The next victim of Fast and Furious

posted at 10:01 am on July 6, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

Remember the good ole’ days when Fast and Furious was one of the only major, breaking scandals you needed to keep track of? Ah, good times, my friends. But even though the press has largely moved on to fresher fare, the gunwalker scandal is still with us, and apparently still claiming victims.

A high-powered rifle lost in the ATF’s Fast and Furious controversy was used to kill a Mexican police chief in the state of Jalisco earlier this year, according to internal Department of Justice records, suggesting that weapons from the failed gun-tracking operation have now made it into the hands of violent drug cartels deep inside Mexico.

Luis Lucio Rosales Astorga, the police chief in the city of Hostotipaquillo, was shot to death Jan. 29 when gunmen intercepted his patrol car and opened fire. Also killed was one of his bodyguards. His wife and a second bodyguard were wounded.

Local authorities said eight suspects in their 20s and 30s were arrested after police seized them nearby with a cache of weapons — rifles, grenades, handguns, helmets, bulletproof vests, uniforms and special communications equipment. The area is a hot zone for rival drug gangs, with members of three cartels fighting over turf in the region.

This story was brought to my attention by our old friend Jeff Dunetz, who has been tracking this disaster pretty much from the beginning. He provides a timely reminder of how one individual from the Obama administration remains at the center of this debacle.

It was a Fast and Furious weapon that was used to Kill U.S. Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry n 2010. We are still waiting for the full story. However Atty. Gen. Holder has refused to share. He is being held in contempt of Congress for refusing to turn over a number of Fast and Furious records sought by the House Oversight Committee.

How Eric Holder maintains his job until this day in the face of all the disastrous failures coming out of the Justice department has become something of a stunning saga. But apparently the President has determined that the political cost of admitting an error in initially appointing him is higher than the damage Holder continues to do with each new revelation. At this point, it’s beginning to look rather unlikely that Holder will voluntarily exit (or be pushed out the door by his boss) until the end of the term.


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Bush’s fault.
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The left’s a joke.

CW on July 6, 2013 at 10:04 AM

From selling pardons to traitors and tax cheats to running guns to drug cartels and murderers Holder has really put up a career mark, hasn’t he?

MTF on July 6, 2013 at 10:06 AM

Reposted now that it’s reposted.
 
Note the language.
 

A high-powered rifle lost in the ATF’s Fast and Furious controversy was used to kill a Mexican police chief in the state of Jalisco earlier this year

 

They’re implying bolt-action and avoiding “assault weapon” for some reason. From the link:
 
 

“A semi-automatic WASR rifle, the firearm that killed the chief”

 

WASRs are AK variants.
 
They’re the most evil “assault weapons” you can find. Some are even black. These are true bad guy “assault weapons”. So bad they were called out by our president by name.
 

“But I also believe that a lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers and not in the hands of crooks. They belong on the battlefield of war, not on the streets of our cities”
 
- President Barack H. Obama, July 2012

 

Go to the link. Nowhere is “assault” or “ak” found. Weird, eh?
 
1) They’re either hoping to start a push against hunting rifles as well (especially since they know their readers have no clue), or
 
2) they’re trying to avoid associating the AK used to kill that police chief with Obama’s gunrunning.
 

I’m leaning towards the latter. The first one is probably just gravy.

rogerb on July 6, 2013 at 10:08 AM

Perhaps if Eric Holder were to terminate the employment of some federal attorneys, then perhaps the democrats might demand his removal.

locomotivebreath1901 on July 6, 2013 at 10:21 AM

Chalk up another Chicago hit “score” to Eric the Red at JustUs.

viking01 on July 6, 2013 at 10:24 AM

Isn’t it sweet that Obama can claim Executive Privilege on these documents, while the weapons still kill. If we had a free press in this country, someone would surely hold him accountable.

bflat879 on July 6, 2013 at 10:25 AM

But apparently the President has determined that the political cost of admitting an error in initially appointing him is higher than the damage Holder continues to do with each new revelation.

Jazz you are missing the point. Obama doesn’t see Holder as an “error” Obama continues to support holder because he is doing exactly what Obama has told him to do. you do not fire someone for carrying out your objectives to the letter. You promote them. This goes for Susan Rice and Powers also.

the only way Holder goes is if the GOP makes it very politcally costly for Obama to keep him and even at that pointI think Obama sinc ehe won re-election and will not be running again (I hope) will take the hit in approval ratings and keep him on. Congress can impeach Holder I think but that would require courage and morals something Congress doesn’t have.

unseen on July 6, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Isn’t it sweet that Obama can claim Executive Privilege on these documents, while the weapons still kill. If we had a free press in this country, someone would surely hold him accountable.

bflat879 on July 6, 2013 at 10:25 AM

It will take an act of congress withholding funding for the DOJ to ge tthe documents. The GOPe doesn’t want to make waves.

unseen on July 6, 2013 at 10:33 AM

sí sí podemos asesinar…

Yes Yes we can murder

workingclass artist on July 6, 2013 at 10:33 AM

Fast & Furious is Holder’s way of supporting the 2nd Amendment. He thinks everyone, foreign or domestic, has the right to firearms.

NotEasilyFooled on July 6, 2013 at 10:34 AM

It’s okay. It’s okay.

The killer obviously gets a pass for any crimes because he was using David Gregory’s magazine.

viking01 on July 6, 2013 at 10:36 AM

unseen on July 6, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Why would the GOP go after Holder, it is way more fun and easy to go after all those icky conservatives, known to the rest of the world as the base?

Cindy Munford on July 6, 2013 at 10:36 AM

Go to the link. Nowhere is “assault” or “ak” found. Weird, eh?

rogerb on July 6, 2013 at 10:08 AM

Very weird. Just words…

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/blake-fleetwood/just-words-just-words-is-_b_87388.html

Fallon on July 6, 2013 at 10:37 AM

Jazz you are missing the point. Obama doesn’t see Holder as an “error” Obama continues to support holder because he is doing exactly what Obama has told him to do.
unseen on July 6, 2013 at 10:32 AM

I doubt IL Duce even has to instruct these people specifically…They do his bidding because they are a collective Leftist BORG…a Hivemind mentality.

Holder,Lerner,Sebillius,Napolitano etc. are classic Apparatchik.

The Leftist Appratchiki are entrenched at every level of federal government and every level of civic institutions that rely on the federal government for funding.

workingclass artist on July 6, 2013 at 10:38 AM

“At this point, it’s beginning to look rather unlikely that Holder will voluntarily exit (or be pushed out the door by his boss) until the end of the term.”

It’s never looked otherwise…Holder will be here to the end of this administration, unless he *chooses* to resign. Nobody is going to force him out. This may be the first administration in US history that operates devoid of consequences for it’s crimes and incompetence. We’ll be paying for this administration for generations…assuming we survive that long.

AUINSC on July 6, 2013 at 10:39 AM

How Eric Holder maintains his job until this day in the face of all the disastrous failures coming out of the Justice department has become something of a stunning saga.

A spineless opposition helps.

PattyJ on July 6, 2013 at 10:48 AM

It’s not like John “The Invisible Man” Boehner or McConnell the Meek will put up a fuss.

viking01 on July 6, 2013 at 10:48 AM

I don’t know why the press keeps saying the guns were “lost”. They’re exactly where the BATF wanted them to be: in the hands of Mexican criminal drug gangs and facilitating murder. Our government used every bit of its influence to get those guns into the hands of criminals, to prevent them from being removed from criminals, and to insure the armed criminals crossed the border. Our joke of a Congress may have completely failed to even find out what the purpose of the F&F operation was, but this aspect of it is perfectly clear from the DOJ’s actions.

Socratease on July 6, 2013 at 10:50 AM

This may be the first administration in US history that operates devoid of consequences for it’s crimes and incompetence. We’ll be paying for this administration for generations…assuming we survive that long.

AUINSC on July 6, 2013 at 10:39 AM

We are truly living in Bizarro World, where the threat of being called a “racist” almost universally silences critics and the supposed gatekeepers in the government and media. Attempting to adhere to our laws and using common sense have become extremist positions. Up is down and down is up.

Fallon on July 6, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Isn’t it sweet that Obama can claim Executive Privilege on these documents, while the weapons still kill. If we had a free press in this country, someone would surely hold him accountable.

bflat879 on July 6, 2013 at 10:25 AM

Well said!

Conservative_Hippie on July 6, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Can we call it the Department of Injustice now?

jukin3 on July 6, 2013 at 10:52 AM

What we need,is Democrat Gun Control,since the evidence proves
that Liberals,are careless,and cannot…”PROJECT”,what could
possibly happen,when lending out fire-arms!

canopfor on July 6, 2013 at 10:55 AM

Actually RWM posted on this last night. Ahead of the curve as usual.

This isn’t the “next victim”.

Just the next victim of some prominence. The true next victim is some nameless 12 year old kid caught in the crossfire.

Civilians count too.

wolly4321 on July 6, 2013 at 10:55 AM

Since there is no hint about Obama and a dead woman, I can only conclude that Holder caught him with a live boy….

deepdiver on July 6, 2013 at 11:06 AM

Eric the Red deserves a portion of the 500 meter solution.
III/0317

dirtengineer on July 6, 2013 at 11:08 AM

How Eric Holder maintains his job until this day in the face of all the disastrous failures coming out of the Justice department has become something of a stunning saga.

Read that a friggin month ago the DOJ was “considering” looking into the FBI shooting of Ibragim Todashev in Orlando…crickets.

Guess they can’t be bothered with that, either. They’re too busy lining their own pockets and advancing the Socialism racket I suppose.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 6, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Staying in the job is the only place he stays safe.
Once out, he loses the free Security detail and becomes a “regular” target like the rest of us.
The 500 meter solution.
III/0317

dirtengineer on July 6, 2013 at 11:15 AM

Meanwhile,, Mark Kelly and Giffords are running around the Country blaming gunshows.

wolly4321 on July 6, 2013 at 11:17 AM

Why would the GOP go after Holder, it is way more fun and easy to go after all those icky conservatives, known to the rest of the world as the base?

Cindy Munford on July 6, 2013 at 10:36 AM

yeap to the GOPe Holder is the person doing the job members of GOPE won’t do.

Much like illegals are the people to the GOPe doing the jobs americaqns won’t do. No wonder they support bopth Holder and the illegals over us middle class Americans.

unseen on July 6, 2013 at 11:20 AM

It will take an act of congress withholding funding for the DOJ to ge tthe documents. The GOPe doesn’t want to make waves.

unseen on July 6, 2013 at 10:33 AM

If the plan really was to create enough gun chaos at the border to allow them to pass law to take firearms from the public, they can never let that be known. It would be political disaster. Nothing will force them to reveal that. They will shred documents, delete e-mails pardon any would be squealers so they cannot be pressured, whatever it takes.

KW64 on July 6, 2013 at 11:21 AM

doubt IL Duce even has to instruct these people specifically…They do his bidding because they are a collective Leftist BORG…a Hivemind mentality.

Holder,Lerner,Sebillius,Napolitano etc. are classic Apparatchik.

The Leftist Appratchiki are entrenched at every level of federal government and every level of civic institutions that rely on the federal government for funding.

workingclass artist on July 6, 2013 at 10:38 AM

either way the point remains. holder still has a job because Obama supports his actions. If Holder was going against Obama’s orders or suggestions he would be fired 5 years ago.

unseen on July 6, 2013 at 11:22 AM

If the plan really was to create enough gun chaos at the border to allow them to pass law to take firearms from the public, they can never let that be known. It would be political disaster. Nothing will force them to reveal that. They will shred documents, delete e-mails pardon any would be squealers so they cannot be pressured, whatever it takes.

KW64 on July 6, 2013 at 11:21 AM

doesn’t matter. then you make the cover-up the issue and you can suggest why they did the cover-up. burning documents works against you. sure you can’t 100% prove the crime but you give your enemies the ammo they need to say whatever they want and you have no documents to refute their talking points. The fact remains the issues isn’t a pressing issue because The GOPe doesn’t want to make it one.

unseen on July 6, 2013 at 11:24 AM

“At this point, what difference does it make?”

rrpjr on July 6, 2013 at 11:27 AM

It’s not just holder. Don’t forget napoleantano was the Guv of AZ.

You remember the spring of 2009?

They ALL went to Mexico. Chanting the same mantra of 90% of guns come from th U.S.

All of them. Barky, hitlery, holder, nappyhoe, in sync.

Remember? They threw the squirrel out that barky might have shook the hand of someone with swine flu. We were ALL going to die from swine flu.

Modus operandi.

wolly4321 on July 6, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Nothing will be done about any of the crimes and misdemeanors perpetrated by this administration because the press is complicit.

The only way politicians punish their own is if the people get all po’d about it.

Vince on July 6, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Katie Pavlich wrote the book on this. I wish Ed would get her to the greenroom. She’s an AZ girl and she knows what went down.

wolly4321 on July 6, 2013 at 11:34 AM

Sorry guys; on this, and so many other topics, ‘justice’ will, at this point, only be served if ‘the people’ take it upon themselves to do it – personally, and physically.

If you’ve been waiting for the press to do something, for the authorities to do something, for Congress to do something, etc – well, get comfortable, because that’s an eternal ‘wait’. Even if the GOP wins in 2014/2016, they will not do anything about it in order to ‘move on’, ‘let the national healing begin’, blah blah. Dubya did the same damn thing for people that were waiting for some real consequences to land at Clinton’s feet, too.

Not going to happen.

Midas on July 6, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Eric Holder keeps his job because if he resigned, or was fired, BHO would have to honor that extradition warrant from Mexico that he keeps in his desk drawer.
The question for 20 Jan 2017 is:
Can a U.S. President pardon a U.S. citizen for alleged crimes committed in a foreign country in violation of foreign laws?

Another Drew on July 6, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Sorry guys; on this, and so many other topics, ‘justice’ will, at this point, only be served if ‘the people’ take it upon themselves to do it – personally, and physically.
Midas on July 6, 2013 at 11:40 AM

I agree with this more and more each day.

rrpjr on July 6, 2013 at 12:11 PM

Charges should wait till Jan 20 2017 or the “O” will pardon any criminal he is able to check off the list handed to him.

mixplix on July 6, 2013 at 12:19 PM

Imagine how interesting things would be today if one of the guns Adam Lanza possessed had been traced back to F&F.

I know, I know. Just an idle musing.

kurtzz3 on July 6, 2013 at 12:27 PM

rogerb on July 6, 2013 at 10:08 AM

Nice catch roger. With the media these days its always their ignorance on the subject of guns, complicit with gov to dodge reality or a combo of both.

oryguncon on July 6, 2013 at 12:32 PM

Isn’t it sweet that Obama can claim Executive Privilege on these documents, while the weapons still kill. If we had a free press in this country, someone would surely hold him accountable.

bflat879 on July 6, 2013 at 10:25 AM

We still have a free press. It’s just that they’re so in the tank for the left in general and Obama in particular that they choose to exercise that freedom in a totally disgusting manner. This is much worse than having a state controlled media. What these fools don’t realize is that very soon we won’t have a free press and it’s mostly due to them. I find it difficult to express my feelings for our so called journalists without the use of profanity so I’ll just stop there.

Oldnuke on July 6, 2013 at 12:39 PM

Imagine how interesting things would be today if one of the guns Adam Lanza possessed had been traced back to F&F.

I know, I know. Just an idle musing.

kurtzz3 on July 6, 2013 at 12:27 PM

I’m pretty sure that any evidence of F&F guns used in crimes in the USA would be buried deep in one of the White House’s ‘undisclosed location’ bunkers.

With the REB’s administration you have to look at what has leaked out and extrapolate from there to get the likely truth.

slickwillie2001 on July 6, 2013 at 12:57 PM

This may be the first administration in US history that operates devoid of consequences for it’s crimes and incompetence. We’ll be paying for this administration for generations…assuming we survive that long.

AUINSC on July 6, 2013 at 10:39 AM

We are truly living in Bizarro World, where the threat of being called a “racist” almost universally silences critics and the supposed gatekeepers in the government and media. Attempting to adhere to our laws and using common sense have become extremist positions. Up is down and down is up.

Fallon on July 6, 2013 at 10:50 AM

Any criticism will not be tolerated by leftists and their agitprop media or their special interest group young pioneers

Opponents to the Leftist Agenda are either racist or greedy capitalists or homophobic or fanatical gun slingers…

http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/07/after_bashing_the_vatican_will_gays_deny_abuse_in_their_community.html

workingclass artist on July 6, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Obama won.

losarkos on July 6, 2013 at 2:56 PM

But apparently the President has determined that the political cost of admitting an error in initially appointing him is higher than the damage Holder continues to do with each new revelation. At this point, it’s beginning to look rather unlikely that Holder will voluntarily exit (or be pushed out the door by his boss) until the end of the term.

Holder knows where Obama’s skeletons are…

Big John on July 7, 2013 at 12:17 AM