Paul Ryan: Say, what’s this new ObamaCare delay and “honor system” going to cost us?

posted at 7:21 pm on July 8, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Precisely what will be the fiscal impact of the Obama administration’s highly questionable unilateral decision to delay — or perhaps, “stall” might be a more apt word — on ObamaCare’s employer mandate for one year (for now), and then their subsequent and wildly questionable decision to rely on consumers’ self-reported income and insurance statuses as a basis for dishing out subsidies? Paul Ryan would very much like to know, via The Hill:

House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) is requesting a new cost estimate for ObamaCare in light of a decision to delay the law’s employer mandate.

Ryan’s staff asked the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) to reevaluate the law’s budget impact after the White House said Tuesday that larger employers will not be required to offer health insurance until 2015.

The Obama administration also announced Friday that ObamaCare’s new insurance exchanges will not have to verify income information provided by applicants for another year. …

“Chairman Ryan’s staff asked CBO to evaluate the impact of the administration’s recent decisions,” House Budget Committee spokesman William Allison told The Hill.

He added that the healthcare law is “unworkable” and that “workers and families should get relief” from its requirements. …

Indeed. I have the gravest doubts that an open system that hands out “discounts,” and that simultaneously declines to verify whether or not whether or not applicants are actually qualified for said “discounts,” is going to be at all neutral in terms of costs. An updated estimate on that development is in order, please.

But don’t think this little snafu will stop them from promoting the heck out of the whole thing and pushing people to sign up. Here comes the second in a series of Organizing for Action’s campaign-style television ads touting the law’s benefits, beginning to air on Tuesday:


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Probably about as much as your amnesty.

Mark1971 on July 8, 2013 at 7:22 PM

“Organizing for Action”

Next year….

Electrongod on July 8, 2013 at 7:25 PM

Nothing since Comprehensive Immigration Reform will increase wages, tax revenues, solve “climate change”, bring Jesus back, etc. etc. utopia!

Punchenko on July 8, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Why doesn’t Paul Ryan put his teeth in? He always photographs so badly without them.

portlandon on July 8, 2013 at 7:27 PM

AP’s shopping basket: http://tinyurl.com/lotpskt

davidk on July 8, 2013 at 7:27 PM

What do you care Paul? You gutless p*ssies in the House aren’t going to do anything substantive to stop it.

Mike Honcho on July 8, 2013 at 7:28 PM

What a gutless scum sucking pig. The question should be – “Is this Constitutional?” – Oh – “And can we just convene and emergency session of the Supremes and cut this baby in half also?”

oldroy on July 8, 2013 at 7:29 PM

I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’m going for my free Obama money, my free Obama phone and my free ObamaCare. Life is gonna be so sweet.

HiJack on July 8, 2013 at 7:29 PM

Stupid enablers.

How about asking the Dog Eater: “Who the hell gave you the power to arbitrarily change a law at your whim? Are you our king now?”

This is why the GOP is dead to me, they dance around the edges acting tough instead of following the go**am law and dragging that criminal into the dock. Bark illegally changed existing law and the Repubs do what, sit on their thumbs and twirl while grinning like little monkeys.

Bishop on July 8, 2013 at 7:29 PM

I love and admire how Democrats are all about trust.

Don’t worry about verifying your income. We trust you!

Don’t bother showing an ID to vote. We trust you!

Don’t fret over whether we are harvesting data on your every activity. Trust us!

//

BacaDog on July 8, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Just think what it will do to curb “global warming”!

Hell, it supposedly cures just about everything else.

GarandFan on July 8, 2013 at 7:40 PM

Not a dime added to the deficit.

Not. One. Dime.

Chuck Schick on July 8, 2013 at 7:44 PM

Oh come on, Paul, invest a little in all those wonderful newly legalizd, new “constituents” you want to create.

Eat s***, f***tard.

M240H on July 8, 2013 at 7:44 PM

Without the fraud. In the exchanges which CBO can’t estimate in static analysis, the employer mandate was estimated at $115 billion/ten years.

This whole thing is a joke. It’s just to drive people, as many as possible on to the exchanges.

Cloward-Piven, baby.

wolly4321 on July 8, 2013 at 7:46 PM

Gee, Opie, I don’t know. But maybe you should be asking if the lawless president has the Constitutional authority to peremptorily change a law without Congress?

Maybe that’s a slightly more important question?

Just a suggestion. I don’t want to stir up trouble or anything, cause I know how you GOP guys are such sticklers for good etiquette and not wanting to offend anybody.

rrpjr on July 8, 2013 at 7:47 PM

What do you care, Paul Ryan? You are to be the Marco Rubio in the House for the Comprehensive Plan To Destroy America, so what difference at that point will it make?

VorDaj on July 8, 2013 at 7:50 PM

The individual mandate was expected to generate around $46 billion,, however now that we can all go to exchange and claim we have no income and are surviving on rats..

How does the CBO score that?

Paul Ryan is an idiot.

wolly4321 on July 8, 2013 at 7:53 PM

I care not what an amnesty shill has to say.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 8, 2013 at 7:54 PM

Cost us?
Cost us?!
COST US?!

He’s ignoring the constitutional powers of the legislative bodies in an UNCONSTITUTIONAL ACT.

It makes your legislative body nothing more than a rubber stamp with no more authority than his executive orders and you’re worried about the economics of it?!

You’re a FOOL and selling out the power of the legislative houses of government and dangerously damaging our checks and balances of government.

Skywise on July 8, 2013 at 7:55 PM

Employer mandate suspended to 2015: Check
Honor system for subsidies: Check
Subsidies inundated to bankruptcy: Check
Administration doesn’t get ‘marketplace’ online: Check
Single-payer is only answer to save healthcare from not functioning. Game. Set. Match.

No one will be paying for this thing, all will get subsidies. All is well. Nothing to see here…move on.

Resistance is futile!

Patriot Vet on July 8, 2013 at 7:58 PM

It CAN’T be scored.

Espicially not from the “non-partisan” org that called it at $900 billion in the first place. $2.6 trillion last heard??

Try about $10 trillion with 50 million illegals.

wolly4321 on July 8, 2013 at 7:58 PM

In the end they will all protect one another. The Dog Eating Criminal should be standing in a courtroom answering pointed questions right now, but the GOP won’t take it that far because of the “optics” and an election coming up next year.

Ryan can pound sand along with Rubio and the rest of the Royal Class who have forgotten the people they represent.

Bishop on July 8, 2013 at 8:00 PM

Many have used the analogy of Lucy holding the football to illustrate what the left does to the nation. This is what they really do: http://themetapicture.com/media/funny-gif-minions-football.gif

davidk on July 8, 2013 at 8:01 PM

Its like there is a tiny little itsy bitsy storm brewing.

Bmore on July 8, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Paulie, eff you and your sissy friends.

You showed your lack of situational awareness and moxie when you allowed that assclown Biden to get away with his buffoonery during your debate.

Too bad you didn’t go over the cliff along with granny in the wheelchair.

arnold ziffel on July 8, 2013 at 8:03 PM

I hope they’ll update their score based on all the other info that’s come to light, like states and local governments that will dump their retirees into the exchanges.

stout77 on July 8, 2013 at 8:08 PM

but the GOP won’t take it that far because of the “optics” and an election coming up next year.
Bishop on July 8, 2013 at 8:00 PM

They just lurch stiffly from fear to fear. Romney said nothing for fear of saying something wrong. When he let loose ONCE in a press conference questioning Obama’s actions on Benghazi, he was reamed by the media and ran whimpering from any confrontation or controversy ever again. Now they’re all squeezing their sphincters for fear of saying anything that would screw up 2014, as they set about doing (also out of fear) exactly what will screw up 2014. Completely hopeless people. I mean it — the GOP is literally hopeless. But we knew that.

rrpjr on July 8, 2013 at 8:09 PM

I’m guessing it won’t cost nearly as much as the amnesty that Ryan supports.

abobo on July 8, 2013 at 8:17 PM

Simple message to spineless gop leadership……SHUT UP ND DEEEEEEEFUND IT DUMMIES!!!

What a bunch of pathetic losers. The republican Party leadership is just Progressive big gov loving filth like the Dems.

THROW them all out of office!

PappyD61 on July 8, 2013 at 8:24 PM

Waiting for my Obama average $2500 health care cost reduction to kick in!

(My teeth, that is.)

How much will it save the 10 million illegal aliens?

Billions!

It’s a win for all!

Yay!

profitsbeard on July 8, 2013 at 8:26 PM

Paul: here’s a question for you: What is this amnesty with up to 57 million illiterate, unskilled aliens (illegals and family members) going to cost us?

bw222 on July 8, 2013 at 8:27 PM

It probably will cost as much as the stimulus bill, auto bailout bill and the bank bailouts that you voted for Mr Ryan.

Big Orange on July 8, 2013 at 8:28 PM

House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan (R-Traitor)

Who cares what Ryan has to say about anything?

STFU, Ryan. Dirtball.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 8, 2013 at 8:47 PM

Waiting for my Obama average $2500 health care cost reduction to kick in!

profitsbeard on July 8, 2013 at 8:26 PM

You’re a cheap date. I’m holding out for the 3000% reduction in my premiums!!

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 8, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Paul: here’s a question for you: What is this amnesty with up to 57 million illiterate, unskilled aliens (illegals and family members) going to cost us?

bw222 on July 8, 2013 at 8:27 PM

I saw that one time—”A Fistful of Pesos” and “For a Few Pesos More.”

arnold ziffel on July 8, 2013 at 9:11 PM

I saw that one time—”A Fistful of Pesos” and “For a Few Pesos More.”

arnold ziffel on July 8, 2013 at 9:11 PM

I prefer “Hang ‘Em High” for all of the traitors espousing this national suicidal lunacy.

profitsbeard on July 8, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Hey Paul, what the hell does it matter about the costs? The President has arbitrarily decided to selectively roll-out portions of the health care law – and you’re not at all concerned about that? Since when can you pick and choose what part of a law becomes enacted? Shouldn’t that be your major concern?

G*d I hate Washington.

Hill60 on July 8, 2013 at 9:24 PM

Well, at least we now know that Obama will disregard all laws equally, even those he supported. He’s an equal opportunity scofflaw. It’s good to be king.

Philly on July 8, 2013 at 9:34 PM

The question should be – “Is this Constitutional?” – Oh – “And can we just convene and emergency session of the Supremes and cut this baby in half also?”

oldroy on July 8, 2013 at 7:29 PM

No. But Obama care itself isn’t Constitutional. Someone with standing took it to the Supreme Court and they decided to uphold it,basically for political reasons.

So Ryan runs around moaning “Obama unilaterally delaying 1 aspect of Obamacare is unconsitutional!” Then what?

Can he sue to have OBamacare enforced as written? No, as prior analysis suggested, no one would have standing to bring suit because no one is specifically inured by failing to enforce the employer mandate.

Can he impeach Obama for unilaterally deciding not to enforce the employer mandate?

How is this a high crime and misdemeanor? Can the President of the United States be impeached for unilaterally delaying a law for a year. I can’t see that happening. If noting that Obama’s acts are unconstitutional doesn’t get you anywhere, and I can’t see any circumstances where it could, why not try a different approach?

To me that looks like what Ryan is trying.

talkingpoints on July 8, 2013 at 10:09 PM

Paul Ryan: Say, what’s this new ObamaCare delay and “honor system” going to cost us?

Not to worry, the millions of poor and poorly educated new Democrat voters will allow the Democrats to raise taxes to unseen levels which will easily cover these small problems.

They’ll be taxing into prosperity like never before.

RJL on July 8, 2013 at 10:12 PM

Speaking of costs, who could forget this classic Obama gem: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDJSVPAx8xc

VibrioCocci on July 8, 2013 at 10:23 PM

How is this a high crime and misdemeanor? Can the President of the United States be impeached for unilaterally delaying a law for a year.

talkingpoints on July 8, 2013 at 10:09 PM

I think it’d at least be considered a “misdemeanor”.. don’t you?

We impeached clinton for lying under oath… Nixon was going to be impeached for little more…

Now here comes Obama not even enacting the laws as passed by the congress…

Which one of these seems most impeachable to you?

People die because good men do nothing.

Skywise on July 8, 2013 at 10:27 PM

Is Ryan kidding? Is this out of context?

It’s illegal! Unconstitutional!

PattyJ on July 8, 2013 at 11:31 PM

I hope Ryan is reading these comments cause by golly he is taking a beating here in this thread.

Sherman1864 on July 9, 2013 at 8:04 AM

This conspiracy theory of a Cloward-Piven Strategy has no teeth what’s so ever. The administration is not trying to overload the system by increasing the amount paid out to takers and the number of takers on their roles. There is no plan to recklessly spend money with zero or little accountability. Ocean has always been at war with East Asia. Nothing to see here.

LoganSix on July 9, 2013 at 8:06 AM