Sigh: D.C. Council poised to chase off 900 jobs because they don’t like Wal-Mart, so there

posted at 10:01 pm on July 9, 2013 by Mary Katharine Ham

A couple lessons, here. First, businesses are not obligated to open in your city or your neighborhood, particularly when you incentivize them to locate elsewhere. Washington, D.C. is particularly susceptible to losing potential jobs (particularly in entry-level and working class retail positions, as opposed to lobbyist slots) to nearby jurisdictions because it doesn’t take much to simply cross the bridge to friendlier climes in, say, Virginia.

Second, as Sonny Bunch reminds us of a lesson from Econ 101, hiking the minimum wage kills jobs.

Here’s the haps. In Washington, Wal-Mart, the city council, the grocery store unions, and a thousand Wal-Mart hating community groups have been engaged in a delicate, dumb dance for years over whether the giant retailer should be allowed within the hallowed precincts of the District of Columbia. Other big box stores are allowed— Best Buy, Target, and Home Depot for example—but the mother of all box stores has been picketed and pushed and generally trashed throughout its attempts to set down some retail roots. The parties seemed to be coming to an agreement on three stores inside the District, predicted to bring 900 full and part-time jobs and some fresh grocery options to those so-called “food deserts” you hear about.

But the agreement might fall apart over a “living wage” bill, which requires a segment of retailers that sounds suspiciously like “retailers that are Wal-Mart” to pay far and above D.C.’s $8.25 minimum wage:

Representatives from Wal-Mart say the company will no longer build its planned stores at Skyland Town Center and Capitol Gateway, retail sites in Ward 7. “They’re not bluffing me,” Councilmember Yvette Alexander (D-Ward 7) says, having just left a meeting with the world’s largest retailer. “We worked for many years to get this commitment. I really didn’t think it would get to this point.”

The Large Retailer Accountability Act requires companies that take in at least $1 billion in revenue annually to pay their employees at least $12.50 an hour, well above the District’s minimum wage of $8.25. The bill also only applies to stores that are at least 75,000 square feet, thus exempting companies like Apple and Starbucks.

Isn’t the carve-out for liberal-approved billion-dollar retailers precious? Wal-Mart’s announcement is enough to make some reconsider and see the big picture:

In addition to the two Ward 7 stores, Alexander’s chief of staff, Ed Fisher, also says Wal-Mart’s move imperils a store planned for New York Avenue and Bladensburg Road NE. Councilmember Kenyan McDuffie (D-Ward 5), who represents that area, was one of eight “yes” votes on the bill’s first reading.

“That was without knowing Wal-Mart was going to pull out,” says Jeannette Mobley, McDuffie’s chief of staff. Mobley says her boss is “going to give this some thought” before tomorrow’s Council session.

Fisher says each planned Walmart was going to have at least 300 full- and part-time employees, as well as enhance food shopping options in Ward 7, where there are only four full-service supermarkets. “We’re going to have fewer options for groceries and commercial retail,” Fisher says. “At least 900 people won’t have an opportuntiy whether it’s full-time or part-time. Whether it’s a student in high school or a senior or a job someone can use as a stepping stone.”

As Bunch puts it: “So instead of decreasing the unemployment rate in blighted Washington, D.C., neighborhoods, there will be no jobs. Good job, guys! You really nailed this whole ‘governance’ thing.”

The argument from the left is a petulant cry of, “Hey, the Waltons are real rich and they can’t afford to pay $12.50 an hour?!” Again, they’re not obligated to bring their stores to your city when you’re actively trying to make it harder for them to do business there, especially when they have other options nearby. In the same way, gun accessory manufacturers are not obligated to stay in your state when you’re banning their products. In the same way, smart, talented people are not obligated to be doctors when the cost of becoming a doctor and maintaining malpractice insurance isn’t worth the financial rewards of being a doctor. Incentives matter, and free people respond to them.

Oh, and if the D.C. Council does end up blocking Wal-Mart in the city, it’ll be great fun to watch them all later endorse former Wal-Mart board of directors member Hillary Clinton.

(For the record, though I’m defending Wal-Mart here, I’m not always down with the ways the company colludes with government to get into certain communities, via eminent domain, for instance.)


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…Smart Power!

KOOLAID2 on July 9, 2013 at 10:06 PM

The Economic Development Administration advised DC to let Wal-Mart open their stores and then destroy them – burning them to the ground – claiming that they were full of malware.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 9, 2013 at 10:08 PM

The did that in LA, too.

Blake on July 9, 2013 at 10:08 PM

Good, the left can live in the leftist utopia they built, with no jobs, and no place to buy groceries.

Raquel Pinkbullet on July 9, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Yet they’ll keep reelecting their douchy representatives.

22044 on July 9, 2013 at 10:09 PM

The argument from the left is a petulant cry

Logical consequences, etc.

Sometimes folks learn, sometimes they don’t.

Bruno Strozek on July 9, 2013 at 10:10 PM

This sort of thing happened in Chicago a couple of years ago. The city said no and WalMart proceeded to build in Deer Park, on property it obtained that abutted the Chicago city limits. When they opened and started hiring, nearly a thousand applied for the few hundred jobs. Now Deer Park get the benefits of the property tax and other shopping related revenue. Sorry, Chicago…

Ace ODale on July 9, 2013 at 10:11 PM

“… so there”

And… “Shut Up!”

Seven Percent Solution on July 9, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Oh, and if the D.C. Council does end up blocking Wal-Mart in the city, it’ll be great fun to watch them all later endorse former Wal-Mart board of directors member Hillary Clinton.

…ok!…that was funny!

KOOLAID2 on July 9, 2013 at 10:13 PM

Why bother? The store will end up a convenient site anytime the loonbat community wants to protest something or other with their minimum wage-paid Craigslist protesters.

slickwillie2001 on July 9, 2013 at 10:13 PM

…Smart Power!

KOOLAID2 on July 9, 2013 at 10:06

PM

Stole my post… well done!!

Khun Joe on July 9, 2013 at 10:13 PM

What if this whole crusade’s A charade?
And behind it all there’s a price to be paid
For the blood on which we dine
Justified in the name of the holy and the divine

Just how deep do you believe?
Will you bite the hand that feeds?
Will you chew until it bleeds?


Nine Inch Nails

Socratease on July 9, 2013 at 10:14 PM

Yay! Hooray for Walmart! Walmart is teh awesome! And seriously, let’s LOWER minimum wage — it’s obviously much too high.

HB3 on July 9, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Tuscon too. “big box” ordinance. Ran millions in revenue and a lot of jobs out of town. After a contract, so we’ll get sued too.

wolly4321 on July 9, 2013 at 10:17 PM

What if this whole crusade’s A charade?
And behind it all there’s a price to be paid
For the blood on which we dine
Justified in the name of the holy and the divine

Just how deep do you believe?
Will you bite the hand that feeds?
Will you chew until it bleeds?

Nine Inch Nails

Indeed, I have it on good authority that that song is about Walmart.

HB3 on July 9, 2013 at 10:17 PM

The bill also only applies to stores that are at least 75,000 square feet, thus exempting companies like Apple and Starbucks.

Just make the store 72,000 sq. ft. problem solved

RickB on July 9, 2013 at 10:20 PM

(For the record, though I’m defending Wal-Mart here, I’m not always down with the ways the company colludes with government to get into certain communities, via eminent domain, for instance.)

Good point – Walmart, in some respects, serves as a de facto extension of the Federal government. I’m happy that I live closer to Target.

But here, they have all the leverage. They could pay a lower wage, but as artificially high wages pump up consumer costs, conversely a lower wage can be offset by lower consumer costs and a bit of good roughing-it frugality.

22044 on July 9, 2013 at 10:21 PM

And the flaming idiot voters who put these people in power won’t think twice about voting for them again.

GarandFan on July 9, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Liberals- Screwing over America Every Chance they Get.

CW on July 9, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Typical! Tell Walmart to take a hike. Soon there will be complaints about a “food desert.”

indypat on July 9, 2013 at 10:26 PM

The DC City Council also loves its Unions. And Wal Mart is solidly Right To Work.

Lots of better locations in Virginia, anyway.

Jack Deth on July 9, 2013 at 10:29 PM

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Ta111 on July 9, 2013 at 10:29 PM

…what’s a Democrat to do?

KOOLAID2 on July 9, 2013 at 10:29 PM

http://www.stopelconwlmrt.com/

Tuscon again. They lost. We’re building it. But they got denied a booze permit by city council.

Never ending war. For an effing store.

wolly4321 on July 9, 2013 at 10:30 PM

Yay! Hooray for Walmart! Walmart is teh awesome! And seriously, let’s LOWER minimum wage — it’s obviously much too high.

HB3 on July 9, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Because no jobs are better than those jobs. Got it.

Did you READ the entire MKH article? Or do you just like to cut your nose just to spite your face, too?

Jeff Weimer on July 9, 2013 at 10:30 PM

Why would any retailer put stores in the hoods?They become a shoplifter,hot check mecca.Not to mention the trouble in the parking lots.

docflash on July 9, 2013 at 10:33 PM

Imagine! They want to build a place for the Peasants to shop. How dare they.

countrybumpkin on July 9, 2013 at 10:33 PM

This is what the people of DC voted for.

vityas on July 9, 2013 at 10:35 PM

http://www.stopelconwlmrt.com/

Tuscon again. They lost. We’re building it. But they got denied a booze permit by city council.

Never ending war. For an effing store.

wolly4321 on July 9, 2013 at 10:30 PM

The same El Con mall that has been out of business for 20 years.

RickB on July 9, 2013 at 10:36 PM

This is why Progressives HATE free markets.

Because a company can say “nah, see ya” and go somewhere else and the control freaks that Progressives are just get even pissier.

D.C. is fine being attached to the teat of the Federal Sow anyway and those race hustlers/government pimps gotta keep those black folks hating the rich crackers.

Kind of like the Palestinians needing to make the Jews the focus of all evil to the poor Arabs so they can keep them under their own thumb and needing the Muzzie leadership of Abbas and Fatah and Hezbollah, etc.

PappyD61 on July 9, 2013 at 10:40 PM

Rich limo-libs don’t shop at Walmart, but they’re for the little guy and don’t ever forget it.

One more thing, don’t look at those rich libs as they’re walking down the street; know your place, serf.

Bishop on July 9, 2013 at 10:43 PM

RickB- yep. That’s the one.

wolly4321 on July 9, 2013 at 10:44 PM

Again, they’re not obligated to bring their stores to your city when you’re actively trying to make it harder for them to do business there, especially when they have other options nearby.

Yet.

In the same way, gun accessory manufacturers are not obligated to stay in your state when you’re banning their products.

Yet.

In the same way, smart, talented people are not obligated to be doctors when the cost of becoming a doctor and maintaining malpractice insurance isn’t worth the financial rewards of being a doctor.

Yet.

Incentives matter, and free people respond to them.

Yes.

Axe on July 9, 2013 at 10:45 PM

Anti-capitalism is so fashionable.

Axion on July 9, 2013 at 10:47 PM

One of our family designs Walmarts. One chitown store had 25,000 applications and one had 15,000
It is harder to get hired at Walmart than to get accepted at Harvard.
In Chicago, Walmart remodeled one vacant shopping center.

seven on July 9, 2013 at 10:48 PM

I’ll bet a WalMart would be a target rich enviorment just in case a riot or something happened to break out. Poor planning by the community governing body.

a capella on July 9, 2013 at 10:48 PM

Axe- oh we give incentives. To the “art” district. Free rent in city owned properties,, all kinds of good stuff. To the right people.

wolly4321 on July 9, 2013 at 10:52 PM

The Economic Development Administration advised DC to let Wal-Mart open their stores and then destroy them – burning them to the ground – claiming that they were full of malware.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 9, 2013 at 10:08 PM

We better give a FYI to Walmart, LOL

bluefox on July 9, 2013 at 10:57 PM

Axe- oh we give incentives. To the “art” district. Free rent in city owned properties,, all kinds of good stuff. To the right people.

wolly4321 on July 9, 2013 at 10:52 PM

No one ever looks for 2. :)

1. Make new light bulbs. Subsidize.

2. Make old light bulbs illegal.

. . . who was sued by France and forced to stay? The wanted to close and leave, and they were prohibited by law . . . they are just getting past it . . . Ug! This just happened! :) C’mon brain

Axe on July 9, 2013 at 10:59 PM

it’ll be great fun to watch them all later endorse former Wal-Mart board of directors member Hillary Clinton.

Hillary hasn’t been on WalMart’s board for 20 years. She left in 1992.

crosspatch on July 9, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Ward 7, where there are only four full-service supermarkets

.
I’ve only got three full-service supermarkets in my precinct. I’m oppressed and deprived! I demand parity and equality!

ExpressoBold on July 9, 2013 at 11:13 PM

Did you READ the entire MKH article?
Jeff Weimer on July 9, 2013 at 10:30 PM

No. Oh that was rhetorical, nevermind.

Why would any retailer put stores in the hoods?

101 million people in this country get $ from the gov for food. Food stamps spend just like cash, especially at WalMart.

Rich limo-libs don’t shop at Walmart, but they’re for the little guy and don’t ever forget it.
One more thing, don’t look at those rich libs as they’re walking down the street; know your place, serf.
Bishop on July 9, 2013 at 10:43 PM

Was trying to think of something funny to say, but pretty much this.

Fett on July 9, 2013 at 11:14 PM

And the flaming idiot voters who put these people in power won’t think twice about voting for them again.

GarandFan on July 9, 2013 at 10:22 PM

The same voters that keep on voting for Marion Barry? Those voters?

Oldnuke on July 9, 2013 at 11:14 PM

Ug! This just happened! :) C’mon brain

Axe on July 9, 2013 at 10:59 PM

.
Goodyear, Firestone, a tire manufacturing company. Not Michelin, though.

ExpressoBold on July 9, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Yay! Hooray for Walmart! Walmart is teh awesome! And seriously, let’s LOWER minimum wage — it’s obviously much too high.

HB3 on July 9, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Proof Liberalism is a mental disorder. This one thinks the article was about an effort by Walmart to ultimately LOWER the minimum wage. Fails to see how the government was trying to single out a retailer to pay more than their competitors and Walmart not being willing to pay along with that kind of BS. Because he’s a lib he sees this as “fair.”

Forget the fact that over 75% of Walmart store managers were people who started out as sales associates or stock boys and worked their way up the ladder by showing up and working hard. They went from making minimum wage to making $120,000/yr or more. Those jobs don’t require college degrees. Sounds like a founding principle of America.

It’s even more laughable when they compare the CEO’s salary to the wage of a sales associate. The two jobs are vastly different in knowledge, risk and experience requirements, but this doesn’t matter to libs.

Most libs I know have never run a business, or failed when they did because they fail basic understanding of economics. Then they fear what they can’t understand.

goflyers on July 9, 2013 at 11:24 PM

Kill jobs, lower tax revenue, and make products more expensive for your citizens. Not a four bagger but a SOLID three bagger in leftist basebal…er utopiaball.

jukin3 on July 9, 2013 at 11:34 PM

Why would any retailer put stores in the hoods?

There’s more money than you think in doing so. You can scarcely throw a rock without hitting a food-stamp scam rings run between “big box marts” and the Democrat-voting welfare masses.

MelonCollie on July 9, 2013 at 11:35 PM

Yay! Hooray for Walmart! Walmart is teh awesome! And seriously, let’s LOWER minimum wage — it’s obviously much too high.

HB3 on July 9, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Stupid azzed liberal. Demand they get paid $10 per hour. But borrow 1 trillion per year. So they make $3 per hour. With no interest included on the debt. No state or sales taxes. No Obozocare.

You’re just a frickin genius aren’t ya.

WryTrvllr on July 9, 2013 at 11:41 PM

Goodyear, Firestone, a tire manufacturing company. Not Michelin, though.

ExpressoBold on July 9, 2013 at 11:16 PM

Yes! Thank you! Titan, Goodyear. The real source on it I clobbered I guess; it’s been a battle. But this sort of flops into the middle of it all:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2281671/Goodyear-tyre-plant-American-tycoon-refuses-rescue-French-tyre-factory-workers-lazy-overpaid-talk-much.html

Thank you! :)

Axe on July 9, 2013 at 11:46 PM

Thank you! :)

Axe on July 9, 2013 at 11:46 PM

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Oh, you are very welcome! :)

ExpressoBold on July 9, 2013 at 11:51 PM

I don’t think Lachlan Markay understands how economics works. Just because an employer doesn’t move in doesn’t make its potential hires unemployed. Besides, isn’t D.C. booming, courtesy of our federal government? Not surprising they’d feel they could spurn WalMart under those conditions.

Anyway, it’s just as bad as those communities that allow WalMart to pocket the sales tax they charge you and me to incentivize them to move in. How about just making no special laws for WalMart, for or against?

calbear on July 9, 2013 at 11:54 PM

Anyway, it’s just as bad as those communities that allow WalMart to pocket the sales tax they charge you and me to incentivize them to move in. How about just making no special laws for WalMart, for or against?

calbear on July 9, 2013 at 11:54 PM

Or Boeing to Chicago. Makes you wonder what they understand that you don’t seem to get.

WryTrvllr on July 10, 2013 at 12:20 AM

(For the record, though I’m defending Wal-Mart here, I’m not always down with the ways the company colludes with government to get into certain communities, via eminent domain, for instance.)

Wal-Mart was a huge supporter of ObamaCare. I take my business to Target.

Caiwyn on July 10, 2013 at 12:21 AM

With lions running wild in the streets, the government shoots the lion hunters! Great work guys!!

MaiDee on July 10, 2013 at 12:37 AM

Wal-Mart was a huge supporter of ObamaCare. I take my business to Target.

Caiwyn on July 10, 2013 at 12:21 AM

Isn’t Target owned by DAYTON-Hudson?

WryTrvllr on July 10, 2013 at 12:37 AM

(For the record, though I’m defending Wal-Mart here, I’m not always down with the ways the company colludes with government to get into certain communities, via eminent domain, for instance.)

Wal-Mart was a huge supporter of ObamaCare. I take my business to Target.

Caiwyn on July 10, 2013 at 12:21 AM

Wal-Mart’s a great success story here in America, and I admire many things about Sam Walton’s innovations in retail.

That being said, they are a company and naturally they are going to do what’s best for themselves and their stockholders. Wal-Mart is/was a driving force behind sending American manufacturing jobs to China. And I didn’t see in that list of the usual Libtard/union suspects anything about small retailers being in opposition-that would be a first, but I think they were conveniently not mentioned in order to perpetuate our brand of propaganda by omission.

Be that as it may, I think they’re not wise in turning down this opportunity.

Oh, and if the D.C. Council does end up blocking Wal-Mart in the city, it’ll be great fun to watch them all later endorse former Wal-Mart board of directors member Hillary Clinton.

Shrillary was on the board when there was a high profile strike that ended up going nowhere back in the ’80s-GOP should remember that for possible future reference. Yeah, she really stood up for the unions. These union folks need to wise up and admit that these Libs couldn’t care less about them and go with the pols (if there are any left) that support free enterprise and real economic growth (if that’s even possible anymore).

Speaking of strikes, we may have to admit to ourselves that in the future national strikes might become common as things get worse.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 10, 2013 at 1:21 AM

In the same way, smart, talented people are not obligated to be doctors when the cost of becoming a doctor and maintaining malpractice insurance isn’t worth the financial rewards of being a doctor.

Yeah right, doctors in America are among the most overpaid people in the world. In the rest of the world, doctors make a fraction of what they make here, yet the rest of the world still has doctors, doesn’t it? The US health care system doesn’t function well on capitalistic principles because people have no choice when it comes to health care, unlike other purchases, they HAVE to get that operation, and to make matters worse, doctors simply aren’t willing to compete. You can blame all the regulation and insurance system, but that fact is that what we have NOW is American health care sure isn’t free market capitalism.

kaltes on July 10, 2013 at 1:27 AM

Obedience to the social/marxist/union/statist model is always more important to the moonbat than food on tables of unemployed Americans.

It’s helpful to realize that Marxists don’t really care about their brethren, they care about the ideology.

AYNBLAND on July 10, 2013 at 1:46 AM

Walmart should go one step further and say that they will not open a store there unless the government agrees to indemnify them for all costs to close and pull out if a future council gets similarly stupid.

cthulhu on July 10, 2013 at 1:55 AM

kaltes on July 10, 2013 at 1:27 AM

Maybe, but I think the advent of for-profit hospitals correlates to rising healthcare costs…thus probably a lot of the regulations that have come into effect.

Perhaps it’s just me, but I don’t think hospitals should be chains like Holiday Inns.

All in all, my experience with hospital care is that it’s pretty shoddy, everyone seems to be on a different sheet of music as to what to do, and most of the actual healthcare work is done by people who aren’t even physicians.

Had some stitches out a few months ago for example. They missed the last four or five and I had to take them out myself. Cost me over a thousand dollars for a deep two inch long cut. Doctor looked at it once and basically told me to keep it clean. Gee, thanks, Doc…I never would have known that.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 10, 2013 at 2:49 AM

The name of the bill says it all= The Large Retailer Accountability Act (LRAA). Which is apparently defined as Wal-Mart since the bill specifically exempts all the unionized grocery stores and other retailers that would otherwise be subject to the law.

It is all absurd. Wal-Mart is in the midst of opening three stores in the District. They’ve worked hard to address community concerns. Yet, months after Wal-Mart committed to six stores instead of the original plan for four; the city decides to become greedy and pulls this stunt. One of the stores that will not be built is in the Skyland “town center” that the city has struggled to redevelop for over two decades with no success whatsoever.

Wal-Mart isn’t bluffing here. It will be interesting to see how the vote comes out later on today.

Happy Nomad on July 10, 2013 at 6:57 AM

You get the government you help foster, eh Wal-Mart?

beatcanvas on July 10, 2013 at 7:01 AM

There are obvious reasons why the District of Columbia is an economic and cultural basket case that is run by some of the most corrupt politicians in the US.

First, it’s run by liberal morons who all flunked civics, history, English, math, science, and economics before dropping out of school to run for office. But once you become a government employee, you become smarter than everyone else therefore you feel compelled to tell everyone how they should live their lives.

Second, it’s populated by liberal morons, most all of who flunked civics, history, English, math, science, and economics before dropping out of school to live on welfare. Thus the people are pretty much unemployable and depend on the government to tell them what to do, what to think, what to eat, and what is politically correct.

Third, DC is under the exclusive jurisdiction of the United States Congress and is therefore not a part of any U.S. state. Since there isn’t a shred of evidence that Congress has ever effectively managed anything, DC merely reflects the broken and inept Congress that is responsible for it.

I think explains everything.

BMF on July 10, 2013 at 7:14 AM

I think explains everything.

BMF on July 10, 2013 at 7:14 AM

I think you missed an important point. The District of Columbia gets “free” government money to offset the costs associated with all those commuters who work in the city but live in the suburbs. It is why DC doesn’t have a commuter tax even though the DC Council routinely brings it up as a way to soak the productive to pay for their welfare programs. DC government is funded mostly on the backs of the American taxpayer and DC commuter caught in one the hundreds of “safety” cameras installed to deter speeding. Little of DC’s budget comes from income or property taxes. That is what keeps the city afloat while other wastelands like Detroit continue to struggle.

DC is the Obamaphone of US states and territories. Somebody else is expected to pay all the bill so the unproductive and jobless of DC can sit around be lazy.

Happy Nomad on July 10, 2013 at 7:36 AM

If I had Walmart stock, I’d sell it. Opening a retail store in DC is just asking for trouble. Bad management.

petefrt on July 10, 2013 at 8:02 AM

Rather than have 66% of something, D.C. votes for 100% of nothing.

RadClown on July 10, 2013 at 8:08 AM

Incentives matter, and free people respond to them.

If we could just do something about that, we could make some progress.

/liberals

Kafir on July 10, 2013 at 8:18 AM

When you want to do business in backwards, third world s**tholes, you gotta play by the savages’ rules.

MNHawk on July 10, 2013 at 8:26 AM

It’s very strange. Every time folks decide to help those big, evil corporations understand their fair share and how important it is that they fork it over, instead of being grateful and obedient, the corporations wind up going all “Atlas Shrugged” on us. Now, why would that be?
I say the City Council (which clearly knows what it’s doing, and is made up of wise statesmen) should up the minimum Wal-Wage to $17/hour, and then– just to avoid shenanigans by those ingrates– they should pass another bill saying that Wal-Mart has to open five stores in DC, and hire 400 people in each store. Think of all the good this would do for the economy!

morganfrost on July 10, 2013 at 8:28 AM

Yay! Hooray for Walmart! Walmart is teh awesome! And seriously, let’s LOWER minimum wage — it’s obviously much too high.

HB3 on July 9, 2013 at 10:16 PM

Agreed. I guess you’re beginning to understand.

Oh, wait…are you being sarcastic? What a tool. By the way, brush up on your economics skills before you spout off on minimum wages. They displace workers.

freedomfirst on July 10, 2013 at 8:50 AM

I say plan to build the stores to 75,000 square feet, then have the architect knock off a couple square feet in a corner somewhere. Then the social engineers can all go pound sand. They’re so good at it.

dissent555 on July 10, 2013 at 8:57 AM

HB3 on July 9, 2013 at 10:17 PM

Is this a new liberal commenter? Or, just someone I managed to ignore before?

crosspatch on July 9, 2013 at 11:06 PM

Hence the word “former” in MKH’s post.

GWB on July 10, 2013 at 9:07 AM

Black on black ill city management.

Sounds familiar.

Sherman1864 on July 10, 2013 at 9:38 AM

In many cases, Walmart can be considered a stepping stone for retail jobs that pay more. My company uses merchandisers, and Walmart is a good reference. This is clearly a union tactic.

lea on July 10, 2013 at 10:40 AM

They are building a Wal-Mart in Sherwood Oregon right now. There are protesters picketing on the sidewalk right next to the site. The signs say “No Big Stores, Keep business Local!”. The irony is, the sidewalk they are on is in front of a huge Target store they didn’t mind allowing about 10 years ago.

They are also building a Wal-Mart marketplace supermarket in Milwaukie Oregon and people there seem to be welcoming it.

portlandon on July 10, 2013 at 10:49 AM

Yeah right, doctors in America are among the most overpaid people in the world. In the rest of the world, doctors make a fraction of what they make here, yet the rest of the world still has doctors, doesn’t it?
kaltes on July 10, 2013 at 1:27 AM

Do you mean like as compared to people with REALLY highly valuable skills like acting or throwing a football/basketball/baseball?
I don’t recall seeing 8 or more years of college as a requirement for those jobs, or the need to pay hundreds of thousands of $$ a year in malpractice insurance just in case your movie flops or you lose a game….
If you want to get into who is over or under paid in this country versus their contribution to society as a whole, I’ll talk engineers, doctors, and scientists and you put up the argument for actors and athletes, and let’s see how that comes out.

dentarthurdent on July 10, 2013 at 11:56 AM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

This was the chance to keep all the D.C. riff raff shopping in D.C. rather coming down to Northern Virginia. Unfreakingbelievable.

olesparkie on July 10, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Not a big fan of Walmart, but this clearly illustrates that there is a fine line between idealism and stupidity!

rockncoal on July 10, 2013 at 12:13 PM

Wal-Mart is/was a driving force behind sending American manufacturing jobs to China.
Dr. ZhivBlago on July 10, 2013 at 1:21 AM

I don’t buy that at all.
Walmart wants to sell cheap stuff to average people.
If you want to talk about the “driving force” behind jobs going to China, you need to look at the government and unions. THEY are the reason anything manufactured in this country is far more expensive than what’s manufactured overseas – and that makes them the “driving force” behind jobs going overseas.
That’s why Walmart gets their cheap stuff from China, and Vietnam, and many other countries where anything can be made cheaper than in the unionized and over-regulated US.

dentarthurdent on July 10, 2013 at 12:24 PM

The bill also only applies to stores that are at least 75,000 square feet, thus exempting companies like Apple and Starbucks.

Isn’t the carve-out for liberal-approved billion-dollar retailers precious?

It’s funny how luxury good retailers of overpriced laptops and drinks don’t have to worry about the little man that they employ. Companies that sell cheap products which increase the real wage of low income laborers – not so much.

Smaller retail spaces also mean less property tax revenue. How about you do your fair share, tea-sipping hippies?

blammm on July 10, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Wal-Mart is/was a driving force behind sending American manufacturing jobs to China.
Dr. ZhivBlago on July 10, 2013 at 1:21 AM

I don’t buy that at all.
Walmart wants to sell cheap stuff to average people.
If you want to talk about the “driving force” behind jobs going to China, you need to look at the government and unions. THEY are the reason anything manufactured in this country is far more expensive than what’s manufactured overseas – and that makes them the “driving force” behind jobs going overseas.
That’s why Walmart gets their cheap stuff from China, and Vietnam, and many other countries where anything can be made cheaper than in the unionized and over-regulated US.

dentarthurdent on July 10, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Wal-Mart’s strategy was to undercut their competitors in prices so they could sell more volume. This meant that the cheaper foreign-made products usually got shelf space at their stores over more expensive American-made products. When Wal-Mart got huge, this forced even more companies to send operations overseas in order to get their product sold. Reached a point where the suppliers were running out of viable retail options, and besides, Wal-Mart was not a retailer they wanted to miss out on because of its volume sales.

Huffy Bikes is a prime example of what I’m talking about.

I’m not faulting them in a sense because it’s business, and it’s just the way it is and what’s good for a company is not always good for American workers. If companies aren’t hiring then what good are they to us?

I don’t entirely buy your union argument. I have not noticed appreciable differences between union-made and non-union made products. But I would agree in the sense that since unions demand higher wages, companies enjoy less profit than they would get with non-union labor.

But, the majority of workers in this country have never been unionized, but even the non-union employees have lost and are losing their jobs to China anyway. Even the lowest paid American worker is still too expensive for companies compared to foreign workers.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 10, 2013 at 1:54 PM

Even the lowest paid American worker is still too expensive for companies compared to foreign workers.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 10, 2013 at 1:54 PM

And why is that? Hmmm?
Unions are part of the problem – along with the government – as I originally stated. Unions artificially increase the cost of any business they’re in – and that helps drive the costs higher for everyone else. But unionized or not, government regulations like minimum wage, taxation, and everything from the EPA, OSHA, NLRB, and on and on, all together are the main reason goods produced in the US are too high priced – especially in comparison to China and most other countries.
THAT is the “driving force” in pushing jobs overseas – not the fact that Walmart chooses to carry lower priced goods from wherever they can get them.

dentarthurdent on July 10, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Here in Fort Collins, Colorado they did the same thing: Walmart wanted to build a couple of stores but the city turned them down. Typical liberal “arguments”: too much traffic, don’t pay enough, not union, etc, etc, etc.

Walmart responded by building stores in neighboring towns (Loveland and Timnath). Now Fort Collins gets to deal with even more traffic as it’s citizens drive outside the city to shop while missing out on the sales tax revenue (which go to Loveland and Timnath instead). The unemployed who might have worked there now have to drive even further to their jobs (costing them $$$) or remain unemployed. Brilliant!

“Smart Power” indeed.

lovesthesun on July 10, 2013 at 3:48 PM

lovesthesun on July 10, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Ya – these “bright” Dems are all over the place. They tried to do the same in Monument, down here by Colo Springs – starting back in the late 90s when I was on the town council. One of my arguments back against the anti-Walmart crowd was “If we don’t let them build IN the town, they’re going to build it just outside the town on county land on the other side of the road. Then the town gets no tax revenues. How is that better for the town?”

Common sense eventually won out and the Walmart got built in the town instead of just outside on county land. And as a result the town of Monument is doing quite well financially speaking.

dentarthurdent on July 10, 2013 at 4:07 PM

You must form a corrupt union with inefficientt, overpayed, capital consuming benefit ackage, unable to fire employee before we can talk.

RdLake on July 10, 2013 at 7:31 PM

The Large Retailer Accountability Act requires companies that take in at least $1 billion in revenue annually to pay their employees at least $12.50 an hour, well above the District’s minimum wage of $8.25. The bill also only applies to stores that are at least 75,000 square feet, thus exempting companies like Apple and Starbucks.

Where does the goofiness begin in this paragraph and where does it end? A goofiness chocked paragraph.

Here is the thing though…Starbacks, Apple store or Wal mart. I still don’t like the idea that a large retailer depends on Section 8 government housing and food stamps so that it doesn’t have to pay what it costs to live in a certain place. My answer is not that the poor take these jobs, it is that the poor move to where they can afford to live. And Walmart doesn’t have to be there in the inner city if they cannot afford to be there and pay the wages it costs to rent an apartment or ride the subway. But not set by the government, set by the free market. When the government does not reward Walmart workers with subsidized everything because they are living at poverty level, then we will be a step closer to Walmart living in the real world, and freedom.

Fleuries on July 10, 2013 at 8:53 PM

The attacks on Walmart are most likely much the same as what was said about Sears Roebuck back in the 1800s: hurting the general store proprietors and driving them out of business. Yet Sears endured because it gave consumers more choices.

J Baustian on July 10, 2013 at 10:18 PM