Super. Obamacare subscribers to be on “honor system”

posted at 11:01 am on July 7, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

We must pass the bill to find out what’s in the bill.

The Obama administration announced Friday that it would significantly scale back the health law’s requirements that new insurance marketplaces verify consumers’ income and health insurance status.

Instead, the federal government will rely more heavily on consumers’ self-reported information until 2015, when it plans to have stronger verification systems in place.

Well, I can’t imagine what could possibly go wrong there. I mean, if you need to be below a particular income and not have access to a particular level of employer provided coverage to qualify for a chance to dip into the taxpayer funded coffers, we don’t need to check things like that, do we? Nobody would be such a scofflaw as to violate the “honor system” in America. Wait… are you really saying this is going to run on the honor system?

It is not unprecedented for the government to use the honor system in situations in which it collects data on millions of individuals, said Timothy S. Jost, a law professor at Washington and Lee University in Lexington, Va., and a consumer advocate. For example, people are expected to report their cash tips to the Internal Revenue Service as income.

“An awful lot of the economy is a cash economy,” he said. “If we had to verify every statement that was made to the IRS, our economy would collapse.”

When you combine this with the delay in the employer mandate, won’t that make it rather hard to enforce anything to do with the implementation of this program? That’s the question that Avik Roy is asking at Forbes.

I, and several others at the time, said “wait a minute.” According to the law, you aren’t eligible for Obamacare’s subsidies if your employer has offered you what the government considers “affordable” coverage. But if employers are no longer going to report whether or not they’ve offered “affordable” coverage, how can the government verify whether or not workers are eligible for subsidies?

Another take on this from The Corner:

Opening the door wide open to fraud could well increase the number of people in the exchanges, but it will also make that number far less meaningful—casting a shadow over whatever is achieved by the enrollment effort set to launch in the fall. It will also, needless to say, increase the cost of the exchange subsidies. The administration is clearly worried enough about enrollment to take that risk and bear that cost. It seems to be operating under the assumption that the way to secure Obamacare’s future is to get as many people as possible into the system and receiving subsidies. Maybe they’re right, and maybe they’re wrong, but they certainly seem increasingly desperate.

That definition of “affordable” (as determined by Uncle Sam) will undoubtedly loom large in the future, as Forbes rightly suggests. Even if your employer provided coverage used to be affordable, we’ve seen story after story about providers jacking up premiums in advance of the major Obamacare roll-out, so what qualifies as “affordable” after all those changes take place? Well, since nobody is going to be checking what you put down on your application for taxpayer subsidized coverage, I suppose you can decide if your current plan costs too much. But that might result in a stampede of people heading for the new exchanges and handing the costs off to the taxpayer. If only somebody had warned them about all this before the bill was passed.

Oh, wait… we did. And as Ed recently pointed out, things like this essentially undermine the entire White House agenda.


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Super. Obamacare subscribers to be on “honor system”

…ha!…what’s that?

KOOLAID2 on July 7, 2013 at 11:04 AM

This administration if insanely incompetent and any rational criticism is useless.

rplat on July 7, 2013 at 11:05 AM

Instead, the federal government will rely more heavily on consumers’ self-reported information until 2015, when it plans to have stronger verification systems in place.

…the IRS!

KOOLAID2 on July 7, 2013 at 11:06 AM

We haven’t looked at the constitutionality of the scoamf deciding which duly passed laws or parts of laws should be enforced. I highly doubt that our founding fathers placed dictator powers into the presidency.

stephana on July 7, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Obamacare and honor are like oil & water.

22044 on July 7, 2013 at 11:08 AM

Only one ObamaPhone per household…..

Electrongod on July 7, 2013 at 11:09 AM

When has anyone in this regime done anything that even remotely approaches “honor?”

rbj on July 7, 2013 at 11:11 AM

This is why regulations are necessary. People who suggest corporate ‘self-regulation’ as an answer are either incredibly naive or dishonest.

bayam on February 2, 2012 at 5:56 PM

HT rogerb

pambi on July 7, 2013 at 11:12 AM

We haven’t looked at the constitutionality of the scoamf deciding which duly passed laws or parts of laws should be enforced. I highly doubt that our founding fathers placed dictator powers into the presidency.

stephana on July 7, 2013 at 11:07 AM

Judge Roberts said “Barry is good to go on this one.”

arnold ziffel on July 7, 2013 at 11:12 AM

Only one ObamaPhone per household…..

Electrongod on July 7, 2013 at 11:09 AM

Durn you, EG. Get outta my head!

If you vote for a living, rather than work for it… Lying should be a piece of cake. What are they gonna do? Take your entitlements away? lol

Fallon on July 7, 2013 at 11:15 AM

So it sets up a system of selective enforcement. Great. I’m pretty sure I know upon whom they intend to enforce it.

Flange on July 7, 2013 at 11:15 AM

What a brilliant redistribution scheme thieving scam!

OldEnglish on July 7, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Instead, the federal government will rely more heavily on consumers’ self-reported information until 2015, when it plans to have stronger verification systems in place.

So, within the next two years, the feds expect to have a system by which it can verify that, say, 320 million Americans have health insurance.

But for almost three decades, the feds have been unable to verify that 10 million or so workers out of, say, 180 million workers are illegal immigrants who should be booted from the country?

WTF?

BuckeyeSam on July 7, 2013 at 11:16 AM

The IRS will only know if you are a Conservative. Liberals will not have to fear “Enforcement”. That would be racist, or something.

famous amos on July 7, 2013 at 11:16 AM

So it sets up a system of selective enforcement. Great. I’m pretty sure I know upon whom they intend to enforce it.

Flange on July 7, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Selective enforcement…by the IRS. What could go wrong?

BuckeyeSam on July 7, 2013 at 11:17 AM

Instead, the federal government will rely more heavily on consumers’ self-reported information until 2015, when it plans to have stronger verification systems in place.

Wait a minute. You mean to tell us that Obama will rely on the honor system of the rich, evil insurance companies that gouge the little guy to make excessive profits?!

Don’t worry, our illustrious mainstream media will be on top of this scandal! You’ll see in 5…4…3…2…

(/lib pothead)

Kingfisher on July 7, 2013 at 11:18 AM

when it plans to have stronger verification systems in place.

Of course. That’s when Obama will add his so-called “line in the sand” to the insurance companies. Look how well that worked for Syria.

Perhaps Obama will take a page from the UN and add four additional exclamation points plus the text, “We really mean it this time. Do it or else we’ll send more warnings!”

Kingfisher on July 7, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Thieves.

Since this Commie was elected we haven’t gone one day without some new bit of BS from this administration.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 7, 2013 at 11:22 AM

Obamacare subscribers to be on “honor system”

TRANSLATION:

“Honor system” translates to:

-”Send lots and lots and LOTS of money to the Democratic party!”
-Support open immigration
-Support abortion
-Support all other Democratic causes

If you do so, Obama will look the other way.

This administration is so f***ing corrupt.

Kingfisher on July 7, 2013 at 11:25 AM

“An awful lot of the economy is a cash economy,” he said. “If we had to verify every statement that was made to the IRS, our economy would collapse.”

What a crock comparison. Apples and oranges. With people on their honor to report their tip money for income tax purposes, what’s the potential revenue loss? And note the limited number of people affected. In contrast, you have a subsidy made generally available to a far larger group of people, with too many people jumping in because other people around them are doing it.

Our government sucks.

BuckeyeSam on July 7, 2013 at 11:26 AM

It is not unprecedented for the government to use the honor system in situations in which it collects data on millions of individuals, said Timothy S. Jost, a law professor at Washington and Lee University in Lexington,

Professor Jost submits his resume to become the first Director of MiniTru.

The government’s idea of an honor system is “we do anything we want, and we won’t tell you”.

Jost = D-

BobMbx on July 7, 2013 at 11:27 AM

Did the law professor really use cash tips as an example of self reporting? You do realize that maybe 10% of all cash tips are reported, right. That means almost all of these employees will fail to report accurately. What a mess.

Ta111 on July 7, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Wouldn’t it work the other way too? Where you can’t prove you have adequate insurance and have to pay the fine?

wolly4321 on July 7, 2013 at 11:32 AM

sorry, this is NOT INCOMPETENCE! This is the administration angling to maximize the number of subsidies it can hand out. The more oyal subects it has, the more likely they cement the welfare state in place. It is purely intentional!

theosdad on July 7, 2013 at 11:34 AM

What a disaster.

Obama and honor in the same sentence is laughable.

gophergirl on July 7, 2013 at 11:35 AM

BuckeyeSam on July 7, 2013 at 11:26 AM

Apparently, you are unfamiliar with the earned income tax credit.

boone on July 7, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Super. Obamacare subscribers to be on “honor system”

Where was the “honor system” when this bill was written and signed into law Mr. President? House and Senate Democrats? Was there ANY HONOR expected from THE PEOPLE —who trusted their representatives to provide the truth about the real cost EVERY AMERICAN would incur? This train-wreck is coming to light, (FINALLY), and the bad news has yet to come. This program/law/tax/entitlement could literally destroy this nation’s economy as it comes into fruition, and this President, the Democratic Party, Justice Roberts (and the lemmings that voted to support this party) will be solely responsible for the disastrous outcome. The only “honorable” thing to do is to purge this treacherous legislation from the annals of American history TODAY! The only mistake this nation can make is to see a train-wreck in advance of its final destination, and do nothing about it.

Rovin on July 7, 2013 at 11:40 AM

These halfwits have given up. They created a monstrous legislative abomination, brought it to life with a jolt of partisan lightning, and now the thing is shuffling around the room crushing everything in sight.

Simply more of Barky the Wonder Boy yelling “Just make it work!” before stomping off in a huff and grabbing his golf bag. The great experiment of installing a community organizer and his grifting cabal of criminal losers to our highest political offices is once again rearing its ugly head.

Bishop on July 7, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Reminds me of….hmmmmm….Tammany Hall….

workingclass artist on July 7, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Pigford for healthcare.

-Instapundit

Wethal on July 7, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Can someone help me with math. Last I heard the employer mandate brought in $115 billion in ten years. The individual mandate $46 billion in ten years.

It was sold as costing less than the Iraq war at $900 billion.
Now CBO says around $2.6 trillion.

I’m not an accountant, but surely I am missing something.

They increased costs, and reduced revenue,, no?

wolly4321 on July 7, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Super. Obamacare subscribers to be on “honor system”

So, yet another way to punish the honest and reward the depraved.

Count to 10 on July 7, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Did the law professor really use cash tips as an example of self reporting? You do realize that maybe 10% of all cash tips are reported, right. That means almost all of these employees will fail to report accurately. What a mess.

Ta111 on July 7, 2013 at 11:30 AM

This is one reason why they would want a “cashless society”. Bill of Rights issues, surely very important, but this would be even more devastating to our Liberty.

Not only could they automatically steal money from folks, but without cash reserves they could shut down the system and we’d be totally at their mercy and would do whatever they said. Oh, and even if they collected taxes automatically, the b-tards would still make us file for tax returns and hold that sword over our heads.

Sadly, this would be just totally awesome as far as the trendies, Yuppies and general sheeple would be concerned…especially if they had “killer apps” on their slick Apple i-whatevers to handle it all. They’d also get support from many fiscal Conservative types: “Doesn’t make any sense to actually print bills and mint coins-costs too damn much. Gotta save the taxpayers money.”

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 7, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Selective enforcement…by the IRS. What could go wrong?

BuckeyeSam on July 7, 2013 at 11:17 AM

What difference at this point does it make?

Flange on July 7, 2013 at 11:47 AM

I’m surprised no one has pointed out (or maybe I’m confused) that this only applies to the blue states which have implemented their own exchanges… The Red states that are denying Obamacare but still have to have federal exchanges are getting AUDITED for compliance.

This is illegal. Further this is unconstitutional. Lincoln formed the GOP in only two years after te Whig party was determined to be flaccid… It’s surprising we can’t do the same.

Skywise on July 7, 2013 at 11:47 AM

*cough,cough* Cloward & Piven *cough*

wolly4321 on July 7, 2013 at 11:48 AM

How can this administration ask for people to stick to an honor system when they themselves have demonstrated they have no honor?

RebeccaH on July 7, 2013 at 11:55 AM

Obamacare and honor are like oil & water.

22044 on July 7, 2013 at 11:08 AM

Equally true.

iurockhead on July 7, 2013 at 11:57 AM

If you’re really interested in the state of your health over the next few years,I’d recommend using the subsidy for guns and ammo.

justltl on July 7, 2013 at 12:01 PM

I think somebody is starting to see cracks in their plan..LoLz..:)

Dire Straits on July 7, 2013 at 12:03 PM

They can’t be that stupid…

Once this boondoggle gets underway “gubmint” will suddenly decide it is too cumbersome to actually operate….so…according to the original Progressive long range plan…government will step in, avert a crisis, and declare that according to Section 23, Para 7, subpara (14)…”in the event that Obamacare becomes unworkable” everything will revolve into a government owned, sponsored, approved, and operated…and monitored…single-payer system.

There has got to be language to that effect written in there somewhere…even though it might not yet be written…lots of open paragraphs “to be filled in” later in that bill we had to pass in order to know what was in it.

George Soros owns an insurance conglomerate…so he’d be perfectly placed to take care of it all. The rest of you guys, evil insurance companies…bugger off.

One more item…can the Executive Branch
simply change a law passed by the Legislative Branch on a whim?

Seems Obama is doing that more and more.

Is this a legitimate Constitutional question?

Oh…that’s right…our Constitution was tossed out the window by Team Obama, Congress (both parties) and the Roberts court.

Nevermind…

Single payer it is.

Let the rationing begin. Old people have an obligation to die, early…and sick and sickly kids…well, you know, it helps society to breed out disease and infirmities…and why waste the money?

Obama and his successors (whenever Obama decides to step down) need the cash for African safaris and sending money to Hamas, the Brotherhood and other friends of Amerika.

(spit)

coldwarrior on July 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Obamacare’s future is to get as many people as possible into the system and receiving subsidies.

Naturally. Get ‘em hooked on welfare, foodstamps and health care. Their votes are sure to follow.

Anyone remember what happened in the real estate market with all those ‘wink, wink, nudge, nudge’ “no income verification” home loans?

It would appear that ‘the law’ is going to be whatever King Barry says it is.

GarandFan on July 7, 2013 at 12:06 PM

This is one reason why they would want a “cashless society”. Bill of Rights issues, surely very important, but this would be even more devastating to our Liberty.

Not only could they automatically steal money from folks, but without cash reserves they could shut down the system and we’d be totally at their mercy and would do whatever they said. Oh, and even if they collected taxes automatically, the b-tards would still make us file for tax returns and hold that sword over our heads.

Sadly, this would be just totally awesome as far as the trendies, Yuppies and general sheeple would be concerned…especially if they had “killer apps” on their slick Apple i-whatevers to handle it all. They’d also get support from many fiscal Conservative types: “Doesn’t make any sense to actually print bills and mint coins-costs too damn much. Gotta save the taxpayers money.”

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 7, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Terrifyingly spot-on analysis, Doctor. Especially the last part. Seriously, it’s bad enough that the Feds could shut down the Internet (and let’s face it, there’s no way to avert that) – but imagine all fiscal transactions going down with the ‘net.

That’s not just a tyrant’s dream, that’s a hacker’s fantasy come true since everything must be done online. And considering John Q. Average doesn’t give two hoots and a holler about security…

MelonCollie on July 7, 2013 at 12:07 PM

We have had it.We should change the name of the country to BOHICA.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWVUIUMleVE

docflash on July 7, 2013 at 12:08 PM

If they can make more people dependent on government by allowing them to scam the taxpayer (look at the lack of scrutiny on Social Security Disability and on food stamp eligibility Obama phones etc.) it serves three purposes of the progressive left:

1. Wealth redistribution.
2. Entrenched political power for the progressive left that gets credits for the handouts.
3. It screws the private sector wealth producers of the nation that the progressive left despises.

KW64 on July 7, 2013 at 12:11 PM

I don’t get this thing where Obama simply rewrites laws. Is that part of the secret constitution Obama passed along with the secret courts and the secret laws?

pat on July 7, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Pat- yes.

wolly4321 on July 7, 2013 at 12:14 PM

…ha!…what’s that?

KOOLAID2 on July 7, 2013 at 11:04 AM

It’s PC for “Mo’ Free Sh!t!!!”

Gator Country on July 7, 2013 at 12:17 PM

So, is the government omnipotent? or, is it incompetent? Omnipotently incompetent? Incompetently omnipotent?

I is confuserated.

trigon on July 7, 2013 at 12:22 PM

The administration is clearly worried enough about enrollment to take that risk and bear that cost. It seems to be operating under the assumption that the way to secure Obamacare’s future is to get as many people as possible into the system and receiving subsidies. Maybe they’re right, and maybe they’re wrong, but they certainly seem increasingly desperate.

This strikes me as remarkably similar to the Voter ID debate. Democrats/liberals claiming that there is no need for such a law as there is no voter fraud going occurring and essentially claiming that the current “honor”system is suffificent. It begs the question of how many fewer votes they’d get with a Voter ID law.

Hell, if it works for voting why not make the same play for Obamacare?

parke on July 7, 2013 at 12:24 PM

trigon on July 7, 2013 at 12:22 PM

I think it’s just communist.

Flange on July 7, 2013 at 12:28 PM

So Obama changes laws he doesn’t like by selective enforcement. Press says not a word.

Only conservatives are audited and harassed by the IRS. No problem with the press because Obama is looking into it.

Fast and Furious, Benghazi, foreign policy falling like a house of cards all over the mid east…crickets.

Only 47% of workers. Have full-time jobs and are carrying the entire weight of the behemoth of government on our backs with NO relief in sight. No alarm bells, just fine.

And only conservatives will have to abide by Obamacare, and nary a word of protest.

Yep, good job all of you who stayed home and didn’t vote because Romney wasn’t conservative enough. Good job, thank you.

JustTruth101 on July 7, 2013 at 12:36 PM

*cough,cough* Cloward & Piven *cough*

wolly4321 on July 7, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Yahtzee!

hillbillyjim on July 7, 2013 at 12:36 PM

I’m confuserated too.

Common core is kmer rouge. Obummercare has shades of germany. It all blurs together. We have Stasi as well.

Seems like they have incorporated all thier favorite parts into one package.

wolly4321 on July 7, 2013 at 12:39 PM

An honor system for those having none—AWESOME!

hillsoftx on July 7, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Don’t be too hard on the Obama administration. Bear in mind, honor is not their area of expertise.

There Goes the Neighborhood on July 7, 2013 at 12:46 PM

I don’t get this thing where Obama simply rewrites laws. Is that part of the secret constitution Obama passed along with the secret courts and the secret laws?

pat on July 7, 2013 at 12:11 PM

The other thing to not get is why the GOP doesn’t say “Hold on a minute, jackass, you aren’t king and you can’t just change the law at your whim.”

Our entire political establishment has forsaken its people; how is it that average Americans notice the illegality but our own Congress won’t do anything because of the “optics”? They all need to broomed and at that quickly and without mercy or sympathy.

Bishop on July 7, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Maybe it’s a setup in hopes Nancy can take back the gavel in 2014 and keep the senate so they can declare a repeal of obamacare and ram thru single-payer. A go for broke scheme to include voter fraud and the NSA to find enough dirt to trash the GOPe and split their votes against the 3rd party. Bring it on.

AH_C on July 7, 2013 at 12:48 PM

No cheating now, ya’ll!

Please, it’s y’all not ya’ll. You all.

behiker on July 7, 2013 at 12:55 PM

You conservatives and your silly conspiracy theories. It’s not like you ever have Democratic politicians in conjunction with liberal activist groups filing last minute lawsuits before a Democratic judge for an emergency injunction of laws that were passed over Democrat objections 116 days before, in the last half hour possible before the law goes into effect, because they say the law is too “vague.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3037983/posts

That never happens.

There Goes the Neighborhood on July 7, 2013 at 1:19 PM

Super. Obamacare subscribers to be on “honor system”

…ha!…what’s that?

KOOLAID2 on July 7, 2013 at 11:04 AM

That’s the system the government says they didn’t do anything wrong, (Lois Lerner, Hillary, Holder, et.al) and the LSM says “allrighty then, nothing to see here, let’s move on and spend the rest of the day talking about the Zimmerman trial”.

TulsAmerican on July 7, 2013 at 1:20 PM

They trust us when it comes to reporting income for purposes of handing out money.

They don’t trust us when we tell them we aren’t terrorists when it comes to purposes of reading our email or that we aren’t political organizations when it comes to tax purposes.

Makes sense.

ChrisL on July 7, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Without valid checks WHAT will stop MILLIONS of ILLEGAL ALIENS, both domestic and ABROAD, from signing up for Obamacare?

Clearly, this means that when Joe Wilson stated ‘You Lie’, he was absolutely right!

Freddy on July 7, 2013 at 1:28 PM

PS: WHERE is the CBO estimate of the costs of this NEW Obamacare REELECTION program?

Freddy on July 7, 2013 at 1:29 PM

Might as well call it single-payer and be done with it. None of the systems needed to process and regulate the employer mandate or the exchanges will be ready by 2014, so we’ll have “free” socialized healthcare for all. Why pay even a nominal fine at all when you can cheat the system and get fully subsidized coverage?

All going according to plan, comrades.

Philly on July 7, 2013 at 1:51 PM

It’s no different than amnesty. Anyone who thinks the government is going to perform background checks on 11-20 million illegals is a fool.

bw222 on July 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Wow. I can pick my premiums! Unbelieveable.

bopbottle on July 7, 2013 at 1:59 PM

So speeding tickets are now on the honor system.

What will radar detector manufactures say about this. Oh, the job losses.

CW20 on July 7, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Never chalk any of this up to incompetence; it is all with deliberate intent, with the end-goal squarely in mind.

Midas on July 7, 2013 at 2:38 PM

If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor…

…in a little room off the wash room in the basement, because that’s the only way you’ll ever be able to see him.

coldwarrior on July 7, 2013 at 2:41 PM

The administration is clearly worried enough about enrollment to take that risk and bear that cost.

Um… whoever thinks the “administration” is the one bearing the costs for this clearly doesn’t understand how this scam works…

CapnObvious on July 7, 2013 at 2:42 PM

Timothy S. Jost, a law professor at Washington and Lee University in Lexington, Va: “An awful lot of the economy is a cash economy,” he said. “If we had to verify every statement that was made to the IRS, our economy would collapse.”

Idiocy among college professors seems more like a feature than a bug.

This is like saying, “If utility companies had to check if people’s bills were really being paid, they’d go broke.”

The IRS just hired something like 16k new vampires to administer OboobaCare. Why bother, if it doesn’t matter if people really are complying or not?

Akzed on July 7, 2013 at 3:01 PM

If it were not for incompetence and corruption the 0bama regime would have nothing at all.

SMART Power!!!!!1111!!!elevinty

jukin3 on July 7, 2013 at 3:34 PM

When you combine this with the delay in the employer mandate, won’t that make it rather hard to enforce anything to do with the implementation of this program? That’s the question that Avik Roy is asking at Forbes.

ZeroCare ™ just isn’t gonna work. Only the honest will get sodomized by it.

Simply more of Barky the Wonder Boy yelling “Just make it work!” before stomping off in a huff and grabbing his golf bag. The great experiment of installing a community organizer and his grifting cabal of criminal losers to our highest political offices is once again rearing its ugly head.

Bishop on July 7, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Excellently expressed point Bishop.

dogsoldier on July 7, 2013 at 4:00 PM

I have mixed feelings about all of this. By the time I have to worry about the fine, I’ll be unemployed again anyway, so why get worked up?

dogsoldier on July 7, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Get a good stiff drink before reading this:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-07-07/15-signs-quality-jobs-america-fading-fast

dogsoldier on July 7, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Bishop, you are correct. The GOP is hopeless and spineless and ineffective.

PattyJ on July 7, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Obamacare is sick.

(Who knew Obama’s real name was Honor Blackman?)

profitsbeard on July 7, 2013 at 5:49 PM

Bishop, you are correct. The GOP is hopeless and spineless and ineffective.

PattyJ on July 7, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Agreed. Because the Republican-controlled House has abdicated its duty of checks and balances (impeach all these traitorous criminals, even though the traitorous Dem’s in the Senate won’t convict; refuse to pass any funding/legislation until the Dog Eater resigns; et. al.), the good patriots of the land will have to eventually exercise the final check and balance implied (as in Mr. Jefferson’s Tree of Liberty): [insert banned word hear].

ShainS on July 7, 2013 at 6:46 PM

Ugh. Spell y’all correctly in the subhed. In the Republic of Texas, this will be a misdemeanor.

321mdl on July 7, 2013 at 8:37 PM

So what’s the penalty for violating the “honor system”? More subsidy dollars?

Philly on July 7, 2013 at 9:16 PM

Can one receive the subsidy and then elect to still not purchase insurance?

weaselyone on July 8, 2013 at 9:52 AM