on July 10, 2013 at 11:41 PM

Bmore on July 10, 2013 at 10:18 PM

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I was thinking the same thing ….. whatever it is.

listens2glenn on July 11, 2013 at 1:02 AM

Does this MJ Brutus person often suffer from hysteria?

Meremortal on July 11, 2013 at 1:43 AM

Yes, yes, of course! And that is why it was incredibly dumb for them to tinker with new abortion laws to begin with! While there is never a good time, there are plenty of bad times and there are other times that are SPECTACULARLY bad. Now is one of those.

MJBrutus on July 10, 2013 at 3:59 PM

Because surrendering our principals has won us such great majorities. Well no.

The undecided middle vote is not won by wishywashy the opponents ideas aren’t that bad pandering.

To get the middle’s vote you must inspire them with impassioned speech supported by firm beliefs. And when the liberal reporters asks if you really believe what you have said say “Yes”

Slowburn on July 11, 2013 at 3:13 AM

Scott Walker hasn’t gotten as far as he has by being wobbly. There are moral and ethical reasons for this law. Public support is on our side in this issue regardless of what the press says, yes hispanic support as well. And the press will never, never support a conservative stand.

So quit worrying about the press, get your big-boy shorts on, and do the right thing.

itsspideyman on July 10, 2013 at 4:20 PM

You also missed the point. Either that, or you missed the context of my comment.

It was in response to the whiney mjbrutus complaining that this law would be used by the media to destroy the republicans in elections, to which I pointed out that abortion will always be used that way no matter what the republicans do.

Therefore the concern trolling was meaningless (which I think mjbrutus knows, but it loves abortion more than personal honesty, so….)

runawayyyy on July 11, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Tough break for Windy Davis (Windy, not Wendy. Get it?)

NoPain on July 11, 2013 at 10:28 PM

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