Video: More than 40 dead in Cairo at pro-Morsi rally

posted at 8:01 am on July 8, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

The bloodless coup in Egypt got less hygienic overnight.  After a confrontation by pro-Morsi protesters and the Egyptian army at the headquarters where Mohamed Morsi reportedly is being held in Cairo, soldiers opened fire, killing more than 40 people and wounding over 300.  The protesters claim that the soldiers opened fire during morning prayers, but the military insists that they defended the HQ from a terrorist attack:

The AP reports that the Salafist group al-Nour has withdrawn its support from the military-sponsored interim government after the “massacre.” They also have more detail on the conflicting accounts:

Military spokesmen said gunmen opened fire on troops at the building, killing at least five supporters of Mohammed Morsi and one officer.

A spokesman from Morsi’s Muslim Brotherhood, Mourad Ali, and a witness at the scene however said military forces opened fire at dawn on the protesters outside the Republican Guard building. The different accounts could not be reconciled.

Satellite broadcaster Al-Jazeera showed footage from a nearby field hospital of at least six dead bodies laid out on the ground, some with severe wounds. A medic from the area, Hesham Agami, said ambulances were unable to transport more than 200 wounded to hospitals because the military had blocked off the roads.

Al-Shaimaa Younes, who was at the sit-in, said military troops and police forces opened fire on the protesters during early morning prayers. “They opened fire with live ammunition and lobbed tear gas,” she said by telephone. “There was panic and people started running. I saw people fall.” …

A statement by the armed forces published on the state news agency said “an armed terrorist group” tried to storm the Republican Guard building, killing one officer and seriously injuring six. The statement said the forces arrested 200 attackers, armed with guns and ammunition.

The details are still hazy, and the conflicting claims don’t help. CNN’s report states that the shooting took place at 4 am local time and some of the video shows ambulances arriving in the dark, which would tend to indicate that the incident took place too early for morning prayer.  On the other hand, it could be that a small group within a larger, peaceful group of protesters decided to use the demonstration as cover for an attack.  That would account for the confusion and reconcile the conflicting claims.

Either way, the military government now has a major political problem on its hands, and they may soon find themselves on the defensive, just as Morsi did last week.


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This truly can’t be happening..
The Nobel winner spoke there…

The end.

Electrongod on July 8, 2013 at 8:06 AM

Better they attack each other than anybody else.

Steve Eggleston on July 8, 2013 at 8:07 AM

ugly and uglier, I hope they can keep the Suez open.

rob verdi on July 8, 2013 at 8:08 AM

*drinks coffee*

BigGator5 on July 8, 2013 at 8:09 AM

It’s getting almost as bad over there as Chicago.

tommyboy on July 8, 2013 at 8:09 AM

John Kerry should sail over there and get this straightened out.

forest on July 8, 2013 at 8:09 AM

A few less al qaeda islamist terrorists? Yawn, move along, nothing to see here.

msupertas on July 8, 2013 at 8:10 AM

John Kerry should sail over there and get this straightened out.

forest on July 8, 2013 at 8:09 AM

Like he did when he ran for preezy. Sail up the Suez, “John Kerry reporting for duty”.

msupertas on July 8, 2013 at 8:13 AM

I just looked up Iraq news, the same level of violence is happening there too.

Oil Can on July 8, 2013 at 8:13 AM

…Arab Spring….continues!

KOOLAID2 on July 8, 2013 at 8:15 AM

ugly and uglier, I hope they can keep the Suez open.

rob verdi on July 8, 2013 at 8:08 AM

What better way to get oil to $200 a barrel? However, I doubt anyone will let the Egyptians close the canal for very long.

Johnnyreb on July 8, 2013 at 8:17 AM

It’s getting almost as bad over there as Chicago.

tommyboy on July 8, 2013 at 8:09 AM

But is it as bad as Detroit?

Steve Eggleston on July 8, 2013 at 8:18 AM

The protesters claim that the soldiers opened fire during morning prayers, but the military insists that they defended the HQ from a terrorist attack

…I think I believe the military this time!

KOOLAID2 on July 8, 2013 at 8:18 AM

What better way to get oil to $200 a barrel? However, I doubt anyone will let the Egyptians close the canal for very long.

Johnnyreb on July 8, 2013 at 8:17 AM

If we were at AoSHQ, I’d sock a certain occupant of a non-square office thusly – “Want to bet?”

Steve Eggleston on July 8, 2013 at 8:19 AM

‘Say hello to the new boss…same as the old boss.’

annoyinglittletwerp on July 8, 2013 at 8:20 AM

In the words of one former VP, “So?”

LincolntheHun on July 8, 2013 at 8:33 AM

It’s getting almost as bad over there as Chicago.

tommyboy on July 8, 2013 at 8:09 AM

I doubt Michelle will be attending any of the funerals…

More than 70 shot, at least 12 killed in Fourth of July weekend Chicago shootings

http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?id=9165214.

Fallon on July 8, 2013 at 8:34 AM

Sounds like the mob was trying to free Morsi.

Blake on July 8, 2013 at 8:35 AM

Whoa…

Look for President SmartPower to lower the Stars & Stripes over the White House.

Always sad when your comrades-in-arms fall in service to your common cause.

turfmann on July 8, 2013 at 8:36 AM

I doubt Michelle will be attending any of the funerals…
More than 70 shot, at least 12 killed in Fourth of July weekend Chicago shootings

Fallon on July 8, 2013 at 8:34 AM

Chicago =/= Narrative

Maybe they need better gun control – 12 out of 70 isn’t very accurate shooting.

turfmann on July 8, 2013 at 8:39 AM

Territorial spirits. That entire region of the world.

So now maybe we know where “legion” ended up after the swine fled down the side of the mountain and drowned in the Sea of Galilee.

Cleombrotus on July 8, 2013 at 8:46 AM

The bloodless coup in Egypt got less hygienic overnight.

That is the best line you have ever written, Ed! LOL I love it!

What did Obama expect to happen when his Bros got involved? I tend to think that if they had more of a lock on power in Cairo, there would be a lot more than 40 dead at this point in time. There would be wrecking crews hard at work tearing down the Sphinx and the Pyramids, while all those priceless irreplaceable artifacts of Egypt’s ancient past would have been destroyed by now. Coptic Christians would either be in prison awaiting execution or been driven from the land.

Obama still supports his Bros, so it must be a great pain to him to see they aren’t getting as far as he wants for them. If he hadn’t meddled in the first place, none of this might be happening.

Liam on July 8, 2013 at 8:47 AM

Has anyone in the MSM asked the regime what the hell is going on over there. This is Obama’s signature accomplishment in foreign policy and its turned into a nightmare

jaywemm on July 8, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Has anyone in the MSM asked the regime what the hell is going on over there. This is Obama’s signature accomplishment in foreign policy and its turned into a nightmare

jaywemm on July 8, 2013 at 8:53 AM

The media questioning their precious Obama? Surely you jest.

Liam on July 8, 2013 at 8:55 AM

Give the Muslim Brotherhood and their subgroups record of staging fake deaths/funerals and flat out lying about violent events they instigate or start, the Egyptian military has much more credibility. Well, except in the eyes of the leftist Euro-weinie and US MSM…

deepdiver on July 8, 2013 at 8:56 AM

That Obama fellow sure is effective at preventing crises, huh?

Key West Reader on July 8, 2013 at 8:57 AM

Obama could sail up the Nile on John Kerry’s yacht and give a new speech.

Soon Barry O. will announce US troops going to Egypt to support the Muslim Brotherhood….

albill on July 8, 2013 at 9:04 AM

The true revelation here is in the media’s attempt to flog the Islamist hobby horse.

Suddenly, an Islamist President who has run roughshod over democratic process, attempted to change Egypt’s constitution against the people’s will and impose his personal predilections on an entire country is the “aggrieved” party.

Millions of Egypt’s citizens peacefully protesting in the streets, combined with a military committed to Egypt’s secular and largely lawful society are suddenly…accoutrements to a coup? Laughable.

Most of these articles are written as if it was the Sierra Club protesting the building of a dam, not a community known for violence, despotism and religious fanaticism responding to a wise push-back against their tyrannical takeover of a government.

The AP was at the “protest”, which has been cover and perhaps a metaphor for Islamist extremist attacks for at least the last decade, yet they state the Egyptian Army fired on protesters without any additional context? Oh please.

This is nothing more than a movement who is finally seeing some resistance from people committed to a secular, democratic state and it’s about time. I’ll bet a years wages the Brotherhood supporters (including Morsi) are not only receiving assistance from nefarious forces outside Egypt, but stages the protest as cover for an attack.

Marcus Traianus on July 8, 2013 at 9:09 AM

Obama could sail up the Nile on John Kerry’s yacht and give a new speech.

Soon Barry O. will announce US troops going to Egypt to support the Muslim Brotherhood….

albill on July 8, 2013 at 9:04 AM

Even better, Obama should take Biden with him, join the protesters, and get all up in the Egyptian military’s faces.

DRayRaven on July 8, 2013 at 9:12 AM

John Kerry should sail over there and get this straightened out.

forest on July 8, 2013 at 8:09 AM

His wife was admitted to the hospital in critical condition yesterday…seizure or something…

workingclass artist on July 8, 2013 at 9:15 AM

You know what would make all of this Egypt turmoil go away? Another speechifyin’ session from the great and impotent O.

Key West Reader on July 8, 2013 at 9:30 AM

I doubt anyone will let the Egyptians close the canal for very long.

Johnnyreb on July 8, 2013 at 8:17 AM

Depends how they “close” it. An administrative closure requires only a military reponse but they could sink a number of large vessels in it, which might take a while to clear-up. Even more effective would be damaging the infrastructure of the canal itself, which would only take some explosives.

gh on July 8, 2013 at 9:34 AM

As pointed out, it was too early for morning prayers. This looks more like a predawn attack hoping to catch the army napping and spirit Morsi away where he could be a figurehead for a counterrevolution. He always was a figurehead; too stupid to call his own shots which is why the MB leadership gave him the ballot slot–they felt they could control him.

Sneak attacks and lies are typical behavior of the radical Islamists who always blame their massacres on someone else and stage fake videos for propaganda value. If they go to war with the army, they will lose unless the army and the new government go wobbly. This is not Afghanistan being attacked by a Taliban that has a safe location to base their attacks out of. Even if Egyptian Islamist revolutionaries try to stage out of Libya or Sudan, the Egyptian army can still get at them.

KW64 on July 8, 2013 at 9:35 AM

His wife was admitted to the hospital in critical condition yesterday…seizure or something…

workingclass artist on July 8, 2013 at 9:15 AM

May God heal her in such a way that she and her husband come to truly know the Lord.

Liam on July 8, 2013 at 9:39 AM

Muslims killing people (including other Muslims (when there aren’t any Christians, Jews or Buddhists around to kill) goes back to the time of Mohammad. In fact, the pedophile warlord is the one who started it.

bw222 on July 8, 2013 at 9:42 AM

Like he did when he ran for preezy. Sail up the Suez, “John Kerry reporting for doodie”.

msupertas on July 8, 2013 at 8:13 AM

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It’s all he’s got.

RalphyBoy on July 8, 2013 at 10:07 AM

What is the problem?

antisense on July 8, 2013 at 10:10 AM

Not enough salt in the world to take with Muslim truth. Only fools would give credence to anything they conjure. Luckily for Muslims,the West is full of fools.

BL@KBIRD on July 8, 2013 at 10:11 AM

On the other hand, it could be that a small group within a larger, peaceful group of protesters decided to use the demonstration as cover for an attack. That would account for the confusion and reconcile the conflicting claims.

If the Muslim Brotherhood candidates actually won the Egyptian elections last year, they do have some supporters, who may become violent. The Egyptian military needs to be careful that this doesn’t spiral out of control…but whose side are they on?

If either side closes the Suez Canal, it would be a serious problem for Europe, which gets most of its oil from Saudi Arabia. Granted, Europe gets some oil from Libya and Algeria, but how reliable is their supply?

This might give Komrade Vlad (Putin) the idea of being more “flexible” with Gazprom, but at a price (of course). Ve gif you gas, ve take Syria?

Steve Z on July 8, 2013 at 10:37 AM

You’re quoting Al-Jazeera Ed?

Better get some credible reporting. Other reliable sources have a straighter story that includes murders by the MB and friends.

Start digging.

TerryW on July 8, 2013 at 10:55 AM

What is fueling all this discord is the horrible manner in which Morsi ran the f’ing economy. The Egyptian economy is depends on tourism.

SC.Charlie on July 8, 2013 at 10:58 AM

Who could have seen this coming?

I really thought Egypt would be a paradise after Obama, almost immediately, ordered Mubarak (and his decades of stability) to step down.

OxyCon on July 8, 2013 at 11:00 AM

I can’t trust the liberal media default position on this, that the “army opened fire”. In protests last week there was anecdotal evidence of soldiers firing into the air while a protester was firing at the army.

We all know too that the side that values life the least and has the most to gain from some casualties is the MoBro.

slickwillie2001 on July 8, 2013 at 11:02 AM

John Kerry needs to moor his yacht in Alexandria and wind surf his way down the Nile in to Cairo like James Bond to get this all straightened out.

abobo on July 8, 2013 at 11:43 AM

As pointed out, it was too early for morning prayers. This looks more like a predawn attack hoping to catch the army napping and spirit Morsi away where he could be a figurehead for a counterrevolution. He always was a figurehead; too stupid to call his own shots which is why the MB leadership gave him the ballot slot–they felt they could control him.

Sneak attacks and lies are typical behavior of the radical Islamists who always blame their massacres on someone else and stage fake videos for propaganda value. If they go to war with the army, they will lose unless the army and the new government go wobbly. This is not Afghanistan being attacked by a Taliban that has a safe location to base their attacks out of. Even if Egyptian Islamist revolutionaries try to stage out of Libya or Sudan, the Egyptian army can still get at them.

KW64 on July 8, 2013 at 9:35 AM

The first call to prayer is two hours before sunrise, which is defined as the time between the sun starting and finishing its crossing of the horizon.

Prayer Schedule July / 2013
Date Day Fajr Sunrise Dhuhr Asr Maghrib Isha
7 Sun 3:16 4:59 12:00 15:36 19:00 20:32

The report said the attack occurred during preparations for prayer, which could begin even before the muezzin’s call for those milling about.

OTOH, this would be a choice time for a sneak attack on the guards as posts might be short-handed while some of the personnel go to the mosque or prayer room, so your points are well taken, KW.

dave80 on July 8, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Pharaohs 40- Jihadis 1.

This is how unsustainable overpopulation and aggressive ideological stupidity are solved by Mother Nature.

Many thousands will die in this clash between the military ‘realists’ and the theocratic fantasists before the latter slink back into the shadows an plot their path back into power.

profitsbeard on July 8, 2013 at 12:29 PM

dave80 on July 8, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Point well taken. I just accepted the article’s premise. I don’t see an advantage for the army in instigating a fight at this point; so my presumption is that someone with the MB started it.

KW64 on July 8, 2013 at 12:37 PM

Muzz on Muzz violence. How unusual. Must be Bush’e fault…

Galtian on July 8, 2013 at 12:48 PM

*Bush’s

Galtian on July 8, 2013 at 12:48 PM