McDonnell, wife received $120,000 from political backer

posted at 2:01 pm on July 10, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell and his wife reportedly received $120,000 from a political backer, and it may be perfectly legal — if otherwise highly questionable. McDonnell’s real-estate company received $70,000 from Jonnie R. Williams, and McDonnell’s wife Maureen received $50,000 directly from Williams, neither of which were reported on campaign-finance disclosures.  But according to Virginia law, neither of the transfers needed to be disclosed:

The payments to the corporation, confirmed by people familiar with the transactions, offer the first public example of money provided by Williams that would directly benefit the governor and not just his family.

The money went from a trust, controlled by Williams, to MoBo Real Estate Partners, a limited-liability corporation formed in 2005 by McDonnell and his sister, the sources said.

McDonnell viewed the payments to MoBo and to his wife as loans and not gifts, according to three people familiar with the transactions. State law requires elected officials to disclose their personal loans but not loans made to their corporate interests. …

“The rules that I’m following have been rules that have been in place for decades,” McDonnell said Tuesday on a Norfolk radio show. “These have been the disclosure rules of Virginia. I’m following those. To, after the fact, impose some new requirements on an official when you haven’t kept record of other gifts given to family members or things like that obviously wouldn’t be fair.”

State law requires the disclosure of any gift valued at more than $50, but gifts to family members are exempt.

Williams also gave $25,000 in two separate gifts to McDonnell’s two daughters to pay for the costs of their weddings, in 2011 and this past May.  That brings the total to $145,000 in cash that Williams has sent to the McDonnells in various forms that went unreported until now.  The Washington Post notes that the McDonnells appear to have provided perhaps a little quid pro quo for the cash, although not exactly through official channels:

Just about the time Cailin McDonnell got married, Williams’s company, Star Scientific, was introducing a dietary supplement called Anatabloc, whose key ingredient is found in tobacco and other plants.

Anatabloc was crucial to the future of the company, which has been losing money for years. But the science behind the product — an anti-inflammatory the company hopes might be helpful to people with such ailments as Alzheimer’s and multiple sclerosis — was unproven.

Three days before her daughter’s June wedding, Maureen McDonnell flew to Florida, where she spoke at a seminar for scientists and investors interested in anatabine, the key chemical in Anatabloc, according to people who attended the conference.

The governor’s wife told the group that she supported the product and touted the pill, which is not regulated by the Food and Drug Administration, as a way to lower health-care costs in Virginia, the attendees said.

About three months after the wedding, the McDonnells and Star Scientific were together again, this time at the governor’s mansion for the official launch party for Anatabloc.

All of this appears to have avoided breaking the law. Not everything that is legal is necessarily moral, however.  Taking this kind of cash as a public servant — whether as “loans” or gifts to one’s spouse and children — looks suspiciously like enriching one’s self through positions of public trust.  While it’s true that the state cannot prosecute McDonnell for actions that don’t violate the law, Virginia voters can certainly look at his actions and the cash he’s managed to accrue from political backers and determine whether McDonnell is exploiting his office for personal gain. I’d certainly like to hear a better explanation than “I didn’t break the law as it exists in Virginia” as an explanation for the cash gifts and “loan” exposed here.

Perhaps it’s time the state of Virginia updated its gift laws to include disclosures for spouses, family members, and businesses for gifts over a floor value.

Update: National Journal argues that quid pro quo corruption is not the only variety:

Right now, though, it’s impossible to say that there was an explicit “this for that” exchange that’s central to conventional political corruption. Yes, Maureen McDonnell did speak to doctors and investors about the benefits of Star Scientific’s Anatabloc supplement, and the product was launched in 2011 at the Virginia Governor’s Mansion. Williams also was able to pitch the product as a cost-cutting boon to a top official from the Virginia Health and Human Resources Department.

But, so far at least, there’s no evidence that any gifts or financial assistance was explicitly given by Williams in exchange for access or assistance for Anatabloc and Star Scientific. Without that, there’s no obvious, quid pro quo political corruption. But in an age of massive campaigns and nonstop fundraising, that’s not the only kind of corruption there can be. …

As Lessig writes, the gift economy can lead to dependency corruption, where even though there is no obvious ill will, dependency on a donor can lead to the deterioration of objectivity when it comes to examining the interests that that donor represents.

The McDonnell situation doesn’t necessarily fit this gift-economy mold perfectly. As Lessig pictures it, the political gift economy is largely a product of campaign fundraising. With McDonnell, in some cases, direct cash was given by Williams. But with “gifts” like the Rolex, the food catering, and the Final Four airfare, some of this is at play.

Is there proof that Williams, in giving those gifts, demanded reciprication for his company? No. At least not yet. But that doesn’t mean that McDonnell and his family weren’t inclined to look at Williams and Star Scientific more favorably because of the financial assistance they were given.

One could say the same about any kind of political contribution, but that’s usually a lot less personal than large gifts to family members.


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How many will excuse this behavior because they agree with his advocacy for unborn babies? This is going to be funny.

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Ah. Another nonscandal for the press to hide.

pat on July 10, 2013 at 2:05 PM

If there is perception that you have done something wrong then you have done something wrong. Politicans have got to be held to a higher standard that regular people. He needs to resign if this is even remotely what it appears at first glance.

Johnnyreb on July 10, 2013 at 2:05 PM

If there is perception that you have done something wrong then you have done something wrong. Politicans have got to be held to a higher standard that regular people. He needs to resign if this is even remotely what it appears at first glance.

Johnnyreb on July 10, 2013 at 2:05 PM

His term is up in January, anyway, so what would be the point? But I do agree that this looks bad, and that he should’ve known HOW it would look when accepting these, er, “loans”.

McDonnell isn’t exactly going out in a blaze of glory (which only helps McAuliffe). There’s also the odd “scandal” involving family members taking stuff from the Executive Kitchen, which he reimbursed the state for.

changer1701 on July 10, 2013 at 2:08 PM

It’s almost cute the way WaPo keeps running stories on this while avoiding stories like this:

Docs: Justice Department facilitated anti-Zimmerman protests

Newly Released Documents Detail the Department of Justice’s Role in Organizing Trayvon Martin Protests

Yes, two wrongs don’t make a right, but I more and more notice the “Oh look – a squirrel” style pieces as things fall apart and show the rot underneath.

Drained Brain on July 10, 2013 at 2:09 PM

I was a big McDonnell supporter in as much as he seemed to be a legitimate R politician, however, this is definitely a major black eye for him. Not sure there’s much that can be explained away here.

I will go ahead and throw out the fact that it was private money makes it at least 20x better than the way the left goes abount grafting all of it’s slush money straight from the public treasury.

Still crap tho.

preallocated on July 10, 2013 at 2:10 PM

I just don’t understand the “investment” in a governor who will soon be out of office and isn’t running for anything else as far as I can see. Is it possible they plan to be partner in the venture after the governor leaves office?

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2013 at 2:11 PM

This is so outrageous and infuriating. Doesn’t matter if it’s “legal” or not…all these gifts and cash rained down on the governors family for what, just to be nice?! I don’t think so. And I loved how when the governor was asked by our local morning radio host if he would look into perhaps changing the law, he said why yes, he was going to perhaps look into it…oh, how big of you, Govenor McDonnell. Fill your pockets and then sound all “concerned” about that law…sickening.

ellifint on July 10, 2013 at 2:11 PM

Don’t look past the possibility that they is a whole lot of nothing being stirred up by the media since tarnishing Republicans as a whole is going to be needed by Terry McAuliffe (sic? to lazy to look up).

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2013 at 2:13 PM

How many will excuse this behavior because they agree with his advocacy for unborn babies? This is going to be funny.

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 2:04 PM

I doubt any Hot Airians will. We’ll see. This has nothing to do with murder. We can separate corruption out.

a capella on July 10, 2013 at 2:14 PM

All of this appears to have avoided breaking the law. Not everything that is legal is necessarily moral, however. Taking this kind of cash as a public servant — whether as “loans” or gifts to one’s spouse and children — looks suspiciously like enriching one’s self through positions of public trust.

It isn’t as if the McDonnells have tried to sell pardons or netted over $100K through cattle futures. It isn’t as if the McDonnells tried to install cronyies in as the Governor’s travel office.

No crime here, McDonnell is term-limited out in January. At what point what difference does it make if the WaPo which is leading the attacks can’t prove actual legal wrong-doing?

Happy Nomad on July 10, 2013 at 2:15 PM

OT and devastating – goons in action

Schadenfreude on July 10, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Giving money, gifts and cushy do nothing jobs to the relatives of politicians is the oldest trick in the book.

NeoKong on July 10, 2013 at 2:16 PM

I hold that if someone looks deeper, they’ll find it’s slimier than it looks already.

Liam on July 10, 2013 at 2:17 PM

How many will excuse this behavior because they agree with his advocacy for unborn babies? This is going to be funny.

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Indefensible. Sorry, I’m unable to follow every aspect of people’s lives. When shown they’re without character, I’m quick to drop them.

Shifting gears, Obama and his wife bought their Chicago home at the height of the real estate boom several years ago. Two media have been remarkably incurious about two points.

First, the seller listed it at $1.65M, yet he miraculously reduced it to $1.35M for the Obamas. Odd?

Second, Tony Rezko’s wife purchased an undeveloped lot adjoining the Obama’s new residence for $625,000. Obama and his wife purchased one-sixth of that lot for $104,500 when Obama had an appraisal saying the sliver of land was worth $40,500. Why did Obama overpay Rezko’s wife $64,000? And why hasn’t Obama reported the overpayment as a gift on a federal gift tax return?

BuckeyeSam on July 10, 2013 at 2:17 PM

I don’t care for the way this smells. I’d like my public servants to have a higher ethical sense and the common sense to realize how bad this kind of behavior looks.

myrenovations on July 10, 2013 at 2:17 PM

How many will excuse this behavior because they agree with his advocacy for unborn babies? This is going to be funny.

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 2:04 PM

If the citizens of Virginia think it should be illegal, then they should work to change the law.

Ward Cleaver on July 10, 2013 at 2:17 PM

In the meanwhile Jon Corzine will not go to prison.

Schadenfreude on July 10, 2013 at 2:18 PM

Wonder how this story would have read if the Govenors name had been Haley….or Perry…or Jindal?

cmarceron on July 10, 2013 at 2:18 PM

How many will excuse this behavior because they agree with his advocacy for unborn babies? This is going to be funny.

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 2:04 PM

The better question is why do you use homosexulity as a slur and insult when someone hands you your arse in a comment thread? Seems you are quite the little bigot and hypocrite. Explain. This is going to be funny.

HumpBot Salvation on July 10, 2013 at 2:18 PM

If there is perception that you have done something wrong (and you are a Republican) then you have done something wrong. Politicans Republicans have got to be held to a higher standard that regular people. He A Republican needs to resign if this is even remotely what it appears at first glance.

Johnnyreb on July 10, 2013 at 2:05 PM

FIFY

Rational Thought on July 10, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Giving money, gifts and cushy do nothing jobs to the relatives of politicians is the oldest trick in the book.

NeoKong on July 10, 2013 at 2:16 PM

pretty much…of course this guy’s an amateur compared to
Dems….but it won’t stop the media.

Anyone who favored this guy in 2016….oh well…

ToddPA on July 10, 2013 at 2:20 PM

McDonnell is another in a line of crooks, however political payoffs are as old as Honus Wagner’s underwear.

The interesting thing will be to watch the intense focus the lib media will train on this story day in and day out, as opposed to a Democratic governor under the same circumstances. NPR should be fun to listen to as they rediscover outrage.

rickyricardo on July 10, 2013 at 2:21 PM

How many will excuse this behavior because they agree with his advocacy for unborn babies? This is going to be funny.

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Well, at least you are beginning to connect the dots.
Once you accept that they ARE babies, you’re almost there.

BTW, I do NOT excuse this behavior. While probably not illegal, it is wrong. Shame on the Gov.

Jabberwock on July 10, 2013 at 2:25 PM

Schadenfreude on July 10, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Timely. Nice if this can hit the blogs and media just as the verdict is being announced and the riots commence.

a capella on July 10, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Schadenfreude on July 10, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Yeah, but Gov. McDonnell!!!

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2013 at 2:29 PM

The better question is why do you use homosexulity as a slur and insult when someone hands you your arse in a comment thread?

Thank you for the laugh. You going to follow me around thread to thread? It might be more effective to cite the specific words you’re referencing. But you know that. There’s a reason you did not.

I stand for gay-rights. I make no apologies for this. I am unwavering. You are probably unable to be so overt in your views because you have are ego-bound to present yourself as hardcore conservative.

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Did the media ever figure out why Michelle Obama’s $300k job of vice President of community outreach was eliminated after she left U Chicago? Or why she was only making $120k in that job until Barack became a Senator?

crrr6 on July 10, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 2:31 PM

you are an insufferable boor. You add nothing to any discussion, so why are you here?

crrr6 on July 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM

crrr6 on July 10, 2013 at 2:31 PM

‘Cause you’re a racist?

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2013 at 2:35 PM

crrr6 on July 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM

+ One Trillion!

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Schadenfreude on July 10, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Hey, Shad. Send that on to Ed or AP. It deserves a thread.

a capella on July 10, 2013 at 2:36 PM

a capella, please send it in yourself. I can’t do it right away.

Schadenfreude on July 10, 2013 at 2:42 PM

How many will excuse this behavior because they agree with his advocacy for unborn babies? This is going to be funny.

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Not as funny as you posting this in a comment thread for an article written by Ed Morrissey doing exactly what you think won’t happen.

gwelf on July 10, 2013 at 2:43 PM

I stand for gay-rights. I make no apologies for this. I am unwavering. You are probably unable to be so overt in your views because you have are ego-bound to present yourself as hardcore conservative.

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 2:31 PM

You are an unwavering bigot and an idiot. No one really gives a flying chit about what you stand for. However, we do enjoy laughing at your hypocrisy by pointing out what a bigot you are.

And your words speak for themselves…as they are not the first time you’ve used homosexulality as a slur. So keep digging, bigot.

HumpBot Salvation on July 10, 2013 at 2:48 PM

I’m in no way defending this guy but I think the most shocking thing out of all of this is that Wapo didn’t choose to have the word “Republican” plastered all over the headline. I’m sure it’s an oversight they will quickly correct.

CapnObvious on July 10, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Lawyer up.

BM just handed his future to KC. KC, please don’t hand it to EW.

Last week we learned that a high powered, well known, Williams and Connelly partner, Emmet T. Flood, was hired by the Governor and met with him at the Governor’s mansion on Tuesday. Hiring Flood is the modern day equivalent to hiring Edward Bennet Williams.

‘Cause you’re a racist?

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Have I ever accused you of being a bigot? Thought so.

I call out those who spew anti-gay venom. What’s wrong with that?

You don’t seem to be much of a bigot. So why condone it? Why excuse so much of it used in your presence? Your’e afraid of scorn; that’s why.

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 2:49 PM

This sounds like a push from Terry McAuliffe oppo “research” in order to deflect from Terry’s own hypocrisy.
http://nationalreview.com/corner/353025/terry-mcauliffe-and-rise-house-ugland-will-allen

onlineanalyst on July 10, 2013 at 2:50 PM

So term limits don’t prevent corruption… But I still want them for Congressmen and Senators

phreshone on July 10, 2013 at 2:51 PM

a capella on July 10, 2013 at 2:36 PM

Ed’s got the thread up already.

Schadenfreude on July 10, 2013 at 2:51 PM

No one really gives a flying chit about what you stand for.

Aside from you addressing me directly to tell me how uninterested you are in addressing me I’d say you’re probably right.

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 2:56 PM

I stand for gay-rights. I make no apologies for this. I am unwavering.

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Except for gays who vote for Republicans, who homophobic Obama bigots like you call Jewish Nazis, demand they be stripped of the right to vote, and tell to kill themselves.

If you were a man, you would condemn this and the Barack Obama Party that supports it. But since you are a pig, a disgusting worthless pig who hates gay people and sees them only as slaves for your Barack Obama, you will not.

northdallasthirty on July 10, 2013 at 2:56 PM

I call out those who spew anti-gay venom.

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Nope.

Little Piggy cowers and runs away when liberals like Alec Baldwin, who Little Piggy worships, use homophobic slurs and then order Little Piggy to forgive them.

northdallasthirty on July 10, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Dumb…. if for no other reason than appearance

theblacksheepwasright on July 10, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Fewer than would excuse Bill Clinton for raping a woman. Gerry Studds for buggering a child. Ted Kennedy for murdering a woman.

You asked. Chump.

MNHawk on July 10, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Can you read? That remark wasn’t directed at you. Ratchet back on the victimhood.

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2013 at 3:04 PM

Aside from you addressing me directly to tell me how uninterested you are in addressing me I’d say you’re probably right.

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 2:56 PM

Yeah, addressing someone = giving a chit about what they have to say. You must be new to the internet or related to the other resident bigot and moron brainfree.

HumpBot Salvation on July 10, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 2:31 PM

you are an insufferable boor. You add nothing to any discussion, so why are you here?

crrr6 on July 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM

He answered the ad:

“Earn money from home by trolling on Conservative sites. Contact http://www.whitehouse.gov for more details.”

portlandon on July 10, 2013 at 3:07 PM

I call out those who spew anti-gay venom.

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 2:49 PM

I’m not going to get involved here, but I’d just like to generally point out one thing:
No matter who does it, trotting out the tired cliche of “spewing venom” does nothing but demonstrate one’s own failure to engage an argument on the merits; instead it shows a preference for “spewing venom” oneself, while simultaneously demonstrating a failure to comprehend irony.

CapnObvious on July 10, 2013 at 3:08 PM

CapnObvious on July 10, 2013 at 3:08 PM

Your moniker fits. Crapitalist Hog is one of the biggest spewers here.

HumpBot Salvation on July 10, 2013 at 3:13 PM

How much money did ‘green energy’ firms dump into Obama’s campaign? No quid pro quo’s there, huh? Of course, I expect the MSM to hold Obama to the same standards they appear they want to hold McDonnell to.

olesparkie on July 10, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Fewer than would excuse Bill Clinton for raping a woman. Gerry Studds for buggering a child. Ted Kennedy for murdering a woman.

You asked. Chump.

MNHawk on July 10, 2013 at 3:02 PM

YES!!! that is a smackdown. Thank you sir may I have another?

Can I get a Mark Foley for posterity?

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 3:19 PM

All puns intended.

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 3:20 PM

Mr. Foley was icky but he broke no laws…..unlike Rep. Franks. Just more of the double standard acceptable by the Left.

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2013 at 3:28 PM

And, this is why people spend millions to get government jobs that pay a fraction of that amount. In this case, the governorship pays about $166,000/year.

Fallon on July 10, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Williams also gave $25,000 in two separate gifts to McDonnell’s two daughters to pay for the costs of their weddings, in 2011 and this past May.

And, what kind of a father lets someone else (non-family) pay for his daughter’s weddings? Inappropriately sleezy if not technically illegal.

Fallon on July 10, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Grrrr… daughters’ weddings

Fallon on July 10, 2013 at 3:36 PM

Your moniker fits. Crapitalist Hog is one of the biggest spewers here.

HumpBot Salvation

I suspect he’s a pretty big swallower too.

xblade on July 10, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Fallon on July 10, 2013 at 3:35 PM

I think pushing the boundaries of “legal” behavior is a deal breaker for most of us. I have to assume that the governor has had his fill of running for office.

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Can I get a Mark Foley for posterity?

Retard Hog

Because consensual sex between adults is just like rape and murder. And here I thought you supported the gays, lol.

xblade on July 10, 2013 at 3:45 PM

I suspect he’s a pretty big swallower too.

xblade on July 10, 2013 at 3:41 PM

You spelled “fantasize” wrong.

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 3:46 PM

@Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 2:04 PM

I live in Virginia Beach and I voted for this guy….

I am not pleased at all with this….
Legal or not….it doesn’t sit right with me.

At a time in our nation when citizens feel that their government is out of touch…..doing stuff like this only fuels that feeling.

Really stupid on his part…..and he ain’t hurting for cash…
Needless to say that any presidential aspirations have now been shot in the head.

MityMaxx on July 10, 2013 at 3:51 PM

MityMaxx on July 10, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Hello, Virginia Beach!!!! I’m from there and spend a lot of time there. I agree with you and have to assume that he has decided public office isn’t for him. He never did take off as the darling of the conservatives as the press said he would.

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2013 at 3:56 PM

When a Democrat pol does this, I shake my head. When a Republican does this, it makes me very angry. I expect this from liberals. It’s SOP. Conservatives should be better than this.

“Legality ” should not be the litmus test as to whether this is OK. Plenty of things are legal but still reprehensible.

spinach.chin on July 10, 2013 at 3:57 PM

@Cindy Munford on July 10, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Hey Cindy….VB is a great place. Love it here.

I don’t know…initially out of the gate he came strong.

But then the whole vaginal probe for abortions
And the bill he produced raising taxes for roads…
And now the endless money he has been taking…

I honestly expected a bit more from this guy….he was a pretty straight-laced person….but I guess once you get in the machine, it is easy to get corrupted.

I was hoping at first for a presidential run from this guy, but after this whole affair….he won’t have my support.

MityMaxx on July 10, 2013 at 3:59 PM

This really makes me mad. I agree with other posters here and this is wrong. YES, it might be legal, but it stinks ethically to high heaven. Remember, prior to Jan. 1, 1863, it was legal in this country for human being to OWN another human being, but was it moral and ethical. HELL NO!! Though I don’t live in Virginia, this Governor really disappoints me. SHAMEFUL BEHAVIOR MR. & MRS. MCDONNELL!!!

devolvingtowardsidiocracy on July 10, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Make this money
Take this money
Ain’t no way you can take this from me
Ain’t shit funny
Make it money
Take this money
Now let’s get it

~Sean ‘Diddy’ Combs

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on July 10, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Hmm…my posts aren’t going up….

Is Hot Air Modding’ me, because I used the phrase “shot in the head”??

Free Speech…. Love it.

MityMaxx on July 10, 2013 at 4:09 PM

@Cindy Munford

For some reason, some of my posts aren’t going up…
But I love VB, it is a great place….and I love being near the water.

MityMaxx on July 10, 2013 at 4:11 PM

YES!!! that is a smackdown. Thank you sir may I have another?

Can I get a Mark Foley for posterity?

Capitalist Hog on July 10, 2013 at 3:19 PM

You could, if he wasn’t immediately run out of office, for just writing about what Gerry Studds acted on.

You’s not very good at this trolling conservative web site thing, are you? Oh well. There’s always the exciting world of food service, to put your Poli Sci degree to work in.

MNHawk on July 10, 2013 at 4:11 PM

SHAMEFUL BEHAVIOR MR. & MRS. MCDONNELL!!!

devolvingtowardsidiocracy on July 10, 2013 at 4:05 PM

And I’m sure you were equally vocal in your hatred of the actions of:

John Corzine
Robert Torreceli
The Clintons and the selling of pardons, cattle futures, looting the White House better than the Brits did in 1814
The Obamas when it comes to their free mob-provided house

Yeah…. didn’t think so.

Happy Nomad on July 10, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Because consensual sex between adults is just like rape and murder. And here I thought you supported the gays, lol.

xblade on July 10, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Mark Foley was the guy who hit on minor congressional pages, as opposed to Gerry Studds who took out out of the country, to have his way with. Foley was run out of office. Studds was re-elected for decades, as it takes corrupt representation to represent a corrupt Massachusetts resident.

MNHawk on July 10, 2013 at 4:15 PM

I expect that the Gov will get a tongue lashing from conservatives for this, illegal or no.

There is a larger point though, the State Media is hounding him over something that is probably not illegal, though likely unethical because he is a conservative (more or less) R and the media can help replace him with a far left D if they can make this stick – and that is the entirety of the reason.

The fact that we will go along with it helps the State Media in their campaign to elect McAuliffe.

Frankly, in a government built on graft with the president as the king thief, I don’t give a rat’s ass about this sort of thing.

If I was an R in VA I think I’d approach this rather dismissively – something like,

“Gov McDonnell made a poor though legal decision that as Governor I will make sure is covered. Now, let’s talk about the laws McAuliffe and Obama have broken and what we can do to make sure they aren’t in a position to benefit from their criminality anymore”

18-1 on July 10, 2013 at 4:22 PM

MityMaxx on July 10, 2013 at 3:59 PM

Yep, I think he is done. I hope the Attorney General doesn’t make any mistakes. I really really like him.

Cindy Munford on July 10, 2013 at 4:29 PM

Well, thinking back on all the times somebody’s dumped six-figure cash on me…

Oh, wait…

Sounds crooked. I don’t care what letter he has after his name. Burn him.

trigon on July 10, 2013 at 5:09 PM

According to the first WaPo article, McDonnell, through his corporation, is the owner of one rental property that was purchased for $1.15 million and another purchased for $835,000. He also has a stake in a mountain resort rental property that was purchased for $1 million, and he owns a house in Richmond that cost him $835,000.

So…perhaps this is quibbling, but given those assets, even assuming they’ve lost value with the economic downturn, I don’t exactly see taking the gifts/loans as him trying to “enrich” himself through a position of public trust. Sounds like he’s already pretty well off–although possibly facing financial struggles (since, apparently, he’s also accepted two other loans from family and one other loan from a family friend).

Anyway…when you’re dealing with assets worth millions, $145,000 doesn’t quite seem like all that much. (Not saying it was a good idea for him to accept the gifts/loans from Williams, just saying knowing more about the financial picture kinda casts a different light on things.)

butterflies and puppies on July 10, 2013 at 5:40 PM

Anyway…when you’re dealing with assets worth millions, $145,000 doesn’t quite seem like all that much. (Not saying it was a good idea for him to accept the gifts/loans from Williams, just saying knowing more about the financial picture kinda casts a different light on things.)

butterflies and puppies on July 10, 2013 at 5:40 PM

I disagree. It makes it even more pitiful that he has someone else pay for his daughters’ weddings. Sounds like he might have a cash flow problem.

I’ve often heard that neither the poor nor the rich like to spend their own money. The poor because they have so little, the rich because they have so much. Coming from humble beginnings, technically, I’m now a 1%-er and I don’t understand the mindset of people like McConnell.

Fallon on July 10, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Ah. Another nonscandal for the press to hide.

pat on July 10, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Nope they will run with this one even if it is a real non-scandal as it is a republican involved. The only way that they can win the governorship in Virgina is to tarnish the republicans as a whole as McDonnell is not running under one term only limit.

tjexcite on July 10, 2013 at 6:33 PM

I disagree. It makes it even more pitiful that he has someone else pay for his daughters’ weddings. Sounds like he might have a cash flow problem.

I’ve often heard that neither the poor nor the rich like to spend their own money. The poor because they have so little, the rich because they have so much. Coming from humble beginnings, technically, I’m now a 1%-er and I don’t understand the mindset of people like McConnell.

Fallon on July 10, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Exactly.

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on July 10, 2013 at 8:14 PM

I disagree. It makes it even more pitiful that he has someone else pay for his daughters’ weddings. Sounds like he might have a cash flow problem.

I’ve often heard that neither the poor nor the rich like to spend their own money. The poor because they have so little, the rich because they have so much. Coming from humble beginnings, technically, I’m now a 1%-er and I don’t understand the mindset of people like McConnell.

Fallon on July 10, 2013 at 6:01 PM

Great. Disagree. But that’s what I said–that it sounds like, given other loans he’s taken out, he’s having financial problems.

My point was that highlighting the $145,000 angle–or, in other stories I’ve read, highlighting the cost of the Rolex–without mentioning his personal wealth (and his other loans) paints a different picture of what is going on. In some minds that might make things look better; in others it no doubt makes things look worse. But either way, there is a pretty big difference between casting McDonnell as a guy of low or average wealth accepting extravagant gifts and using the office to become rich versus casting him as a guy with substantial assets maybe trying to keep them–but not exactly dealing with extravagant amounts of money in comparison to his assets and lifestyle from before he took office.

butterflies and puppies on July 10, 2013 at 8:57 PM

If there is perception that you have done something wrong (and you are a Republican) then you have done something wrong. Politicans Republicans have got to be held to a higher standard that regular people. He A Republican needs to resign if this is even remotely what it appears at first glance.

Johnnyreb on July 10, 2013 at 2:05 PM

FIFY

Rational Thought on July 10, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Well, we just got US Senate to approve a new NV State Federal judge while Reid’s PAC received $300K (2 $150K donations) from partners of the firm she works for.

A pure coincidence, I am sure.

So, we’re now stuck with another communist judge for probably next 40-50 years (she is 42 now).

riddick on July 10, 2013 at 10:40 PM

I just love the defense of this guy because he is a gop. Look corruption knows no party Cozine is a criminal and Mcdonnell is too. They don’t care about political parties at that level. To them its the elites vs the peons. Yeah and guess what we are peons. These people are stealing us blind by hook or by crook and you have people defending this here. At this stage I don’t care what his position is on the issues, what his talking points are, how well he ran VA. He enriched himself on thebacks of those he was suppose to serve. He isn’t any better than the gutter swine that steal $20 bucks for their crack fix. . If any of us did this we would be in jail. I will no longer defend any politician that engages in this type of activity be they republican or dem.

Maybe if more of us would set aside political party Id when these types of things occur and just stand against immoral actions both political parties would get the message. Jesse Jackson JR and Mcdonnell come from the same mold.

unseen on July 11, 2013 at 2:48 AM

A pure coincidence, I am sure.

So, we’re now stuck with another communist judge for probably next 40-50 years (she is 42 now).

riddick on July 10, 2013 at 10:40 PM

funny how the politicians made taking bribes legal. the law means nothing anymore.

unseen on July 11, 2013 at 2:50 AM

Anatabloc was crucial to the future of the company, which has been losing money for years.

Maybe if he didn’t give so much money to politicians, his company could make some money the old fashioned way.

Kissmygrits on July 11, 2013 at 9:04 AM

It looks as if the VA legislature had better get cracking in 2014 and fix some of this. The WAPO has been curiously silent on McDonnell’s troubles. In the past year we have found many loopholes in VA law that need to be addressed. Looks like this is another one.

McDonnell’s political life is over for the time being. The Republican Party is undergoing a sea change and Richmond is fighting it tooth and nail. It’s going to get interesting.

BetseyRoss on July 11, 2013 at 9:35 AM