Here comes the cavalry: Big-money GOP groups, donors bolster pro-amnesty Republicans

posted at 11:21 am on July 2, 2013 by Allahpundit

Business interests want to expand the supply of cheap labor. Republican leaders want a magic bullet that’ll supposedly start to make them competitive again with Latino voters. No one but no one wants the party’s biggest young Latino star to have his presidential hopes dashed before he’s even begun to run — except of course for the handful of jerks like me who think lying bald-faced to your constituents on a key issue to get elected is a dealbreaker.

It’s time for the Republican establishment to say, “Thanks, Marco.”

Fox News viewers in Florida will see a new commercial in the coming weeks urging them to call Senator Marco Rubio. “Thank him for keeping his promise, and fighting to secure the border,” a narrator says in the ad, which is paid for by the conservative American Action Network.

Another group, Americans for a Conservative Direction, led by former Gov. Haley Barbour of Mississippi and other top Republicans, has been running ads in Iowa lately that implore those watching to “stand with Marco Rubio to end de facto amnesty.”…

[M]any of the most powerful and well-financed forces in the party are moving to provide cover for the Florida senator and Republicans like him who are pushing to overhaul the nation’s immigration system…

As the party assesses its chances for the 2016 presidential campaign, many Republican strategists believe that they need as robust a primary field as possible, with more than just one or two viable potential contenders.

Americans for Prosperity also made Rubio the keynote speaker at its annual conference. He’s not the only one benefiting from this PR bankroll — Paul Ryan, who’ll soon assume the Rubio role in selling amnesty to the House, gets some mentions in ads too — but Rubio’s become the face of reform and therefore has the most to lose as the grassroots backlash builds. I saw some commenters grumbling last night about me insisting repeatedly that we’ll all fall in line come 2016 for Rubio, his betrayal on immigration notwithstanding. Not true: I don’t think all conservatives will fall in line in the primary. He’s lost some of us for good during that round. What I’ve been emphasizing is that there’s no reason to think Rubio’s finished simply because some conservatives will now prefer other Republican candidates. It’s the great mass of low-information voters who have real muscle in the presidential process, and it’s those voters who are most susceptible to barrages of advertising. Rubio’s been counting on that all along. His 2016 strategy vis-a-vis immigration has two parts: (1) Keep up the charm towards conservatives, no matter how ferociously they react to his betrayal, because that’ll minimize the number of righties who are lost to him irretrievably, and (2) count on big-money Beltway Republicans to shower him with cash, now and during the primaries, to woo low-information voters as his reward for carrying their water on such an explosive issue. He’s done a nifty job on both prongs, honestly. In fact, as much as some grassroots conservatives will bristle at the big establishment push for former tea-party darling Marco Rubio, it’ll actually help him with other conservatives who prioritize “electability” over (almost) everything else. Who better to take on the Democrats in 2016 than a guy with pro-amnesty money to burn?

I said last week that Rubio is sort of the Republican Obama insofar as his presidential resume consists mainly of his personal identity, his Hopenchange-y optimism, and his retail skills. Mickey Kaus says I’m analogizing to the wrong Democratic president:

Wherein lies the greatness of Marco Rubio, the shining achievements that overshadow his colossal immigration misadventure? Is he going to bring world peace? Sure, he’s against Obamacare and overregulation and abortion and tax increases.** So are a lot of Republicans, Republicans who haven’t shown a proclivity to go over to the other side when it counts. Has he ever run a state? Is he a brilliant thinker?…

Responding to Carroll on Twitter, I rashly wrote that Rubio was a “Florida pretty boy who doesn’t vet.” Then I realized that Bill Clinton had been an Arkansas pretty boy who didn’t vet. And that didn’t turn out badly (in my book). So what’s the difference between Clinton and Rubio? They’re both liars–good ones. I think it’s that Clinton’s lies tended to be mainly about his personal life. When it came to policy, he was relatively honest, at least compared with his predecessor and successor. He said he wanted to reform welfare, he said why he wanted to reform welfare, and damn if he didn’t reform welfare. Rubio is more in the Bush tradition–voters are too dumb to understand the real policy choices so you have to give them some phony red-meat reasoning.

There’s your slogan for the 2016 primaries. “Marco Rubio: Like Barack Obama and Bill Clinton, all rolled into one.”

In lieu of an exit question, read Ross Douthat’s post about the media’s Strange New Respect for rich Republican donors and Super PACs (including the Koch brothers!), who normally sit somewhere between Hitler and pro-life advocates in the media hierarchy of evildoers, now that they’re pushing immigration reform. WaPo couldn’t refrain yesterday from slobbering over the “pragmatism” of amnesty shills like the Chamber of Commerce, whose “pragmatism” in protecting its economic interests wouldn’t seem so pragmatic to working- and middle-class Americans. How … odd that the press, which normally loathes wealthy Republicans for pushing a right-wing agenda, suddenly thinks that using amnesty to allegedly advance a right-wing agenda is a fine idea. I wonder why.


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Screw the citizens, eh.

stenwin77 on July 2, 2013 at 11:24 AM

Ugh.

Resist We Much on July 2, 2013 at 11:25 AM

Let this bill die in the house.
Bishop/

LeftCoastRight on July 2, 2013 at 11:25 AM

It’s time for the Republican establishment to say, “Thanks, Marco.” fall on your sword for the glories of the new nobility and the great king. For his court must be protected.

You had your chance Rubio. And you blew it.

Gatsu on July 2, 2013 at 11:27 AM

There’s your slogan for the 2016 primaries. “Marco Rubio: Like Barack Obama and Bill Clinton, all rolled into one.”

Sounds pretty good for the American electorate. This sure would be easier if we all just joined the Dems and tried to get a slightly more conservative dem nominated. If you can’t beat ‘em, join ‘em.

happytobehere on July 2, 2013 at 11:28 AM

No one but no one wants the party’s biggest young Latino star to have his presidential hopes dashed before he’s even begun to run — except of course for the handful of jerks like me who think lying bald-faced to your constituents on a key issue to get elected is a dealbreaker.

That tone of yours is downright… unfriendly.

Good for you!

In lieu of an exit question, read Ross Douthat’s post about the media’s Strange New Respect for rich Republican donors and Super PACs (including the Koch brothers!), who normally sit somewhere between Hitler and pro-life advocates in the media hierarchy of evildoers, now that they’re pushing immigration reform.

The media has had a lot of respect for them while they’ve been pushing gay marriage and drug decriminalization too. The left will give a big ol’ pat-on-the-back to those who help them accomplish their ends.

Stoic Patriot on July 2, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Even the WS knows this.

Read this millions – this is what they do to you, while they milk you to pay for them and their sheepleton, from both sides.

God damn all the traitors.

May Rubio choke on that bottle.

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2013 at 11:28 AM

How … odd that the press, which normally loathes wealthy Republicans for pushing a right-wing agenda, suddenly thinks that using amnesty to allegedly advance a right-wing agenda is a fine idea. I wonder why.

Key word – “allegedly”.

Steve Eggleston on July 2, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Leftists and the media are always tyrants, in pursuit of their Utopian pipedreams.

Rs are always crony capitalists and dummies, in big pockets.

YOU are NO different than obama.

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2013 at 11:30 AM

Business interests want to expand the supply of cheap labor. Republican leaders want a magic bullet that’ll supposedly start to make them competitive again with Latino voters. No one but no one wants the party’s biggest young Latino star to have his presidential hopes dashed before he’s even begun to run
===========================================

Ihope,thats not Rubios end run,the Presidential run,for
the immigration deal!

Ugh!

canopfor on July 2, 2013 at 11:31 AM

I’m so tired of nearly all politicians catering towards this special group, that bunch of donors, or… Didn’t our founding fathers start a revolution because of this type of behavior?

sadatoni on July 2, 2013 at 11:31 AM

I was thinking this the other day. What determines who wins is not the conservative, but the low information voter. That is the reason why Bush, McCain, and Romney won their respective nominations. Conservatives hardly matter anymore in politics.

eva3071 on July 2, 2013 at 11:31 AM

Third party..?

d1carter on July 2, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Jesus CHRIST! I didn’t leave Mexico just to have this pandering fool turn the US into Mexico as well.

daddytype on July 2, 2013 at 11:32 AM

Isn’t this the kind of Orwellian sh!t Obama, Pelosi and Reid pull?

WordsMatter on July 2, 2013 at 11:33 AM

Conn Carrol is new to me but he sure is an insider. Clinton said he wanted to reform welfare? He got whacked three times before he signed it as I recall. But like most dems he’s evolved on an issue he never believe in like Obama does.

DanMan on July 2, 2013 at 11:34 AM

There’s your slogan for the 2016 primaries. “Marco Rubio: Like Barack Obama and Bill Clinton, all rolled into one.”
====================================================

****NightMarish ****
(sarc)

Ahem,a Cigar Smok’n Golf Club!!!!
(le double sarc)

canopfor on July 2, 2013 at 11:34 AM

You can only buy so many votes. The donks still won’t vote for him and the gop base will not either.

Blake on July 2, 2013 at 11:34 AM

I’m really about to the point that I don’t care anymore.

I just hope that whatever happens, it ruins the people who have caused us to reach this point.

joekenha on July 2, 2013 at 11:35 AM

The beatings will continue until moral improves…

“You got to get your mind right”….

d1carter on July 2, 2013 at 11:35 AM

He is a fool and a traitor.

81% of the foolish FL Rs think “he’s doing a good job”.

How stupid are you, really?

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Call Marco and tell him thanks a fricken million for doing his part in putting American citizens out of work. They get this thing done and it only makes sense for large companies to hire the provisionals to have cheap labor and a way out of paying Obamacare penalties.

Southernblogger on July 2, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Hold it hold it hold it.

At this point the Republican party has pretty much lost me in either the primary OR the general election. Not necessarily on immigration about which I remain conflicted. But if the only alternative to Obama is “Four more wars” Mccain or “RomneyCare” Mitt, I’ll vote Libertarian. So far as I can tell , the GOP is a hollow shell without principals, and I see no reason to play along with their game and be used any longer.

Wake me up when the Democrat alternative is not Democrat-lite.

Respectfully,

Brian P.

pendell2 on July 2, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Kill Bill.

I gave about $1,000 the last election cycle.
None of it to the RNC.
Not one dime.
I sent it directly to candidates I liked.
Those big donors better have some darn deep pockets because my wallet is closing like a big stone slab in a Mummy movie.
Nobody who votes for amnesty is getting my money.

NeoKong on July 2, 2013 at 11:36 AM

except of course for the handful of jerks like me who think lying bald-faced to your constituents on a key issue to get elected is a dealbreaker.

sympatico amigo? nice

DanMan on July 2, 2013 at 11:36 AM

Allahpundit has been non-stop Rubio-bashing for weeks now.

terryannonline on July 1, 2013 at 11:19 PM

– Genius of HA

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2013 at 11:37 AM

I don’t think that “big money” will save Rubio’s career. He’s going to be opposed in the primary if he runs for re-election. Regardless of his next campaign, his primary opponents will have a lot of ammunition. There are tapes of his promising to do the exact opposite of what he just did. I don’t see how he can overcome that. That didn’t work out too well for Bush the 1st. Although Obama got away with it, he wasn’t depending on Republican voters (the ones with the higher intellects).

cajunpatriot on July 2, 2013 at 11:37 AM

210 showed mney isn’t nough to save you when you pis@ thepeople off.

unseen on July 2, 2013 at 11:37 AM

2010 showed money isn’t enough to save you when you pis@ the people off

unseen on July 2, 2013 at 11:38 AM

And yes, the weasel is a bold faced liar pushing a bill that allows dems to handle border security as they see fit, and selling it as enforcement. Supporting him is saying you love John McCain and want more just like him.

Southernblogger on July 2, 2013 at 11:39 AM

Third party..?

d1carter on July 2, 2013 at 11:32 AM

“But, But; Sarah Palin is a whacko” so say those protecting the status quo elites of the GOP

reddevil on July 2, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Money sure wasn’t on Cruz’s side and the establishment was deep into Dewhurst. Votes count when cheating is held in check.

DanMan on July 2, 2013 at 11:40 AM

Might make the tea partiers a little reluctant to back a candidate again. Y’just never know what the inside looks like till it is too late.

a capella on July 2, 2013 at 11:40 AM

He’s lost some of us for good during that round. What I’ve been emphasizing is that there’s no reason to think Rubio’s finished simply because some conservatives will now prefer other Republican candidates. It’s the great mass of low-information voters who have real muscle in the presidential process, and it’s those voters who are most susceptible to barrages of advertising.

Why are the backers advertising on the talk radio stations that carry Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, etc?

Why waste the money on people, who aren’t LoInfos?

Resist We Much on July 2, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Serf Masters to the rescue. They would like out and out slaves but that’s illegal so they go with the closest substitute and Rubio is happy to take his payoff.

VorDaj on July 2, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Allahpundit has been non-stop Rubio-bashing for weeks now.

terryannonline on July 1, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Good for him. Rubio LIED.

Make Marco Rubio Eat His Own Words

Resist We Much on July 2, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Wake me up when the Democrat alternative is not Democrat-lite.

Respectfully,

Brian P.

pendell2 on July 2, 2013 at 11:36 AM

yeap it’s why I became a big Palin supporter. She is the first Reaganite to come on the stage since Reagan and offers a different direction. Now Cruz and some others like Lee and Paul are offering a different take also. I don’t consider myself a republican anymore. The writings of Thomas Paine and the other founders made me a conservative, Reagan made me a republican and the country club GOPE made me a free agent.

unseen on July 2, 2013 at 11:43 AM

KEEP IT UP GUYS AND CONSERVATIVES WILL LEAVE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

ChunkyLover on July 2, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Republicans – We’ve established what you are, now we are just settling on a price. Sadly, most of you will argue for the lesser-evil when Rubio or Jeb become the GOP candidate.

Panther on July 2, 2013 at 11:43 AM

Judas Rubio will never get my vote.

unseen on July 2, 2013 at 11:44 AM

If the House Republicans approve amnesty, it’s time to leave the GOP and start a third party (hopefully with Sarah Palin’s help).

Once again tens of millions of rank and file Republicans will be ignored to please the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, other corporatists and Grover Norquist, none of whom give a damn about the future of this country.

If Grover Norquist and the Chamber of Commerce are so important, let them collect enough votes to elect a Republican President with conservatives sitting it out.

bw222 on July 2, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Contemplate this – in the US and in Europe there are huge movements afoot, in the open, very transparently, to promote abortion, to provide free contraceptives, to even kill born babies…and soon in the US, as is the case in Europe, enact death panels in obama’care’… but illegal immigration is encouraged galore.

Why?

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2013 at 11:44 AM

The Koch brothers can donate all the money they want to pro-amnesty GOP pols but they still have only two votes between them.

My family, all opposed to amnesty and all Republicans, can deliver 8 votes. Who wins?

Charlemagne on July 2, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Might make the tea partiers a little reluctant to back a candidate again. Y’just never know what the inside looks like till it is too late.

a capella on July 2, 2013 at 11:40 AM

That’s a feature, not a bug. They hate the Tea Party more than the Proggies do.

Remember 2002-06?

ebrown2 on July 2, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Meanwhile Hannity still humping Rubio’s leg, Limbaugh seems ambivalent and Levin throws an occasion puff ball at Rubio.

VorDaj on July 2, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Jesus CHRIST! I didn’t leave Mexico just to have this pandering fool turn the US into Mexico as well.

daddytype on July 2, 2013 at 11:32 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG7CB3xsTS8

davidk on July 2, 2013 at 11:45 AM

One. More. Time.

Border Security YES. Reform the broken system YES.

Pass the Senate Bill NO!!!!!!!!!!

natasha333 on July 2, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Another group, Americans for a Conservative Direction, led by former Gov. Haley Barbour of Mississippi and other top Republicans, has been running ads in Iowa lately that implore those watching to “stand with Marco Rubio to end de facto amnesty.”

That group has been running ads in upstate New York. I don’t think Rubio can win with establishment Republicans only. I think those days of establishment heft are gone. I don’t see how he wins a general.

antisocial on July 2, 2013 at 11:46 AM

KEEP IT UP GUYS AND CONSERVATIVES WILL LEAVE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY

ChunkyLover on July 2, 2013 at 11:43 AM

most have already “left in spirit” we are just looking for someplace else to go. Right now we have been voting for the lesser of two evils for a generation. When we have someone to vote FOR, the GOP is a dead party.

unseen on July 2, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Third party..?

d1carter on July 2, 2013 at 11:32 AM

“But, But; Sarah Palin is a whacko” so say those protecting the status quo elites of the GOP

reddevil on July 2, 2013 at 11:40 AM

And irrelevant.

davidk on July 2, 2013 at 11:46 AM

I didn’t leave the Republican party. The Republican party left me.

njrob on July 2, 2013 at 11:46 AM

O’Reilly is totally for illegal immigration.

Britt Hume is too.

All of Faux is for the travesty to the legal citizens of the USA.

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Another group, Americans for a Conservative Direction, led by former Gov. Haley Barbour of Mississippi and other top Republicans, has been running ads in Iowa lately that implore those watching to “stand with Marco Rubio to end de facto amnesty.”

can’t someone sue these people for false advertisement? that would be like Malborro saying smoking is healthy.

unseen on July 2, 2013 at 11:47 AM

There’s your slogan for the 2016 primaries. “Marco Rubio: Like Barack Obama and Bill Clinton, all rolled into one.”

Yep. And once again we Conservatives will “stay home”. WE are sick and tired of voting for the LOC (Least Objectionable Candidate).
Serve up another wimp like Mittens Romney and the GOP is finished.
Period.
~(Ä)~

Karl Magnus on July 2, 2013 at 11:47 AM

If Grover Norquist and the Chamber of Commerce are so important, let them collect enough votes to elect a Republican President with conservatives sitting it out.

bw222 on July 2, 2013 at 11:44 AM

Norquist is likely a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.

VorDaj on July 2, 2013 at 11:48 AM

I don’t see how he wins a general.

antisocial on July 2, 2013 at 11:46 AM

He won’t it will be Mitt allover again.

unseen on July 2, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Immigration Reform And The Do-Nothings

SB 877…

On the one hand, Section 5(b)(1):

Not later than 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Secretary shall establish a strategy, to be known as the ‘Southern Border Fencing Strategy’ …

On the other hand, Section 5(b)(5):

Notwithstanding paragraph (1), nothing in this subsection shall require the Secretary to install fencing…

A ‘strategy’ for doing ‘nothing.’

Perfect.

This is such typical, SOP bullshit for the government.

Resist We Much on July 2, 2013 at 11:50 AM

And irrelevant.

davidk on July 2, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Well, please go on.

reddevil on July 2, 2013 at 11:50 AM

. I saw some commenters grumbling last night about me insisting repeatedly that we’ll all fall in line come 2016 for Rubio, his betrayal on immigration notwithstanding. Not true: I don’t think all conservatives will fall in line in the primary.

I don’t think I’m the only one who’s sick and tired of voting for the lesser of two evils. I was a hair away from not voting for Romney, but in the end, yes I did vote Romney, and before him McCain. Palin made that easier, and I kind of thought Ryan was mostly a conservative.

Not this time. Amnesty is orders of magnitude worse than anything they’ve done before. The issue is not the primary. Though I would be very happy to see a real conservative win that, I don’t see it happening. There is no way I’m going along to get along again. Not going to happen.

If the Republicans disgust me enough, I may even vote for the Democrat just to vote for the lesser of two liars.

Fenris on July 2, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Rubio’s friends in Syria beheaded a Catholic Priest.

VorDaj on July 2, 2013 at 11:51 AM

If the Republicans disgust me enough, I may even vote for the Democrat just to vote for the lesser of two liars.

Fenris on July 2, 2013 at 11:50 AM

I’m thinking more and more of doing that. It would be like staying home twice.

VorDaj on July 2, 2013 at 11:52 AM

Why are the backers advertising on the talk radio stations that carry Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin, etc?

Why waste the money on people, who aren’t LoInfos?

Resist We Much on July 2, 2013 at 11:41 AM

Because that’s the audience they need to get. Even if they can peel of a couple of percentage points… That will win it for their boys.

antisocial on July 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM

what I find disgusting is the elites thinking talk radio listeners are this stupid. They are not mind numb robots. You can put up all the ads you want to this group but it won’t change their minds. Talk radio listeners are the high information voters. The GOP elite are trying to use false ads on high information voters. I can tell you how that turns out.

unseen on July 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM

If Grover Norquist and the Chamber of Commerce are so important, let them collect enough votes to elect a Republican President with conservatives sitting it out.

bw222 on July 2, 2013 at 11:44 AM

They tried that in 2012. Didn’t work.

totherightofthem on July 2, 2013 at 11:53 AM

Meanwhile Hannity still humping Rubio’s leg, Limbaugh seems ambivalent and Levin throws an occasion puff ball at Rubio.

VorDaj on July 2, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Levin is too proud to say he was wrong, but he is starting to become more negative about Rubio. Hannity is nothing more than a mouthpiece for the GOP establishment (and he has the IQ of a brick).

bw222 on July 2, 2013 at 11:54 AM

The only law I can agree with is this: Anyone out of the 11 mil we keep on hearing about who can’t support themselves and will just be on welfare DOESN’T GET TO BE A CITIZEN. When I showed up and was put through the process there was a very sensible question: “Do you have the means to support yourself?”. Aren’ there enough moochers here that you need to import more?

daddytype on July 2, 2013 at 11:54 AM

The Koch brothers can donate all the money they want to pro-amnesty GOP pols but they still have only two votes between them.

My family, all opposed to amnesty and all Republicans, can deliver 8 votes. Who wins?

Charlemagne on July 2, 2013 at 11:45 AM

Ummm, the tens of millions of undocumented Democrats?

Fenris on July 2, 2013 at 11:54 AM

http://clashdaily.com/2013/07/recall-rubio-floridians-have-had-their-fill-of-rino-rubio/

davidk on July 2, 2013 at 11:47 AM

See also:

UPDATE: The petition site is now showing that this petition is supported by the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee. While I agree with the sentiment of replacing Marco Rubio, I believe that you should know who is tied to this petition. I was not aware of this at the time of the article.

http://freedomoutpost.com/2013/06/floridians-move-to-recall-marco-rubio/#ixzz2XtlnE7FD

davidk on July 2, 2013 at 11:55 AM

The other Embarrassment of the Land returns home.

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2013 at 11:34 AM

And, Michelle is whining about having to live in a ‘prison.’

1. You’d think that she’d know the difference after visiting Mandela’s prison cell where he spent 27 years.

2. Who knew Mooch was a Muslim?

After all, Muslims are the only prisoners anywhere that get to dictate dietary restrictions to their jailers, which are then imposed on the rest of the population.

Resist We Much on July 2, 2013 at 11:55 AM

I saw some commenters grumbling last night about me insisting repeatedly that we’ll all fall in line come 2016 for Rubio, his betrayal on immigration notwithstanding. Not true: I don’t think all conservatives will fall in line in the primary.

A large % that fell inline in 2012 like myself did so only because Obama was on the ticket. If the dems put up a somewhat American candidate this time. I have no problem staying home. Obama was and is the worse POTUS has had. It was needed to oust him. If Bill Clinton was running Mitt would have lost by double digits in EVERY state.

unseen on July 2, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Facebook’s Zuckerberg is funding an org. with a deceiving name in it. It contains “conservative”. They run deceiving pro-illegal-immigration ads, incl. on Faux, claiming to be from a conservative group supporting the travesty.

Be very careful.

Goebbels on steroids is upon you, from both sides.

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2013 at 11:56 AM

And irrelevant.

davidk on July 2, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Well, please go on.

reddevil on July 2, 2013 at 11:50 AM

And a quitter.

davidk on July 2, 2013 at 11:56 AM

The GOP leadership, perhaps rightly, assumes that they can discount, betray, mock, and humiliate the base, for the base will never ignore the general election fear-mongering and vote Dem in droves to punish the GOP leadership.

One election might change that.

kunegetikos on July 2, 2013 at 11:56 AM

O’Reilly is totally for illegal immigration.

Britt Hume is too.

All of Faux is for the travesty to the legal citizens of the USA.

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2013 at 11:46 AM

Sarah Palin is the only one at Faux News that isn’t following Roger Ailes and Rupert Murdoch’s pro-amnesty marching orders.

bw222 on July 2, 2013 at 11:56 AM

I think it’s time for some muscle flexing in 2014. I for one am through assuming anything with R next to their name is OK unless proven otherwise.

Now it’s the other way. And very few (none in Minnesota) have passed that threshold with me.

MNHawk on July 2, 2013 at 11:56 AM

No one but no one wants the party’s biggest young Latino star to have his presidential hopes dashed before he’s even begun to run — except of course for the handful of jerks like me who think lying bald-faced to your constituents on a key issue to get elected is a dealbreaker.

Second look at Charlie Crist?

JetBoy on July 2, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Amigos – comrades – muchachos – friends, we are gathered here as an edifice of the great glory that is now vanishing befoe our very eyes and the intuitive feeling, based on the assumption as Mencken once proclaimed, “He who underestimates the American public will never go broke.” This is merely a small indication to behold and to perceive that which has gone way into the behind and to that which might project .. I mean go forward … out of the mouth … i mean .. the future…we’ve got to rip up the constitution so we can rip down those outdated and inconvenient borders! This is the main detergent … I mean main deterrent upon which we have gathered our strength and to all the others who say, “What the hell did that get?” – We don’t yet know.

Clearly today we must all be gravely aware that political expediency and latino ethnicity take precedence over rule of law and constitutional procedure. However you say – WTF ! – what the Hell does this mean… in relation to the tabulation whereby we must finally realize that the great reconquesta story is now being rehearsed before our very eyes, in the rise of Marco Rubio… indicating that only a two-faced … I mean a fork-faced … I mean a bi-faced … I mean a bi-polar … I mean a bi-lingual hombre can receive…the award for reconquesta, unlike Kenyan Hussein Obama whose reconquesta plans don’t drink water.

And as Miller once said in one of his great novels- what did he … that language is only necessary when bilingual communication is endangered. And you sit there bewildered, and Pinter who went further said “It is not the lack of communication, but fear of communication.” That’s what the damn thing is that we fear – communication – especially all the Spanish communication that’s even on a box of Wheaties now. Damn it! And through all this Mark Levin and Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity have attained, and have created for themselves serenity, and it is only their cognitive dissonance that is keeping them alive in their mindless absurdity.

Senors y Senoritas, Ladies and Gentlemen, Peeps and Peepettes, Rulers and Ruled. The time will soon come when a first world America will outlive its usefulness. Marx, either Groucho or Karl, I can’t remember which, maybe it was both or maybe it was Harpo, once said that America is the opiate of the people. I say that when America outlives its usefulness and becomes a majority Mexican nation , then opium…will be the opiate…Ahh that’s not a bad idea… we are going to need that badly especially when all the booze runs out …

And the completely and totally unbiased and bi-partisan panel, has determined to give the grand prize to Marco Rubio for his EARNESTY’S RAINBOW. Now EARNESTY’S RAINBOW is a token of this man’s genius…he told me so himself and repeatedly … that he could change perceptions by calling his plan for knocking down those pesky borders EARNESTY …in other words, he could have been a little more specific, but rather than allude to an articulation of the mundane, he has come to the conclusion that brevity is the importance of our nation’s shallow and selfish first world existence. God damn!

Marco Rubio’s . EARNESTY’S RAINBOW – is a small contribution to a certain degree, since there are over seven billion people in the world today. 315 of them … million live in the United States which is a very, very small amount compared to those who will be miserable and enslaved and dying elsewhere…Well, I say that you will be on the road to new horizons, for we who live in a society where citizenship is a commodity and a politician can become a TV personality and very wealthy, it’s not easy to conform if you have any morality at all…I, I, I said that myself many years ago…

But I do want to thank la Raza…I mean the RNC … I mean the DNC and it’s subsidiary the RNC, the organization for the $500 in affirmative action latino scholarships they’ve given out…this morning they took in over $5,000,000, but they do have expenses for their brilliant consultants you know, and I think that I have another appointment. I certainly hope so. I would like to stay here, but for the sake of brevity I, I must leave. I do want to thank you, and I want to thank the founding fathers for all the sacrifices they made however much they were in vain but now, most of all, and looking into the failure … I mean the future .. I want to thank Marco Rubio – acting el Presidenta of Juarez la Raza Mexiamerica and Paul Ryan – acting First Lady of Juarez la Raza Mexiamerica and also Mr. Obama – acting Pharaoh and Peeping Tom … I mean Spy Master and Drone Commander of the World – and also I want to thank Professor Irwin Corey and again, thank you. …
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RasThavas on July 2, 2013 at 11:58 AM

Anybody still think the Republicans are on the side of Americans?

Dan_Yul on July 2, 2013 at 11:58 AM

Second look at Charlie Crist?

JetBoy on July 2, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Rubio will run to the left of him to win again…or he’ll have to run with Hillary.

Too bad that Floridians are dumb. He still has an 81% approval rating among the Rs in FL. They like to be destroyed by him and his charlatans.

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2013 at 11:59 AM

After all, Muslims are the only prisoners anywhere that get to dictate dietary restrictions to their jailers, which are then imposed on the rest of the population.

Resist We Much on July 2, 2013 at 11:55 AM

And exercise equipment: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/international/fitmo_ZMCwnFHLCgWlWCIcgmgZqN

davidk on July 2, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Second look at Charlie Crist?

JetBoy on July 2, 2013 at 11:57 AM

ther eis no difference between the two at this point. I can easily see Rubio switching parties at some point.

unseen on July 2, 2013 at 11:59 AM

He won’t it will be Mitt allover again.

unseen on July 2, 2013 at 11:48 AM

Agree 100%. I have a few candidates I can support with time and money… Ted Cruz, Rick Perry, Scott Walker, Mike Lee…. any combination will be good.

If it is the usual liars, may as well vote democrat to p!ss on the establishment twice (like 2 absentee votes)

antisocial on July 2, 2013 at 11:59 AM

I’m going to re-register as an independent tomorrow. Done done done with the Gay Other Politicians.

kirkill on July 2, 2013 at 11:59 AM

And a quitter.

davidk on July 2, 2013 at 11:56 AM

OK, I get it you hate Sarah Palin; Is she wrong?

reddevil on July 2, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Facebook’s Zuckerberg is funding an org. with a deceiving name in it. It contains “conservative”. They run deceiving pro-illegal-immigration ads, incl. on Faux, claiming to be from a conservative group supporting the travesty.

Be very careful.

Goebbels on steroids is upon you, from both sides.

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2013 at 11:56 AM

Americans for a Conservative Direction has numerous RINO front men – Haley Barbour, Dan Senor, Rob Jesper and Sally Bradshaw, all of whom would screw the country if they could make a buck off it.

bw222 on July 2, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Rubio’s been counting on that all along. His 2016 strategy vis-a-vis immigration has two parts: (1) Keep up the charm towards conservatives, no matter how ferociously they react to his betrayal, because that’ll minimize the number of righties who are lost to him irretrievably, and (2) count on big-money Beltway Republicans to shower him with cash, now and during the primaries, to woo low-information voters as his reward for carrying their water on such an explosive issue. He’s done a nifty job on both prongs, honestly. In fact, as much as some grassroots conservatives will bristle at the big establishment push for former tea-party darling Marco Rubio, it’ll actually help him with other conservatives who prioritize “electability” over (almost) everything else.

Good God, are we really going to be subjected to the exact same losing playbook yet again in 2016? The “most electable” candidate mentality saddled us with McCain and Romney who both did poorly(relatively speaking) with the base. Hell, Romney even won indie voters by 5% yet still managed to lose the election by several points.

I guess the GOP is going to have to subject us to a couple more terms of Democrat rule before they finally wise up(or give way to a third party). They still don’t get it.

Doughboy on July 2, 2013 at 11:59 AM

No one but no one wants the party’s biggest young Latino star to have his presidential hopes dashed before he’s even begun to run — except of course for the handful of jerks like me who think lying bald-faced to your constituents on a key issue to get elected is a dealbreaker.

Second look at Charlie Crist?

JetBoy on July 2, 2013 at 11:57 AM

LMAO!!

You were his number one fan a few years back.

ToddPA on July 2, 2013 at 11:59 AM

Levin has said that he was lied to by Reconquista Rubio.

For those that think Hannity, of whom I am no fan, is still pumping Reconquista Rubio, I suggest that you compare his first interview with Marco on immigration reform with the one that he conducted last week with Paul Ryan.

Ryan was reduced to pretzelising. ‘We’re border control first, but we can’t control the border without first legalising 11 million people, who are living in the shadows. We have to know who is in the country before we act to stop more of them from entering.’

Yeah, that makes sense. /

Resist We Much on July 2, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Third party is inevitable. Too much stank on the RNC to resurrect it. The corpse is decomposing.

CycloneCDB on July 2, 2013 at 12:00 PM

After all, Muslims are the only prisoners anywhere that get to dictate dietary restrictions to their jailers, which are then imposed on the rest of the population.

Resist We Much on July 2, 2013 at 11:55 AM

They rejected American-made exercise equipment.

Army fools comply.

Hang them on muzzie-made ropes or let them starve.

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Shoot me. Shoot me now.

Or at least point me in the direction of Palin when she heads for the exit.

apostic on July 2, 2013 at 12:02 PM

“No one but no one wants the party’s biggest young Latino star to have his presidential hopes dashed before he’s even begun to run”

Republicans aren’t supposed to be for race or class warfare. I don’t care for white, yellow, brown, black etc… as long as the nominee is an American who cares for America.

antisocial on July 2, 2013 at 12:02 PM

If the Republicans disgust me enough, I may even vote for the Democrat just to vote for the lesser of two liars.

Fenris on July 2, 2013 at 11:50 AM

Which is what the user here named Honda something did in 2012, and gets unending grief for it. I didn ‘t vote for Obama and never could, but I see his point. It’s the same one you’re making.

The GOP’s dead anyway, folks.

ddrintn on July 2, 2013 at 12:03 PM

OK, I get it you hate Sarah Palin; Is she wrong?

reddevil on July 2, 2013 at 11:59 AM

I do find it funny that the only person on the national stage that consistently falls right down the line on position after position with conservatives and has the character, morals and bal@s do implement our agenda once elected is not “hated” by many with the same objectives. I guess those ar ethe people these ads are directed at. After all they “fell” for the false ads about Palin I suppose they will fall for these ads also.

unseen on July 2, 2013 at 12:03 PM

I said last week that Rubio is sort of the Republican Obama insofar as his presidential resume consists mainly of his personal identity, his Hopenchange-y optimism, and his retail skills.

One important difference is that Rubio will win two fewer presidential elections in his lifetime than Obama.

J.S.K. on July 2, 2013 at 12:04 PM

Tom Bevan did a piece at RealClearPolitics showing that Senators do not fair well in presidential contests if they have not been a VP or Governor. I think Rubio, Rand Paul, Ted Cruz and Paul Ryan, all need some executive experience boost to be credible to many voters. Their voting records, Bevan also pointed out, are a liability as well and we see that already with these four. I agree with Bevan’s point that a successful governor would be the likeliest bet to win in 2016. My feeling is a governor would be able to hang a lack of executive experience on Hillary and make it stick much better than a legislator.

KW64 on July 2, 2013 at 12:04 PM

didn’t Romney’s loss show that big money won’t make conservative voters turn out??

also, I think we all know big business wants the cheap labor and that’s why they’re pushing this. so how does that make the dems feel?? knowing that “big business” wants to take advantage of these poor, innocent people? aren’t they the party of the disadvantaged? of course the dems are in it too, they’re getting just as much money from “big business” as the repubs, but shouldn’t their leftist nut job constituents care about this?

jetch on July 2, 2013 at 12:05 PM

The GOP’s dead anyway, folks.

ddrintn on July 2, 2013 at 12:03 PM

Yes, let them die a million slow deaths.

But, never, never, never will there be an excuse to vote for obama.

Stay home or vote for your neighbor or your dog. Anything is more noble.

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2013 at 12:06 PM

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