Rick Perry: I’m not running for reelection in 2014

posted at 4:01 pm on July 8, 2013 by Allahpundit

Despite Wendy Davis’s best efforts to hand him a walkover victory for a fourth term, he’s decided to leave politics.

For now.

Perry has served as governor since 2000, when then-Gov. George W. Bush (R) became president. Perry was elected to full terms in 2002, 2006 and 2010.

Perry also alluded to a potential 2016 presidential run, saying he will “pray and reflect and work to determine my own future path.”

Since his 2012 presidential bid floundered – capped off by his “oops” moment at a presidential debate — Perry has eyed a second run.

“Any future considerations I will announce in due time, and I will arrive at that decision appropriately,” he said.

The next governor of Texas, barring something unusual happening, will be state AG Greg Abbott. Question: If Perry has his eye on another presidential run, why retire now in order to run in 2016 rather than run as a sitting governor? Lots of answers to that — he can rest up, take time to organize, control his own agenda in a way that an incumbent can’t — but here’s a smart one from lefty Benjy Sarlin:

I’d expect Christie to have the inside track on Wall Street money given his regional pedigree, except that … Christie will be bound by this same rule, unless he turns around and resigns as governor less than halfway into his new term. (Romney, in fact, sounded Christie out for VP last year by asking him if he’d be willing to resign so that this rule would be lifted.) Hard for me to believe that a guy known as a red-meat conservative who flamed out spectacularly in 2012 will be the choice of New York Republicans in a field that might include Jeb Bush and/or Marco Rubio, but if you’re looking for a candidate who’s good for business and the economy, can’t argue against RP.

What’s his niche in the primaries if he does run, though? Conventional wisdom says 2016 will be a “fresh faces” election for the GOP. After last year’s dismal field and the next-in-line nomination of McCain in 2008, the party’s supposedly going to counter the “old news” that is Hillary with a young up-and-comer — Rubio, Jindal, Rand Paul, Christie, maybe Paul Ryan. The argument for Perry in a field like that is executive experience and economic growth, but those strike me as better credentials for a general election than for a primary. He’ll be to 2016 what Mitt Romney was to 2012, the guy who underperformed his first time out and is back now for a second look, except facing a vastly stronger array of opponents. I don’t think he ends up as the establishment choice, either: That’ll be either Jeb, which would detonate the “fresh faces” logic, or Rubio, who’s carried so much water lately for pro-amnesty interests inside the Beltway and on Wall Street. Perry strikes me as the kinda sorta solid candidate who’s a strong back-up in case everyone else is unacceptable — again, just like Romney four years ago — but what state will the party have arrived at if everyone else in what looks to be a strong field has crumbled by 2016? We’re not going to need a back-up in 2016. Are we?


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Let me be the first. Quitter!

:)

faraway on July 8, 2013 at 4:04 PM

I’m surprised for all the love for Perry here. I thought anyone who supported immigration reform was a RINO traitor?

terryannonline on July 8, 2013 at 4:04 PM

He has had his time. Glad he is moving on…

OmahaConservative on July 8, 2013 at 4:04 PM

…if you’re looking for a candidate who’s good for business and the economy, can’t argue against RP.

Yet, they will.

cozmo on July 8, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Conventional wisdom says 2016 will be a “fresh faces” election for the GOP.

Conventional wisdom is stupid. That said, it should only be governors. No more egomaniac senators with no executive experience. We need people able to beat Cuomo and Hillary.

Iblis on July 8, 2013 at 4:06 PM

terryannonline on July 8, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Perry doesnt support immigration reform. he has always been staunchly in favor of a secure border. being willing to give in-state rates to those who qualify even if illegal isnt a very smart thing but it’s a far cry from trying to amnesty 11 million illegals. perry wants to stop them at the border and deport the ones we catch.

chasdal on July 8, 2013 at 4:08 PM

I’m disappointed. He was a great governor, and should have stayed on the job, as long as he wanted.

Raquel Pinkbullet on July 8, 2013 at 4:09 PM

The argument for Perry in a field like that is executive experience and economic growth, but those strike me as better credentials for a general election than for a primary.

Except among that field Jindal will have that too. 8 years instead of 12, but good enough for him to claim executive experience as much as Perry. Walker as well, if he enters. Not two full terms, but notable well publicized victories to his name.

Perry is betting on the GOP’s preference for established names and older candidates. Possible. Establishment choice will be Christie, as I expect Jeb and Rubio won’t run. Perry could sort of bridge that gap, but he’ll need to have a stellar early debate experience to counter the fears that will holdover from “Oops.”

Gingotts on July 8, 2013 at 4:11 PM

If Buzzwords and Zingers are more important than actual record of achievements than Perry is not qualified… In 2012 it was proven that the political junkies who make up a large part of primary voters wanted a talker not a doer… Will they repeat the same stupid mistake again in 2016? We shall see….

mnjg on July 8, 2013 at 4:12 PM

We need people able to beat Cuomo and Hillary.

Iblis on July 8, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Not to worry. I’m sure Karl Rove and his bunch have already hand-picked someone who’s ELECTABLE.

CurtZHP on July 8, 2013 at 4:12 PM

the party’s supposedly going to counter the “old news” that is Hillary with a young up-and-comer — Rubio, Jindal, Rand Paul, Christie, maybe Paul Ryan. The argument for Perry in a field like that is executive experience and economic growth

If that were the entire field, Rick Perry would also have the advantage of being either the strongest or second strongest social conservative of the bunch (the other candidate for the lead there being Jindal).

I also don’t think the argument for Perry is economic growth. The argument for Perry would be that he’s “one of us,” and has the record to prove it on the issues. Rick Perry’s best debate answer during the entire set of 2012 debates was his answer on the death penalty. Economic growth is just the icing on the cake.

Stoic Patriot on July 8, 2013 at 4:13 PM

The WH is already lost for Republicans in 2016. There is absolutely no way the any of these Republican candidates beat Hillary. There wont be any lousy economy for the Republicans to run on plus the media will never allow some Texan to beat the first female president.

Best the Republicans can do is keep the House.

loveofcountry on July 8, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Perry doesnt support immigration reform. he has always been staunchly in favor of a secure border. being willing to give in-state rates to those who qualify even if illegal isnt a very smart thing but it’s a far cry from trying to amnesty 11 million illegals. perry wants to stop them at the border and deport the ones we catch.

chasdal on July 8, 2013 at 4:08 PM

link

terryannonline on July 8, 2013 at 4:14 PM

As I said above – he gave a great speech. It sure sounded to me like he’s seriously considering running. I hope he does. The guy definitely has the resume for it.

gophergirl on July 8, 2013 at 4:14 PM

I’m disappointed. He was a great governor, and should have stayed on the job, as long as he wanted.

Raquel Pinkbullet on July 8, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Weird. It sounds like he stayed as long as he wanted…

Fallon on July 8, 2013 at 4:15 PM

The WH is already lost for Republicans in 2016. There is absolutely no way the any of these Republican candidates beat Hillary. There wont be any lousy economy for the Republicans to run on plus the media will never allow some Texan to beat the first female president.

Best the Republicans can do is keep the House.

loveofcountry on July 8, 2013 at 4:13 PM

You have already surrendered in 2013… Keep up the great work coward…

mnjg on July 8, 2013 at 4:15 PM

And you cannot force your will and have a guy serve as governor even if he thinks its time for new blood.

cozmo on July 8, 2013 at 3:39 PM

since your on this thread i moved this conversation here. i dont know why you are bringing this up. i’m not advocating for Perry to run again. if he did i’d vote for him but its his choice. i hope he made it to run for president again. he’s got too much talent to sit on the bench but if he decides it’s time to either go private sector or relax i respect it.

chasdal on July 8, 2013 at 4:15 PM

After the special session is over Perry will continue to travel and recruit business to Texas…While he’s doing that he’ll be meeting folks in a lot of states.

When he’s ready I think he’ll formally announce another run for POTUS and he’ll be prepared.

Perry is an old school candidate…likes meeting people and talking with voters at townhalls….and voters like him when they meet him.

I think this is a smart move on his part.

workingclass artist on July 8, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Perry has been a great Gov, I will truly miss him

But it’s Abbott’s time, he’s earned it

Looking forward to Abbott crushing Abortion Barbie or whichever of those creepy Castro losers the Dims try to run for Gov

Abbott will be a fantastic Gov for several years to come

I was rooting for Perry as much as anyone in 2012 for POTUS but he blew it bad– in this media/internet age, you can’t rebound from a performance like that

I’d happily vote for him in the primary over anyone not named Cruz or Paul, and maybe still over Paul, but he has no prayer in the joke of a reality show/debate contest the primary has become…

This was an historic tenure as a Governor, let’s celebrate that for a moment

thurman on July 8, 2013 at 4:16 PM

loveofcountry on July 8, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Riiiiiigggghhhht.

WitchDoctor on July 8, 2013 at 4:16 PM

terryannonline on July 8, 2013 at 4:14 PM

link

chasdal on July 8, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Question: If Perry has his eye on another presidential run, why retire now in order to run in 2016 rather than run as a sitting governor?

Uh, did you see how he performed in 2012? He needs to be able to focus 100% on running for President if he’s planning to take another crack at it.

As for where he ranks compared to the other potential 2016 candidates, I like his chances better than CRISTie, Rubio, or Bush. All 4 have baggage, but Perry’s is the kind that can be overcome rather quickly with a few solid speeches and improved debate performances. I don’t see how the others manage to win over conservative voters whom they’ve spent a long time alienating.

Doughboy on July 8, 2013 at 4:18 PM

They just can’t stand that his conservative policies have made Texas one of the best states in the union, while their liberal utopias flounder and fail.

Raquel Pinkbullet on July 8, 2013 at 4:18 PM

It’s not going to be a matter of who occupied the governor’s chair longest, it’s going to be about their records and whether they can connect with the vague, amorphous organization euphemistically called the Tea Party.

alwaysfiredup on July 8, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Congratulations on a successful Governorship!

Bmore on July 8, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Weird. It sounds like he stayed as long as he wanted…

Fallon on July 8, 2013 at 4:15 PM

Brain fart. I meant to say I would have wanted him to stay longer.

Raquel Pinkbullet on July 8, 2013 at 4:20 PM

link

chasdal on July 8, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Wow. He wants to secure the border. Every politician says they want to secure the border…..even Obama says that.

terryannonline on July 8, 2013 at 4:20 PM

loveofcountry on July 8, 2013 at 4:13 PM

I’m increasingly growing toward tuning out when I come across the assumption that Hillary is minimally electable for 2016, let alone the assumption that she will win.

I don’t doubt the stupidity of the American electorate, not after last November, but I remain convinced, as I was in 2007 that she will not get through the primary. That’s if she runs.

Gingotts on July 8, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Although he may have many positive attributes as governor, show me where he reigned in government and expanded freedom. If we do not shrink this behemoth called the feral government soon…nothing else matters. I don’t care if Texas has 0% unemployment…so did Auschwitz.

trs on July 8, 2013 at 4:21 PM

The WH is already lost for Republicans in 2016. There is absolutely no way the any of these Republican candidates beat Hillary. There wont be any lousy economy for the Republicans to run on plus the media will never allow some Texan to beat the first female president.

Best the Republicans can do is keep the House.

loveofcountry on July 8, 2013 at 4:13 PM

So you’ve looked into your crystal ball and seen a full repeal of Obamacare in the future? Cuz anything short of that will continue to stifle economic growth. Or do you think Obama postponed the employer mandate in his signature piece of legislation for a year just for kicks?

Doughboy on July 8, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Stoic Patriot on July 8, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Problem is that 99.9% of the public, and an equal percentage of business owners had no clue as to the importance of his first policy speech, in Pittsburg, during the presidential primary actually was.

If Perry had of been elected, our economy would be rocking and rolling unlike any time since WWII. We’d already be manufacturing lots more and since it would have forced natural gas prices to rise where dry gas could make a profit, we’d be drilling one heck of a lot more than we are now.

Kermit on July 8, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Palin/Perry 2016!

DarkCurrent on July 8, 2013 at 4:24 PM

The WH is already lost for Republicans in 2016. There is absolutely no way the any of these Republican candidates beat Hillary. There wont be any lousy economy for the Republicans to run on plus the media will never allow some Texan to beat the first female president.

Best the Republicans can do is keep the House.

loveofcountry on July 8, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Benghazi isn’t going away…and if Obama can he’ll blame it on Killary.

Other State Department Scandals have just started to unfold for Killary as well.

She will never be POTUS.

workingclass artist on July 8, 2013 at 4:25 PM

chasdal on July 8, 2013 at 4:15 PM

I still have that open.

You are the one bringing it up and ranting at anyone who has a problem with Perry. Even though they stated that problem would not preclude them from supporting Perry.

Though here, you may actually find some Perry-hatin’ nutballs to tussle with.

cozmo on July 8, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Did anyone else see “RP” and instinctively think “Ron Paul”? (or Rand, for that matter?)

I find it interesting (and happy) that Greg Abbott is being hailed over Lt. Gov Dewhurst. Dewhurst hasn’t exactly been the best conservative.

Mohonri on July 8, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Palin/Perry 2016!

DarkCurrent on July 8, 2013 at 4:24 PM

I also think Perry/Paul would be a good ticket.

gophergirl on July 8, 2013 at 4:25 PM

DarkCurrent on July 8, 2013 at 4:24 PM

At least one, Perry, would know something about oil and natural gas. He could fill the other in so that she would not be clueless.

Kermit on July 8, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Well,me didn’t see that coming,and I blame the Poisonous Political
Climate,that Obama has brought to fruitation!!

canopfor on July 8, 2013 at 4:27 PM

Palin/Perry 2016!

DarkCurrent on July 8, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Perry is a top dog.

workingclass artist on July 8, 2013 at 4:27 PM

The top 10 states in the country with the best economic stability are all conservative republican states. The bottom list, you guessed it, goes to Michigan, New York, California…etc. Many of those states in the top list have state tax. What does that mean? First this means, that zero credit should go to Obama for any positive economic news, because that positive economic news is definitely not occurring in liberal infested states. So whatever credit the Obama is supposedly getting right now for the positive economic outlook and job numbers is not his to trumpet. It is thanks to the conservative states.

Secondly, to have any real economic potential a state must first be fiscally responsible; another words get its budget in order by cutting spending where it is necessary. And lastly, you have to create a good climate to attract businesses, which means ease on taxes and regulations.

Sadly, the two of these simple solutions are foreign to the libs and their captain behind the ship.

Raquel Pinkbullet on July 8, 2013 at 4:28 PM

There is absolutely no way the any of these Republican candidates beat Hillary.

I’m sorry but Hillary is completely beatable. There is a reason why Dems were so eager to discard her in 2008.

terryannonline on July 8, 2013 at 4:28 PM

Mohonri on July 8, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Dewhurst has gotten a LOT of good conservative legislation, many considered impossible, passed. He’s just not a good campaigner.

Abbott is the mac daddy who made Cruz look good as solicitor general for TX.

Kermit on July 8, 2013 at 4:28 PM

I’d happily vote for him in the primary over anyone not named Cruz or Paul, and maybe still over Paul, but he has no prayer in the joke of a reality show/debate contest the primary has become…

This was an historic tenure as a Governor, let’s celebrate that for a moment

thurman on July 8, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Absolutely right about the primaries becoming a massive joke based on buzzwords and zingers during the debate… The very disappointing thing here is that our voters should be smarter than that and elect someone based on actual achievement and not the ability to throw a buzzword, zinger, and stupid red meat rhetoric.

However I am more optimistic that if he decides to run in 2016 he would prepare himself better for the circus of the debates…

mnjg on July 8, 2013 at 4:29 PM

I also think Perry/Paul would be a good ticket.

gophergirl on July 8, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Perry would be more likely to go with Jindal or Martinez…someone like that.

Rand Paul has a daddy problemo…Daddy pipes up every once and a while and says stupid things.

workingclass artist on July 8, 2013 at 4:30 PM

Question for Allah. Why do the metrics of losing in the primary hurt Perry but not Hillary? And their respective records since their losses couldn’t be more stark and in Perry’s favor.

It’s Cruz if he decides to run anyway..

DanMan on July 8, 2013 at 4:31 PM

What a handsome, handsome man my Governor is…

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on July 8, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Palin/Perry 2016!

DarkCurrent on July 8, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Palin/Cruz… And, I’m serious.

Fallon on July 8, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Perry was my first choice in ’12, until he flamed out, and he’d be right up there again in ’16. A good, solid 12-year record as governor trumps the few years in the Senate of Rubio and Paul, anyway. I like Jindal, too, but I don’t think he runs. (And I hope Jeb doesn’t…)

changer1701 on July 8, 2013 at 4:33 PM

How soon before Snowpatch tries and hitch her wagon to Professor Perry’s? By doing so she believes she will draw parity between their towering intellects. Actually she will remind everybody that she couldn’t keep the job for one term.

Palin – Perry 2016

Keep on quitting!

Capitalist Hog on July 8, 2013 at 4:34 PM

I still have that open.

You are the one bringing it up and ranting at anyone who has a problem with Perry. Even though they stated that problem would not preclude them from supporting Perry.

Though here, you may actually find some Perry-hatin’ nutballs to tussle with.

cozmo on July 8, 2013 at 4:25 PM

you brought up term limits. i wasnt “ranting at anyone who has a problem with Perry.” i pointed out dinging him on eminent domian is stupid. what he proposed doing was consititutional. when the support wasnt there he dropped the issue. and still almost 10 years later people like you hold it against him. you say you vote for him, fine. he has plenty of flaws, but that aint one of them.

chasdal on July 8, 2013 at 4:35 PM

However I am more optimistic that if he decides to run in 2016 he would prepare himself better for the circus of the debates…

mnjg on July 8, 2013 at 4:29 PM

I think he’d be better prepared and won’t do the debate a week schedule either.

He’ll do an old school campaign meeting voters…and he’s very good at that.

There were only a few primary debates when Reagan ran…and that’s how it should be…Make the media follow the candidates on the trail.

Perry will favor local media over national media…He’s old school that way and he’ll reach out to new media which he’s been doing for years in Texas…He Hosts a blogger event in Austin every year.

The debate schedule was last time was insane.

workingclass artist on July 8, 2013 at 4:35 PM

Perry would be more likely to go with Jindal or Martinez…someone like that.

Rand Paul has a daddy problemo…Daddy pipes up every once and a while and says stupid things.

workingclass artist on July 8, 2013 at 4:30 PM

I just think Paul would bring the libertarians into the fold the easiest. To be honest I would take a combination of the following people and be very happy

Perry, Paul, Cruz, Palin, Jindal, Martinez, Walker,

gophergirl on July 8, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Leftist Pig

Bmore on July 8, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Palin/Perry 2016!

DarkCurrent on July 8, 2013 at 4:24 PM

keep chasing that dream, she’ll never run.

chasdal on July 8, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Keep on quitting!

Capitalist Hog on July 8, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Perry is not quitting. He serving out his term. The dude has been Governor of Texas all my adult life.

terryannonline on July 8, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Question for Allah. Why do the metrics of losing in the primary hurt Perry but not Hillary? And their respective records since their losses couldn’t be more stark and in Perry’s favor.

It’s Cruz if he decides to run anyway..

DanMan on July 8, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Good question.

If Perry runs again I don’t think Cruz will run…He’s young and he’ll wait.

He’s already potentially a new senate leader and he’s only been there 6 months.

We need reform in the senate.

workingclass artist on July 8, 2013 at 4:39 PM

She will never be POTUS.
workingclass artist on July 8, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Wanna bet? We already have our first black president and he was so great that we elected him twice. It’s time for the first female president. Its a popularity contest. If you think some southern white guy has a chance to deny America from electing the first female president, you’ve got another thing coming.

Partisans like you and I do not win elections.

loveofcountry on July 8, 2013 at 4:39 PM

I just think Paul would bring the libertarians into the fold the easiest. To be honest I would take a combination of the following people and be very happy

Perry, Paul, Cruz, Palin, Jindal, Martinez, Walker,

gophergirl on July 8, 2013 at 4:36 PM

this conversation was had a few days back, my contention is that paul only brings the libertarians that have conservative bent already. and they will vote for perry w/o paul on the ticket. he has to appeal to those who dont want to vote for a conservative. the voters who naturally gravitate to mccain, graham,etc. use to call the rockefeller republicans. he needs a more liberal running mate. those you listed are all off the table due being perceived as conservatives.

chasdal on July 8, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Wanna bet? We already have our first black president and he was so great that we elected him twice. It’s time for the first female president. Its a popularity contest. If you think some southern white guy has a chance to deny America from electing the first female president, you’ve got another thing coming.

Partisans like you and I do not win elections.

loveofcountry on July 8, 2013 at 4:39 PM

She clearly doesn’t want it.

terryannonline on July 8, 2013 at 4:41 PM

terryannonline on July 8, 2013 at 4:37 PM

damn, you’re young,

chasdal on July 8, 2013 at 4:41 PM

“No, I don’t support a fence on the border,” he said, while referring to the long border in Texas alone. “The fact is, it’s 1,200 miles from Brownsville to El Paso. Two things: How long you think it would take to build that? And then if you build a 30-foot wall from El Paso to Brownsville, the 35-foot ladder business gets real good.”

Instead, Perry said he supported “strategic fencing” and National Guard troops to prevent illegal immigration and violence from Mexican drug cartels.

The answer produced an angry shout from at least one audience member. And it exposed an ongoing rift with some conservative voters over Perry’s immigration record.

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/09/ap-purposely-mislead-readers-on-rick-perry-cherry-pick-his-statement-on-border-security-lie-about-audience-reaction/

Axe on July 8, 2013 at 4:41 PM

gophergirl on July 8, 2013 at 4:36 PM

Libertarian purists will vote for whichever libertarian candidates run…Libertarian leaning will likely vote for the best economic and constitutional conservative.

Perry is a states rights politician…so there’s that.

workingclass artist on July 8, 2013 at 4:42 PM

chasdal on July 8, 2013 at 4:35 PM

I wasn’t the one who stated he had a problem with Perry. I have many problems with Perry. None of which would cause me to support a lesser candidate.

You were calling names towards people with legitimate problems with Perry, yet they still support him.

You may want to hold your fire next time.

There are plenty of Perry-hatin’ nutballs for you to after. By going after folks who have a problem with a guy that has held statewide office for more than twenty years you would be taking on everybody except Kool-aid drinkers.

cozmo on July 8, 2013 at 4:43 PM

She will never be POTUS.
workingclass artist on July 8, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Plus she will raise more money than any Republican will ever think of. Only way the Republicans have a chance if if the dems nominate some stiff like Cuomo or O’Malley

loveofcountry on July 8, 2013 at 4:43 PM

The WH is already lost for Republicans in 2016. There is absolutely no way the any of these Republican candidates beat Hillary. There wont be any lousy economy for the Republicans to run on plus the media will never allow some Texan to beat the first female president.

Best the Republicans can do is keep the House.

loveofcountry on July 8, 2013 at 4:13 PM

I’m sorry but Hillary is completely beatable. There is a reason why Dems were so eager to discard her in 2008.

terryannonline on July 8, 2013 at 4:28 PM

Hillary is also beatable in the democratic primaries. All it will take is one black candidate that says “why do you want to go back to old white people?” and it’ll get ugly.

slickwillie2001 on July 8, 2013 at 4:44 PM

She will never be POTUS.
workingclass artist on July 8, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Wanna bet? We already have our first black president and he was so great that we elected him twice. It’s time for the first female president. Its a popularity contest. If you think some southern white guy has a chance to deny America from electing the first female president, you’ve got another thing coming.

Partisans like you and I do not win elections.

loveofcountry on July 8, 2013 at 4:39 PM

Think whatever you want.

Killary will never be POTUS.

workingclass artist on July 8, 2013 at 4:45 PM

After last year’s dismal field and the next-in-line nomination of McCain in 2008, the party’s supposedly going to counter the “old news” that is Hillary with a young up-and-comer — Rubio, Jindal, Rand Paul, Christie, maybe Paul Ryan. The argument for Perry in a field like that is executive experience and economic growth

Um, the argument for Jindal in a field like that is executive experience and economic growth.

And for making a blue state red.

And for making a corrupt state clean.

itsnotaboutme on July 8, 2013 at 4:46 PM

Hillary is also beatable in the democratic primaries. All it will take is one black candidate that says “why do you want to go back to old white people?” and it’ll get ugly.

slickwillie2001 on July 8, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Yep.

The Obama faction will never let Killary win.

workingclass artist on July 8, 2013 at 4:48 PM

Let me be the first. Quitter!

:)

faraway on July 8, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Bimbo!

John the Libertarian on July 8, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Hillary is also beatable in the democratic primaries

You know I keep on hearing about Andrew Cuomo running in 2016….I’m curious as to why I’ve never heard or seen him?

terryannonline on July 8, 2013 at 4:49 PM

The view from Mordor:

As Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) barnstorms through the early primary states talking up his far-right views, many Tea Partiers remain unsettled about Perry’s record of relative tolerance regarding undocumented immigrants.

During his tenure as governor, Perry made Texas the first state in the nation to sign a “DREAM Act,” granting in-state tuition to all students at public universities in Texas, regardless of their immigration status. He also opposed a harsh immigration bill like Arizona’s SB 1070 in his state, saying such a move “would not be the right direction for Texas.” Perry even said he could support a “path to citizenship for people who are here illegally” if it accompanies border security.

As a result of his policies as governor, many in the Republican Party view Perry as insufficiently cruel to immigrants. Now, as the issue threatens to turn off Republican primary voters who might otherwise be sympathetic to his hard right record, Perry is changing his tone.

During a business roundtable yesterday in Bedford, New Hampshire, a questioner pressed Perry on the issue of immigration. After the Texas Governor tried to end the conversation multiple times by saying that we just needed to “secure the border,” the questioner challenged Perry about his plan for the millions of “illegals” already in the country. Though Perry noted we can’t “ship 12 million people back to whatever country they come from,” he backtracked on his previous support for a pathway to citizenship. Said Perry, “you gotta come up with a way that clearly stays away from this issue of making individuals legal citizens of the United States if they haven’t gone through the proper process.”

QUESTIONER: A follow-up. What’s your plan with the illegals that are already here?

PERRY: At that particular point in time, I think you have a good conversation about how do you deal with the numbers of people that are here illegally. Obviously you’re correct, you’re not going to ship 12 million people back to whatever country they come from, but you gotta come up with a way that clearly stays away from this issue of making individuals legal citizens of the United States if they haven’t gone through the proper process.

http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2011/08/18/297981/rick-perry-flip-flop-immigration/

Axe on July 8, 2013 at 4:50 PM

What’s his niche in the primaries if he does run, though?

This has got to be a joke question, right?

Red-meat conservative, long-serving governor with executive experience, governor of a booming state economically (if that holds out through ’16, of course), can bring social conservatives in, military background (though not during wartime, I think?)…

He checks all the boxes of Reagan’s “three-legged stool:” Strong national defense, strong free-market principles, and strong traditional social values.

Our two most recent (losing!) GOP candidates did not have all three legs securely under their campaigns, IMO.

There are things I’d disagree with Perry on, and won’t say today that he’s “my” candidate for 2016. However, when faced with the options you’ve listed as likely alternatives, allahpundit, I’m sure not prepared to cross him off the top names of my personal list…

cs89 on July 8, 2013 at 4:50 PM

I’m sorry but Hillary is completely beatable. There is a reason why Dems were so eager to discard her in 2008.

terryannonline on July 8, 2013 at 4:28 PM

Discard her for who? O’Malley? Cuomo? Biden? Hahahaha

loveofcountry on July 8, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Discard her for who? O’Malley? Cuomo? Biden? Hahahaha

loveofcountry on July 8, 2013 at 4:50 PM

She might win the Dem primary but no way is she a shoo-in in the general.

terryannonline on July 8, 2013 at 4:54 PM

chasdal on July 8, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Great! That means I’m young too!

loveofcountry on July 8, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Hillary was supposed to win in 2008. She was “inevitable.” Seems like some people really do ignore history.

change is for suckers on July 8, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Texas Gov. Rick Perry not seeking re-election

Texas state Sen. Wendy Davis:

‘I congratulate Gov. Perry on his lifetime of public service and I feel confident the next campaign will sort itself out – @NNExpress

2 mins ago from twitter.com/NNExpress by editor
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canopfor on July 8, 2013 at 4:57 PM

She might win the Dem primary but no way is she a shoo-in in the general.

terryannonline on July 8, 2013 at 4:54 PM

She’ll win the Dem primary in a walk and be very tough in the general. How can America not go for the first female president?

changer1701 on July 8, 2013 at 4:58 PM

She might win the Dem primary but no way is she a shoo-in in the general.

terryannonline on July 8, 2013 at 4:54 PM

She reminds way too many men of their ex-wives or mothers-in-law.

CurtZHP on July 8, 2013 at 4:59 PM

She’ll win the Dem primary in a walk and be very tough in the general. How can America not go for the first female president?

changer1701 on July 8, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Republicans might have a “first” of their own they nominate Rubio or Jindal.

terryannonline on July 8, 2013 at 5:00 PM

There is some historical precedent

DarkCurrent on July 8, 2013 at 5:02 PM

She might win the Dem primary but no way is she a shoo-in in the general.
terryannonline on July 8, 2013 at 4:54 PM

You are right, no one is a shoo-in. But you’ve gotta admit her chances are very very favorable. The only reason Obama beat her was because she was for the Iraq war. A no no at that time for dems.

Fast forward to 2013, Hispanics love her. Blacks love her. Lunch bucket Democrats love her. Except for Benghazi which only matters to Republicans, her record is stellar. Once again, the Republicans are better off spending money to keep the House.

loveofcountry on July 8, 2013 at 5:06 PM

Why Perry over young up-and-comers like Rubio, Jindal, Rand Paul, Christie, and Paul Ryan?

Because he is a (likable) fighter who has demonstrated consistency through several years in public office. Rubio, Rand Paul, Christie, and Paul Ryan are ALL giant question marks. Rubio outright lied to us about his stance on amnesty. Rand Paul has yet to prove where he stands on the libertarian/conservative divide–and how far into his father’s nuttiness he may drift. Christie has betrayed the values of the party on so many issues now I expect him to go Independent or Democrat at any time. Paul Ryan lacks executive experience. Jindal might make a decent candidate–but he still lacks the charisma and comfort with the spotlight that Perry possesses (which doesn’t mean he’d make a bad president, just that the road to get him there might be harder).

Anyway, definitely count me in the “skeptical of the young up-and-comers” camp. We need a Perry or a Palin–someone who has demonstrated consistency and fought faithfully and optimistically for the good of the country throughout the Obama years. And I honestly think–in a gut-level instinct kind of way–that if Perry doesn’t win the party nomination and the presidency, it’s the country’s loss, not his. He could be one of the greats, not just some guy we toss out there because we have to run someone against Hillary or whomever the Dems choose.

butterflies and puppies on July 8, 2013 at 5:06 PM

It’s a shame that Perry has decided to retire–he’s been a great Governor for 12-1/2 years, going on 14 years. But maybe he wants to prepare his own successor, as he was prepared by George W. Bush.

As a Presidential candidate in 2012, Perry was a lousy debater, but (as it turned out), he had a more winnable program, if he had presented it well. In one of the early GOP debates, Romney went after Perry’s offer of in-state tuition of children of illegal aliens, and tried to tack hard-right on the immigration issue, which ended up costing Romney lots of Hispanic votes in the general election. As Governor of an energy-rich state, Perry would be able to a present a strong alternative to Obama’s efforts to kill the entire fossil-fuel industry via the EPA.

Still, it’s not clear whether Perry would be our best candidate in 2016. Jeb Bush would probably look bad because of his last name, and he missed his best opportunity by not running for the Senate in Florida in 2006 and 2012, but Perry is also a successor of George W. Bush. By 2016, Bobby Jindal will be a 2-1/2 term Governor, and both Scott Walker and Chris Christie will have more than one term, and Scott Walker will have the advantage of having “turned around” the economy of a blue state, which could help him with “swing voters” while not losing conservative voters.

Steve Z on July 8, 2013 at 5:09 PM

We need reform in the senate.

workingclass artist on July 8, 2013 at 4:39 PM

indeed, what a dream to have Ted Cruz as Senate majority leader. Every time a dem liberal proposes something stupid Ted would have a very quick response with a constitutional reference and all the time he needs to explain it. After a few weeks of that it would be over except for the learning.

Cruz as senate majority leader, Abbott as Texas gov. Dang!

DanMan on July 8, 2013 at 5:11 PM

The only Texan I want to see running in the 2016 primaries is Cruz. Perry is too gaffe prone to make it out of the primaries anyway.

cdog0613 on July 8, 2013 at 5:20 PM

I’m sorry but Hillary is completely beatable. There is a reason why Dems were so eager to discard her in 2008.
terryannonline on July 8, 2013 at 4:28 PM

I agree. I don’t think Perry stands a chance of being nominated to run against her with the “stupid” rep following him around. I’d look for a relatively new face, e.g. Rand Paul or the like.

whatcat on July 8, 2013 at 5:21 PM

It is truly a shame that he can’t Constitutionally run for President on a ticket with Ted Cruz as his Vice-Presidential nominee. That would be a great ticket.

I still have his bumper sticker on my car from his 2012 run and it is the only bumper sticker on my car.

Hmmmm…. could a once Democrat turned Republican who is a governor of a very large state and who once failed in a run for the Presidency ever succeed in a run for the Presidency against all odds and the RINO Republican Leadership and actually make a great President? Nah, it could never happen.

Run, Perry, Run!

Theophile on July 8, 2013 at 5:27 PM

I wasn’t the one who stated he had a problem with Perry. I have many problems with Perry. None of which would cause me to support a lesser candidate.

You were calling names towards people with legitimate problems with Perry, yet they still support him.

You may want to hold your fire next time.

There are plenty of Perry-hatin’ nutballs for you to after. By going after folks who have a problem with a guy that has held statewide office for more than twenty years you would be taking on everybody except Kool-aid drinkers.

cozmo on July 8, 2013 at 4:43 PM

no, it wasnt a legitimate problem at all. it was concern trolling.

chasdal on July 8, 2013 at 5:28 PM

Perry-Palin – 2016!

Another Drew on July 8, 2013 at 5:30 PM

cozmo on July 8, 2013 at 4:43 PM

as for holding fire, it works both ways. the OP was dinging perry for supporting a project that was well within the bounds of what the Constititution allows. he said he has issues w/ perry’s use of “imminent” domain and gives an example that is not an abuse by any means. why bash perry for trying to lead? and as i stated he backed off when the public didnt want to follow in that direction.

chasdal on July 8, 2013 at 5:31 PM

if you’re looking for a candidate who’s good for business and the economy, can’t argue against RP.

Which RP? Rand Paul or Rick Perry?

Seriously, I’m not sure Rick Perry is the right guy for the top of the ticket in 2016 but between leaving office and the next Presidential election he has plenty of opportunity to carve out a niche and a following. He can grow a constituency that the GOP will not be able to ignore if they try to foist an idiot like Jeb Bush as the “most electable.”

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Hillary is VERY beatable in the general election. If she had won the 2008 Democrat nomination, she would have been President between 2009-2012, because at that time, she had been in the Senate for 8 years and First Lady for the 8 previous years.

But by 2016, what will voters remember about her previous 8 years? Losing the primaries to Obama? Serving four years as Secretary of State and botching everything she touched–not only Benghazi but the Arab Spring and even Honduras? Then being out of office for four years–because neither Schumer nor Gillibrand will clear a place for her in a Senate race between now and 2016.

Then there’s the electorate of 2016–a voter who will be 30 years old in 2016 was only 14 years old during the last of the (Bill) Clinton years, and a college student in 2016 would not remember the 1990′s as a child. Young voters who went gaga for the young, “cool” Obama would not have the same attitudes toward a 69-year-old Hillary, especially if they can’t find jobs in the Obamaconomy, especially if she is faced by a Republican Governor in his/her 50′s promising a strong economic revival, with the state experience to prove it.

People might wonder whether Hillary would have an advantage among women voters. But, by 2016, what would Hillary have done in the previous 8 years that Sarah Palin hadn’t done in 2008?

Steve Z on July 8, 2013 at 5:33 PM

. There wont be any lousy economy for the Republicans to run on ….

loveofcountry on July 8, 2013 at 4:13 PM

On what planet?

Barring Divine Intervention, the economy will still be in the tank in 2016…
it’s a cinch that lil barry can’t/won’t do anything to get it going again.

Solaratov on July 8, 2013 at 5:33 PM

You are right, no one is a shoo-in. But you’ve gotta admit her chances are very very favorable. The only reason Obama beat her was because she was for the Iraq war. A no no at that time for dems.

Fast forward to 2013, Hispanics love her. Blacks love her. Lunch bucket Democrats love her. Except for Benghazi which only matters to Republicans, her record is stellar. Once again, the Republicans are better off spending money to keep the House.

loveofcountry on July 8, 2013 at 5:06 PM

I can see the adds now:

“Do you want a President who cares so little about American Citizens? Do you want a President who will lie continuously to the American people?”

Queue the scene where she is in front of the Senate committee and says about the people in Bengazi “What difference at this point does it make?

“Elect Rick Perry, who has true executive experience and who knows how to do his job.”

Hillary’s time with Obama and her role in Bengazi has made her way too toxic. They will nominate her, but she should lose.

Theophile on July 8, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Rubio, Jindal, Rand Paul, Christie, maybe Paul Ryan

It is funny man… I think Rubio, Christie and Ryan have no chance… ditto for Jeb… I somehow can’t forget Rand Paul’s vote for Chuck Hagel… maybe others will. As for Jindal he seems to want to lecture everyone… Not sure what others think about him. I could however support Ted Cruz, Scott Walker or Rick Perry.. This country badly needs constitutional and good government folks.

antisocial on July 8, 2013 at 5:37 PM

One person I won’t be voting for is George P. Bush for land commissioner. Jeb’s spawn moved here from Florida because he feels any race he runs in will be a cakewalk.

Abbott’s a great guy and has overcome a lot of obstacles. He’s been in a wheelchair since he was 26 and has never let that stop him.

TxAnn56 on July 8, 2013 at 5:38 PM

There wont be any lousy economy for the Republicans to run on ….
loveofcountry on July 8, 2013 at 4:13 PM

On what planet?
Solaratov on July 8, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Aw com’n, one summer in 8 years will just have to be the ever-elusive “recovery summer”!!

whatcat on July 8, 2013 at 5:39 PM

I could however support Ted Cruz, Scott Walker or Rick Perry.. This country badly needs constitutional and good government folks.

antisocial on July 8, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Walker is pro amnesty and came out for the Senate bill. No thanks.

TxAnn56 on July 8, 2013 at 5:40 PM

@ loveofcountry, who said “her record is stellar”.

Ok, now you’ve stepped beyond concern trolling into pure idiocy.

cdog0613 on July 8, 2013 at 5:41 PM

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