Dem memo: We can pass the Gang of Eight bill in the House — if Boehner will bring it to the floor

posted at 6:01 pm on July 8, 2013 by Allahpundit

Exemplary trolling from pro-amnesty forces via Greg Sargent. Although, is it really trolling if it’s true? I don’t doubt for a second that if Boehner allowed an up-or-down vote on the Senate bill, there’d be 20-30 Republicans willing to go all-in on amnesty with the entire Democratic caucus. The one and only thing stopping this from passing is John Boehner’s solemn promise that he won’t allow a vote on anything that doesn’t already have the support of a majority of the GOP majority.

You trust an old Hill hand like him to stand firm on that promise with the entire GOP establishment, virtually to a man, bleating for the party to pass immigration reform as soon as possible, don’t you?

If there is a vote on comprehensive immigration reform with a path to citizenship in the House, it will pass with a bipartisan majority. If all but a handful of the House Democrats vote yes, and at least 20 Republicans from the list below come along, reform can easily clear the 218 necessary to pass the lower chamber. Looking at the list of 99 House Republicans below, it’s clear that capturing those 20 or so Republican votes is well within reach. Our target list includes several different groups of Republicans, such as:

* Republicans with growing numbers of Latino and Asian constituents. While redistrictring has temporarily insulated many House Republicans from the “demographic cliff” their party faces if it caters only to white voters, at least 38 Republican members of Congress represent heavily Latino districts — and approximately 25 GOP memberes are in diverse swing districts where the growing Latino, Asian, and immigrant vote is crucial. These include California Republicans Jeff Denham, David Valadao, Gary Miller, Buck McKeon and Devin Nunes; Colorado Republican Mike Coffman; Florida Republicans Mario Diaz-Balart and Illeana Ros-Lehtinen (both of whom are longtime supporters of immigration reform); New York Republicans Peter King and Michael Grimm; and Nevada Republican Joe Heck…

* Republicans who understand the need for the Party to tackle immigration reform for its own future. Several leading figures in the House GOP have come out in favor of immigration reform since the election, understanding that, as a Republican National Committee report put it this spring, “among the steps Republicans take in the Hispanic community and beyond we must embrace and champion comprehensive immigration reform. If we do not, our Party’s appeal will continue to shrink to its core constituencies only.” This group includes Representative Paul Ryan (R-WI), who told reporters last month that he believes the House can pass immigration reform with a path to citizenship; NRCC chairman Greg Walden (R-OR), who told USA Today last month that he believes the undocumented should have access to a path to citizenship; and rising star Raul Labrador (R-ID), who has remained committed to immigration reform even after leaving the bipartisan House “Gang of 8.”

The only thing standing between an amnesty bill landing on Obama’s desk, in other words, is Boehner’s resoluteness. And the only reason Boehner has to be resolute (he’s surely not irretrievably opposed to the Gang bill on principle, and we know he’s willing to violate the Hastert Rule on occasion) is if he still wants to be Speaker. If he passes immigration with 20 or so GOP votes, the caucus might remove him. But maybe he’s okay with that. As Eugene Robinson asked last week, why would he want a job this thankless anyway? He could pass amnesty, resign, and then enjoy sweet kisses forever from an adoring Democratic media for having helped the party pushed through one of its longtime policy dreams. (In between kisses, they’ll remind the public that Republicans are Latino-hating racists for not passing a bill that’s even more generous to illegals than the Gang’s bill.) Or maybe they wouldn’t remove him at all. Boehner’s got Paul Ryan in his corner to make the case for reform to the rest of the caucus and to the public. If Boehner violates the Hastert Rule to pass the Gang’s bill and Ryan (and Cantor, McCarthy, and the rest of leadership) vote yes, does that defuse the caucus’s efforts to oust Boehner?

Also, via Mickey Kaus, if Boehner’s ruled out a floor vote on the Gang bill, what does this tidbit from Andrea Mitchell mean?

GREGORY: Right. Fire is all around them, no real second-term agenda when they have to deal with all these problems.

MS. MITCHELL: And immigration was going to be the one thing that they could have pointed to. And I think that conversation with John Boehner and the president, the president doesn’t have a whole well of trust in Boehner saying, you know, hang with me, I can get this done by the end of the summer. Boehner still doesn’t have the support and you heard what– what Congressman Labrador has been saying, they don’t have a Marco Rubio on the House side who can try to work around the edges…

What kind of bill does Boehner think he’s going to pass that Obama will be pleased with? Gulp.

Update: Double gulp.


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So it`s gonna pass.

ThePrez on July 8, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Sure no problem.

Just suspend all rules, arrest 1/2 the house republicans, have a bunch of satanists interrupt singing “hail satan” and have moochelle give an inspirational talk about her love for white people.

Probably a couple of thousand guns sold to drug runners wouldn’t hurt either.

With this regime probably more likely than not.

acyl72 on July 8, 2013 at 6:06 PM

The only thing standing between an amnesty bill landing on Obama’s desk, in other words, is Boehner’s resoluteness. And the only reason Boehner has to be resolute (he’s surely not irretrievably opposed to the Gang bill on principle, and we know he’s willing to violate the Hastert Rule on occasion) is if he still wants to be Speaker. If he passes immigration with 20 or so GOP votes, the caucus might remove him.

The caucus? Try the voters. If he violates the Hastert Rule in order to let amnesty get passed, he’ll kill the Republican Party way before all those new Latino voters get around to it. Why in God’s name would any conservative ever vote for the GOP or donate their hard-earned money again when Boehner acts as a rubber stamp for Obama in a way even Pelosi never did(even she didn’t try to pass amnesty as House Speaker).

Doughboy on July 8, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Suicide for the GOP and the USA. God help us.

Charlemagne on July 8, 2013 at 6:07 PM

Doughboy on July 8, 2013 at 6:06 PM

Fools all of them. They will lose far more of the base then they will ever gain from Hispanics. They will literally kill the GOP if they pass anything like this.

Charlemagne on July 8, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Is immigration really our most pressing issue? I think most of the public would say it is not.

Cindy Munford on July 8, 2013 at 6:09 PM

I watched the Walking Dead all weekend. The financial apocalypse assured to us by MessiahCare and Immigration “reform” will bring similar circumstances. Explains why Homeland has been buying all of that hollow-point ammo.

oldroy on July 8, 2013 at 6:09 PM

he’s going to cave. Treasonous loser

Raquel Pinkbullet on July 8, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Take this out of the media’s purview. Put it to a non-binding vote to the GOP caucus and let them run on it. We have all the time in the world to destroy our party on our terms. Let’s see where the members stand once and for all.

DanMan on July 8, 2013 at 6:13 PM

The only thing standing between an amnesty bill landing on Obama’s desk, in other words, is Boehner’s resoluteness.

We’re doomed.

rbj on July 8, 2013 at 6:13 PM

You yutzes that are whining and complaining about this should just clam up and go along with the program. Open the borders wide. Let everyone in. Free medical care for everyone. Free food, water, and shelter. Free “education”.

Just raise taxes to 100% and it can be done.

oldroy on July 8, 2013 at 6:14 PM

Boehner’s resoluteness

??

The only thing Boehner’s demonstrated to date is a lack of resoluteness.

socalcon on July 8, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Doughboy on July 8, 2013 at 6:06 PM

The GOP is not conservative. They are stupid, allowing the socialists to set the agenda and caving in to them all the time.

Charlemagne on July 8, 2013 at 6:07 PM

It will be. Bonehead needs to read the damned bill. adding millions of new slave laborers to our depressed economy will crush the middle class that’s already struggling.

http://www.zerohedge.com/contributed/2013-07-08/one-chart-proves-were-not-recovery

The only thing wrong with our system is the regime in power refuses to enforce the law.

dogsoldier on July 8, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Fools all of them. They will lose far more of the base then they will ever gain from Hispanics. They will literally kill the GOP if they pass anything like this.

Charlemagne on July 8, 2013 at 6:09 PM

If he violates the Hastert Rule though, it’ll get ugly. Say what you will about the horrendous job done by Reid and Pelosi, but at least they knew where to draw the line on legislation that would destroy their party. Reid refused to bring up the crap-and-betrayed bill after it narrowly passed in the House almost entirely on a party line vote. And neither of them dared touch card check or amnesty. Yes, they did pass Obamacare, but that took a lot of bribing and arm-twisting and that was always about the long-term transformation of the country in a way that favored the Democrat Party. Even the amnesty bill’s staunchest advocates in the Senate like McCain acknowledge it will do nothing for the GOP electorally.

Doughboy on July 8, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Go ahead, pass it. Let it burn. The Republican party is a joke. It’s nearly impossible to save, if at all. Half the country and soon to be more love this type of crap and have no idea what it actually means or what its practical effects are. There is no arguing with these fools using logic. The only thing that will fix this is letting them have their way on everything. It’ll all fall apart and most people realize, when things are garbage, just how terrible their views, stances, and policies are.

Let it burn. It’s the only way to win the argument at this point.

dgarone on July 8, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Why bother to pass any law ever again. If the SCOAMF says it isn’t a law then it don’t matter.

stephana on July 8, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Is immigration really our most pressing issue? I think most of the public would say it is not.

my thoughts exactly, with all of the crap going on let’s focus on cleaning up that mess these messes and quit letting the liberals in the demedia run the agenda…what office does Greg Sargeant hold again?

DanMan on July 8, 2013 at 6:16 PM

The time approaches to withdraw all support.

Bmore on July 8, 2013 at 6:16 PM

If Boehner had any leadership skills, he’d be able to bring up that bill, vote it down, and send it back to the Senate and get the pork out of it. Boehner just doesn’t have the necessary skills to be the Speaker of the House. Of course, there hasn’t been a good leader since Gingrich was bounced, but that’s just the way it is.

bflat879 on July 8, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Go away for a news-blacked out long weekend (bliss!) and come back to this?

We are so hosed…

Bruno Strozek on July 8, 2013 at 6:18 PM

The GOP is not conservative. They are stupid, allowing the socialists to set the agenda and caving in to them all the time.

dogsoldier on July 8, 2013 at 6:15 PM

But their base is. I’d love just once to have any Republican politician in favor of amnesty to be asked how they plan to win future elections if their voters stay home.

Doughboy on July 8, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Expect him to fold and betray the Constitution and the ‘laws’ of the land. He won’t be punished by the GOP or the voters. He will retain the speakership and the passage of more horrible laws will continue unabated.

xmanvietnam on July 8, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Cue Bing Crosby…

“Obama’s dreaming… of a blue… Texas.”

beatcanvas on July 8, 2013 at 6:19 PM

ACK!

gophergirl on July 8, 2013 at 6:19 PM

he’s going to cave. Treasonous loser

Raquel Pinkbullet on July 8, 2013 at 6:10 PM

I’ll bet you that he doesn’t.

Anti-Control on July 8, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Hmmm…Looks like it is a good day to call our Congressional Representatives AGAIN to find out when they will be holding their next Town Hall Meeting.

The August Recess for the House of Representatives is Saturday August 3 to Monday September 9th.

Every single member of the House of Representatives is up for re-election in 2014, with the Primary Election season beginning in March.

While our Representatives are pondering how they will vote on issues like allowing ILLEGAL aliens to remain in our country, we have to keep reminding our Reps that they are supposed to represent us!

wren on July 8, 2013 at 6:21 PM

I pity the fools all over the world that look to us as the place they should be. When they get here and find out there is no work, no place to stay, no food, no medical care beyond first aid at the Emergency line, well they’ll need to know who was responsible.

Just a tip for future starving immigrants. The people you will be looking for will be staying in a tunnel at The Greenbriar.

oldroy on July 8, 2013 at 6:21 PM

And the only reason Boehner has to be resolute … is if he still wants to be Speaker.

And still wants to be a member of Congress at all. How’s amnesty polling in suburban Cincinnati. I’ll guess very poorly.

forest on July 8, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Will the GOP up and die, already? Watching it flail and writhe as it attempts to finish itself off is disgusting and dangerous.

All supporters of any treasonous aid and comfort to invading illegals need to be illegals, themselves, somewhere. I don’t care where but they love the illegals they should each become one and live the life of their real constituents.

Friggin dirtball scumbag traitors.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 8, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Three possible paths to the same thing.

1) He will bring up the Senate bill.
2) He and 40 or so of his minions will vote with Pelosi and against the Republican Caucus, just like he has on every important bill since January 1.

OR

A) the House will pass a piecemeal bill that will be acceptable on a part of the immigration problem.
B) Boehner will appoint collaborationists to the Conference Committee.
C) Like with Obamacare, the Senate will gut the bill, replace it with the Gang of 8 bill verbatim and the Conference will pass that.
d) See #2 above.

OR

Alpha) the House will pass some, any, fiscal bill.
Bravo) See “B)” above.
Charlie) See “C)” above.
Delta) See #2 above.
Echo) The Supreme Court will rule that it is a tax.

The “same thing” that is the end goal is the dissolution of the Republican Party. He may remain technically Speaker till January 2015, assuming we do have elections; but it will only be as Obama’s open puppet.

We already expect the worst from the declared enemies of our country of the Left. We have learned from bitter experience to expect betrayal from the Republicans.

Subotai Bahadur on July 8, 2013 at 6:23 PM

But their base is. I’d love just once to have any Republican politician in favor of amnesty to be asked how they plan to win future elections if their voters stay home.

Doughboy on July 8, 2013 at 6:18 PM

For now, we conservatives are with them, but they have urinated on us for the last time. They will follow the Whigs at the rate they are going.

dogsoldier on July 8, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Surprise, surprise. Not really though, as this crap is now as predictable as the sun rising in the east. The country is finished and no election is going to change that.

bgibbs1000 on July 8, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Expect him to fold and betray the Constitution and the ‘laws’ of the land. He won’t be punished by the GOP or the voters. He will retain the speakership and the passage of more horrible laws will continue unabated.

xmanvietnam on July 8, 2013 at 6:18 PM

There are no more laws when this goes through. When you open these floodgates, you can’t close them ever again. All political arguments are over. Every thing you hope for and argue for as a conservative or even a moderate is over.

Social issues? Over.

Spending issues? Over.

Constitutional limited government? Over.

This issue wraps up all of the other issues.

oldroy on July 8, 2013 at 6:26 PM

For now, we conservatives are with them,

dogsoldier on July 8, 2013 at 6:25 PM

Not me. My last GOP vote was in 2012. That was it. The 2012 election was bad enough but when those idiots in the House re-elected that despicable POS to be Weeper … finito.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 8, 2013 at 6:26 PM

The GOP nominee in both of the last two elections have drawn poorly from conservatives in critical districts. Ohio was lost in both instances because Ohio river counties experienced that problem big time.

MTF on July 8, 2013 at 6:27 PM

Somewhat misleading tweet from Pergram. Here’s the entire text of what Boehner is saying from Roll Call.

Speaker John A. Boehner told reporters Monday that border security will come before legalization.

“The American people expect that we’ll have strong border security in place before we begin the process of legalizing and fixing our legal immigration system,” the Ohio Republican said.

Conservatives have complained that the Senate’s immigration bill would effectively legalize the 11 million people estimated to be in the United States illegally before new border security measures are implemented.

Asked what specifically Boehner meant when he said “legalizing and fixing our immigration system,” Boehner’s spokesman, Michael Steel, said Boehner was “just stressing the importance of securing the border and getting the interior enforcement system working first.”

Boehner also said the House will act, and noted he will talk with the Republican Conference to chart a path forward.

“We’re going to have a conversation with our members Wednesday on how we would move ahead. We have a broken immigration system. We have undocumented workers here in record numbers. We just can’t turn a blind eye to this problem and think it’s going to go away. It is time for Congress to act. But I believe the House has its job to do, and we will do our job.

If the intent of Pergram was to rile up the conservative base, he succeeded.

phoenixrisen on July 8, 2013 at 6:27 PM

If Boehner had any leadership skills, he’d be able to bring up that bill, vote it down, and send it back to the Senate and get the pork out of it. Boehner just doesn’t have the necessary skills to be the Speaker of the House. Of course, there hasn’t been a good leader since Gingrich was bounced, but that’s just the way it is.

bflat879 on July 8, 2013 at 6:17 PM

It’s not just the pork. We need another 15 million workers now as much as Florida needs new sinkholes.

Nor do we need hundreds of thousands of new guest workers.

dogsoldier on July 8, 2013 at 6:29 PM

Speaker John A. Boehner told reporters Monday that border security will come before legalization.

“before”?

“Legalization” of illegals (which is a laughable phrase, to begin with – is TREASON. Before, after, during … it is always treason.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 8, 2013 at 6:29 PM

If Dems are so sure they can pass it, why don’t the try a discharge petition?

schmitty on July 8, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Not me. My last GOP vote was in 2012. That was it. The 2012 election was bad enough but when those idiots in the House re-elected that despicable POS to be Weeper … finito.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 8, 2013 at 6:26 PM

And force feeding us Romney did not go over well either.

The GOP elites need to get it through their heads: Their day is OVER.

dogsoldier on July 8, 2013 at 6:31 PM

I have been a proud Republican all my life, but will leave the Party if they pass this abortion they call immigration reform. Not only will I leave, but I will join forces with like-minded people who oppose both parties that secretly serve, not the people who elected them, but the super rich business interests that want cheap foreign labor at the expense of american citizens.

Oracleforhire on July 8, 2013 at 6:31 PM

If Boehner can hold out until the August recess, then this amnesty travesty will not pass. The Congress traitors will go home to their constituents and get an ear full. They all know that, so they want to pressure Boehner to get this on the floor for a vote before that time. I pray Boehner can have a spine until August. God help us.

conservative pilgrim on July 8, 2013 at 6:32 PM

I’m sure Harry Reid would bring up any bill sent over from the Republican House that he thought might pass with most of the Republicans and a few democratics, right?

slickwillie2001 on July 8, 2013 at 6:32 PM

And the only reason Boehner has to be resolute … is if he still wants to be Speaker.

And still wants to be a member of Congress at all. How’s amnesty polling in suburban Cincinnati. I’ll guess very poorly.

forest on July 8, 2013 at 6:23 PM

Do the good people of Cincinnati have a candidate ready to run against John Boehner in the Republican 2014 Primary?

This would be a good time to remind John Boehner that those people who voted to have him represent them in Congress, can just as easily vote him out of office in 2014.

wren on July 8, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Poll: 60 Percent of Hispanics Support ‘Border-Security First’ Approach to Immigration Reform

Resist We Much on July 8, 2013 at 6:30 PM

First? Destroying the Rule of Law to implement “legalization” is totally and unequivocally unacceptable. Anyone who is in favor of it is a traitor and has no business in a nation-state, since they obviously abhor the very notion of the nation-state.

These idiots who think they are pulling a fast one with this laughable “border security FIRST – and then the destruction of law with “legalization” – aren’t fooling anyone. Border security has almost nothing to do with controlling who is present on this nation’s soil. INTERIOR ENFORCEMENT is the only thing that really counts and all of these lying, scumbag “border security FIRST” idiots are totally against interior enforcement of any kind.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 8, 2013 at 6:35 PM

C’mon Boehner, do not cave.

Fallon on July 8, 2013 at 6:35 PM

Speaker John A. Boehner told reporters Monday that border security will come before legalization.

I have a letter from Kelly Ayotte telling us the current Gang of 6 Bill and the HorseShyte-KakaMemie amendment secure the border first.

IT DOESN’T. I read these documents. She lied. If that is what Bonehead is talking about, then he is lying.

dogsoldier on July 8, 2013 at 6:35 PM

In the end, will the House leadership say no to their constituents, or to the power brokers who are enthusiastically pushing Amnesty such as:

Grover Norquist,
Koch brothers,
U.S. Chamber of Commerce
Fox News commentariat?

Ladysmith CulchaVulcha on July 8, 2013 at 6:36 PM

I’ll bet you that he doesn’t.

Anti-Control on July 8, 2013 at 6:19 PM

When was the last time the GOP didn’t cave? Hmmm. You must not be familiar with the GOP..

Raquel Pinkbullet on July 8, 2013 at 6:37 PM

The one and only thing stopping this from passing is John Boehner’s solemn promise

I respectfully disagree and contend that the voters are what stand in the way from this passing. If somehow Boehner will wait until the August recess, then it doesn’t pass. They all know that.

What kind of bill does Boehner think he’s going to pass that Obama will be pleased with? Gulp.

Even if it’s a carbon copy of Obama’s plan, nothing a Republican ever does will appease Obama and his gang. Nothing. Never. Ever. They always need an enemy to target, and that enemy will always be a Republican.

conservative pilgrim on July 8, 2013 at 6:37 PM

If Boehner can hold out until the August recess, then this amnesty travesty will not pass. The Congress traitors will go home to their constituents and get an ear full. They all know that, so they want to pressure Boehner to get this on the floor for a vote before that time. I pray Boehner can have a spine until August. God help us.

conservative pilgrim on July 8, 2013 at 6:32 PM

That’s why the Dems want Boehner to bring the Senate bill to the floor for a vote. It is the only chance that they get their immigration baby. He isn’t going to bring that bill to the floor or its the end of him as Speaker since he has already said he won’t bring an immigration bill to the floor unless it has a majority among the House GOP caucus.

phoenixrisen on July 8, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Let’s face it, Boehner, Cantor, McCarthy and Ryan have as much contempt for us as liberals do and they are going to do what it takes to pass an amnesty bill. They are just waiting for the right time and method to do it.

Mark1971 on July 8, 2013 at 6:38 PM

The GOP is already dead. Have been since Obama got re-elected. They’re done. Hillary next.

mrscullen on July 8, 2013 at 6:39 PM

We have a broken immigration system. We have undocumented workers here in record numbers. We just can’t turn a blind eye to this problem and think it’s going to go away. It is time for Congress to act.

It is time for Congress to ENFORCE our current laws against ILLEGAL immigration.

wren on July 8, 2013 at 6:39 PM

I’ll bet you that he doesn’t.

Anti-Control on July 8, 2013 at 6:19 PM

Strange, but I don’t think so either.

KCB on July 8, 2013 at 6:39 PM

but the super rich business interests that want cheap foreign labor at the expense of american citizens.

Oracleforhire on July 8, 2013 at 6:31 PM

Make no mistake. This is the central issue. Our wages rose to reasonable levels back in the late 90′s and they have done everything they could to drive them down since.

Look at what groups get pay increases every year.

dogsoldier on July 8, 2013 at 6:41 PM

Was our Congress and President(s) visited by some alien (outer-space kind) being who told them they must pass this or there would be inter-galactic war?

oldroy on July 8, 2013 at 6:43 PM

Is there anything other than “Hispanics don’t want amnesty” that you need to know in order to vote no on this bill?

I would like to see what Paul Ryan has to say about “Hispanics don’t want amnesty”.

And if you’re not entertaining this POS law with the laughable notion that this will engender the GOP to Hispanics, then why on earth are we even discussing this?

I’ll bet you I could convince the GOP to vote yes on a law that gives immunity to drug cartels.

hisfrogness on July 8, 2013 at 6:43 PM

When was the last time the GOP didn’t cave? Hmmm. You must not be familiar with the GOP..

Raquel Pinkbullet on July 8, 2013 at 6:37 PM

What are you willing to bet me – a month away from HA for the loser?

You can make a counter offer if you want! :)

Strange, but I don’t think so either.

KCB on July 8, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Why do you say, “strange”?

My thinking is that Boehner is no genius, nor is he a great leader, but I do not believe he’s suicidal – he understands what will happen to the GOP if he screws this one up…

Anti-Control on July 8, 2013 at 6:47 PM

Make no mistake. This is the central issue. Our wages rose to reasonable levels back in the late 90′s and they have done everything they could to drive them down since.

Look at what groups get pay increases every year.

dogsoldier on July 8, 2013 at 6:41 PM

I don’t think this is it. In the old sci-fi (we thought it was fiction) movie The Thing, many of our government had their bodies taken over by brain sucking parasites. It’s got to be something along those lines. Or Martians. AckAck.

What difference at this point, does it make… to resist. Just open the borders to anyone and everyone. Let starvation begin. When the elite class in Washington have to skip the $100 wine at dinner because there is no wine, they’ll get the message. It will be far too late, but they’ll understand then.

oldroy on July 8, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Why do you say, “strange”?

My thinking is that Boehner is no genius, nor is he a great leader, but I do not believe he’s suicidal – he understands what will happen to the GOP if he screws this one up…

Anti-Control on July 8, 2013 at 6:47 PM

I guess because I’m used to these ass clowns letting us down, but I agree with your logic. Can’t see him doing this.

KCB on July 8, 2013 at 6:50 PM

I just don’t see Boehner allowing the Senate bill to the floor for a vote. Sure, there are some big business donors that are putting on the heat but the GOP also knows that if they let this go through against the will of their conservative base, they lose the House next year and the Democrats retain a solid majority in the Senate. It will be a replay of November 2006. No matter how much heat the business lobby brings or throws money at congressmen, the GOP isn’t giving up the power of the purse in the House. That is numero uno to both political parties above all else.

phoenixrisen on July 8, 2013 at 6:51 PM

if this bill passes you will be witnessing the beginning of the end of the republican, and democratic parties, and possibly the end of the US

RonK on July 8, 2013 at 6:56 PM

Is the Asteroid Wolf-Beiderman bearing down on us or something? What benefit does this bring to Americans of any political strip?

WTF!WTF!WTF!WTF!WTF!WTF!WTF!WTF!WTF!WTF!WTF!WTF!

WTF!WTF!WTF!WTF!WTF!WTF!WTF!WTF!WTF!WTF!WTF!WTF!

?? What the hell has gotten into these people? Obamacare is a joke and a travesty, and and unconstitutional Nation breaker. So let’s assure the financial and political destruction of the most important economy in the world?

oldroy on July 8, 2013 at 7:01 PM

Though the establishment scoffs at the notion, the Republican party will be dead if he brings it to a vote or allows it to go to committee. And yes, I will gladly sit for the 2014, 2016 elections if necessary to insure that these traitors pay the ultimate political price. The beltway GOP thinks we’re bluffing. I beg of you, PLEASE call our bluff.

AmeriCuda on July 8, 2013 at 7:05 PM

Tell your congressman (or woman), if Boehner get this bill through the house, you’ll hold your congressman personally repsonsible because they voted for Boehner for leadership.

LilyBart on July 8, 2013 at 7:06 PM

All the dims want is for some bill any bill to pass the house so they can get it to conference committee. there they only have to buy off one congressman to adopt the senate version.

Labamigo on July 8, 2013 at 7:07 PM

This must be what the Roman Empire looked like by the time the Vandals started attacking.

SouthernGent on July 8, 2013 at 7:10 PM

These people have got to know by know that Marco Rubio, of Cuban descent, gained 1% in the polls. So what gives?

Eight dollar an hour workers don’t buy much in the way of middle class consumer items. Out of work middle-class disaffected Democrat voters don’t either.

What the hell is going on?

oldroy on July 8, 2013 at 7:13 PM

I fully expect to be stabbed in the back.

Gauze and rubbing alcohol are ready.

Ca97 on July 8, 2013 at 7:15 PM

This must be what the Roman Empire looked like by the time the Vandals started attacking.

SouthernGent on July 8, 2013 at 7:10 PM

At least LA, Detroit, Georgetown-DC, Baltimore, New Orleans and Chicago – apologies to leftist carp-holes I’ve left out. I wonder if the Vandals left any ancient graffiti? Like “Eff you Romans – you don’t have Universal Health Care – Free Blood Sucking Leaches for All”. Or – “Eff you Romans – you set up Hadrian’s wall and left those poor people without food.”

oldroy on July 8, 2013 at 7:21 PM

I’ll learn Chinese, back out of the economy, and keep my head down.

You libs are going to learn the hard way that trying to squeeze blood from a stone just isn’t possible.

Bishop on July 8, 2013 at 7:21 PM

Gauze and rubbing alcohol are ready.

Ca97 on July 8, 2013 at 7:15 PM

Just get vodka. You can use it for the same first aid applications. You can use it for infused preserved flavorings. You can trade it when needed. Or you can drink it because none of this makes one damn bit of sense even to the “hispanic” community.

oldroy on July 8, 2013 at 7:23 PM

I’ll learn Chinese, back out of the economy, and keep my head down.

You libs are going to learn the hard way that trying to squeeze blood from a stone just isn’t possible.

Bishop on July 8, 2013 at 7:21 PM

Better to buy Rosetta Stone while there is a functioning economy…

oldroy on July 8, 2013 at 7:26 PM

And why is deportation not an option? Is there not one national figure (I’m looking at you, Cruz,) willing to champion a sane deportation program? Call it a five year plan with the clock set ticking on Day One. Allow those illegals who register within the first twenty-four months to stay and work legally up to the full five years, then assist them with travel back to their home country. Those who register by the thirty-six month window may stay through year four, and will also be eligible for travel assistance home. Anyone not registered by year three becomes an immediate persona non-grata, eligible for immediate deportation upon capture.

Why is citizenship considered the only option? Would you, I, and nearly the entire conservative base not support such a program, not to mention the politician gutsy enough to champion it?

CaptFlood on July 8, 2013 at 7:27 PM

Time for a new political party… if Lincoln could create the GOP out of the detrius of the Whig party (while the Whigs were still around) then we can do the same.

Boehner and most of the GOP don’t want to lead, follow OR get out of the way…

It’s time they do.

Skywise on July 8, 2013 at 7:45 PM

What we need right now is the biggest members of the right-o-sphere to come together and officially serve notice they will lead the effort to vote against the Republicans at every level if this bill passes.

I’m looking at you Allahpundit.

For myself I didn’t vote for Romney since I am done voting for liberals. And if this passes all of the time and money I used to give to Republicans will be going to non-Republican conservatives.

If we as a country are going to die – and make no mistake Amnesty is national suicide – let us at least fight for once.

18-1 on July 8, 2013 at 7:47 PM

When is Boehner going to bring charges against Obama for not only violating but outright ignoring CONGRESSIONAL LAW!

If neither Boehner nor the Senate take action against this (not that I expect Reid would) the legislative body is nothing more than puppets and have no more power than Obama’s executive orders!

Skywise on July 8, 2013 at 7:47 PM

Eight dollar an hour workers don’t buy much in the way of middle class consumer items. Out of work middle-class disaffected Democrat voters don’t either.

What the hell is going on?

As Barry said, he is going to fundamentally change us.

And this new feudalism will be much better then the old feudalism since now the nobles will be enlightened liberals.

18-1 on July 8, 2013 at 7:48 PM

GOP won’t hold the House if amnesty goes through. Dems will have complete control for the forseeable future.

WisCon on July 8, 2013 at 8:08 PM

Freedom Party anyone?

LtBarnwell02 on July 8, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Imagine for a moment if the tables were turned… if the Presidency and Senate were controlled by Republicans, and Nancy Pelosi were the Speaker of the House…

If a bill to completely repeal Obamacare had passed the Senate, and enough Democrats in the House agreed with the Republican minority, creating an overall majority in the House that would vote to completely repeal Obamacare…

WHAT WOULD PELOSI DO?!?

If you think for even a second that Pelosi would allow that bill to come to the floor for a vote, you’re out of your mind.

ITguy on July 8, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Does the GOP have to act as if the Latinos own the Congress already? I don’t believe it yet. But that’s the insidious problem with democracy, politicians sell out to the minority block votes while the dumb majority split their votes so nobody is afraid of them. However, the black block vote should be against this so called immigration “reform”, but I suspect they are low info voters.

Chessplayer on July 8, 2013 at 8:51 PM

Freedom Party anyone?

LtBarnwell02 on July 8, 2013 at 8:44 PM

Almost there…

If it happens, I would suggest that the party slogan be:

Restoring Freedom

ITguy on July 8, 2013 at 8:53 PM

He had better not. If he does then i will move heaven and earth to march on washington with pitchforks. If this doesnt bring the bases blood up to boiling then this country deserves the coming collapse. Its in the declaration folks. Not only do we have the right to overthrow such government but we must. We ill have nothing to lose if boehner passes this

neyney on July 8, 2013 at 8:56 PM

I know my boy Boehner won’t let us down.All he has to do is get the snap from center and take a knee to run out the clock.

Boehner has the ball, but incredibly, instead of taking a knee he’s trying an end run———FUMMBBBLLLEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

MaiDee on July 8, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Boehner’s out anyway! He knows Obama’s going to release everything the NSA has on him before the next election! At least, I don’t think Boehner is stupid enough, to believe otherwise. So, he’s going to push the RINO Suicide pact/Amnesty Bill, NO MATTER WHAT!

#NOrinos2014 #CrushRove

http://www.paratisiusa.blodspot.com

God Bless America!

paratisi on July 8, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Reminds me of Judas and thirty pieces of silver.

trs on July 8, 2013 at 10:02 PM

If the Senate immigration bill or anything like it passes through the house with Nancy Pelosi riding shotgun, then the Republican Party will be useless party of establishment special interests and therefore dead to me.

Any Republicans trolls out there monitoring comments? Got it? Your base walks away if Boehner allows this. It will be third party time as soon as the Republican Party declares itself utterly useless in this manner.

Thank you Marco Rubio (already dead to me) for placing the party at risk. He’s a lying, Obama-esque sack of animal waste who needs to be sent back to Tallahassee or retired altogether.

And can we stop thanking John McCain for his service? Enough already. His deficit pile has grown large.

exdeadhead on July 8, 2013 at 10:49 PM

What I wouldn’t give to have two ideologues like Pelosi and Reid running the Republican party instead of Mumbles & Bumbles.

AmeriCuda on July 9, 2013 at 12:50 AM

Obama unilaterally decides which parts of DOMA, Obamacare, and any other law he will or won’t enforce, but he’ll totally clamp down on the border if we pass Rubio/Schumer.

Honest!

If the GOP wants to win elections, they had better kill this bill and stop listening to people like Pelosi and Schumer telling them they need to pass it…because they love the GOP so much, don’t you know.

DRayRaven on July 9, 2013 at 6:01 AM

Why is citizenship considered the only option? Would you, I, and nearly the entire conservative base not support such a program, not to mention the politician gutsy enough to champion it?
CaptFlood on July 8, 2013 at 7:27 PM

Doesn’t matter. Because THAT’s not enough to win elections, you and the conservative “base”. The Republican party is in a mortal conundrum. Play to the base and lose elections because there’s not enough of them to win elections alone, or play to everyone or anyone else and lose the conservative “base”, which means STILL not enough to win elections.

Rock and a hard place.

Genuine on July 9, 2013 at 8:21 AM

The only thing standing between an amnesty bill landing on Obama’s desk, in other words, is Boehner’s resoluteness.

Lord, give him strength!

Dexter_Alarius on July 9, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Torches. Pitchforks. Occupy. Time is now.

TEXASLEGAL on July 9, 2013 at 1:12 PM