Gallup: Just two percent of Democrats name MSNBC as their main news source

posted at 2:01 pm on July 8, 2013 by Allahpundit

Schadenfreude-y fun via Noah Rothman on a slow post-holiday news day. Simple question: Why do 20 percent of Republicans say Fox News is their main news source while only two percent of Dems name Fox’s “rival” as their news source of choice? MSNBC’s rating are terrible lately, but they can’t be that terrible.

Can they?

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One obvious possible reason for the skew is the fact that, for Republicans, Fox remains the only big-media game in town. If you’re a Democrat you can go soft liberal to strident liberal across the spectrum, which naturally means more of a split. But still — two percent? Rothman’s right as well that this is a difficult moment for MSNBC in trying to satisfy lefty viewers. For example, on NSA surveillance, do they go hard left in attacking Obama or party shill in defending him? They’re bound to alienate some core viewership however they choose. Then again, Fox faces dilemmas like that too. Do they go right in attacking immigration reform or party shill in defending it? Why is Fox negotiating that challenge better than MSNBC?

I think there are two deeper factors. One was identified by Phil Griffin himself: MSNBC simply isn’t a news network anymore, if it ever was. Fox is news and opinion, MSNBC is … opinion. If you’re a Fox-hating liberal in good standing and there’s news happening in the world, why on earth would you turn to MSNBC instead of CNN? That is to say, I think part of the response to Gallup’s question is due to the phrasing of the question itself: No one (besides two percent of Democrats) thinks MSNBC does or should serve as one’s “main news source.” If they had asked “What’s your favorite cable news outlet?” instead, I bet you’d have seen the MSNBC numbers inch up. Second, and this is related to the point above about Fox being the only game in town for GOPers, I think there’s some segment of conservatives that have been so alienated by mass media bias that they feel they have no choice but to turn to Fox. There’s no equivalent feeling of comprehensive alienation on the left, even though they complain about the media endlessly too. If you’re a liberal and you want a news source you can trust, you can turn to MSNBC or the Times or the Washington Post or NPR as you prefer, depending upon your specific objections to each. If you’re a conservative, you may feel that any news source that isn’t overtly conservative is biased towards the left to one degree or another, which leaves you with one choice. For some of those people, I think preferring Fox is less about Fox itself than about casting a “none of the above” vote against the rest of the media, which brings in lots of extra viewers. And when you toss in the fact that more Republicans get their news from TV (63 percent) than Democrats do (54 percent), you’ve got even more of a skew towards Fox as the “main news source” for some righties.

Exit question: Fully 50 percent of 18-to-29-year-olds prefer TV as their main news source versus just 27 percent who prefer the Internet? Surprising.


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Most liberals are still optimistic that one day Robin Meade will show up with some serious cleavage.

Not.Gonna.Happen.

I gave up years ago.

BobMbx on July 8, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Aaaaaannnnd…..Boom goes the dynamite! Liars, cheaters, and thieves never win in the end. See ya, PMSNBC!

soulmate on July 8, 2013 at 2:06 PM

They need to poll Occupy Wall Street to get favorable numbers for MSNBC.

meci on July 8, 2013 at 2:06 PM

*cough* *bull ship*

They all do. Most of what I hear from liberals sounds like MSNBC talking points. But would you admit it?

smoothsailing on July 8, 2013 at 2:06 PM

So why keep it? Tax write off?

Cindy Munford on July 8, 2013 at 2:07 PM

My brother and sister-in-law (she’s a Democrat) have been CNN addicts for years. But even they are now admitting that CNN has fallen a looooong way as far as the quality of its news gathering.

They actually switched to Faux News on Saturday because CNN was doing such a horrible job with the plane crash. Wolfie Blitzed in particular.

Del Dolemonte on July 8, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Why is that surprising? Only 0.001% of the population name MSNBC as a channel they watch.

The Rogue Tomato on July 8, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Yeah, and if you took a poll, no one reads the National Enquirer, or People magazine either.

right2bright on July 8, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Gallup: Just two percent of Democrats name MSNBC as their main news source

And that 2 percent is all of Ed Schultz’s inbred relatives.

ToddPA on July 8, 2013 at 2:12 PM

LOL

Among 162 Fox News Watchers:

Republican 67%
Independent 31%
Democrat 3%

Obama Approval Rating
Approve 2%
Disapprove 97%
No Opinion 1%

Barky couldn’t even sweep the 5 Democrats they polled that watch Fox News.

Gingotts on July 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Anybody listening to Perry’s announcement?

gophergirl on July 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM

2% is a huge amount of people mainlining idiocy. Just saying

Bensonofben on July 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Expect the commercials:

More Democrats get their news from MSNBC…

vrs. Republicans

Snowblind on July 8, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Perry is not running again.

gophergirl on July 8, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Maybe it’s because of that slightly femmy guy named Rachel….
I would have thought libs would like a newscaster like him….

dentarthurdent on July 8, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Anybody listening to Perry’s announcement?

gophergirl on July 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Not running.

Gingotts on July 8, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Not running.

Gingotts on July 8, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Awesome speech so far.

gophergirl on July 8, 2013 at 2:18 PM

OT: Perry won’t seek re-election in TX.

Chris of Rights on July 8, 2013 at 2:18 PM

Awesome speech so far.

gophergirl on July 8, 2013 at 2:18 PM

Agreed, but won’t derail this thread any further. See you up in the headlines, or in the likely coming main blog post on this.

Gingotts on July 8, 2013 at 2:20 PM

I think far more informative is the percentage of Democrats that bother to get any news at all.

CapnObvious on July 8, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Why do 20 percent of Republicans say Fox News is their main news source while only two percent of Dems name Fox’s “rival” as their news source of choice?

Easy question. Even the spineless worthless toads known as demonrats are ashamed to admit that they watch MSDNC. From Morning Joke to Rachael Madcow and Special Ed, the liberal agenda is so over-the-top strident that it is an embarrasment to confess you watch the network at all.

Seriously, I think both AP’s points are correct. MSDNC is not a news network and lefties have greater choice in picking their propaganda outlet of choice. While the right is constrained the left can opt for National Panhandling Radio, the New York Slimes, or any other of a myriad of choices.

Happy Nomad on July 8, 2013 at 2:23 PM

I call BS. Ratings demonstrate that maybe .02% watch. Unless there are only 400,000 democrats.

jukin3 on July 8, 2013 at 2:25 PM

I think far more informative is the percentage of Democrats that bother to get any news at all.

CapnObvious on July 8, 2013 at 2:22 PM

As reflected in O’bama handily (80+%) winning the vote of high school dropouts in 2012, while at the same time losing the college graduate vote to Romney.

Del Dolemonte on July 8, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Exit question: Fully 50 percent of 18-to-29-year-olds prefer TV as their main news source versus just 27 percent who prefer the Internet? Surprising.

No. Most 18-29 year olds, today, are illiterate. They’re “all wee wee’d up”, whatever the heck that might mean.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 8, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Barky couldn’t even sweep the 5 Democrats they polled that watch Fox News.

Gingotts on July 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM

LOL. At least the Indonesian Dog-Eating Imbecile did better than his budgets do.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 8, 2013 at 2:33 PM

Does anyone know if the new conservative cable channel (America One) launched as planned July 4th? It’s going to be a rough go for it trying to get on with local cable affiliates.

The good news is that there aren’t that many hard-core Democrats out there. The bad news is that FNC is RINO to the core and supports the GOP Establishment and corporatist interests. The best chance to woo rank and file Democrats (e.g. 21st century Reagan Democrats) is via a populist message aimed at middle class America. That isn’t Fox.

bw222 on July 8, 2013 at 2:34 PM

I must be a professional boycotter or something. I refuse to watch MSNBC, because they’re little more than the propaganda arm of the Democratic Party and CNN, because of what Candy Crowley did to Romney during the debates.

I watch Fox and personally, during the 6-7 hour, they have a fine news organization. Between 7-8, if you want a more liberal slant, you can get Shepherd Smith. If you want to get unbiased in-depth news, Greta, at 10 p.m. has one of the best shows because she’s not afraid to ask the tough questions, yet she doesn’t appear to be overly political. I see nothing on CNN or MSNBC to compare to those shows, and they could be for anyone.

Liberals are always complaining about news, if they can’t control it, it can’t be good. Look at the noise created by the Koch Brothers thinking of buying the Tribune Companies. They can’t buy “their newspapers”!!!

bflat879 on July 8, 2013 at 2:34 PM

OK, if only two percet of the entire Lefty world is watching MSNBC, who is paying the bills? Where is the money coming from to keep them on the air?

Johnnyreb on July 8, 2013 at 2:34 PM

I loved The Wonder Years but I don’t want to get my news from Fred Savage or his effeminate twin brother.

mudskipper on July 8, 2013 at 2:35 PM

OK, if only two percet of the entire Lefty world is watching MSNBC, who is paying the bills? Where is the money coming from to keep them on the air?

Johnnyreb on July 8, 2013 at 2:34 PM

MSNBC’s costs are very low. The White House writes all their copy for them … and texts them for quick, on-the-air edits and corrections to the propaganda.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 8, 2013 at 2:37 PM

MSNBC’s competition is not Fox News. Fox News’s principal competition is CNN/HNN.

If MSNBC has a competitor, I would have to say that Glenn Beck’s TV channel is all there is, though the liberals have been successful at keeping it off the cable distribution systems.

slickwillie2001 on July 8, 2013 at 2:38 PM

“Exit question: Fully 50 percent of 18-to-29-year-olds prefer TV as their main news source versus just 27 percent who prefer the Internet? Surprising.”

Sadly, that 50% is watching the smily-face fascist propaganda of jon stewart and stephen colbert.

Ronchris on July 8, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Exit question: Fully 50 percent of 18-to-29-year-olds prefer TV as their main news source versus just 27 percent who prefer the Internet? Surprising.

No, because that demographic group thinks The Daily Show is a news source, which is what most Dems also believe.

gonnjos on July 8, 2013 at 2:46 PM

They can’t buy “their newspapers”!!!

bflat879 on July 8, 2013 at 2:34 PM

Question: why would anyone want to buy print media in 2013? It’s like Range Rover owners – people who have more money than brains.

bw222 on July 8, 2013 at 2:49 PM

They should do a poll to see how many Dems think Chris Hayes
is a Hermaphrodite.

ToddPA on July 8, 2013 at 2:50 PM

I cancelled satellite and every time they called or e-mailed me I told them if I could pick my channels I would reconsider. Told them no way no how I wanted to subsidize CNN and MSLSD. Was told repeatedly they are hearing that more and more.

HULU and Amazon carry all NBC stuff and I think ABC too. Fox only allows snippets. If Fox opened up their access they would dominate because no one can rely on the alphabets on any issue that can be politicized.

DanMan on July 8, 2013 at 2:55 PM

Well, now we know what part of the Dem Party is composed of really strange, off-your-meds type people.

Another Drew on July 8, 2013 at 2:57 PM

MSNBC doesnt do news. They just talk.

faraway on July 8, 2013 at 2:58 PM

Well, now we know what part of the Dem Party is composed of really strange, off-your-meds type people.

Another Drew on July 8, 2013 at 2:57 PM

I thought that was pretty much ALL Dems….

dentarthurdent on July 8, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Let’s see you have a schizophrenic narcissist (Keith Olbermann – or is he totally gone now?); a lesbian trapped in a man’s body (Reggie Madcow); and umm, many other people that nobody’s ever heard of…that’s it.

kirkill on July 8, 2013 at 3:02 PM

but, but, but! Why haven’t all 50 states banned guns yet?!

kirkill on July 8, 2013 at 3:03 PM

they should have included comedy central into that list. with stewart and Colbert, i’m guessing most lefties get their news there, but didn’t want to argue the point because who wants to say they get their news from comedy central…

jetch on July 8, 2013 at 3:08 PM

The lefties around here dont watch MSNBC because the channel right before it shows Leave It To Beaver reruns.It’s on when they light up the first joint.

docflash on July 8, 2013 at 3:17 PM

Perhaps it’s because no one will admit they’re stupid enough to get anything from MSNBC.

GarandFan on July 8, 2013 at 3:19 PM

Gallup: Just two percent of Democrats name MSNBC as their main news source

Forward!!!

into the abyss.

Physics Geek on July 8, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Meh. I haven’t owned a TV in a decade and get all my news on the internet and from blogs I like. The only times that I watch TV news are when I’m traveling on business and I watch it on the hotel TV. When I do that, it’s usually on Fox, even though I think Fox is lame too. But MSNBC? What’s the point? The last thing I need in my life is more pretentious liberals screaming in my face what I’m allowed to think. I can get that just walking down the street.

WhatSlushfund on July 8, 2013 at 3:27 PM

If you look at those numbers, it’s really just a matter of Democrats getting their news from ‘left’ sources and Republicans getting their news from ‘right’ sources.

Knott Buyinit on July 8, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Forward!!!

into the abyss.

Physics Geek on July 8, 2013 at 3:22 PM

“Forward he cried, from the rear, and the front rank died…”

dentarthurdent on July 8, 2013 at 3:27 PM

My mom and stepdad get the Wealth Channel, and they are nuts about the admittedly very well-written travel and historical programming. The guy who runs the channel is talking about starting One America News as another conservative news channel. Anybody have opinions on this?

Sekhmet on July 8, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Question: why would anyone want to buy print media in 2013? It’s like Range Rover owners – people who have more money than brains.

bw222 on July 8, 2013 at 2:49 PM

The people who buy print media these days do so because that’s what they know. It’s where they read about Victory in Europe, Victory in the Pacific, Truman and Marshall’s recovery efforts in Europe, the Berlin blockade and airlift, etc…

The real disappointment is that radio is pulling in similar low numbers. Too bad, because there is actually a variety of stuff on there, doesn’t cost money, and is ideal for today’s world of multi-taskers. Though could be skewed as this is polling “primary source.” Could likely be that it’s nobody’s primary source and everybody’s secondary source.

Gingotts on July 8, 2013 at 3:33 PM

I don’t think that their audience is 2% of Democrats. That would be too many people.

cajunpatriot on July 8, 2013 at 3:59 PM

My mom and stepdad get the Wealth Channel, and they are nuts about the admittedly very well-written travel and historical programming. The guy who runs the channel is talking about starting One America News as another conservative news channel. Anybody have opinions on this?

Sekhmet on July 8, 2013 at 3:29 PM

Bring it on. Fox News desperately needs competition from the right. The way the market looks now, Fox News can make a comfortable living being one millimeter to the right of CNN. It makes them lazy.

slickwillie2001 on July 8, 2013 at 4:13 PM

Is this the network that is using that catching new slogan, “Downward” ?

Bmore on July 8, 2013 at 4:17 PM

My distaste for polls is growing exponentially.

Their proliferation as a tool to frame public sentiment makes them useful targets for manipulation; a subtle form of astroturfing if you will. And with the explosion of new media they’re being used continually to express every aspect of American life without any standards to ensure quality.

Most of you know Mark Twain’s quip about 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damn Lies and Statistics. Polls are statistics and can be used to prove ANYTHING so long as the questions are framed the right way.

And just as in the subatomic realm you can’t measure things without affecting the outcome, you equally can’t force people to be honest when they feel that their responses are under public scrutiny. It’s a human characteristic that serves as a huge benefit for government (i.e., “humanitarian”) interests.

And on top of all of this, You can’t reverse-engineer good public policy through polling the masses. Individual liberty is on the decline because its superiority only becomes apparent when you accept human behavior for what it is; not what it ideally should be. Humans, however, rarely own up to their true nature, especially when the spotlight is on them.

hisfrogness on July 8, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Just two percent of Democrats name MSNBC as their main news source

Most are probably just too embarrassed to admit it.

zoyclem on July 8, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Its odd to throw in 2 different media’s – TV and newspaper together.

Odie1941 on July 8, 2013 at 4:27 PM

FOX is okay but I want to see a splinter group ….FOX needs a competitor!

Sherman1864 on July 8, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Because most Democrats are too busy watching “Honey Boo-Boo” to watch the news. Democrats ARE “low-information” voters for a reason.

mitchellvii on July 8, 2013 at 4:48 PM

They didn’t have Comedy Central on the list. I guarantee that is where Dems get their news. All their hard news comes from John Stewart and Colbert.

The Notorious G.O.P on July 8, 2013 at 5:10 PM

I think there’s some segment of conservatives that have been so alienated by mass media bias that they feel they have no choice but to turn to Fox.

You … think?

For some of those people, I think preferring Fox is less about Fox itself than about casting a “none of the above” vote against the rest of the media, which brings in lots of extra viewers.

Yeah, put me here. Fox News sucks, but it is the only choice for anything resembling balance. Every other news outlet sucks much worse, with a flaming liberal bias thrown in. Needless to say, if the interwebs are included, I am my own news source. I can read bias from most angles, including the right.

There’s no equivalent feeling of comprehensive alienation on the left, even though they complain about the media endlessly too.

Irrefutable proof that liberalism is a mental disorder.

Jaibones on July 8, 2013 at 5:45 PM

They didn’t have Comedy Central on the list. I guarantee that is where Dems get their news. All their hard news comes from John Stewart and Colbert.

The Notorious G.O.P on July 8, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Bing. Thinking is hard. Reading is harder and includes thinking. Liberals have the collective intelligence and integrity of your average high school sophomore.

Jaibones on July 8, 2013 at 5:46 PM

FOX is okay but I want to see a splinter group ….FOX needs a competitor!

Sherman1864 on July 8, 2013 at 4:38 PM

That would be the interwebs.

Jaibones on July 8, 2013 at 5:47 PM

They should do a poll to see how many Dems think Chris Hayes is a Hermaphrodite.

ToddPA on July 8, 2013 at 2:50 PM

“Chris”. There it is.

Jaibones on July 8, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Is there some reason CBS isn’t even on the list???

TXUS on July 8, 2013 at 6:29 PM

All those numbers seem low. For instance the D column adds up to 22%, the R 26%. Is it 2% of Democrats polled that use MSNBC as their main news source or 2% of people polled are Democrats that use MSNBC as their main news source? It’s pathetic either way.

talkingpoints on July 8, 2013 at 6:55 PM