Good news: Democrats introduce bill to build a national park on the moon or something

posted at 3:21 pm on July 10, 2013 by Allahpundit

The story’s a day old but it’s too exciting not to blog. Not only do we get a new lunar stimulus program out of it, but maybe, if we’re lucky, a new federal Moon Ranger bureaucracy too.

Somewhere Newt Gingrich is reading this headline and thinking, “Go on.”

The bill from Reps. Donna Edwards (D-Md.) and Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-Texas) would create the Apollo Lunar Landing Sites National Historical Park. The park would be comprised of all artifacts left on the surface of the moon from the Apollo 11 through 17 missions.

The bill says these sites need to be protected because of the anticipated increase in commercial moon landings in the future.

“As commercial enterprises and foreign nations acquire the ability to land on the Moon, it is necessary to protect the Apollo lunar landing sites for posterity,” according to the text of the Apollo Lunar Landing Legacy Act, H.R. 2617.

The measure would allow the government to accept donations from companies and foreign governments to help manage the landing sites and “provide visitor services and administrative facilities within reasonable proximity to the Historical Park.”

“Visitor services”? If you’re visiting the moon and you haven’t brought your own “services,” you’ve got bigger problems than sightseeing.

They also want the Apollo sites designated as official UNESCO World Heritage landmarks, which lends an interesting nuance to the word “World.” But that’s probably the only route here to carving out the Apollo sites as no-go areas for the rest of the planet. Under a 1967 UN treaty signed by most countries (including the U.S.), you can’t stake a claim of national sovereignty to any part of outer space. It’s the “province of all mankind.” If Vladimir Putin wants to send a few cosmonauts up to plant a flag with Edward Snowden’s face on it on the Apollo 11 site — a scenario that feels less unlikely than it should, given the state of relations with Russia these days — there’s nothing stopping him legally as far as I know. You’d have to amend the treaty, and even then there’s nothing stopping him in practice besides a strongly-worded White House letter of disapproval. As interventionist as O may be, he’s not about to deploy troops to the moon to protect old landing sites. Or is he?

How did this become a legislative priority worthy of introducing a bill in the House, anyway? The Apollo sites can’t be more than a few acres; commercial interests have the whole rest of the moon to shoot for, and if they end up dumping on a site that’s sacred to Americans, they’ll deal with reprisals here at home. That’s incentive enough to keep them away. Did I miss something important in the news lately about China eyeing a dilithium crystal mine underneath what’s left of a U.S. moon rover and now we need to act fast? Or is this just a way to jumpstart new funding for American space initiatives by appealing to a source of national pride?


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How does this help NASA’s Muslim outreach..?

d1carter on July 10, 2013 at 3:27 PM

The moon belongs to America, and anxiously awaits the arrival of our astro-men. Will you be among them?”

Akzed on July 10, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Or is this just a way to jumpstart new funding for American space initiatives by appealing to a source of national pride?

AP

As unbelievable as it seems, it appears that Democrats have run out of any Earthly things to spend money on.

I am sure the Chinese would gladly lend us money to establish a “No Go” zone on the Moon.

Jabberwock on July 10, 2013 at 3:28 PM

With NASA committed now by Executive Order to do Muslim outreach, will they have time to deal with space missions? Besides, our newest rocket won’t be ready till about 2017.

Democrat need for spending has truly gone out of this world.

Liam on July 10, 2013 at 3:28 PM

This sounds like a public relations ready project for the UN. Let the UN designate those sites as a Human Heritage Site for all mankind. It would be one of those “caring” things the UN is so known for, and best of all, there aren’t any teenaged girls for UN peacekeepers to get at.

RebeccaH on July 10, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Shiny new way to waste yet more money that no one has.

Typical liberal/Democrat thinking. Nothing to see here. Move along.

kim roy on July 10, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Just what we need, more trolling spots.

faraway on July 10, 2013 at 3:32 PM

It’s a typically absurd and pointless gesture to show that Dem-lefties are all spacey and sciencey and stuff despite the fact that they pretty much advocated for and successfully killed all manned space efforts.
.
Also, despite their self-styled image of being ‘smaht’ and super sciencey hip, every left-prog I’ve ever encountered or observed avoid the hard physical sciences and engineering like a vampire avoids sunlight in favor of social,artsy, and creative fields where they can basically just make sh!t up.
.
Which includes, of course, the propaganda alchemy of “journalism”

Dr. Carlo Lombardi on July 10, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Seriously? I must say, honestly, when I first caught sight of the original story’s headline, I thought I’d clicked onto The Onion.

ugottabekiddingme on July 10, 2013 at 3:33 PM

We went to the moon?!?!

abobo on July 10, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Subheadline:

Congress decides late 1970s television show is plausible, decides to act.

allanbourdius on July 10, 2013 at 3:34 PM

As long as its a lunar white house, and Obama and his wife are put there permanently.

portlandon on July 10, 2013 at 3:35 PM

I think these Reps must have come from some other planet!!

Deano1952 on July 10, 2013 at 3:36 PM

They can build a gigantic moon telescope to expand their spying on federal employees.

John the Libertarian on July 10, 2013 at 3:36 PM

Will PortaPottys work on the moon? It’s probably not too early to start drilling down on the details.

a capella on July 10, 2013 at 3:36 PM

Some pols are just idiots. Plain and simple idiots.

madmonkphotog on July 10, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Will PortaPottys work on the moon? It’s probably not too early to start drilling down on the details.

a capella on July 10, 2013 at 3:36 PM

They should. Still, I’d be worried that whatever gets dropped in might bounce.

Liam on July 10, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Bad idea. It may cause the moon to capsize.

WhatSlushfund on July 10, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Congress decides late 1970s television show is plausible, decides to act.

allanbourdius on July 10, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Your forgot this one!

John the Libertarian on July 10, 2013 at 3:40 PM

These two Congress Critters will have some interesting Town Hall meetings this summer.

Jabberwock on July 10, 2013 at 3:41 PM

I’m for it, when we see commercial, private activities on the Moon, I don’t think we want to see the Apollo 11 LEM end up on ebay. But I hope these same Democrats will also help remove the obstacles to commercial space industry development currently being larded on by the Obama Admin…

EasyEight on July 10, 2013 at 3:41 PM

commercial interests have the whole rest of the moon to shoot for, and if they end up dumping on a site that’s sacred to Americans, they’ll deal with reprisals here at home. That’s incentive enough to keep them away.

Exactly. If I’m a commercial outfit looking to tap the Moon’s resources, the very last thing I’m going to do is mess with any of the Apollo gear I come across. If only because of my own appreciation for what it represents.

CurtZHP on July 10, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Both the Obama administration and the DNC should move to Nix (one of Pluto’s moons). From their they could consult with the boatman on Charon about the fare for their trip across the Styx to Hades.

Annar on July 10, 2013 at 3:43 PM

their — there

Annar on July 10, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Your forgot this one!

John the Libertarian on July 10, 2013 at 3:40 PM

I was always more partial to this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=US7IF31wDVM

Liam on July 10, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Oops, need more sleep. The original version was correct.

Annar on July 10, 2013 at 3:46 PM

I was always more partial to this one.

Liam on July 10, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Best theme song in the history of television.

John the Libertarian on July 10, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Alright!! A new place to go camping on vacations.
Can we get there on the intercontinental railroad?

dentarthurdent on July 10, 2013 at 3:49 PM

Under a 1967 UN treaty signed by most countries (including the U.S.), you can’t stake a claim of national sovereignty to any part of outer space. It’s the “province of all mankind.”

Under precedent established by the current President, I’ve decided that the afore-mentioned law doesn’t apply to me. As such, I’ve already claimed the Moon and Mars as my own.

My attorney is in the process of filing claims against anyone who uses pictures of, graphic representations of, descriptions or any other references to either of those planetary bodies. These claims are being filed retroactively for people who infringed upon my property historically as well.

Midas on July 10, 2013 at 3:50 PM

commercial interests have the whole rest of the moon to shoot for, and if they end up dumping on a site that’s sacred to Americans, they’ll deal with reprisals here at home. That’s incentive enough to keep them away.

Pffft, like anyone gives a crap what Americans think or hold sacred anymore (least of all our own government). That Americans hold it sacred – and would assuredly do *nothing* in reprisal – would be ample motivation for those folks to take those artifacts, trash the place, then sell them on eBay when they return to Earth.

‘Reprisals’, lol. What quaint notion.

Midas on July 10, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Dumb as a box of moon rocks.

ButterflyDragon on July 10, 2013 at 3:54 PM

Best theme song in the history of television.

John the Libertarian on July 10, 2013 at 3:48 PM

At the risk of hijacking the thread, I’m going to have to go ahead and disagree with you on that one.

CurtZHP on July 10, 2013 at 3:55 PM

If you’re visiting the moon and you haven’t brought your own “services,” you’ve got bigger problems than sightseeing.

They mean permits to enter the parks and permission fees to take pictures and pose with the detritus artifacts. Sheesh.

This bill is just a way to create another sop for some cronies to be employed by the bill sponsors via “allow(ing) the government to accept donations from companies and foreign governments” and I have little doubt they have some cronies in mind.

Dusty on July 10, 2013 at 3:55 PM

Gee, I was wondering what we were going to do with all that money laying around. Someone gets to create an office for the lunar national park and appoint a crony to staff it.

crosspatch on July 10, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Aren’t ‘national’ parks generally within a nation’s geographical boundaries?

Why, yes, yes, they are!

Why isn’t Sheila ‘Dora the Explorer’ Jackson-Lee a co-sponsor of this legislation? Is it because she wants to create a national park on Mars, where Neil Armstrong ACTUALLY planted the flag in 1969?

‘Did the Mars Rover take any images of the flag Neil Armstrong planted on Mars?’

- Sheila ‘Weapons Grade Stupid’ Jackson-Lee, recipient of a Doctorate in Genius from Dunceville Online University, #1 Strip Mall Boulevard, Idiot City, TA(rd), United States

…which caused her colleague, Vernon Ehlers, to sigh and state:

‘We don’t teach enough science in this country.’

Sadly, idjits like SJL, Hank Johnson, Donna Edwards, and Eddie Bernice Johnson need a whole lot more than a science education.

Resist We Much on July 10, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Now, build a spaceship large enough to transport all of those idiots to the moon so they can manage their park. Stupid dolts.

rplat on July 10, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-Texas)

*facepalm*

I apologize as a native Texan on behalf of our Great State for the infliction of this moonbat idiot on the nation…she’s had that district 30 locked up since 1993.

workingclass artist on July 10, 2013 at 4:02 PM

hmmm.. Best TV theme song

faraway on July 10, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Some pols are just idiots. Plain and simple idiots.

[madmonkphotog on July 10, 2013 at 3:38 PM]

Apparently you underestimate the number of suckers future oriented philanthropists who would contribute to this scam worthwhile endeavor, including Congress in subsequent fiscal years.

Dusty on July 10, 2013 at 4:05 PM

And they laughed at Newt for the Moon Base thingy during the campaigns

Electrongod on July 10, 2013 at 4:05 PM

As long as Government is fully functional and operational before people live there..

“’cause you didn’t build it…”

Electrongod on July 10, 2013 at 4:07 PM

hmmm.. Best TV theme song

faraway on July 10, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Dude…The ONLY Moonbat Theme is the original from Space.1999
(The Moonbat Moonbase TeeVee show)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLhdY6_juDk

workingclass artist on July 10, 2013 at 4:07 PM

And they laughed at Newt for the Moon Base thingy during the campaigns

Electrongod on July 10, 2013 at 4:05 PM

I’m OK with building a permanent penal colony there…

Moonbat GITMO.

workingclass artist on July 10, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Since when is the moon sovereign territory of the US?

BobMbx on July 10, 2013 at 4:17 PM

And they laughed at Newt for the Moon Base thingy during the campaigns

Electrongod on July 10, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Well, hey – that was just plain ridiculous…
Now a national park on the other hand makes soooooooo much more sense…….

dentarthurdent on July 10, 2013 at 4:17 PM

I’ve only stopped at a visitor center once. Everyone, myself included, had the same question:

Which way to the turnpike?

I’m guessing the guy pointing into the sky and saying:

238,900 miles that way

would not be considered helpful to anyone.

gekkobear on July 10, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-Texas)

*facepalm*

I apologize as a native Texan on behalf of our Great State for the infliction of this moonbat idiot on the nation…she’s had that district 30 locked up since 1993.

workingclass artist on July 10, 2013 at 4:02 PM

That’s ok… I understand why it happens. It’s math & redistricting. I posted this the other day (so I have the math handy).

Lets say you’ve got a state with 550 Dems and 550 Repubs; and 11 districts to make.

If you can get the Dems to claim it’s “racist” not to give them serious majority districts and actually rail for a couple 95/5 split districts… you’re set.

95/5
95/5
That’s their 2 districts.
Now you’ve got 9 more, that are 40/60 that you’ll win most of the time.

95 * 2 + 40 * 9 = 550
5 * 2 + 60 * 9 = 550

9 votes out of 11 from an even split is worth having the other two votes be brainless in my book. And the Dems fight tooth & nail to avoid redistricting from changing those districts.

I’m guessing math wasn’t something they studies in school.

gekkobear on July 10, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Until I see exactly how many acres they want to cord off, I’m gonna suspect that this is more a means to prevent commercialization of space, than anything else.

Also, that flipping Space Sovereignty needs to be amended. It’ll be ignored outright eventually, so we might as well get ahead of it and amend it in a manner that limits governments overt involvement with extra planetary regulation, while still allowing commercial enterprises.

WolvenOne on July 10, 2013 at 4:25 PM

I’m going to have to go ahead and disagree with you on that one.

CurtZHP on July 10, 2013 at 3:55 PM

Gimme that sweet, that nasty, that funky stuff.

John the Libertarian on July 10, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Hahaha! My district.

anuts on July 10, 2013 at 4:27 PM

The measure would allow the government to accept donations from companies and foreign governments to help manage the landing sites and “provide visitor services and administrative facilities within reasonable proximity to the Historical Park.”

The only national park where Smokey doesn’t have to worry about forest fires.

But seriously, the very idea of creating a park with “vistor services” in a location that only very rich people can visit makes perfect sense. My guess is that Ms. Edwards and Mr. Johnson have too many unemployable kinfolk to simply foist on the government in the usual way. We’ll soon find out that the moon ranger’s facilities are within reasonable proximity to the moon if they are located in MD or Texas with facsimiles of the artifacts and moonscape of the “real” park.

Happy Nomad on July 10, 2013 at 4:31 PM

“As commercial enterprises and foreign nations acquire the ability to land on the Moon, it is necessary to protect the Apollo lunar landing sites for posterity,” according to the text of the Apollo Lunar Landing Legacy Act, H.R. 2617.

Gee, how many people are rich enough to pay for the spaceships, rockets, and supplies necessary to get them to the Moon and back?

And if a foreign government wanted to desecrate one of the Apollo landing sites, who would stop them? Are we going to post American troops around them to protect them?

I’ve got a cheaper idea…put enough people to protect American landing sites on Earth in California, Arizona, New Mexico, and Texas from invasion from the south. They wouldn’t even need spaceships, rockets, or space suits.

Steve Z on July 10, 2013 at 4:32 PM

“…the space shuttle program {is} cutting back now, or ending, after this next flight…” WH in May 2011

‘Evolving’ for political purposes (Texas & Florida)?

socalcon on July 10, 2013 at 4:33 PM

Hahaha! My district.

anuts on July 10, 2013 at 4:27 PM

The moon is your district?

Happy Nomad on July 10, 2013 at 4:33 PM

I’m OK with building a permanent penal colony there…

Moonbat GITMO.

workingclass artist on July 10, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Well, I’m not. What is the point of having a perfectly good sun if we don’t use it for garbage disposal?

Happy Nomad on July 10, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Does the Federal Government owe a lot of money or something?

Oil Can on July 10, 2013 at 4:37 PM

NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said in a recent interview that his “foremost” mission as the head of America’s space exploration agency is to improve relations with the Muslim world.

July 5th 2010.

Hmm, the moon. That’s an idea.

socalcon on July 10, 2013 at 4:38 PM

I’m OK with building a permanent penal colony there…

Moonbat GITMO.

workingclass artist on July 10, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Well, I’m not. What is the point of having a perfectly good sun if we don’t use it for garbage disposal?

Happy Nomad on July 10, 2013 at 4:37 PM

*snicker*

workingclass artist on July 10, 2013 at 4:44 PM

What, no ‘lunatic’ jokes?

Fenris on July 10, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Your forgot this one!

John the Libertarian on July 10, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Oh man, I had forgotten about that show…and after watching the vid I remember why I had forgotten it! What a crap fest that show was!

It’s amazing to me that here we are in the year 2013 and we aren’t anywhere near being able to explore space in the manner depicted in Space:1999 let alone 2001: A Space Odyssey or 2010: The Year We Make Contact!

I believe the reason we are not further along is because our space exploration has been run by the gubment. Had space exploration been handed to the private sector we may already be colonizing the moon and mars by now!

But yeah, lets setup a national park on the moon…I mean really? Can we now say the Dems have lost their ever living minds…this is truly moon-battery…no pun intended!!

Liberty or Death on July 10, 2013 at 4:46 PM

gekkobear on July 10, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Eddie Bernice Johnson 77 so maybe she’ll stroke out…Sheila Jackson Lee a NY yankee serving Houston is only 63 but she’s also fat along with stupid…maybe she’ll have a widow maker.

They both embarrass Texas.

But I digress.

workingclass artist on July 10, 2013 at 4:49 PM

…no pun intended!!

Liberty or Death on July 10, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Nor needed.

Jabberwock on July 10, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Reps. Donna Edwards (D-Md.) and Eddie Bernice Johnson (D-Texas)

Meet DUMB and DUMBER.

GarandFan on July 10, 2013 at 4:59 PM

NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said in a recent interview that his “foremost” mission as the head of America’s space exploration agency is to improve relations with the Muslim world.

July 5th 2010.

Hmm, the moon. That’s an idea.

socalcon on July 10, 2013 at 4:38 PM

The crescent moon, anyway.

James on July 10, 2013 at 5:22 PM

Somewhere Newt Gingrich is reading this headline and thinking, “Go on.”

That was my first thought when I heard about this Dem plan.

onlineanalyst on July 10, 2013 at 5:34 PM

Somewhere Newt Gingrich is reading this headline and thinking, “Go on.”

Heh. My first chuckle of the day.

Cleombrotus on July 10, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Is the moon the 58th state Obama was going to visit?

Speechlesstx on July 10, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Newt Gingrich hardest hit.

How can he sign on to a Democrat proposal-wait, it shows he’s bipartisan.

talkingpoints on July 10, 2013 at 5:59 PM

ObamaCare

ObamaPhone

ObamaMoon

…its clearly a natural progression.

Just wait until its time to run the Keystone Pipeline to the moon…

PermanentWaves on July 10, 2013 at 6:35 PM

You think democrats will fund a space program that will include a return to the moon? Really?

Owain on July 10, 2013 at 6:36 PM

Maybe they’re homesick.

Axe on July 10, 2013 at 6:59 PM

another example of moonbat economic policy…

“For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction.”
Isaac Newton’s Law of Motion

“DC Democrats Pass $12.50 Minimum Wage Law… Wal-Mart Cancels Three Store Openings…

Within hours of the decision Wal-Mart announced it was canceling three store openings in the area.
Nice work, Democrats.
WTOP reported:

The D.C. Council has passed a bill that would require large retailers like Wal-Mart to pay workers at least $12.50.

The bill now goes to Mayor Vincent Gray for his consideration. The 8-5 vote was short of the votes needed to override a veto from the mayor.

In a statement, Wal-Mart says the Council has forced the retailer’s hands and it will abandon three planned projects in the District.

“We will not pursue Skyland, Capitol Gateway, and New York Avenue and will start to review the financial and legal implications on the three stores already under construction. This was a difficult decision for us – and unfortunate news for most D.C. residents – but the Council has forced our hand,” the written statement says…”

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/07/dc-democrats-pass-12-50-minimum-wage-law-wal-mart-cancels-three-store-openings/

workingclass artist on July 10, 2013 at 7:00 PM

Might as well. Need somewhere to go after they destroy this planet.

RdLake on July 10, 2013 at 7:23 PM

Maybe if we can get Gru to shrink the moon again we can just put it in the Smithsonian so everyone can enjoy our new park…..

dentarthurdent on July 10, 2013 at 11:25 PM

So, on the off chance there someday turn out to be resources that can be profitably extracted from the moon, they want to be able to block it.

Turning the moon into another ANWR, basically.

LagunaDave on July 11, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Everybody lighten up. I was a big fan of the moon when I was in high school.

I kind of like thinking of my A$$ as a “National Historical Landmark.” Maybe I can government funding for its upkeep.

NoPain on July 11, 2013 at 1:46 PM