Egyptian army: Morsi is no longer president, constitution is suspended; Update: U.S. aid must be cut if it’s a coup

posted at 3:25 pm on July 3, 2013 by Allahpundit

Abdel Fatah al-Sisi, the head of the military, just finished the announcement as I’m writing this. Fun fact: He was appointed by Morsi himself after Gen. Tantawi, the head of the junta that preceded Morsi, was removed to avert his own possible coup attempt. Morsi must have thought Sisi would be more loyal/subservient. Oops.

Tahrir Square has gone berserk — flags, fireworks, cheering. No more Morsi:

Sisi says they tired to negotiate with Morsi since November, but refused. The constitution has been suspended. A technocratic government, run by the ned of the supreme constitutional court, will run the country until elections can be held. The people are ecstatic.

I’ve seen rumors on Twitter that Mohamed ElBaradei will be appointed interim prime minister but can’t find anything solid on that yet. More fallout:

Updates coming, but wrestle with this for now: Is this a U.S.-approved coup or a U.S.-opposed coup? As of yesterday, the answer was clear. As of this morning, it was … less clear. That’s “leading from behind” in action!

Update: More from Business Insider: “Military chief General Abdel Fattah al-Sisi then called for presidential and parliamentary elections, the establishment of a panel to review the constitution, and a national reconciliation committee that would include youth movements.” Sounds like the next government will be more secular. Will it be more democratic? Does the State Department care at this point?

Update: Interesting news. Sunni clerics blessed the coup?

Egypt’s leading Muslim and Christian clerics and the leader of the liberal opposition alliance Mohamed ElBaradei will jointly present a roadmap for a political transition shortly, state news agency MENA said on Wednesday…

The clerics would be the Grand Sheikh of Cairo’s Al-Azhar institution, a leading authority in the Muslim world, and Pope Tawadros, the head of the Coptic Church and leader of Egypt’s millions of Christians.

There were religious figures onstage with Sisi when he made the announcement but I’m not sure who they were offhand. I believe one was Tawadros; was the head of Al-Azhar there too? I don’t understand at first blush why Sunni clerics would endorse toppling the country’s first Islamist president unless the army somehow made it worth their while. The question now is whether the clerical endorsement will soothe some of the opposition from the Muslim Brotherhood or whether it won’t matter.

Update: It’s not just Egyptians who are enjoying this.

Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, fighting to crush a two-year-old uprising against four decades of rule by him and his late father, said on Wednesday the upheaval in Egypt was a defeat for political Islam.

“Whoever brings religion to use in politics or in favor of one group at the expense of another will fall anywhere in the world,” Assad was quoted as telling the official Thawra newspaper, according to an official Facebook page.

“The summary of what is happening in Egypt is the fall of what is called political Islam.”

Update: No criticism of the coup from the U.S. — yet. Not sure if that helps us answer the approved/opposed question up top.

Update: Morsi has reportedly posted a video on YouTube asserting that he’s still president. I haven’t seen a copy anywhere (yet).

Update: A minor snag in federal law: If this is indeed a “military coup,” then the U.S. government is required to suspend aid. I wonder what sort of Orwellian parsing Obama and the State Department will use to decide that no, technically, this is not a coup after all.


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Chaz706 on July 3, 2013 at 10:37 PM

Sadly, the centuries have not been good for those who dwell in the land of Mohammed.

There is no concept of personal liberty. personal freedom. personal responsibility.

Submission is the required norm.

It is in the Koran. It is codified in Shariah.

This is why Islamic societies (unless they have filthy rich sheiks running them) are almost always dirt poor…and will be.

Yes, establishing a representative democracy in Egypt would be a wonderful goal, but the hard reality is that unlike soo many here in the US have been taught to believe, democracy is the messiest form of governance out there…and representative democracy/ a republic is less messy but messy nonetheless.

Pushing democracy on nations that have no concept, no history or even a vague memory of individual rights, personal property rights, the rule of civil law, the free and unfettered exchanger of ideas, and commodities, value in self, in property and commodities as well, and a healthy respect for any and all who may disagree from time to time…well, it is a cruel hoax.

Other than Israel…where in the Middle East does this representative democracy/republican governance exist?

There is a distinct lack of any of the above rights, freedoms and liberties for one simple reason…Mohammed and the Koran.

Egypt needs stability, foreign investment, food, fuel, tourism…and a messy transition to “democracy” allows for none of those.

Another Nasser, Sadat, or, yes, even a Mubarak seems to be the first prudent step for Egypt.

Rather than have most of the population arguing for the next several years over the color of the planned new wallpaper, the house fire that is destroying Egypt needs to be put out first.

coldwarrior on July 3, 2013 at 11:03 PM

Apply the Palin Rule: let Allah sort it out.

David Blue on July 3, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Obama: “It’s not a coup. A coup is one of them cars. You know, with two or four doors.”

The Rogue Tomato on July 3, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Well I’m not braggin babe so don’t put me down
But I’ve got the bestest revolution in town
When Morsi comes up to me he don’t even try
Cause my general’s got a set of wings he can fly
This is my little deuce coup
You don’t know what I got

The Rogue Tomato on July 3, 2013 at 11:21 PM

America could learn a lot from Egypt.

Axion on July 3, 2013 at 11:22 PM

The reason Morsi is no longer in power is that he didn’t institute an antiquate reign of terror as soon as he took power. Hitler did. The Bolsheviks did. What did Morsi think he was, a Social Democrat?

claudius on July 3, 2013 at 11:51 PM

America could learn a lot from Egypt.

Axion on July 3, 2013 at 11:22 PM

I’d be waving our dear old flag in the streets singing “God Bless America” if our army said “ok, that’s it, time to invoke the last option before you idiots destroy the nation we’re sworn to protect.”

MelonCollie on July 3, 2013 at 11:52 PM

Watch On the street videos from all over Egypt today

An important presence at the army televised address is the Nour party, Egypt’s second-largest Islamist organization, which opposed the Muslim Brotherhood in the post-January 25 period. The party has declared its support for the political transition.
sharrukin on July 3, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Here is a twit off the zerohedge egypt coverage

Ahmed Shihab-Eldin @ ASE Ever notice the striking similarity between #Obama‘s logo, &logo for #Egypt‘s Salafi al Nour party twitpic.com/a17e9p via @JessRadio

I noticed a smashed car in one of the videos with al Nour stickers

Part of the reason the MB won the last elections was because they’d spent a long time working as sort of a charity organization in Egypt, and it was expected they’d be able to lever that experience and help ordinary Egyptians who are destitute and starving. This is similar to how Hamas gained power in Palestinian territories. Their secular opposition was also politically inexperienced and had no time to organize while the MB was already well-organized.Doomberg on July 3, 2013 at 3:53 PM

I agree. Also, Obama signaled thumbs up. And MB has external funding

Obama has supported Morsi (much to his chagrin, I would suppose), and supported the ouster of Mubarak (again, that didn’t turn out real well)… is that what you mean? Why is our f*ckwitted President involved or saying anything at all? Midas on July 3, 2013 at 4:27 PM

I think Obama’s goal all along was to bring the Muslim Brotherhood to power in the Middle East in as many countries as possible.TarheelBe

Obama acts as if he has a connection to the MB. The MB had a position paper for the US created years ago. They maintain a campus presence. Might call them the radical islamist Alinskys. Might be able to get it via Connect the Networks. No time tonight. Obie has zeroed in with this group like they were brothers

I hope the military sticks around. When you have hard line factions who do not accept a pluralist society guns are needed. When I saw the mil copters pulling flags over the crowd and the reaction it was a good sign

It’s the genius of the Egyptian people.. No other country that fall under Islamists rule was able to rid itself of it (let alone in just ONE year). It’s something for the history books .Today is a good day to be an Egyptian.
NYCguy2020 on July 3, 2013 at 5:07 PM

Agree. Watching the Shoebat videos gives you an idea of the will . Like the storming of the Bastille, but the French revolution was driven by class resentment and redistributionism. Egypt, IMHO, the violence was relatively restrained.

Honestly I am watching cowards, and opportunists sit on their thumbs while the USA becomes an oligarchy. I hope at some point my people will have the guts to say ‘STOP’. My prayers to those in Egypt who are seeking a decent world

The American ambassador showed cruel arrogance telling Egyptians they should obey their government. I would react the same as the Egyptians if Putin gave me that advice about my country. She is the same one who would not let US Marines carry loaded weapons at the embassy during Benghazi. Pitch is correct

entagor on July 4, 2013 at 12:49 AM

Pharaoh Obama hardest hit.

profitsbeard on July 4, 2013 at 1:38 AM

On CNN tonight it was explained that Obama would not let a “mere legalism” get in his way. Wow. Just Wow.

Fred 2 on July 4, 2013 at 2:29 AM

Everyone who didn’t see this coming, raise your hand – That’s what I thought. Hey! Let’s now try and do the same thing in Syria! Supporting the Islamist losers is what King Barry DOES.
This is yet another Epic Fail. Stay Tuned … More to come.

The man-child in mom jeans is in so far over his head that when the going gets tough, Obama goes on vacation somewhere, anywhere he can spend mega-millioins of our money whenever he chooses.
What an utter disgrace and embarrassment to the United States.
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Karl Magnus on July 4, 2013 at 7:49 AM

It will be very interesting to watch the treatment of the Egyptian military government and see how it matches up with how the Obama Administration treated the Honduran situation when the President was removed by Supreme Court order, and replaced by a civilian from the same party. Will Obama take a similar line to the new Egyptian rulers?

Blaise on July 4, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Blaise on July 4, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Good question.

What Honduras did to get rid of Zelaya was perfectly legal, and actually demanded by their Constitution. [ BTW, Zelaya's wife is a leading contender for Honduran president today.]

Obama and the rest of the bunch, a very very big ignorant pompous bunch…declared it was a coup…so when Obama mouths off about respecting the rule of law, constitutions, nstitutions of justice and such…he is lying…they arf speed bumps to Barry, nothing more.

As for Egypt…they (Team Obama) keep harping on how Morsi was elected by the people, and we had to listen to the voices of the people on the streets and that stuff.

Well, three maybe four times as many anti-Morsi people were on the streets this week than were on the streets when Morsi was swept into the Presidential Palace, after Obama helped push Mubarak out.

Listen to the voices of the people…the Egyptian Army did…and to save lives…to save Egypt, they did what they were sworn to do…protect Egyptians and Egypt.

But that’s a coup, according to Obama.

Now, looks like Team Obama will get a second bite of the apple, if el Baradei is foisted on the Egyptian people. He’s lifelong Moslem Brotherhood…just wears a more well-tailored suit. To Obama anyone is acceptable so long as they are MB. All others need not apply.

Hope Egypt tells our President to bugger off…and soon.

coldwarrior on July 4, 2013 at 10:16 AM

“If you’re confused about what to do, it’s a sign that your enemy is winning.” ― Toba Beta, Master of Stupidity

Kudos³ to the Egyptian military who immediately dispatched troops to protect every foreign Embassy and Consulate, especially America’s sovereign territories.
Saaaaaaay, I wonder if The “Chief Joints” are as intrepid?
Naaaaaaa
They are nothing more than (p)sychophants and eunuchs serving Øb☭ma.
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Karl Magnus on July 4, 2013 at 10:27 AM

This was not a coup. Rather, it was a reverse coup. A military coup is when the military seizes political power by force, regardless of the will of the people. A reverse coup is when the will of the people seize political power by directing their military to force out illegitimate govt.

Tripwhipper on July 4, 2013 at 10:57 AM

The military raided Al Jazeera!!!! What will happen to Oh-so-bad O’brian? She just signed a contract I believe.

ultracon on July 4, 2013 at 12:20 PM

I’m waiting for the headline that reads:

U.S. Military: Obama is no longer president, constitution is re-instated

jediwebdude on July 4, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Update: A minor snag in federal law: If this is indeed a “military coup,” then the U.S. government is required to suspend aid. I wonder what sort of Orwellian parsing Obama and the State Department will use to decide that no, technically, this is not a coup after all.

The people of Egypt throw out their political leadership, and the only people left with any authority take control and start talking about orderly transfers of power. And that’s a military coup?

I’m beginning to wonder if Ben Shapiro et al. have even seen a picture of what just happened in Egypt.

The people of Egypt did this. The military just stood on the winning side. A revolution, maybe, or an uprising. It’s not the first time the military held the country together while a government was constructed.

Axe on July 4, 2013 at 1:38 PM

I can’t believe this mass uprising is being cast, right now, for the history books as a bloody “military coup,” like a general walked in, shot the president, and took power. It completely erases the bazillions of people in the streets and the work they did.

Axe on July 4, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Axe on July 4, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Purely intentional.

The MSM and the White House are setting the narrative, minimizing the “power of the people” they went nuts about when Obama abandoned Mubarak.

Even after Hillary gave Mubarak America’s assurances of support, we cut him off at the knees…because the “voices of the people demanded it.”

Morsi is Moslem Brotherhood. Moslem Brotherhood was/is our friend…according to our President and the MSM…so anyone who is against the MB is our enemy.

El-Baradei, the new Egyptian sweetheart of the MSM? Still Moslem Brotherhood…lifelong member.

So, controlling the narrative…vital to this Administration…the same one who told Coptics and non-Moslem Brotherhood Egyptians to toe the line and do what Morsi told them to do…or else.

Yeah…”military coup” my butt.

coldwarrior on July 4, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Just watch. These stupid Egyptian imbeciles will elect the Muslim Brotherhood again. Idiots.

Rogervzv on July 4, 2013 at 10:09 PM

I will refer the astute HA readers to the legal, constitutional removal from power of the former president of Honduras, Manuel Zelaya. He wanted to be a Socialist President For Life, and the Honduran Congress acted to remove him from office according to their constitution.

It took less than 24 hours for the U.S. to call that *legal* action a “coup”. U.S. foreign aid was immediately suspended, and Honduras was set up as a pariah in Central America. Legal democratic elections were held in months, but Obama and Clinton never relented.

The country has never fully recovered and is now being overrun by Mexican drug gangs.

What an amazing difference.

Bigurn on July 5, 2013 at 5:52 AM

Bigurn on July 5, 2013 at 5:52 AM

And only nine days after Obama told the people of Iran, after the televised murder of Neda Agha Soltan by Amadinnerjacket’s thugs, after the Iranian people begged for US assistance…Obama says “We do not meddle in the internal affairs of other nations.”

What’s Obama do…nine days later…destroys another nation [Honduras] with word games…

Gotta be a Communist, Marxist, Socialist or Mohammadan these days to get any sort of support from Team Obama.

Ain’t it wunnerful?

coldwarrior on July 5, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Let’s hope the egyptian military can do for their own country what Bush failed to do in Iraq, Afghanistan and in so-called Palestine: make it crystal clear that the west will not abide a theocracy of any kind (i.e. that cannot be in their body of law). These are the things you get to decide after battle.

Just as after WWII Japan and Germany did not get to decide on the conduct of their military (the main issue at the time).

Obama is now confused because “the strong horse” he was backing came up short. This is what happens when you have no principles beyond favoring friends (and undermining the West).

virgo on July 5, 2013 at 12:32 PM

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