Here comes the cavalry: Big-money GOP groups, donors bolster pro-amnesty Republicans

posted at 11:21 am on July 2, 2013 by Allahpundit

Business interests want to expand the supply of cheap labor. Republican leaders want a magic bullet that’ll supposedly start to make them competitive again with Latino voters. No one but no one wants the party’s biggest young Latino star to have his presidential hopes dashed before he’s even begun to run — except of course for the handful of jerks like me who think lying bald-faced to your constituents on a key issue to get elected is a dealbreaker.

It’s time for the Republican establishment to say, “Thanks, Marco.”

Fox News viewers in Florida will see a new commercial in the coming weeks urging them to call Senator Marco Rubio. “Thank him for keeping his promise, and fighting to secure the border,” a narrator says in the ad, which is paid for by the conservative American Action Network.

Another group, Americans for a Conservative Direction, led by former Gov. Haley Barbour of Mississippi and other top Republicans, has been running ads in Iowa lately that implore those watching to “stand with Marco Rubio to end de facto amnesty.”…

[M]any of the most powerful and well-financed forces in the party are moving to provide cover for the Florida senator and Republicans like him who are pushing to overhaul the nation’s immigration system…

As the party assesses its chances for the 2016 presidential campaign, many Republican strategists believe that they need as robust a primary field as possible, with more than just one or two viable potential contenders.

Americans for Prosperity also made Rubio the keynote speaker at its annual conference. He’s not the only one benefiting from this PR bankroll — Paul Ryan, who’ll soon assume the Rubio role in selling amnesty to the House, gets some mentions in ads too — but Rubio’s become the face of reform and therefore has the most to lose as the grassroots backlash builds. I saw some commenters grumbling last night about me insisting repeatedly that we’ll all fall in line come 2016 for Rubio, his betrayal on immigration notwithstanding. Not true: I don’t think all conservatives will fall in line in the primary. He’s lost some of us for good during that round. What I’ve been emphasizing is that there’s no reason to think Rubio’s finished simply because some conservatives will now prefer other Republican candidates. It’s the great mass of low-information voters who have real muscle in the presidential process, and it’s those voters who are most susceptible to barrages of advertising. Rubio’s been counting on that all along. His 2016 strategy vis-a-vis immigration has two parts: (1) Keep up the charm towards conservatives, no matter how ferociously they react to his betrayal, because that’ll minimize the number of righties who are lost to him irretrievably, and (2) count on big-money Beltway Republicans to shower him with cash, now and during the primaries, to woo low-information voters as his reward for carrying their water on such an explosive issue. He’s done a nifty job on both prongs, honestly. In fact, as much as some grassroots conservatives will bristle at the big establishment push for former tea-party darling Marco Rubio, it’ll actually help him with other conservatives who prioritize “electability” over (almost) everything else. Who better to take on the Democrats in 2016 than a guy with pro-amnesty money to burn?

I said last week that Rubio is sort of the Republican Obama insofar as his presidential resume consists mainly of his personal identity, his Hopenchange-y optimism, and his retail skills. Mickey Kaus says I’m analogizing to the wrong Democratic president:

Wherein lies the greatness of Marco Rubio, the shining achievements that overshadow his colossal immigration misadventure? Is he going to bring world peace? Sure, he’s against Obamacare and overregulation and abortion and tax increases.** So are a lot of Republicans, Republicans who haven’t shown a proclivity to go over to the other side when it counts. Has he ever run a state? Is he a brilliant thinker?…

Responding to Carroll on Twitter, I rashly wrote that Rubio was a “Florida pretty boy who doesn’t vet.” Then I realized that Bill Clinton had been an Arkansas pretty boy who didn’t vet. And that didn’t turn out badly (in my book). So what’s the difference between Clinton and Rubio? They’re both liars–good ones. I think it’s that Clinton’s lies tended to be mainly about his personal life. When it came to policy, he was relatively honest, at least compared with his predecessor and successor. He said he wanted to reform welfare, he said why he wanted to reform welfare, and damn if he didn’t reform welfare. Rubio is more in the Bush tradition–voters are too dumb to understand the real policy choices so you have to give them some phony red-meat reasoning.

There’s your slogan for the 2016 primaries. “Marco Rubio: Like Barack Obama and Bill Clinton, all rolled into one.”

In lieu of an exit question, read Ross Douthat’s post about the media’s Strange New Respect for rich Republican donors and Super PACs (including the Koch brothers!), who normally sit somewhere between Hitler and pro-life advocates in the media hierarchy of evildoers, now that they’re pushing immigration reform. WaPo couldn’t refrain yesterday from slobbering over the “pragmatism” of amnesty shills like the Chamber of Commerce, whose “pragmatism” in protecting its economic interests wouldn’t seem so pragmatic to working- and middle-class Americans. How … odd that the press, which normally loathes wealthy Republicans for pushing a right-wing agenda, suddenly thinks that using amnesty to allegedly advance a right-wing agenda is a fine idea. I wonder why.


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Can.I.be.in.the.middle on July 2, 2013 at 1:39 PM

Always on topic. Today, if you care to think, most all things are on the same topic. Wake the hell up.

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2013 at 2:16 PM

She said it in Africa… where Mandela spent 27 years in a hard labor dungeon.

Schadenfreude on July 2, 2013 at 1:26 PM

Let that sink in, Can.I.Haz.Cheezburger.

And, you’re an idiot if you think the GOP establishment funded the Tea Party.

Fallon on July 2, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Not just in Africa. On a pleasure trip which is costing us $100 Million dollars.

Fenris on July 2, 2013 at 2:13 PM

With Reggie Love taggin along to keep Barry company.

http://beforeitsnews.com/obama/2013/07/is-reggie-love-obamas-former-body-man-travelling-on-the-taxpayer-dime-to-south-africa-2453250.html

*blech*

workingclass artist on July 2, 2013 at 2:24 PM

Funny how being a “bald-faced liar” is a deal breaker for Allah when it comes to Rubio but I don’t remember him saying such thing about Romney or McCain. Can you all honestly tell me that Rubio is anymore of a liar than ANY politician? Good lor Romney was the fakest.

terryannonline on July 2, 2013 at 1:43 PM

The difference is that Romney acknowledged, at least, that he had flip-flopped on many issues. People knew what they were getting with him. In fact, I destroyed him on his flip-flops back in December 2011 in the kickoff of my ‘Know Your Candidates’ series.

Rubio criticised Reagan and said that amnesty was wrong and led to millions of more illegal immigrants. Rubio said that he was a ‘borders first, legalisation later, maybe’ supporter. He now will put the interests of political power, Big Business profits, and racial classes over those of his base and what is in the best interest of America. The Tea Party got Rubio elected and he has thrown it under the bus.

Romney lost because he couldn’t get the white, blue collar & Perot voters bothered enough to vote for him. He didn’t lose because of Hispanics, who actually had lower a lower voter participation rate in 2012 than they did in 2008. In fact, Obama beat Romney with the FLORIDA CUBAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY, which, historically, vote for Republicans over Democrats.

When was the last time Republicans won the Hispanic vote in a Presidential election?

The first modern Republican to court the Latino vote was Eisenhower in the 1950s. A moderate, Eisenhower, who benefited
from his role as Allied Commander, the sizable number of Latino voters were veterans, and his personal history when he lived in Texas: YET, HISPANICS VOTED FOR ADLAI STEVENSON NOT ONCE, BUT TWICE.

They voted for Kennedy in 1960 by a staggering 85-15%.

In 1964, 90% of the Mexican-American vote and 86% of the Puerto Rican vote went to Johnson.

In 1968, Humphrey received 87% of the Hispanic vote.

They didn’t even vote for Nixon in his 1972 landslide.

And, Hispanics have voted for Democrats since.

Did Hispanics reward Republicans after the 1986 amnesty?

Did they reward McCain of amnesty fame?

No, because a whole lot – and maybe a majority – of Hispanics are NOT ‘natural conservatives.’ For one example, they – not African-Americans, are the biggest supporters of Obamacare.

This whole ‘magic bullet’ approach to politics is not nearly as clear or certain as some people want to believe. Constantly, The Left blames the so-called ‘Southern Strategy’ for the defeats of Humphrey and McGovern, the ‘whitening’ of the Republican party, and the ‘darkening’ of the Democratic Party.

That’s BS. The last time African-Americans voted for a Republican President was in 1928 when they helped elect Herbert Hoover. By 1940, whites were beginning to abandon the Democratic Party over the New Deal. And, the reason that McGovern and Humphrey lost – HUGE ACROSS THE COUNTRY – were because they were liberal ‘peaceniks’ supported by the radical New Left. The country rejected the radicalism and violence by voting for a ‘tough on crime’ Nixon in 1968 and, well, Nixon, period, in 1972.

Assuming that voting for the fundamental transformation of the country with immigration reform, which is what happened after the passages of the 1965 and 1986 immigration reforms, the former passed by a liberal Democrat and the latter passed by a conservative Republican, is going to be a winner is neglectful of history.

Resist We Much on July 2, 2013 at 2:25 PM

Rubio, the water bottle boy, certainly did carry the water for Schumer and friends.

mobydutch on July 2, 2013 at 2:26 PM

The problem is that a lot of Republicans sound like they’re still obsessed with the idea of Marco Rubio rather than the reality which frankly sucks. They’re projecting what they want or hope for him to be in a few years should run for and be elected President. It’s the Obama insanity all over again.

Newsflash, people. Marco Rubio is either a closet progressive or an idiot who got rolled by Schumer and Obama. Personally, I’d rather not support someone like that under either scenario.

Doughboy on July 2, 2013 at 12:08 PM

Rush Limbaugh had two ding-bat woman callers today (lone was from Grosse Pointe, MI) who wanted the amnesty bill passed (even though they admitted it was horrid) because they felt it would help Marco Rubio’s chances of becoming President. Let’s destroy the country so Rubio can be President.

bw222 on July 2, 2013 at 2:48 PM

But the GOP isn’t dead. They’ll be the perpetual also-rans, and the party leaders will be living the good life. What will be dead is the middle class. We’ll have the elites and the peasants.

Fenris on July 2, 2013 at 12:17 PM

I agree with most of what you said, but I’d disagree with that, at least nationally. The scales are falling from too many eyes now.

ddrintn on July 2, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Aren’t you in any way disappointed in Palin for dragging out her possible candidacy for so long, only to opt out?

JetBoy on July 2, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Not really. Palin realizes the importance of timing in politics. First, Michele Bachmann ill-advisedly entered the race. Then Rick Perry entered. All three were going after the same base.

Had Palin entered, her future would be in shambles (like Bachmann’s is).

bw222 on July 2, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Yeah. You know, people are always saying that Palin had no intention of getting into the race in 2012. I don’t know that. I do think that Bachmann getting in in that stupid vanity run and Perry being cajoled into getting into a race he really didn’t want to get into had a lot to do with everything.

ddrintn on July 2, 2013 at 2:51 PM

William Eaton on July 2, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Christie would go over like a lead balloon in the South.

Stay in NJ Governor…You’ve got plenty of work to do there.

workingclass artist on July 2, 2013 at 1:31 PM

And Rubio will? That is all I am arguing for Christie,but he will win a boat load of GOP primaries in the northeast, perhaps all of them.

Look this is about not being caught in the middle, in no man’s land.

Christie has already staked out the RINO position. It is his and he will not lose it. Paul has the libertarian wing of the GOP locked up. If Cruz runs he will lock uo the Christian conservative and hardcore conservative vote. Obviously if Bush runs a bunch of his nitwit supporters will back him. What does that leave Rubio?

I am arguing against the premise that Rubio will be the most even seen as the most electable candidate. Basically in the GOP primaries the Northeast will go to Christie, maybe the pacific coast too. The south and midwest will be split between Paul, Cruz, Bush, Rubio (he might win Florida), etc.

This is not what I want but a reality if everyone runs.

William Eaton on July 2, 2013 at 3:02 PM

William Eaton on July 2, 2013 at 3:02 PM

OK…I see your point.

I don’t think Cruz will run if Perry does.

workingclass artist on July 2, 2013 at 3:09 PM

Rush Limbaugh had two ding-bat woman callers today (lone was from Grosse Pointe, MI) who wanted the amnesty bill passed (even though they admitted it was horrid) because they felt it would help Marco Rubio’s chances of becoming President. Let’s destroy the country so Rubio can be President.

bw222 on July 2, 2013 at 2:48 PM

This is the problem with celebrity personality cults & Identity Politics.

This BS cannot infect conservatives.

workingclass artist on July 2, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Yeah. You know, people are always saying that Palin had no intention of getting into the race in 2012. I don’t know that. I do think that Bachmann getting in in that stupid vanity run and Perry being cajoled into getting into a race he really didn’t want to get into had a lot to do with everything.

ddrintn on July 2, 2013 at 2:51 PM

John “Bhopal” Coale husband of Greta.

He negotiated Palin’s FOX contract.

He funded her Super Pac after she left the Governor’s Office.

He funded her Bus Tour.

He unofficially advised Herman Cain during his womynz scandal.

He also funded John Edwards…

So there’s that.

workingclass artist on July 2, 2013 at 3:19 PM

Chris Christie has zero chance of winning the Republican primaries mainly because he is a super liberal, more liberal than any other person who won the Republican nomination in the past including Mitt Romney… Plus he is fat and ugly…

mnjg on July 2, 2013 at 1:34 PM

2012: GOP nominated a guy who inspired ObamaCare!
2008: GOP nominated a guy who is probably the biggest supporter of Amnesty in America
2004: GOP re-nominated a guy who expanded medicare
2000: GOP nominated a guy because he came from royalty
2006: GOP nominated Bob Dole….:)
2002: GOP re-nominated a guy who lied about raising taxes
1988: GOP nominated a guy who hated Reagan, and he was the VP

So there you are a concise history of the GOP presidential picks since 1988…

Primary GOP voters:

Who wins the RINO vote: Christie > Rubio
Who wins the Conservative vote: Cruz > Rubio
Who wins the Monarchist vote: Bush > Rubio
Who wins the libertarian vote: Paul > Rubio

This about Rubio winning the primary….I don’t see how it happens unless Cruz does not run and Rubio somehow can con conservatives into trusting him again. Let me know how that works out. But he is not going to win the RINO vote. They will be drawn to Christie like a moth to a flame, no matter what they say now….

William Eaton on July 2, 2013 at 3:19 PM

In other Immigration news…

Same-sex couples flood immigration offices for visas

Read more here: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2013/07/01/195470/same-sex-couples-flood-immigration.html#storylink=cpy

*blech*

workingclass artist on July 2, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Rubio’s been counting on that all along.

And yet he pushed legislation that will create millions of new voters for his opposition.

BKeyser on July 2, 2013 at 3:23 PM

What, these rich donors couldn’t speak up before hand.

It’s much cheaper to prevent our Great Hispanic Hope I from shooting himself in the foot than it is to attempt to heal the wound after the fact.

Great Hispanic Hope II is doing quite well on principle, thank you.

applebutter on July 2, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Not just in Africa. On a pleasure trip which is costing us $100 Million dollars.

Fenris on July 2, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Georgia Democratic Congressman Slams Cost Of Obama’s Trip To Africa While The IRS Sends $46 Million To Illegal Aliens At One Address In One Year

Resist We Much on July 2, 2013 at 3:56 PM

From yesterday’s qotd thread I marveled that Rubio seems to have gotten NO benefit at all from a poll of Latinos. And that the bill is indeed designed by Democrats to push most red states into becoming blue states, to make the entire country a Democratic haven: http://capitolhilloutsider.com/passage-of-the-amnesty-bill-will-spell-the-end-of-our-republic/
An excerpt from the above link:

The number of illegals in this country is repeatedly cited as 11 million. This is almost certainly an underestimate. In reality the number is 20 to 30 million or more, according to … … Furthermore, when amnesty passes, the newly-legal aliens will invite their relatives to come, further inflating that number through chain migration.

Herein lies the real reason Democrats are slavering for this amnesty bill to pass and are tickling themselves pink that there are Republicans stupid and gullible, (or corrupt) enough to help them realize their dream. Make no mistake, an increase of 30 million in the Democrat Party voter base will guarantee Democrat majorities in the U.S. House, Senate and Presidency for the foreseeable future.

Despite the impossibly bizarre belief by some Republicans that amnesty will make illegals “like us” … [Latinos will still vote Democrat {look at the polls now on Rubio!!}]

anotherJoe on July 2, 2013 at 4:28 PM

Not much wonder why–the big poultry packers in South Carolina get a waiver on the number of illegals that can can work in their plants via Lindsey Graham-IF this horrid bill goes through.

Did you also know that illegals with known gang affiliations will also be granted amnesty? So will illegals have have ALREADY BEEN DEPORTED FOR CRIMINAL ACTIVITIES IN THE USA–they will be allowed to legally reenter the USA and become citizens.And what a fine bunch of employees will be added to the workforce and citizenry. More likely–welfare collectors, rapists, druggies and drug dealers wouldn’t you think?

The time has come to realize that, often for different reasons, the Republicans are nearly as corrupt, crooked and devious as the Democrats. I have tolerated them as long as they have fought for a strong military, opposed socialism and favored smaller government and lower taxes. But this Amnesty is a COUNTRY WRECKER and, even if we temporarily lose some power,all 14 crooks, psychopaths or traitors (take your pick) who betrayed us must be defeated even if it means the temporary loss of a seat IF Amnesty is passed by the House.Time to clean the basement of rats.

MaiDee on July 2, 2013 at 4:29 PM

Money certainly helps politicians but it takes a lot more than just money to win a nomination or a presidency. If that wasn’t true we would all be talking about President John Connelly and President Forbes about now.

Fred 2 on July 2, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Rubio has carved out a leadership position in the Republican Party, the ACORN wing of the Republican Party. They are feverishly working to import 20+ million new Democrat voters. The Democrat’s ACORN organization didn’t even dream of numbers so large.

Being the new leader of the ACORN wing of the Republican Party will bring lots of attention and money to both Rubio and Ryan. In this case, lots of money and attention from liberals and those making money hand over fist on the backs of the illegals.

RJL on July 2, 2013 at 4:41 PM

VorDaj

Levin hammers ‘neo-statists’ Jeb Bush, Rubio, Ryan and Rove

‘You got that, Marco? You got that Paul and Karl Rove, as you lie through your teeth, you got it, pal?’

Mark Levin RIPS Boehner over making immigration his top priority

Mark Levin: Rubio texted me and told me what I’m saying about the Gang of 8 bill is NOT accurate…and let’s it rip

Resist We Much on July 2, 2013 at 4:07 PM

I guess Levin doesn’t like finding out that to Senor Rubio he’s just another Anglo Rubio lies to.

Maybe Levin can commiserate with Coulter on her double disappointment with Rubio and Christie.

I guess better late then never?

Border Security and Consistent Enforcement should always come first. It protects our security and gives us a Big Stick in our negotiations with our truculent southern neighbors.

workingclass artist on July 2, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Did you also know that illegals with known gang affiliations will also be granted amnesty?

MaiDee

Many of whom are working in those poultry plants and other places during the day and doing their gang banging thing at night. Seriously, did you folks really believe illegals pay coyotes $5,000-$15,000 to bring them here so they can work for minimum wage or less, lol?

xblade on July 2, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Yeah, Thanks Marco. Thanks for nothing…

mmcnamer1 on July 2, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Many of whom are working in those poultry plants and other places during the day and doing their gang banging thing at night. Seriously, did you folks really believe illegals pay coyotes $5,000-$15,000 to bring them here so they can work for minimum wage or less, lol?

xblade on July 2, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Yep.

It’s how the Drug Cartels moved up from the south and into Mexico.

Mexico thought they could control things by demographic dumping…but now they have the foreign cartels to contend with and many of these have taken over whole states within Mexico.

The foreign cartels are making a lot of money doing business with overseas terrorist organizations…acting as coyotes for them, laundering their pesos,arms trading etc. as the overseas terrorist organizations establish networks.

workingclass artist on July 2, 2013 at 5:05 PM

But the GOP isn’t dead. They’ll be the perpetual also-rans, and the party leaders will be living the good life. What will be dead is the middle class. We’ll have the elites and the peasants.

Fenris on July 2, 2013 at 12:17 PM

I agree with most of what you said, but I’d disagree with that, at least nationally. The scales are falling from too many eyes now.

ddrintn on July 2, 2013 at 2:48 PM

Well, I meant in the context of the amnesty passing. But I probably shouldn’t sound so sure regardless; can’t predict the future.

Fenris on July 2, 2013 at 5:06 PM

workingclass artist

It’s pretty scary stuff, and infuriating as hell.

xblade on July 2, 2013 at 5:11 PM

And a quitter.

davidk on July 2, 2013 at 11:56 AM

OK, I get it you hate Sarah Palin; Is she wrong?

reddevil on July 2, 2013 at 11:59 AM

You new around here?

davidk on July 2, 2013 at 5:17 PM

Rubio looks as arrogant in this picture as barryO does when he has his chin up while sneering at the masses.

lonestar1 on July 2, 2013 at 5:31 PM

The immigration bill is dead in the House…

mnjg

I hope you haven’t bet any money on that.

xblade on July 2, 2013 at 5:33 PM

The new slogan for 2016…”Keeping that losing streak going…We are the GOP”

The GOP establishment is either arrogant beyond words or out of touch beyond imagination. Running crappy commercials that we know are bunk does nothing but shine a spotlight on the Republican Party’s coming reckoning.

Every day i am a little more convinced that a third party is coming. The GOP just doesnt see the train coming right at them.

Keep flushing money down the toilet trying to polish turd Rubio.

If they are only fooling themselves does that make it a success in the eyes of the Republican establishment?

alecj on July 2, 2013 at 5:38 PM

All the kings horses and all the kings money can’t make Rubio competitive again.

redguy on July 2, 2013 at 5:50 PM

Yeah. You know, people are always saying that Palin had no intention of getting into the race in 2012. I don’t know that. I do think that Bachmann getting in in that stupid vanity run and Perry being cajoled into getting into a race he really didn’t want to get into had a lot to do with everything.

ddrintn on July 2, 2013 at 2:51 PM

The biggest beef I always had with Palin was that she didn’t announce her intentions soon enough. I do think she was planning a run, but by the time she officially bailed, I don’t think conservatives had enough time to find a credible alternative to her. Really, Rick Perry was supposed to be the alternative.

Could she come back? Maybe. She would have to do it outside the GOP, though, and would have to work to actively collapse the GOP. I am not sure if she’s willing to do that in spite of her words. She’s always struck me as being a “family first” person and she may not want to put her husband and children through the wringer again. God knows I wouldn’t.

Doomberg on July 2, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Pro amnesty my ass….this is not amnesty and besides, if you guys had your way millions of illegals could stay and work in this country for decades. It is not as if you have done a damn thing about it.

As for establishment..we have people like CATO and Americans for Tax Reform supporting immigration reform as well. Not only that a solid majority of the American people support it, along with a majority of Republicans if they believe there is border security. I guess that means that the socalled establishment is more representative of the American people and the GOP than the anti immigration forces of talk radio and blogs.

Terrye on July 2, 2013 at 6:02 PM

People need to start disappearing -

williamg on July 2, 2013 at 6:14 PM

As Sarah Palin said; “Rubio, sold himself for 30 pieces of silver”

O/T Rush Limbaugh says that Fox prohibited him from talking about Immigration/republican party this morning.

The fix is in to protect amnesty Rubio!!!

Danielvito on July 2, 2013 at 6:27 PM

John “Bhopal” Coale husband of Greta.

He negotiated Palin’s FOX contract.

He funded her Super Pac after she left the Governor’s Office.

He funded her Bus Tour.

He unofficially advised Herman Cain during his womynz scandal.

He also funded John Edwards…

So there’s that.

workingclass artist on July 2, 2013 at 3:19 PM

He’s a Clinton guy, too. I think he just likes populist candidates that miff the Washington-Manhattan-LA axis.

Punchenko on July 2, 2013 at 6:49 PM

Another group, Americans for a Conservative Direction, led by former Gov. Haley Barbour of Mississippi and other top Republicans, has been running ads in Iowa lately that implore those watching to “stand with Marco Rubio to end de facto amnesty.”…

Haley the amnesty lobbyist for the Mexican government Barbour? And Norquist, his group maintained no official position on amnesty – yep – so they could front pro amnesty pols while collecting funds as an impartial group

It’s the great mass of low-information voters who have real muscle in the presidential process, and it’s those voters who are most susceptible to barrages of advertising.

That is their strategy but DEMs appeal better to the same voters. If Rubio or his clones become candidates they will have people like me pushing the low info voters away from the GOP – not on HA but other wayzs
Clue: rich libs need amnesty, but they own the other side too

He’s done a nifty job on both prongs, honestly. In fact, as much as some grassroots conservatives will bristle at the big establishment push for former tea-party darling Marco Rubio, it’ll actually help him with other conservatives who prioritize “electability” over (almost) everything else. Who better to take on the Democrats in 2016 than a guy with pro-amnesty money to burn?

Someone has a love bug. Dream on
Rush had a seminar caller today, a ‘true Reaganite’ lady from Grosse Point (Blue Hair Land). She was testing the script and it was pathetic.

entagor on July 2, 2013 at 7:52 PM

Palin was exactly right when she tweeted Rubio…”hope the 30 pieces of silver was worth it.”

fight like a girl on July 2, 2013 at 8:16 PM

…why does Judas drink so much water?

KOOLAID2 on July 2, 2013 at 9:35 PM

As long as the GOP remains the “party of big business” they will continue to lose middle class white voters.One of the primary factors in Romney’s defeat was the perception that he couldn’t care less about working Americans.And now the GOP/Big Business alliance wants to screw hard working American citizens by flooding the labor pool with cheap labor.The Republican Party is committing suicide and murder.They are killing both themselves and America.

redware on July 2, 2013 at 9:52 PM

I held my nose when I voted for Romney.

I won’t go through that again for Rubio under ANY circumstances. Suck dirt, big money repubes.

Conservchik on July 2, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Yep… not a dimes worth of difference between the welfare/warfare Democrats & the warfare/welfare Republicans.

roflmmfao

donabernathy on July 2, 2013 at 10:47 PM

Remember Mitt Romney and ORCA. The sellout right cannot deliver what it promises, including electability, because lying sellouts are losers.

David Blue on July 2, 2013 at 11:00 PM

There’s all sorts of Democrat cavalry we’ve seen ride in for Obamacare too. But at the bottom line, when a bill is crap.. it’s crap. The GOP can’t hide a mess like that no matter how much money it throws at it. You can put all the platitudes on TV and radio that you like, but there’s still real life to contend with. And in real life, the middle class is getting screwed.

Murf76 on July 3, 2013 at 12:16 AM

Aren’t you in any way disappointed in Palin for dragging out her possible candidacy for so long, only to opt out?

JetBoy on July 2, 2013 at 12:16 PM

Why would I be disappointed in her? I’m disappointed in the idiots who voted for Mitt for the nomination which gave us Obama 2.0.

The fact Palin decided not to run says more about us then her. You had a 100% conservative superstar asking for support. Someone who had all the correct positions, a great resume, enough charisma to suck the O2 out of any room, a stellar record both constitutional and fiscally and instead of embracing that person many people allowed themselves to be hoodwinked by the carnival barkers about little crap things. So instead of getting a conservative superstar the people allowed themselves to be sold a liberal lite for Mass.

that would be like having Reagan and picking carter.

unseen on July 3, 2013 at 12:48 AM

As long as the GOP remains the “party of big business” they will continue to lose middle class white voters.One of the primary factors in Romney’s defeat was the perception that he couldn’t care less about working Americans.And now the GOP/Big Business alliance wants to screw hard working American citizens by flooding the labor pool with cheap labor.The Republican Party is committing suicide and murder.They are killing both themselves and America.

redware on July 2, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Quoted for truth.

David Blue on July 3, 2013 at 1:19 AM

In addition to kickbacks, sweeteners, bribes, pork, waivers this giant pile of stinking garbage has a SLUSH FUND (Possibly involving Rubio) where there are kickbacks to immigration lawyers and pro-illegal alien amnesty groups. Billions and Billions of wasted money in toto and bribes to every one of the 14 Republican turncoats and plenty of pork for the others as well.

But what makes the Amnesty Bill totally useless is that LEGISLATION CAN BE OVERRIDDEN BY ADMINISTRATIVE FIAT by Janet Napolitano or any one further up or down the food chain.

-English language requirement?-can be postponed, waived or via legalistic judo can be effectively destroyed by ‘reductio ad absurdum’–Example–if, after “coaching” the subject can say “hello” the English language requirement has been “satisfied”.
-13 years wait-can, if necessary be reduced to 13 minutes by more ‘judo’ or by subsequent amendatory legislation.
-There is hidden legislation already extant which paves the way for citizenship for Mexicans already deported for criminal activities in the USA-to come back and be naturalized. Also members of highly dangerous organized criminal gangs such as MS-13 are free to be US citizens. So much for transparency.
-Cloud cuckooland accounting estimating gains for legalization will actually put us $6 trillion further into debt by our OWN government’s estimates.
-No security first before legalization-is like saying you can’t get flood insurance until AFTER Sandy strikes New York.

Ex–700 miles fence–can be waived by Big Sis at will.
-20,000 additional border guards can be downsized, waived, cancelled or re-assigned to picking flowers at Yosemite or distributing ads for Obamacare.

Finally-as is typical of everything Obama does–NO ACCOUNTABILITY–Like Benghazi, IRS, NSA–when things go wrong–and you can be 100% certain of that–there will be no one to blame–the blame will accrue to no one person or group-except maybe some obscure film maker-filming the border. Failure will be placed on ghosts, gremlins, little green men, global warming, Republicans, Bush, white males, international crises, accountants and other officials appointed by Bush, racism and profiling-etc etc-succinctly-everybody but the scum who thought up this legislation from hell.

MaiDee on July 3, 2013 at 1:58 AM

What you are watching is the suicide of a party and you have a front-row seat.

Who exactly does the GOP think is going to vote for their presidential candidate? Is there some magic pool of voters beyond party members they hope to tap? Do they believe this will be long gone from people’s memories by the time our election comes? Do they believe people won’t sit out the election and not vote?

Apparently, they didn’t include these factors in their analysis or the last electoral “post-mortem” or they would realize just how foolish this is. We’ve had one comprehensive bill in the last 6 years that nobody read. How is that turning out…beyond the fact Republican leaders don’t have the wisdom or guts to repeal it.

And I am surprised at Barbour. I’ve always had enormous respect for his judgment. This ends that admiration. In fact, I can’t fathom how this passes a basic intellectual sniff-test.

Marcus Traianus on July 3, 2013 at 7:55 AM

If anyone is interested, go to TheUlstermanReport.com and read an article about the “money persons” in the GOP.

Amjean on July 3, 2013 at 8:18 AM

“How Republicans Were Bought out…..” from The Ulsterman Report -

We’ll get right to it then. Look up a group called American Action Network. It is an organization often described as “conservative”. Well, while it leans conservative on some issues, it is, at heart, yet another East Coast big money Republican network. It’s president, a man by the name of Brian O. Walsh, has a long record of working for East Coasters. Think along the lines of Mitt Romney or Chris Christie, and you get the idea. Now I’m not here to slam either Romney or Christie. When he was running against Barack Obama I was a strong supporter of Governor Romney for the simple fact he wasn’t Barack Obama. (Yes, given Obama’s record, both past and present, that should have been reason enough for most who were actually paying attention.)

Now the American Action Network is basically one of the more influential groups now raising and spending vast quantities of cash in an attempt to secure control of the GOP. Another (similar) version of Karl Rove if you will. Somewhere along the line, this organization locked in with Marco Rubio and offered him support IF Rubio would make a strong push for immigration reform. Have you heard all those Rubio-related political ads asking you to contact Senator Rubio and help him to end the “current system of amnesty”? That is American Action Network behind those ads.

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« Barack Obama Runs To Muslim Brotherhood’s Defense In Egypt…MUST SEE – Photos Of Egyptians TRUE Feelings For Barack Obama… »As a related aside, the founder of American Action Network, Norm Coleman, was the Minnesota Senator who was defeated (illegally) by Al Franken in 2009. Coleman, similar to figures such as Romney and Christie, is a politician who leans right, but then can alter course to the left when it is politically advantageous to do so. (Perhaps we need to add Senator Rubio to that list now?) Since his defeat, Coleman has been among the more influential “think tank” figures within the GOP, repeatedly calling for Republicans to be more willing to strike “grand bargains” with their Democratic counter-parts.

Back to the American Action Network itself. Perhaps its most influential big money donor is Ken Langone of former Home Depot fame. Langone is another East Coaster. On a personal level, I like Langone’s brash Wall Street style and record of business success. Politically though, he has a long history of backing political losers, indicating he simply does not fully understand the Mainstreet Power that actually makes up the true heart and soul of Conservative America. McCain didn’t understand it either. Nor did Romney. Now figures like Langone would appear to want yet another try in nominating a GOP candidate that will likely fall short (again) in appealing to the millions of conservatives throughout the country desperate to have a candidate they can truly call their own.

In addition to the deep pockets of Langone, is one of the ranking board members of American Action Network – one former governor of Florida – Jeb Bush. While Jeb Bush had a credible record of success in Florida, and proved capable of delivering an important electoral swing state to his brother George during that Bush’s own presidential campaigns, the Bush family, as much as I admire some aspects of their service, is another example of right-of-left thinking that has created such a dysfunctional and politically homeless GOP in the first place. And in case you think I made a mistake in that previous sentence, I did not. The GOP has become a right of left organization – not a right of center one. That is why so many conservatives view it with such (rightful) distrust.

So a would be presidential (or vice-presidential) candidate is taken in by a right-of-left political group and given promises of millions of dollars in political advertising support. This in turn will elevate his name to national prominence even more than it already. He will (so he’s told) help the entire GOP out by removing the immigration issue from the table. (It wasn’t a real concern among most Americans already though, so a false promise of sorts) By doing that, he is assured crucial support throughout the nation’s GOP structure that will prove crucial in helping him (or his presidential running mate) raise lots of big cash.

I had no idea of this specific scenario until it was pointed out to me by one who understands this type of thinking far better than I ever could. It is deceptive, manipulative, and…possibly will prove successful. At least successful enough to win either Marco Rubio or Jeb Bush the upcoming GOP nomination.

Amjean on July 3, 2013 at 8:23 AM

Romney lost because he couldn’t get the white, blue collar & Perot voters bothered enough to vote for him.

Resist We Much on July 2, 2013 at 2:25 PM

I know a lot of people talk like this, but I cannot find any data, unless you are talking about the white and blue collar workers who make up some of the 47% or 47 million food stamp users. And still no data saying these people would vote for someone who says they are going to get them off dependence. Which white people are you referring to Resist we much? The white blue collar that work for unions and are in the democrat pocket? The blue collar that had the profits of GM deposited into their union banks while creditors were bilked?

Exactly which white voters do you have data on?

The conservative white vote did show up nationwide, Romney beat McCain’s vote totals. I do not have an data on red states, but Romney won there so there is no data to be had.

And in Florida there is something really creepy in the water. Alan West lost, geesh. Busloads of dem voters voted in long lines while conservatives were at work. The republican senate candidate lost, and no media would get behind his Penny Mac plan which, while not sensationalistic, was brilliant in it’s way. And Debbie Blabbermouth lives there…and Crist got twisted, and there are twisted things about former gov. Bush, and Rubio is living/swimming in that rarefied atmosphere.

My idea is to fix Florida, import CA conservatives who want to pay no income or estate taxes. 4 million CA voters voted for Romney, and those votes don’t have an impact in CA for the Pres. election. I would suggest CA voters consider FL and VA if they want to move and save both of those states. I hear they move to Texas, this is not strategic. NM and Colorado, yes. Deploy conservative voters where they make the Electoral college work for us. We are not short of voters (of all races) they are just not voting where their vote counts the most.

Fleuries on July 3, 2013 at 11:51 AM

Our National Security is not for sale!

easyt65 on July 3, 2013 at 1:53 PM

Here comes the cavalry: Big-money GOP groups, donors bolster pro-amnesty Republicans

Good for them, they won’t need my vote or the vote of any Conservatives in 2014.

RJL on July 3, 2013 at 2:55 PM

I’m done. I’m going 3rd Party and I’m not stopping for discussion. I’ve now resigned myself to the fact that we will not win another election in any manner thanks to the Republican Establishment and this BS immigration issue. As a conservative from birth my main purpose now is to torch the Republican Party i.e. McCain, Barbour, Graham, Christie, Romney, Bush, and on and on. I’m no band leader here people and I’ve been blessed to be able to write hefty checks at will. Unless I see some unification here by the 4 time losing Republican Establishment, you can count me out and that includes 2014. Do us a favor Tea Party, keep your Todd Akins’, Jeff Flake’s, Marco Rubio’s, Kelly Ayotte’s (sic) out of our faces. You people could screw up a rock fight and I’m done supporting losers, losers. Go ahead, vote for that amnesty and you will rip this party apart, I’ll make sure of it.

Tangerinesong on July 3, 2013 at 7:24 PM

Do us a favor Tea Party, keep your Todd Akins’, Jeff Flake’s, Marco Rubio’s, Kelly Ayotte’s (sic) out of our faces.

Tangerinesong on July 3, 2013 at 7:24 PM

heh. The whole lot of ‘em suck, “establishment” and “”non”” “establishment.”

kunegetikos on July 3, 2013 at 7:59 PM

“Just leave the money on the night, stand you have my number?”:Marco.

bluesdoc70 on July 4, 2013 at 1:34 AM

Most of big business is owned and ran by liberals, they donate money to the turncoat Republicans to keep alive the myth that Republicans are promoting cheap labor for them. Between the Democrats and the MSM this myth has fostered the hatred for the patriotism of those that fight against these lies. The dishonorable men and women that voted for amnesty are the real traitors to the Constitution and the rule of law, that was the hallmark of this country. Take the dirty money and rot in Hades.

savage24 on July 6, 2013 at 3:47 PM

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