Rubio to introduce Senate bill banning abortion after 20 weeks

posted at 2:41 pm on July 3, 2013 by Allahpundit

Here’s the silver lining to comprehensive immigration reform, conservatives. Having spent loads of his right-wing political capital on pandering furiously to centrist Republicans and Latino voters with amnesty, Rubio will work overtime the next two years to earn some of it back by pandering furiously to you.

We can’t be more than six months away, I figure, from him introducing a national concealed-carry bill. Which, of course, will go nowhere in the Senate, just like this one:

Senator Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) today agreed to be the lead sponsor of a Senate bill to ban abortion after an unborn child is 20 weeks old. A similar measure passed the House last month and a state version is now being debated in the Texas legislature, where it is likely to be approved.

With Rubio’s presence, the bill is certain to gain enormous media attention and thus more national visibility for the issue of limiting late term abortions. Right-to-life groups have urged Rubio to take the lead on the issue, believing he would be the strongest possible advocate in the Senate. Several sources confirmed he’d agreed.

The bill faces an uphill fight in the Democrat-controlled Senate and a veto threat by President Obama. But win or lose, Republicans and the leaders of the pro-life movement regard the 20-week ban as an especially favorable issue for their cause – and one that might strengthen GOP candidates in the 2014 midterm election…

At the very least, Republicans will benefit from having the Rubio-backed legislation take center stage, overshadowing controversial statements by Republican candidates in 2012 about rape and abortion. The bill provides an exception to the late term ban in the case of rape or incest and when a physical health condition puts the life of the mother at risk.

There’s little reason to think Rubio doesn’t genuinely support this, however suspicious the timing of his involvement. He’s spoken in defense of life repeatedly in his speeches. But the cynicism about his motives here — and there’s a lot of it on the right, if the comments to the Headlines item on this story are any yardstick — are inevitable after his betrayal on immigration. The lesson many border hawks have taken away from the Gang of Eight fiasco after having been so impressed by candidate Rubio’s rhetoric on amnesty is that you simply can’t trust him, even on a subject that’s hugely important to conservative voters. I trust with 95 percent confidence that he backs this abortion bill on the merits, apart from and in addition to the political benefits it has for him. Six months ago, I would have told you that confidence was 100 percent. That’s what he gets for being a liar.

Anyway, the other silver lining here is that this could end up being fertile ground for a GOP offensive on abortion, assuming some idiot somewhere in the caucus doesn’t instantly Akinize it. If the focus remains on late-term abortion, which the public overwhelmingly opposes and which forces Democrats to sweat through tragicomic explanations of why Kermit Gosnell is bad but late-term abortion is good, that’s good politics. If the focus turns to banning abortion entirely, that’s more complicated given that the public also reliably supports abortion rights during the first trimester. Obviously, the entire GOP field in 2016 will be staunchly pro-life at every stage of pregnancy, but the fact that Rubio’s pushing a bill on a hot-button social issue right now reminds me how immigration reform has also probably left him with zero room to maneuver on other social issues. The base will forgive him one big betrayal on core policy matters, but not two. Even if he ended up “evolving” privately on gay marriage a la Obama, he has no choice realistically but to remain firmly in favor of traditional marriage. In that sense, he’s the opposite of Rand Paul. Rubio spent all his conservative currency on amnesty so now he’s stuck being a by-the-book conservative on everything else whether he wants to be or not. (That’s why he lamely claimed that the big dealbreaker for him in the immigration process was extending benefits to gay spouses of legalized illegals, which the Supreme Court ended up ordering anyway.) Paul wants to save his conservative currency for more libertarian approaches to foreign policy, NSA spying, and maybe the drug war, which is why he took the very un-libertarian position of balking at the Gang of Eight bill because it didn’t have enough border security. He’ll be on board with Rubio’s new abortion bill, needless to say.


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He has no chance for the nomination (McCain) because conservatives won’t support him.
He has no chance for the nomination (Romney) because conservatives won’t support him.
How’s that workin’ out?
Of course the general elections of 2008 and 2012 do prove something about ignoring the ideological base.
GreenBlade on July 3, 2013 at 3:27 PM

You’re probably right. But he’s never getting my vote.

Shadow on July 3, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Anyway, the other silver lining here is that this could end up being fertile ground for a GOP offensive on abortion, assuming some idiot somewhere in the caucus doesn’t instantly Akinize it.

no, it’s time for the pro-abortion side to have akin moments. they will have one eventually, which is why i’m glad rubio’s putting this bill out there and gaining attention. well, they’ve already had some akin moments to be honest. (my favorite is the planned parenthood person implying that if a failed abortion- which produces a living baby- happens, then the mother can choose for doctors NOT to save him or her.) but sadly, those things haven’t spread throughout the public yet as much as akin’s comments, so there needs to be some new moments made on the abortion-supporting side that do actually spread throughout the public. i think that it will happen eventually.

Sachiko on July 3, 2013 at 3:44 PM

When Rubio gets “his Democrats” to sign onto this, then he can claim that his “bipartisanship” was good for the GOP. Until then, I will wonder why he wasted the openings made available by the Gosnell trial to forward this agenda (a lesson he should have learned from Democrats post-Sandy Hook) to pursue photo ops with Schumer along the Mexican border.

blammm on July 3, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Wrongway Rubio is at it again

faraway on July 3, 2013 at 3:48 PM

I can’t wait to see Chuck Schumer on camera calling for abortion restrictions. Oh, wait… the chances of Chuck Schumer betraying his voting base like Rubio did are exactly zero.

RJL on July 3, 2013 at 3:04 PM

You will never see Chuck U Schumer on a committee where the Republican asks the question, “Does that work for our democrats?”

Interesting test though, how many dems are going to be willing to “reach across the aisle” to “do something” in the wake of the Gosnell revelations and “get something done”? /yeah, that’ll happen

AZfederalist on July 3, 2013 at 3:48 PM

(my favorite is the planned parenthood person implying that if a failed abortion- which produces a living baby- happens, then the mother can choose for doctors NOT to save him or her.)

Sachiko on July 3, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Implying, nothing. Obama’s only principled vote in Illinois was against the Right To Live, this very issue. The doctor is required by law not to assist the live baby of a failed abortion.

John the Libertarian on July 3, 2013 at 3:49 PM

Perry got a lot of support for his stand on abortion in Texas and that is what Rubio saw and decided to emulate. Rubio is just trying to recover his political capital. That obviously doesn’t mean Perry is like Rubio.

sharrukin on July 3, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Sorry if I misunderstood.
I guess I’m still touchy about some of the disingenuous smears leveled against Perry by other Republicans during the debate season.

DRayRaven on July 3, 2013 at 3:50 PM

This action solidifies my opinion of Marco-the-Rube: he is a blithering idiot.

Henry Bowman on July 3, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Tea Party extremists still consider him in terms of his ethnicity. He will never be Marco Rubio. He will always be Latino Senator, butt of tea-party race-baiting jokes, amnesty-loving, America-hating Marco Rubio.

Capitalist Hog on July 3, 2013 at 3:14 PM

The porn is rotting what’s left of your brain. The tea party supported Rubio, and many here thought he was great. He was never a joke, until he betrayed his supporters. Why don’t you just come out and start calling people racist. Don’t beat around the bush. Do what you so desire to do.

DFCtomm on July 3, 2013 at 3:59 PM

Well, “bless” his little ole backstabbing heart.

kunegetikos on July 3, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Oh, now we see the beginning of his trying to redeem his lost respect of those who supported him a few years ago. Too bad, the ink has barely dried on his Schumer-Rubio Amnesty 2013 proposal! Memories aren’t that short, Marco. Better wait a bit longer for a redemption try.

tomshup on July 3, 2013 at 4:01 PM

This isn’t a federal issue – Roe v Wade not withstanding. WHat we need from congress is a bill stating they disagree with the supremes’ opinion about the constitutionality of the Roe decision as a means to throw all abortion law back to the states – where it properly belongs.

Zomcon JEM on July 3, 2013 at 4:01 PM

OT But The Prosecution at the Zimmerman Trial was skype bombed today…

This trial should go down in the annals of history for prosecutorial incompetence.

Link:
Hilarious Skype Bombing Brings Halt To Witness Testimony In George Zimmerman Trial

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/skype/zimmerman-trial-skype-bombing-756390

workingclass artist on July 3, 2013 at 4:01 PM

So he angers the republican base and now he’s doing his best to be hated with the fury of a billion single women? Smart play. /

If it helps at all, I’m a staunch defender of Rubio’s war on women.

happytobehere on July 3, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Allahpundit, you make me sick. The guy had a 100% ACU rating going into the Immigration Bill debate. He agrees with you on virtually every issue except 1 and now you call him a panderer. Get over yourself, dude.

eaglephin on July 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM

He saw it work for Perry and decided to give it a try to bolster his dropping popularity.

sharrukin on July 3, 2013 at 2:46 PM

Perry has never been pro-amnesty. He has always supported border enforcement.

However, since the feds obviously weren’t protecting the border or enforcing immigration law, he offered in-state tuition for kids who had already been here most of their lives…rather than put them on the public dole later on. It was a way of stopping the feds’ irresponsibility from becoming a big problem for Texas. In that light, it makes perfect sense.

DRayRaven on July 3, 2013 at 3:33 PM

Yeah.

Texas lost that education case in the Supreme Court…so Texas decided this might save us money down the road…But there was always a sunset in the bill to change it if it didn’t save us money or Texans wanted to end it.

Every time Texas has tried to clean up the colonias…LULAC,La Raza and California agitates the situation.

workingclass artist on July 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM

no, it’s time for the pro-abortion side to have akin moments. they will have one eventually, which is why i’m glad rubio’s putting this bill out there and gaining attention. well, they’ve already had some akin moments to be honest. (my favorite is the planned parenthood person implying that if a failed abortion- which produces a living baby- happens, then the mother can choose for doctors NOT to save him or her.) but sadly, those things haven’t spread throughout the public yet as much as akin’s comments, so there needs to be some new moments made on the abortion-supporting side that do actually spread throughout the public. i think that it will happen eventually.
Sachiko on July 3, 2013 at 3:44 PM

That won’t happen till unborn children can vote.

happytobehere on July 3, 2013 at 4:08 PM

He’s spoken in defense of life repeatedly in his speeches.

Yeah, he did the same thing with illegal immigration and look what happened?

Akinize it.

That word has been added to the lexicon, hasn’t it?

In that sense, he’s the opposite of Rand Paul. Rubio spent all his conservative currency on amnesty so now he’s stuck being a by-the-book conservative on everything else whether he wants to be or not.

It’s just a game to these people. They play their “bases” and constituencies to further their power, saying the right words & catch phrases, pushing the “right” policies at predetermined times in order to massage their poll numbers and public perception opinion. I’m tired of it. I’m the new kind of RINO–Republican in name only so I can vote in primaries. Otherwise, I consider myself devoid of a party.

conservative pilgrim on July 3, 2013 at 4:09 PM

No Amnesty supporter should get the nomination.

thuja on July 3, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Allahpundit, you make me sick. The guy had a 100% ACU rating going into the Immigration Bill debate. He agrees with you on virtually every issue except 1 and now you call him a panderer. Get over yourself, dude.
eaglephin on July 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM

I don’t think it’s the disagreement that Allah is concerned about.

happytobehere on July 3, 2013 at 4:12 PM

I guess I’m still touchy about some of the disingenuous smears leveled against Perry by other Republicans during the debate season.

DRayRaven on July 3, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Yeah.

PPP has a new poll out.

Chris Christie polls better than Perry in Texas…so there ya go

Knives out are for Rick Perry…Yep!

workingclass artist on July 3, 2013 at 4:12 PM

No Amnesty supporter should get the nomination.
thuja on July 3, 2013 at 4:12 PM

You should make an argument for late-term abortion again. That’s your best shtick.

happytobehere on July 3, 2013 at 4:14 PM

One justly now despises Rubio even more.

kunegetikos on July 3, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Just after sticking a dagger into the heart of the Republican party with his amnesty betrayal, of which a passionate super majority of Republicans oppose, neocon Rubio then goes into pandering overdrive trying to appeal to any part of the party he can. I don’t think Rubio can appease the social conservatives after the amnesty dagger. Can he?

anotherJoe on July 3, 2013 at 4:16 PM

The guy had a 100% ACU rating going into the Immigration Bill debate.

Who cares?

The ACU ratings are a joke.

He agrees with you on virtually every issue except 1 and now you call him a panderer. Get over yourself, dude.

eaglephin on July 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM

He agreed on amnesty as well, until he decided he didn’t agree with himself on amnesty. Nothing Rubio says can be trusted.

sharrukin on July 3, 2013 at 4:16 PM

After you champion the one issue that completely divides Republicans, you toss out some red meat that will never even get voted on in the Senate. Yeah. #RubesForRubio

motionview on July 3, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Tea Party extremists still consider him in terms of his ethnicity. He will never be Marco Rubio. He will always be Latino Senator, butt of tea-party race-baiting jokes, amnesty-loving, America-hating Marco Rubio.

Capitalist Hog on July 3, 2013 at 3:14 PM

As a pasty white guy approaching 50 who was very active in the tea party and gave $100 to Rubio’s campaign for the senate, I’m sitting here completely shocked. You mean he’s, gulp, Latino? Gee, if only I’d known… I guess I should pay more attention to racially informed people like you.

beatcanvas on July 3, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Why not introduce a bill to ban corrupt “Bought and Paid For” politicians like yourself? Then maybe we will think about it.

Jayrae on July 3, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Who cares?

The ACU ratings are a joke.

By any measure he is one of the most conservative Senators in that body. Name an issue other than immigration reform, jerky.

eaglephin on July 3, 2013 at 4:19 PM

blammm on July 3, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Regardless of outcome he is not getting any support from me. A liar is a liar.

antisocial on July 3, 2013 at 4:22 PM

The guy had a 100% ACU rating going into the Immigration Bill debate. He agrees with you on virtually every issue except 1 and now you call him a panderer. Get over yourself, dude.
eaglephin on July 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM

So, you have no problem being lied to?

Tea Party extremists the Beltway Insiders/GOP Elite still consider him in terms of his ethnicity. He will never be Marco Rubio. He will always be Latino Senator, …..

Capitalist Hog on July 3, 2013 at 3:14 PM

Wrong group CH. The elitists of BOTH parties pimped out Rubio’s ethnicity and used him as the face of this bill. They’re the racists, not the Tea Party people. Deal with it.

conservative pilgrim on July 3, 2013 at 4:23 PM

eaglephin on July 3, 2013 at 4:19 PM

What else has he accomplished? Immigration Deform is the biggest blow to the country.

And hey… stop with name calling. Your boy cheated on his promises to his constituents on Amnesty. You can’t take away that millstone. Haven’t you seen the video’s before the election and after election?

Do you disagree he is a Liar?

antisocial on July 3, 2013 at 4:25 PM

This is nothing but “busy work”. The Democrats control the senate and Rubio’s bill will go nowhere and even if it did Obama would veto the bill. Give it up Rubio, none of your antics will excuse or hide your participation with the gang of 8. You’re spitting into the wind.

rplat on July 3, 2013 at 4:27 PM

By any measure he is one of the most conservative Senators in that body. Name an issue other than immigration reform, jerky.

eaglephin on July 3, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Amnesty is a mechanism to enable Democratic control for decades. It alone is enough. His support for war in Libya, arming al Qaeda in Syria, and the overthrow of Mubarak doesn’t help. The guy is a moron and his stands are meaningless because his word is meaningless. He will be anything you want him to be for a chance at power.

sharrukin on July 3, 2013 at 4:31 PM

Pound sand Marco. You are dead to me.

wkh on July 3, 2013 at 4:36 PM

By any measure he is one of the most conservative Senators in that body. Name an issue other than immigration reform, jerky.

I have a better idea. Why don’t you tell us how many times – exactly – Rubio should be allowed to lie through his teeth and utterly betray a core conservative principle before it’s acceptable to stop supporting him?

2 times?

5 times?

rvastar on July 3, 2013 at 4:38 PM

By any measure he is one of the most conservative Senators in that body. Name an issue other than immigration reform, jerky.
eaglephin on July 3, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Someone correct me if I’m wrong, but I don’t think folks here are concerned if he holds “conservative” views… It’s that he was elected and propped up by the Tea Party while being strongly against amnesty and then… Well… Evolved on that issue.

And some are mad about the lying.

If he had been for amnesty all along perhaps folks wouldn’t be quite as upset.

happytobehere on July 3, 2013 at 4:39 PM

There’s little reason to think Rubio doesn’t genuinely support this, however suspicious the timing of his involvement. He’s spoken in defense of life repeatedly in his speeches. But the cynicism about his motives here — and there’s a lot of it on the right, if the comments to the Headlines item on this story are any yardstick — are inevitable after his betrayal on immigration.

Yup. Rubio would have been in a much stronger position with the base if he had made something like this his lead defining issue in the Senate rather than amnesty. I’ll give him credit for at least having the wherewithal to know that he’s in trouble. Still, is it so much to ask for Republicans to cut their teeth and gain their reputations by advancing conservative legislation, rather than enabling liberal legislation?

Stoic Patriot on July 3, 2013 at 4:42 PM

What’s next? A Senate bill banning RINOism?

Rubio may as well start Tweeting his junk.

faraway

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xblade on July 3, 2013 at 4:44 PM

There is no silver lining with Ricky Ricardo Rubio. If there was any real chance of getting this kind of legislation passed, Marco would be working with his Massa Schumer to sabotage the bill.

wraithby on July 3, 2013 at 4:45 PM

By any measure he is one of the most conservative Senators in that body. Name an issue other than immigration reform, jerky.

eaglephin on July 3, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Why don’t you name some conservative issue that he’s championed? It’s because he’s been in the Senate for, metaphorically, a week and the first big thing he does is to betray the people that got him elected. He has shown his true colors. He was establishment GOP in Florida until he saw the chance to ride the Tea Party to victory, so he betrayed his old masters at the first opportunity, and now he’s done it again. Rubio Serves no one except his own ambition.

DFCtomm on July 3, 2013 at 4:45 PM

I believe that issues related with abortion should be left to the states. Not only will Rubio accomplish the long-term destruction of the U.S. through radical demographic change, the destruction of the cultural glue holding the nation together, and the transformation into a nation with a majority population dependent on the government for welfare should his monstrosity of an immigration bill become law, but through this cynical proposed ban he would weaken federalism should it become law.

Of course it wouldn’t, because Obama would take the bait and veto it in the unlikely event it reached his desk. At any rate, I will not support Rubio over the most rabid leftist for any office no matter the circumstances.

ptolemy on July 3, 2013 at 4:49 PM

ptolemy on July 3, 2013 at 4:49 PM

It’s not allowed to be left to the states. Haven’t you heard? Abortion is an absolute right.

happytobehere on July 3, 2013 at 4:52 PM

I guess I should pay more attention to racially informed people like you.

beatcanvas on July 3, 2013 at 4:18 PM

same here, my wife and I both contributed to Rubio without knowing the other one did (we do that often and compare notes later), nice to know what kind of jackass Capitalist Hog is. He’s got his democrat talking points down doesn’t he?

DanMan on July 3, 2013 at 4:52 PM

He agrees with you on virtually every issue except 1 and now you call him a panderer. Get over yourself, dude.

eaglephin on July 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Well that one is not a small issue, one which Conservatives have distinct and strong opinions. It would be different if he were an apostate on say, some environmental concerns or even gay marriage. And he has proven conclusively that he actually is a panderer, especially with this pivot. We invested a lot of good will in him, trusting him to share our principles and to show Crist for the slimy opportunist he is. We were half-right.

Jeff Weimer on July 3, 2013 at 4:52 PM

Rubio will negotiate withe the dems and settle on a 40 week limit.

oldroy on July 3, 2013 at 4:53 PM

I wouldn’t pee on Rubio if he were on fire. Probably the same for all Pubs. and Dems. Time to pull a 20 million Egyptian rally and demand that all 100 Senators, all 435 Congressmen and the SCOTUS and POTUS and VPPOTUS resign effective immediately. Throw darts at names from the phone book to replace them. Limit them to meeting in session 1 week twice yearly and pay them for only those two weeks. No staff and no offices, one term limit for all the blastards, and 10 yrs. for SCOTUS.

they lie on July 3, 2013 at 4:53 PM

It’s not allowed to be left to the states. Haven’t you heard? Abortion is an absolute right.

happytobehere on July 3, 2013 at 4:52 PM

It also wouldn’t make sense to be left to the states per the equal protection clause, not to mention the explicit mention of a right to life in the 5th and 14th amendments.

Stoic Patriot on July 3, 2013 at 4:57 PM

eaglephin on July 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM

he lied about a core issue, we’re not like you libs

DanMan on July 3, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Well that one is not a small issue….

Jeff Weimer on July 3, 2013 at 4:52 PM

That one issue is also the one that rules them all. The demographic shift that would follow amnesty(s) would ensure that every piece of left wing, wet dream, legislation would be passed.

DFCtomm on July 3, 2013 at 5:03 PM

By any measure he is one of the most conservative Senators in that body. Name an issue other than immigration reform, jerky.

eaglephin

So if his only offense were being a child molester,we should overlook that and continue voting for him…you know, because he’s reliably conservative on everything else?

Get some self-respect. The guy lied to you and millions more and continues to do so to this very day.

xblade on July 3, 2013 at 5:04 PM

It also wouldn’t make sense to be left to the states per the equal protection clause, not to mention the explicit mention of a right to life in the 5th and 14th amendments.

Stoic Patriot on July 3, 2013 at 4:57 PM

But the right to life isn’t an absolute right like the right to kill babies.

happytobehere on July 3, 2013 at 5:16 PM

Mr. Amnesty is just another Rino , fool me once Marco, never again.

Sandybourne on July 3, 2013 at 5:17 PM

The real unseen problem (?) is that the Congress has never legalized abortion or criminalized it either.

The bills making abortion illegal after 20 weeks are also, for the first time, making abortion legal before 20 weeks on the federal level.

J_Crater on July 3, 2013 at 5:25 PM

By any measure he is one of the most conservative Senators in that body. Name an issue other than immigration reform, jerky.
eaglephin on July 3, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Univision.

And Youtube is forever

workingclass artist on July 3, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Rubio will negotiate with the dems and settle on a 40 week limit.

oldroy on July 3, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Ouch!

workingclass artist on July 3, 2013 at 5:35 PM

Does this now make him whole again? I think not! But nice try.

Pardonme on July 3, 2013 at 5:40 PM

But the right to life isn’t an absolute right like the right to kill babies.

happytobehere on July 3, 2013 at 5:16 PM

True, true. Sometimes I forget that the only rights which exist in the Constitution are the ones that aren’t listed. =P

Stoic Patriot on July 3, 2013 at 5:41 PM

It also wouldn’t make sense to be left to the states per the equal protection clause, not to mention the explicit mention of a right to life in the 5th and 14th amendments.

Stoic Patriot on July 3, 2013 at 4:57 PM

The 14th Amendment (through which the 5th Amendment is applied to the states) protects American citizens who have been born or naturalized. Fetuses are neither.

Armin Tamzarian on July 3, 2013 at 5:51 PM

The 14th Amendment (through which the 5th Amendment is applied to the states) protects American citizens who have been born or naturalized. Fetuses are neither.

Armin Tamzarian on July 3, 2013 at 5:51 PM

From the 14th amendment:

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Note that the provision does not state that such a person must be born or a citizen. Were the law to only apply to citizens, then it would have necessitated the term “citizen” be used in place of “person.” However, since they have not, then the unborn are protected in much the same way that foreign tourists are protected.

Stoic Patriot on July 3, 2013 at 6:11 PM

Armin Tamzarian on July 3, 2013 at 5:51 PM

Define “born”.

happytobehere on July 3, 2013 at 6:14 PM

You only knock off five percent for lying, AP? Sounds like Rubio bought you cheap. Deceit like his should rate a 50% reduction at minimum.

mrsknightley on July 3, 2013 at 6:21 PM

This is how they’re attempting to re-vitalize Rubio with Conservatives. He’ll most likely front for some other red-meat type of bills. It’s really diabolical when you consider this was all part of the plan tied up with him being the pasty GOPP face on the Amnesty Bill. What utter contempt they have for us. I hate these people with a passion.

Let’s not let them get away with this.

sartana on July 3, 2013 at 6:26 PM

Hey Rubeo…
Bite me.
You are dead to me….a dead man walking.
I hear you can get a flight to Havana…you should consider it.
III

dirtengineer on July 3, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Some “conservative”. I can’t find anywhere in the Constitution where the power to determine which medical procedures are legal and when was vested in the Federal Government. No doubt there’s some “interstate commerce” weasel words in there.

Socratease on July 3, 2013 at 7:22 PM

This is another Rubio attempt to reestablish his street cred with conservatives. His problem is that most people are not foolish enough to trust him again. As experience shows he’ll change his position to pro-choice if he thinks that will help him politically.

Hera on July 3, 2013 at 7:23 PM

so f!cking what!
you can shut up and go play with chuck u schumer.

mmcnamer1 on July 3, 2013 at 7:27 PM

The base will forgive him one big betrayal on core policy matters, but not two.

Wanna bet?

Solaratov on July 3, 2013 at 8:29 PM

Damn Rubio is wrong on this one too! Leave it to the states – there are going to be liberal states where the consensus will be more time, and why poke them in the eye.

This just makes conservatives look like troglodytes. In short he’s f’ing us all again!

CatoRenasci on July 3, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Nice try Rubio, you fraud.

Ill tell you what, if you put together a “Gang of Eight” and Chuck Schumer goes out and tells all the lefty groups how great this bill is…helps shepherd it through the Senate….and gets it passed with 65+ votes….Ill give you an “atta boy.”

Hey, i might even give you a few points of conservative cred…granted right now you are about 857 pts in the hole, but it will get you going in the right direction.

Lets call this what it is, otherwise…..FACE SAVING.

The only thing worse than a lying, underhanded, two faced, politician….is a lying, underhanded, two faced, politician that patronizes you with empty offers of good will.

Harry Reid will not allow this bill to even come up for a vote, much less, allow it to pass.

That makes this total PR garbage. Another sign what a pathetic hack of a politician Rubio has become….

Its just as insulting as the House voting to repeal Obamacare when they know it wont pass the Senate, meanwhile they have the power to defund it and they dont.

The GOP is a joke. The party is a putrid pile of pompous phony.

Im tired of people who arrogantly think symbolic gestures are an acceptable substitute for character.

alecj on July 3, 2013 at 8:58 PM

Gotta say, this almost seems like one of those “the Onion, or a real headline?” moments. Rubio never came across as very smart to me – more your standard-issue, minimally charming lightweight pol.

But this is laughably transparent in what has become a typical way. Resembles the you-gotta-be-kidding hysterically non-credible “evolutions” of the bumbling affirmative action “president” on marriage redefinition, for example.

It’s all pretty academic, unless some miracle alters the electorate in 2016. The country (“elites”, institutions, upper/middle/lower/welfare classes) is degraded and cretinized beyond repair or recognition. That Shrillary can even be taken seriously as a candidate for anything, after a non-career/career of failure and sleaze – after the last 5 years of non-stop decline, lawlessness, and degradation, unfortunately says it all.

IceCold on July 3, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Is this bill within the senate’s authority?

Amjean on July 3, 2013 at 10:09 PM

I would die before I voted for Rubio. Better to get it over quick than drag it out.

Hog Wild on July 3, 2013 at 11:15 PM

Allahpundit, you make me sick. The guy had a 100% ACU rating going into the Immigration Bill debate. He agrees with you on virtually every issue except 1 and now you call him a panderer. Get over yourself, dude.

eaglephin on July 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Rubio will still have a 100% ACU voting record because the ACU is solidly behind amnesty. The “C” stands for crony capitalism, not conservative.

bw222 on July 3, 2013 at 11:30 PM

Rubio isn’t representing, he’s pandering.

He was all for immigration patriots too, until he was elected and in a position to sell them out.

Pro-lifers shouldn’t trust Rubio. Nobody should.

David Blue on July 3, 2013 at 11:41 PM

Allahpundit, you make me sick. The guy had a 100% ACU rating going into the Immigration Bill debate. He agrees with you on virtually every issue except 1 and now you call him a panderer. Get over yourself, dude.

eaglephin on July 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM

The main reason to call Rubio a panderer is because it’s the truth.

David Blue on July 3, 2013 at 11:43 PM

Allahpundit, you make me sick. The guy had a 100% ACU rating going into the Immigration Bill debate. He agrees with you on virtually every issue except 1 and now you call him a panderer. Get over yourself, dude.

eaglephin on July 3, 2013 at 4:07 PM

Yeah Allahpundit never went after Romney the way he’s going after Rubio.

terryannonline on July 3, 2013 at 11:57 PM

Authoring ‘conservative’ go no where legislation … that ain’t fooling anyone (except borderline dems who will point out to conservatives that “he mostly doesn’t betray you”). Rubio needs to go quiet and just disappear for a few years and hope everyone just forgets about him.

diesirae on July 4, 2013 at 12:42 AM

I thought Jeb wanted amnesty because the illegals were more fertile
Why kill the golden eggs laid by the goose with a voter card

With Rubio’s presence, the bill is certain to gain enormous media attention and thus more national visibility for the issue of limiting late term abortions.

The MSM wants amnesty too. They will probably run with it, obliging Rubio by putting his face on it. Got to cover the sound of Congress betraying the people with amnesty

But win or lose, Republicans and the leaders of the pro-life movement regard the 20-week ban as an especially favorable issue for their cause – and one that might strengthen GOP candidates in the 2014 midterm election…

Naw
Rubio is being staged again. When the amnesty scam is over, people will know Rubio tried to cover it up with a pro life bill. They will know because people like myself will tell them

This wont get the anti amnesty crowd back, but it can be used to pump Obama’s base, which includes a hefty percentage of Catholics who obviously do not want the status quo to change

I suppose by using the discredited stooge to push this, the elites are joking with the ignorant religious clingers. Here Rubio, go out and tell the cross wearing droolers you just got religion. Then come on back and have a cigar.

The only group that might swing would be pundits who think Rubio is cute

Otherwise, he is cooked

entagor on July 4, 2013 at 1:21 AM

Amnesty p*mp yells “Look a squirrel!”

bluesdoc70 on July 4, 2013 at 1:30 AM

Rubio will work overtime the next two years to earn some of it back by pandering furiously to you. social conservatives.

The Bush pattern emerges.

Burke on July 4, 2013 at 2:41 AM

AP – before you forget, you and I have no effective say in who is the candidate. That is for the wealthy backers to decide with their heavy donations of that green stuff. The fact that Rubio has the ethics worse than a weasel doesn’t matter. He is bought and paid for by the money men. And what they want, they get.

{^_^}

herself on July 4, 2013 at 4:56 AM

Why when the case for life is so strong have pro-lifers gotten nowhere in forty years?

(1) Sellout, false-conservative judges, often appointed by sellout, false-conservative politicians.

(2) The Democrats get to import a million voters a year, which is why conservative theories that the pro-abort party would lose though lack of fertility were falsified.

Rubio embodies both those negatives. He’s a sellout and in favor of continuing mass non-white immigration, which means white genocide, in an electorate where 90% of the voters for the theoretically pro-life party are white.

In other words, Rubio wants credit for being pro-life while acting to defeat the cause.

He’s a hypocrite. And so are all the politicians like him, all the “pro-lifers” who have no qualms about guaranteeing that “their” side loses forever.

David Blue on July 4, 2013 at 5:12 AM

AP – before you forget, you and I have no effective say in who is the candidate. That is for the wealthy backers to decide with their heavy donations of that green stuff. The fact that Rubio has the ethics worse than a weasel doesn’t matter. He is bought and paid for by the money men. And what they want, they get.

{^_^}

herself on July 4, 2013 at 4:56 AM

Right.

And these backers are people like Sheldon Adelson, who openly says he is socially liberal.

It is hypocrisy when politicians bought and paid for by social liberals want credit for being socially conservative. They serve who pays them, but they want to be praised by the people they betray.

David Blue on July 4, 2013 at 5:15 AM

Rubio stepped over into the side of sanity for the meantime. He should go further & propose that anyone with such disregard for life as to abort @ 20 weeks should be sterilized.

RdLake on July 4, 2013 at 6:41 AM

Marco FUBARio is sadly mistaken if he thinks that the abortion issue will save his bacon. He has already shown his true colors. The Hispanderer is now attempting to gain some Conservative credibility after abandoning THE Party core principles?
Rot’s o’ruck with that!
And then, there is the fact that this is a State issue. The Feds already mucked it up “unce, tice, fee tines a laby”. (ht: eddie murphy as buttwheat)
Wee Little Marco needs a clue.
Muck Yoo Farco.
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Karl Magnus on July 4, 2013 at 9:07 AM

Pandermonium? The hypocricy of some people is just stunning. Really it is. Rubio has always been a strong pro lifer. He has always talked about immigration reform…he has been a lot more consistent in his political beliefs than Sarah Palin has.And speaking of pandering…isn’t that just what Cruz is doing all the time? And considering the doe eyed adoration from certain quarters, I would say it is working for him.

Right up until he acts like his own man…and then we will see the long knifes come out. They always do.

Terrye on July 4, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Terrye on July 4, 2013 at 1:44 PM

Wow, yer dumb.

squint on July 4, 2013 at 5:39 PM

Interesting connection Rush made about the DC establishment support of amnesty and the negative demographic effects of abortion over the years. It sounded a bit far-fetched, but his point was that lawmakers see the need for more tax payers to fund the commitments already made. Some of them know that abortion has killed millions of potential taxpayers, so we have to import them now. It’s not a moral issue for them, just a fiscal/ demographic concern.

Even democrats didn’t count on losing votes when they are still in the womb (some of them do know that black babies – future democrats – are disproportionately affected by abortion). They assume that state education can ensure young minds who do get born turn into automatons/ media-types/ union members. It’s not a safe bet though.

Final cynical swipe: will Rubio call this his “Pathway to Personhood” bill? Yeah, we’re right behind you, Rubio, like you were for us.

virgo on July 5, 2013 at 12:50 PM

A real conservative wouldn’t have to pander to us at all.Now he will rant and rave about other ussues of importance to conservatives as cover for his mortal sin on amnesty.Just like Lindsey Graham, who huffs and puffs on all things military to assuage the folks back home,Rubio will look for fodder for the next wave of his political ads-proclaiming himself a conservative hero.He knows damn well an abortion ban in the Senate is DOA,just like he knew that amnesty was dead without his support.Treachery!

redware on July 5, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Fair is fair, after a little thought on Rubio’s betrayal, I’ve decided to follow Marco’s moderate and bipartisan lead.

If Chuck Schumer and Barrack Obama both endorse Marco Rubio as their choice for President in 2016, in the spirit of Marco’s bipartisanship only then will I vote for Marco Rubio.

RJL on July 5, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Too little too late Rubio…….you showed us your true colors on AMNESTY.

#Nomarcoever

PappyD61 on July 5, 2013 at 7:11 PM

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