Polls: Rubio losing support among Republicans

posted at 6:01 pm on July 9, 2013 by Allahpundit

Meh. We’re still years away from the primaries, during which time he’ll be furiously rebuilding goodwill with the base by tossing out conservative red meat in all directions, and he remains very popular on balance, if not quite as popular as he used to be. And it’s only two polls! On a scale of one to 10 in terms of significance, I’d rate this somewhere around 0.5.

On a scale of one to 10 in terms of schadenfreude for border hawks, though? Easy eight, baby.

Only two surveys, one by ABC News and The Washington Post and one by Rasmussen Reports, have tested Mr. Rubio’s popularity since the Senate reached the final stages of passing a comprehensive immigration reform bill. Both measured double-digit drops in his net favorability rating among Republicans…

Before the Senate took up immigration reform, Mr. Rubio was largely a blank slate, upon whom both establishment Republicans and Tea Party supporters could project what they wanted (a dynamic that Barack Obama benefited from in 2008). Now Mr. Rubio has chosen a side, at least on immigration, and as long as it is a top issue in the news, Mr. Rubio may be identified more with the moderate wing of his party…

In other words, Mr. Rubio and his strategists may be playing a long game, sacrificing some support on the right they were likely to lose anyway for support in the middle. And while his stance on immigration reform has not yet earned Mr. Rubio a robust increase in his support among independents, that could still come.

Actually, the two polls are split on Rubio’s support among indies. One, ABC’s, shows him dropping six points in net favorability; the other, Rasmussen’s, shows him gaining five. That’s the “electability” result Rubio wants from all this — trade some (but not too much) conservative support for support in the center to help him claim that he’s the one guy in the field who can unite conservatives and moderates in the general to beat Hillary. As for the “blank slate” point, it’s spot on and I feel stupid for not making it myself last week in my critique of Rubio’s Obama-esque rhetorical shtick. O himself, by his own description, is the consummate blank slate for voters; the whole point of his Hopenchange message was to mask his liberal agenda in a sunny, supposedly post-partisan, “pragmatic” approach that would attract centrists and low-information voters. That’s Rubio’s plan too. That’s why his speeches are always brimming with hyper-optimistic messages about the glory of America. Sure, he’s a Republican and a conservative (on most issues) — but he’s an American first. The problem Rubio has that Obama didn’t is that the media is lousy with liberal shills who were happy to carry O’s stupid “post-partisan” message for him without scrutinizing it. They won’t do that for a Republican; Rubio needs something tangible to deflect the inevitable media charges in 2016 that he’s the new GOP Hitler. Immigration reform is his talisman. Even if reform collapses, he can still claim that he did his part to make it happen. The media will call him Hitler anyway but it won’t have the same bite.

Speaking of him throwing red meat around, Politico reports that he might not be as committed to quarterbacking a new bill banning abortions after 20 weeks as pro-life champions have hoped. In many ways, it’s a thankless task. Even some conservative women on the Hill think the GOP could use more women legislators as spokespersons for this issue, and of course the abortion fanatics in the Democratic caucus are warning him in advance that the bill will go nowhere at all. But messaging is his thing, his big selling point. The risk of him stepping on a landmine a la Todd Akin is, or should be, small. If he wants to be the new Great Communicator, there’s no better way to ace the degree-of-difficulty portion of the competition than by taking on abortion. Social cons will be watching and he needs to win people back. No time like the present.


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Rubio losing support among Republicans

Well, no shit!!!

redguy on July 9, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Fade? Lol!!! Dead!

Bmore on July 9, 2013 at 6:05 PM

Wishful thinking AP. Still a long way off until the first primaries of 2016.

eaglephin on July 9, 2013 at 6:05 PM

anyone have any idea why this is happening?

dirtseller on July 9, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Rub can toss all the red meat he wants, it’s still rancid. I’m tired of being stabbed in the back by these scum and I won’t believe a word he says.

Bishop on July 9, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Allah, I have a stylistic question for you.

Do you really expect us readers to continue reading your article when you start it with, “Meh”?

Nessuno on July 9, 2013 at 6:08 PM

In other words, Mr. Rubio and his strategists may be playing a long game, sacrificing some support on the right they were likely to lose anyway for support in the middle. And while his stance on immigration reform has not yet earned Mr. Rubio a robust increase in his support among independents, that could still come.

Just a reminder: Romney won the independent vote, but it didn’t offset the loss of the ‘base.’

Resist We Much on July 9, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Him and his racial agenda are dead to me.

abobo on July 9, 2013 at 6:09 PM

We’re still years away from the primaries, during which time he’ll be furiously rebuilding goodwill with the base by tossing out conservative red meat in all directions..”

Funny, if he had a nativist view of immigration you’d call him a solid conservative, not someone tossing out red meat. Disagree on one issue and face the wrath of being forever labeled a RINO.

We’ve become worse than libs when it comes to orthodoxy.

eaglephin on July 9, 2013 at 6:09 PM

And it’s only two polls! On a scale of one to 10 in terms of significance, I’d rate this somewhere around 0.5.

Thanks for the ‘dubious poll’ warning.

AKA, AP would prefer people not pay too much attention to these polls that are inconvenient to the party line.

Midas on July 9, 2013 at 6:09 PM

If you expect to get a bounce in the polls by lying to your constituents you’d better be a Democrat.

antipc on July 9, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Rubio losing support among Republicans

He’ll make up for it with the “naturally conservative” Hispanics.

Derp!

mudskipper on July 9, 2013 at 6:10 PM

That’s the “electability” result Rubio wants from all this —

And 2012 showed us that “electability” is so much garbage. People aren’t buying it again. The GOPe may wrangle Rubio or whatever pet they want to win the nomination, but they won’t have a chance in the general election. Just like 2012.

ddrintn on July 9, 2013 at 6:10 PM

And while his stance on immigration reform has not yet earned Mr. Rubio a robust increase in his support among independents, that could still come.

It won’t. The poll results on independents show that Rubio’s stance on illegal immigration has been a wash with them, but has cost him almost one-fifth of Republicans when it comes to net favorability.

As for actually earning votes in the primaries, their tracker from December 2012 going forward shows him going from about 20 percent to now about 10 percent. Amnesty has made Rubio weaker in the primaries, and with a drop in GOP support with a negligible impact on independents, weaker in the general election too.

On a scale of one to 10 in terms of significance, I’d rate this somewhere around 0.5.

I’d call it a 4. It shows that favoring amnesty won’t get the GOP anywhere, and hints that Rubio has unnecessarily caused a potential candidacy a fair deal of damage, although its permanence remains unknown.

Stoic Patriot on July 9, 2013 at 6:11 PM

You crossed the Rubicon, Rubio. You have betrayed us. I will not vote for you and if that means we lose in 2016, so be it. I refuse to be abused further by the Republican party taking me for granted.

islandman78 on July 9, 2013 at 6:12 PM

In other words, Mr. Rubio and his strategists may be playing a long game, sacrificing some support on the right they were likely to lose anyway for support in the middle. And while his stance on immigration reform has not yet earned Mr. Rubio a robust increase in his support among independents, that could still come.

Aw, so sweet.

*start humming the Disney “when you wish upon a star” tune*

To add another Disney reference, keep hollerin’ “I BELIEVE” at the TV, there champ – maybe Tinkerbell will come back to life for ya.

Midas on July 9, 2013 at 6:12 PM

I think it has something to do with the “color” change in Florida… It’s hardly even purple anymore…. Moving very close to blue…. Rubio will be re-elected in all probability because he is now more in tune with his State…

sandee on July 9, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Polls: Rubio losing support among Republicans
=============================================

Not to jump to conclusions,but,it appears the Polling is a
reflection of Rubio’s Actions!
(Sarc)

canopfor on July 9, 2013 at 6:13 PM

Orubio, Orubio, where art thou Orubio? Lol! You are history Marco. Lol!

Bmore on July 9, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Not to worry.

The ‘smartest cookie on Hot Air’ terryannonline assures us that he, the most charismatic republican ever, will recover and get 65%+ of the vote.

LegendHasIt on July 9, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Before the Senate took up immigration reform, Mr. Rubio was largely a blank slate…

That is one reason why the betrayal is so deeply felt, the very first thing Rubio did on the national stage was to oppose Conservatives and stand with liberals Chuck Schumer and Barack Obama to pass Teddy Kennedy’s dream of 20+ million new voters.

RJL on July 9, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Disagree on one issue and face the wrath of being forever labeled a RINO.

eaglephin on July 9, 2013 at 6:09 PM

You say ‘to-may-to‘ ‘disagree’, I say ‘to-mah-to‘ ‘lie repeatedly about a position to get elected, then *do* precisely the opposite, while continuing to lie repeatedly about what you’re doing’.

Midas on July 9, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Before the Senate took up immigration reform, Mr. Rubio was largely a blank slate, upon whom both establishment Republicans and Tea Party supporters could project what they wanted (a dynamic that Barack Obama benefited from in 2008).

Yep. Obama with an R after his name.

ddrintn on July 9, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Like “Astro” said on the Jetsons…

“Rhut-Ro, George!!!!”

===================================

Polls: Rubio losing support among Republicans

===================================
Shocker!!! /sarc

-west

mr_west on July 9, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Wow, he showed such promise in the beginning…

OmahaConservative on July 9, 2013 at 6:18 PM

That’s what happens when you out and out lie.

gophergirl on July 9, 2013 at 6:19 PM

As a Fla. voter, who voted for him in the primary,and general,AND gave $$$,….I’m DONE!!!!!!!!

SMACKRUNNER on July 9, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Ah, the smell of RINO on a Summer afternoon.

HopeHeFails on July 9, 2013 at 6:21 PM

gophergirl on July 9, 2013 at 6:19 PM

My 40th HS Reunion is in August and I have no date. Not going…

OmahaConservative on July 9, 2013 at 6:21 PM

On the other hand Rubio is becoming one of the democratics’ most favorite Republicans, even more than Johnny Mac or Miss Lucy. Will they ever vote for him? Not in a thousand years.

slickwillie2001 on July 9, 2013 at 6:22 PM

I’m with SMACKRUNNER. Rubio will never get my vote again.

stvdog on July 9, 2013 at 6:22 PM

useless idiot

kirkill on July 9, 2013 at 6:23 PM

I am still of the same opinion I was in 2008; I don’t care if our nominee is Nixon, risen from the grave- he would get my support over any Democrat running. Rubio might not even be a key player by 2016. Meh.

BettyRuth on July 9, 2013 at 6:26 PM

Most citizens are against amnesty, how does Rubio think this is a good thing?

birdwatcher on July 9, 2013 at 6:27 PM

He’s a Senator.

You’re not.

And you have to love “Primary him with X! Primary him with Y! With Z!”

(When X, Y and Z have been rejected by previous voters and are sitting around currently unemployed.)

Marcus on July 9, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Just a reminder: Romney won the independent vote, but it didn’t offset the loss of the ‘base.’

Resist We Much on July 9, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Don’t worry. The tidal wave of Hispanic support will . . . /

Axe on July 9, 2013 at 6:29 PM

I don’t know…

… that picture of him sucking off Chuck Schumer should eventually fade, shouldn’t it?

Seven Percent Solution on July 9, 2013 at 6:30 PM

That’s the “electability” result Rubio wants from all this — trade some (but not too much) conservative support for support in the center to help him claim that he’s the one guy in the field who can unite conservatives and moderates in the general to beat Hillary.

If the GOP runs the same playbook for the 3rd straight Presidential election, they better not be surprised when they lose for a 3rd straight time. Try putting an actual conservative candidate up against the Dem nominee. You might be surprised at how well they do.

Doughboy on July 9, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Meh. Screw him.

(No style points?)

novaculus on July 9, 2013 at 6:32 PM

I learned the hard way with Rubio.

Chat him all you want. He’s a Trojan-Horse Republican.

His tear-jerking stories of his father coming to the U.S. from Cuba ring hollow…and are completely laughable.

BuckeyeSam on July 9, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Midas on July 9, 2013 at 6:16 PM

Absolutely.

And the more Republicans find out how much he lied, how cowardly he was in running from honest debate, the more they will dislike him.

As for that nonsense from his open letter about it “being in his heart,” he ought to be asked every time there’s a chance exactly what was in his heart in 09/10.

He stood up to Schumer and Obama on absolutely nothing. Craven. Contemptible. He’s willing to sell out his party and his country…for what?

EastofEden on July 9, 2013 at 6:35 PM

Seven Percent Solution on July 9, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Ha!!! ; ) …………..No.

Bmore on July 9, 2013 at 6:35 PM

<He’s a Senator.

You’re not.

And you have to love “Primary him with X! Primary him with Y! With Z!”

(When X, Y and Z have been rejected by previous voters and are sitting around currently unemployed.)

<

/blockqMarcus on July 9, 2013 at 6:27 > I’ll find someone,don’t worry!

SMACKRUNNER on July 9, 2013 at 6:36 PM

He can’t propose stuff that we want that won’t pass. He has to give us real victories after this betrayal.

Iblis on July 9, 2013 at 6:36 PM

Deuce Rubio: Male Gigolo

How ya like me now?

sartana on July 9, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Expect insulting red-meat pander attempt any minute.

rrpjr on July 9, 2013 at 6:37 PM

We’ve become worse than libs when it comes to orthodoxy.

eaglephin on July 9, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Compromise has worked so, well so far. Right? You guys just don’t get it. You’ve compromised and worked with the other side till your standing in a 6 ft. deep hole and the Democrats are throwing shovels full of dirt on you, and telling you that it’s tequila, and it’s going to give you a permanent majority with Hispanics.

DFCtomm on July 9, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Rubio can kiss my ass!

GarandFan on July 9, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Schubio

Bmore on July 9, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Don’t worry. The Right Wing News/blog conglomerate will prop Rubio up in 2016.

portlandon on July 9, 2013 at 6:40 PM

Now can they pull the plug on these annoying ads that support immigration reform?

mjbrooks3 on July 9, 2013 at 6:40 PM

Rubio can grandstand and red meat for years but it won’t change the fact that he acted as a witless agent to destroy his party as a national factor and deeply hurt the country. He, Ayotte and their ilk will get no more feet on the ground campaign work from my family, no contributions and no votes. I’m done with Beltway driven RINOs.

philw1776 on July 9, 2013 at 6:41 PM

He’s a Senator.

You’re not.

Marcus on July 9, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Is this the part where I’m supposed to have a crisis of doubt about my life’s path and measure my self worth against Rub’s?

You know who else is a senator? Franken. And Reid. And Boxer.

Bishop on July 9, 2013 at 6:41 PM

Just a reminder: Romney won the independent vote, but it didn’t offset the loss of the ‘base.’

Resist We Much on July 9, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Don’t worry. The tidal wave of Hispanic support will . . . /

Axe on July 9, 2013 at 6:29 PM

Yeppers, because 73% of Hispanics will vote for Rubio if he gets immigration deform enacted into law. They will ignore his statements on the need to completely repeal Obamacare, for which they are the biggest supporters.

Oh, and Hispanics cannot wait to compete for jobs with criminaliens!

/

Resist We Much on July 9, 2013 at 6:42 PM

<He’s a Senator.

You’re not.

And you have to love “Primary him with X! Primary him with Y! With Z!”

(When X, Y and Z have been rejected by previous voters and are sitting around currently unemployed.)

I’ll find someone,don’t worry!

SMACKRUNNER on July 9, 2013 at 6:36 PM

This is one beauty of a comment fail, second only to “scrotched earth”.

But I like it, I like it a lot.

Bishop on July 9, 2013 at 6:44 PM

My 40th HS Reunion is in August and I have no date. Not going…

OmahaConservative on July 9, 2013 at 6:21 PM

OmahaConservative:Good Gawd,glad your here,

after that,ahem,..”Incident”,

with TownHall Yesterday…..*Wink-Wink*:)

canopfor on July 9, 2013 at 6:45 PM

He’s a Senator.

You’re not.

Marcus on July 9, 2013 at 6:27 PM

You forgot to add “nyahh, nyaah.”

RINOs are like leftists — they can’t win without lying about everything they believe in or don’t believe in.

Reagan said straight-up who he was and what he believed in. He made 20 promises when he ran for President and kept every one. And he won all those precious voters RINOs keep telling us can’t be won without pretending you’re more like a democrat than a conservative.

rrpjr on July 9, 2013 at 6:47 PM

And while his stance on immigration reform has not yet earned Mr. Rubio a robust increase in his support among independents, that could still come.

I thought in the past that polls showed most independents are against so-called immigration reform. I may not remember that correctly, but I can’t see Rubio’s shilling for amnesty earning support for him.

INC on July 9, 2013 at 6:47 PM

“Blank slate” Rubio has a long record of fighting any immigration enforcement.

Valiant on July 9, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Resist We Much on July 9, 2013 at 6:42 PM

If Hispanics don’t vote for Rubio then they are racist, and judging by how closely Rubby likes to stand with Schumer, probably homophobes too.

Bishop on July 9, 2013 at 6:50 PM

Is this the part where I’m supposed to have a crisis of doubt about my life’s path and measure my self worth against Rub’s?

Bishop on July 9, 2013 at 6:41 PM

lol

Axe on July 9, 2013 at 6:54 PM

There’s another possibility. Rubio’s support may erode so much that he ends up doing a Crist.

paul1149 on July 9, 2013 at 6:54 PM

after that,ahem,..”Incident”,

with TownHall Yesterday…..*Wink-Wink*:)

canopfor on July 9, 2013 at 6:45 PM

Why? What happened?

OmahaConservative on July 9, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Schubio

Bmore on July 9, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Schmubio?

He’s a Senator.

You’re not.

Marcus on July 9, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Is this the part where I’m supposed to have a crisis of doubt about my life’s path and measure my self worth against Rub’s?

You know who else is a senator? Franken. And Reid. And Boxer.

Bishop on July 9, 2013 at 6:41 PM

BOOM!

novaculus on July 9, 2013 at 6:55 PM

I’d consider Rubio if walked up to Schumer and kicked him in the balls gun and told him why. Replace Schumer with McCain and I’d consider it as well. But he’d better do it soon.

DanMan on July 9, 2013 at 6:56 PM

Rubio’s support may erode so much that he ends up doing a Crist.

paul1149 on July 9, 2013 at 6:54 PM

Not out of the realm of possibility. He’s so ambitious he practically vibrates.

rrpjr on July 9, 2013 at 6:56 PM

He’s a Senator.

You’re not.

Marcus on July 9, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Rubio is also balding pretty badly and can’t speak publicly without stammering.

tetriskid on July 9, 2013 at 6:57 PM

I was completely disgusted by Rubio’s immigration arguments, but that is policy.

I’m repulsed by his mendacity and duplicity.

Those are far bigger issues to me. I’m sick of liars and flip-floppers, and I’m not inclined to give the benefit of the doubt to them that I might extend to others with whom I have only policy issues.

novaculus on July 9, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Undocumented Democrats. That would be the majority of Republican Senators.

they lie on July 9, 2013 at 7:04 PM

That took waay too long. Basically the day he made his first floor speech should have been his start of decay. When you can stand up as a republican and argue that America has two legitimate choices of where to go. Either the free market or the socialist path. Socialism is not a valid path, it always fails. Marco Rubio, while worth defeating Crist was a worthy goal, Rubio is NOT the best possible candidate for his seat that we can get.

astonerii on July 9, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Cheer up Rubio, you still have the full support of Obama, Schumer and McCain. And the support of the DNC and la Raza … … and the serf master employers.

VorDaj on July 9, 2013 at 7:08 PM

VorDaj on July 9, 2013 at 7:08 PM

No he doesn’t, they will toss him the moment they can get someone more progressive.

astonerii on July 9, 2013 at 7:11 PM

This Asshat lost me forever! I will not vote for him even if he is the only choice and the Repub candidate. I will stay home.

UncleZeb on July 9, 2013 at 7:11 PM

I consider myself the “base”…and Rubio is dead to me. I don’t suffer liars well. He went into this thing with open eyes..and had a small window to extract himself when he saw how the base was reacting… and he still stuck with it. Sorry Marco, No dice.

lostinjrz on July 9, 2013 at 7:11 PM

Being a Catholic, Rubio should know the difference between mortal and venial sins. Itn the eyes of most of the GOP base constantly lying to promote amnesty is a mortal sin. Rubio can go to he!! as far as I am concerned.

bw222 on July 9, 2013 at 7:12 PM

Rubio didn’t lose any possible support from me because he’s pro-amnesty. He lost my support because he repeatedly lied about what the bill involved. Conveniently ignoring the millions of illegals that get fast-track amnesty. Saying one thing on English-speaking television and the exact opposite on Spanish-speaking television.

In short, Rubio has proven to be a man of zero integrity. He cannot be trusted because he is a liar and professional politician but I repeat myself.

Happy Nomad on July 9, 2013 at 7:13 PM

He is dead to me. He was either an idiot who let the dems snow him or he placed his heritage over the good of the country. Either way he is too stupid or too racist to deserve a Republican vote. He is a Dem so do a Jim Jeffords for the remainder of his term and run as a Dem. im sick of these turncoats.

neyney on July 9, 2013 at 7:16 PM

You know who else is a senator? Franken. And Reid. And Boxer.

Bishop on July 9, 2013 at 6:41 PM

And history has shown that they, along with Feinstein, have their jobs pretty much for life. No??

I don’t think Cuban Rubio in purple Florida in panicking the uber-right is mad mad mad.

Marcus on July 9, 2013 at 7:19 PM

He’s a Senator.

You’re not.

Marcus on July 9, 2013 at 6:27 PM

So you don’t think very highly of him either, then.

Midas on July 9, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Ted Kennedy makes a brief appearance from the pits of hell and declares, “Marco, you would have made a hell of a Kennedy!”

VorDaj on July 9, 2013 at 7:24 PM

And history has shown that they, along with Feinstein, have their jobs pretty much for life. No??

I don’t think Cuban Rubio in purple Florida in panicking the uber-right is mad mad mad.

Marcus on July 9, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Then he’s only in it for himself and not worth my support anyway; makes it all that much easier to dismiss the man.

Bishop on July 9, 2013 at 7:28 PM

He’s a Senator.

You’re not.

Marcus on July 9, 2013 at 6:27 PM

So you don’t think very highly of him either, then.

Midas on July 9, 2013 at 7:19 PM

Fleas can be taught nearly anything that a congressman can. – Mark Twain

VorDaj on July 9, 2013 at 7:29 PM

canopfor on July 9, 2013 at 6:45 PM

Why? What happened?

OmahaConservative on July 9, 2013 at 6:55 PM

OmahaConservative:Haha:)

canopfor on July 9, 2013 at 7:29 PM

VorDaj on July 9, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Ted Kennedy was pretty consistent and full-throated about his beliefs. I don’t remember many Kennedy flip-flops, or sell-outs of his base or his political principles, such as they were.

rrpjr on July 9, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Congressman is the trivialist distinction for a full grown man. – Mark Twain

VorDaj on July 9, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Rubio didn’t lose any possible support from me because he’s pro-amnesty. He lost my support because he repeatedly lied about what the bill involved. Conveniently ignoring the millions of illegals that get fast-track amnesty. Saying one thing on English-speaking television and the exact opposite on Spanish-speaking television.

In short, Rubio has proven to be a man of zero integrity. He cannot be trusted because he is a liar and professional politician but I repeat myself.

Happy Nomad on July 9, 2013 at 7:13 PM

^^^^ this exactly

gophergirl on July 9, 2013 at 7:33 PM

Why? What happened?

OmahaConservative on July 9, 2013 at 6:55 PM

OmahaConservative:Haha:)

canopfor on July 9, 2013 at 7:29 PM

I am serious, what happened?

OmahaConservative on July 9, 2013 at 7:37 PM

Funny, if he had a nativist view of immigration you’d call him a solid conservative, not someone tossing out red meat. Disagree on one issue and face the wrath of being forever labeled a RINO.

We’ve become worse than libs when it comes to orthodoxy.

eaglephin

Because all issues are equal, right? If he were a child molester instead, per your logic we should continue supporting him because it’s only one issue.

xblade on July 9, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Because all issues are equal, right? If he were a child molester instead, per your logic we should continue supporting him because it’s only one issue.

xblade on July 9, 2013 at 7:42 PM

Note “nativist.”

Axe on July 9, 2013 at 7:52 PM

The downside of being a “blank slate” is what gets written on it FIRST. We are NOT rabid, leftist moonbats who don’t care if a politician LIES to us. What worked for Obama isn’t going to work for Rubio because brain-dead zombies will have a bonafide Democrat they can vote for.

Marco Rubio stabbed us in the back. THAT is what’s written first on his formerly “blank slate”.

Murf76 on July 9, 2013 at 7:53 PM

TOAST has a better chance of being nominated now.

camaraderie on July 9, 2013 at 7:56 PM

Rubio’s biggest problem is that the conservative base was also his base, his strongest support. The dedicated activists and small donors tend to be intensely for you or intensely against you, and he has ticked off the very people who carried him into office over Charlie Crist.

Romney’s trouble winning over the base contributed to the length of the primary season. He couldn’t close the deal despite a huge money advantage and, after Perry self-destructed, a field of second-rate candidates. One of the big sticking points was his health care plan, and conservatives were appalled by that.

Rubio and immigration isn’t going have any easier time wooing back the base.

And for many of us like me, it’s not just the awful bill he is flacking for, it is the fact that he has lied repeatedly about what is in it and what the effects will be. That’s unforgivable.

Nominate Pretty Boy if you want to. I will NEVER vote for the lying little punk.

Adjoran on July 9, 2013 at 7:57 PM

-100% with this conservative

chickasaw42 on July 9, 2013 at 7:58 PM

Losing? – wrong

input – LOST

jake-the-goose on July 9, 2013 at 8:00 PM

What is this garbage about being able to beat Hillary?! Repeat after me: HE IS NOT CONSTITUTIONALLY ELIGIBLE TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT! Granted, neither was obama, but two wrongs only make things twice as wrong, I don’t care whose side he is on. No fewer than four SCOTUS rulings have defined “natural born citizen” as being born to two citizen parents. He does not qualify.

SteveThomas on July 9, 2013 at 8:11 PM

Rubio-an unprincipled panderer and one of the dumbest politicians ever.ReallyMarco,did you really think selling out the base on an issue this big while being the front runner for the 2016 GOP nomination was a wise move? Judas Iscidiot!

redware on July 9, 2013 at 8:13 PM

The RINO elites will force feed this rat to the mass of faux conservatives in the GOP. As Lou Reed once said: “you’d eat **** and say it tastes so good, if there’s some money in it for ya”.

wraithby on July 9, 2013 at 8:14 PM

What Romneycare was to Etch-A-Sketch = What shamnesty will be to Screwbio!

We are NOT forgetting!

Toast, burnt, corrupt, Bush mafia, toast especially to me and my fellow Floridians! Burnt effing toast!

I swear on everything that is holy to me I am all for the Bush mafia purge. I’m voting Democrat. There is nothing to lose. We have 1 party “Ruling Class” anyway.

Like Stacy McCain says, “Fight them until hell freezes over and then fight them on ice!

Jayrae on July 9, 2013 at 8:17 PM

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