Facebook blocked Fox News commentator for NRA, Chick-fil-A references

posted at 8:41 pm on July 1, 2013 by Mary Katharine Ham

Gee, it’s almost as if there’s a pattern of basic conservative beliefs being labeled abusive or criminal in order to shove them out of the public square. Here’s the status update that Facebook admitted got the account of Fox News radio’s Todd Starnes suspended:

“I’m about as politically incorrect as you can get. I’m wearing an NRA ball cap, eating a Chick-fil-A sandwich, reading a Paula Deen cookbook and sipping a 20-ounce sweet tea while sitting in my Cracker Barrel rocking chair with the Gather Vocal Band singing ‘Jesus Saves’ on the stereo and a Gideon’s Bible in my pocket. Yes sir, I’m politically incorrect and happy as a June bug.”

Here’s the back story via the Washington Post’s media critic, Erik Wemple, whom I appreciate taking up this subject fairly:

According to Fox News Insider, that message got Starnes banned from Facebook. The site sent him this message: “We removed this from Facebook because it violates our Community Standards. So you’re temporarily blocked from using this feature.” A Facebook spokeswoman confirmed the blocking.

Those “Community Standards” are found right here. They outline 10 no-no areas for Facebook users: violence and threats, self-harm, bullying and harassment, hate speech, graphic content, nudity and pornography, identity and privacy, intellectual property, phishing and spam and security.

Unless Facebook covertly added another category — say, “conservative defiance” — The Erik Wemple Blog cannot ascertain which particular rule Starnes’s post defied. After all, the commentator didn’t say that he was sitting “naked in my Cracker Barrel rocking chair,” complete with photograph of the scene. That would have violated the “nudity and pornography” prohibition. Nor did Starnes publish secret Chick-fil-A recipes, which could have put him in contravention of the “intellectual property” provision. And hey, if his post looked like “hate speech,” well then our national dialogue is far less courteous than we thought.

Wemple points out another example of a hair-trigger Facebook banning he’s covered, also of a conservative. “In that case, a clever and politically motivated fellow posted a catchy anti-Obama meme that proved popular on the Internet,” he notes. Facebook reinstated that content, too.

With Starnes, Facebook admitted a mistake:

Facebook sent an apology to Starnes after an outcry from his fans and follow-up, Starnes said, saying it was a mistake.

“As our team processes hundreds of thousands of reports each week, we occasionally make a mistake. In this case, we mistakenly removed content from the Todd Starnes Page, and worked to rectify the mistake as soon as we were notified,” Facebook’s statement read.

It sounds like Starnes may be a victim of a coordinated flagging attack, in which liberals use the “flag objectionable content” capabilities of social media to get their political adversaries banned. Even if it doesn’t last long, it’s certainly a pain and a chilling effect.

High-traffic pages commonly kick up what Facebook calls “reports” from users — essentially, complaints that a possible violation of the “Community Standards” may have occurred. Such “reports” appear to have triggered a look at Starnes’s post, then a block.

In the past, these attacks have been quite effective on Twitter. Both services need to be more careful with this kind of thing.

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BTW, the person that sued Paula Deen for race discrimination…. you won’t believe it… is white.

faraway on July 1, 2013 at 8:46 PM

Makes me even happier that I quit Facebook six months ago. Never been happier. Good riddance. I’d imagine a fair number of folks around these parts never started with them in the first place.

SoRight on July 1, 2013 at 8:48 PM

IRS must of given them a break on their taxes..

Electrongod on July 1, 2013 at 8:49 PM

Funny how this only happens to conservatives (no, not “ha ha funny”).

Steve Eggleston on July 1, 2013 at 8:50 PM

Farcebook is for idiots and losers. May they all choke on their shares, those who were dumb enough to buy them.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 1, 2013 at 8:51 PM

It’s just another example of media being in the tank for Democrats. THe Democrats set the bar and the press follows suit, and that includes social media. ANyone who believes that free speech is alive and well in this country, isn’t paying attention.

SOmeone needs to find a way to take the PC movement and flush it down the toilet. Then shame our illustrious free press into actually reporting the news, rather than covering up for the administration and the Democrats.

We have serious issues the press refuses to cover. The IRS stole an election, in 2012, and the press either doesn’t recognize that fact, or they do and they’re assisting in covering it up. Either way, they’re proving themselves unworthy of 1st Amendment protections. Perhaps they all think like David Gregory and just don’t understand the 1st Amendment protections and the responsibilities included in them. TOo bad we don’t have any good schools of journalism.

bflat879 on July 1, 2013 at 8:52 PM

Facebook and Twitter, the bane of humanity…

Let them go, useless tech…

Scrumpy on July 1, 2013 at 8:55 PM

This surprises who…?

CPT. Charles on July 1, 2013 at 8:59 PM

And facebook twice refused to remove a Kill Zimmerman page that I reported.

aikidoka on July 1, 2013 at 9:00 PM

Is there a link to the Wemple article? What was the catchy little anti-Obama meme?

John the Libertarian on July 1, 2013 at 9:02 PM

in which liberals use the “flag objectionable content” capabilities of social media to get their political adversaries banned.

‘Cuz rather than have to debate and defend their positions in the marketplace of ideas, they’d rather shut their opponents up by any means necessary.

Resist We Much on July 1, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Was the catchy little anti-Obama meme “If I wanted America to fail”?

John the Libertarian on July 1, 2013 at 9:04 PM

In the past, these attacks have been quite effective on Twitter. Both services need to be more careful with this kind of thing.

It’s a feature, not a bug. Like the IRS, well, they just don’t *want* to be more careful with their application of blatantly leftist targeting of ‘the other’.

Midas on July 1, 2013 at 9:11 PM

Except for teens with their peculiar social/communication needs, and perhaps little league teams or clubs, I have never understood the entire Facebook thing. I know we’ve had these discussions here before.

Perhaps just the highest-profile commercialized expression of the pathetic reality of a society with little interesting to say but absolutely insatiable in itsheir need to say it.

Then again Fox News is also a bit of a depressing marker. Not as idiotic and parodic in its bias as the “mainstream” sources (a bar so low this qualifies as faint praise), but aside from a handful of individuals and occasional solid products pretty much a wasteland of over-hyped disasters, disappearing blondes, and talk shows almost as vapid as a confab of the current “brain trust” in the WH.

IceCold on July 1, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Facebook standards appear to be arbitrary. I’ve been blocked by Facebook three times for comments which appeared to be innocuous — mild at worst. Meanwhile other comments that are virulently anti-Semitic, anti-Israel, and anti-Christian remain and the commenters are not punished.

aunursa on July 1, 2013 at 9:14 PM

Is there a lawyer in the house? It seems to me a case can be made with the FEC against MSNBC. As I understand it, political contributions have dollar limits. Messnbc can be easily shown to have violated those limits with “contributions in kind” to the D party and many, many individuals in that party.

Sounds like there could be a lot of publicity and moolah in a successful suit. Might even sink that cesspool of “information”.

FOWG1 on July 1, 2013 at 9:15 PM

in which liberals use the “flag objectionable content” capabilities of social media to get their political adversaries banned.

 
‘Cuz rather than have to debate and defend their positions in the marketplace of ideas, they’d rather shut their opponents up by any means necessary.
 
Resist We Much on July 1, 2013 at 9:03 PM

 
Just so long as there is never a financially omnipotent federal government agency that a president’s administration could use to occupy and dampen the effect of political adversaries / get-out-the-vote type groups in order to waste time and energy to lessen any effect they may have on…
legal…
um, elections and…
wait…
nevermind.
Too late.

rogerb on July 1, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Both services need to be more careful with this kind of thing.

Wow. Strong stuff. Don’t get too worked up on behalf of our beleaguered First Amendment.

rrpjr on July 1, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Just how does one go about getting one of those pages …. on Facebook?….never mind

NOMOBO on July 1, 2013 at 9:15 PM

The three times I’ve been suspended, I was unable to determine how my comment violated Facebook standards. And Facebook provides no mechanism for me to learn what was the specific community standard that I violated, and how my comment was in violation of that standard.

aunursa on July 1, 2013 at 9:17 PM

Todd Starnes is a detestable human being and conservatives should probably ban his nonsense before it gets to Facebook.

Or he, Bryan Fischer, Fred Phelps, and Erick Erickson can start their own social networking site. :D

It's Vintage, Duh on July 1, 2013 at 9:17 PM

One of mt FB friends-a patriot and solider…who just happens to be black-kept getting his wall posts/comments ‘flagged’. A few of us tried to get our comments to his wall flagged. No dice. We came to the conclusion that FB was targeting him because he was/is a black conservative.

annoyinglittletwerp on July 1, 2013 at 9:18 PM

It sounds like Starnes may be a victim of a coordinated flagging attack, in which liberals use the “flag objectionable content” capabilities of social media to get their political adversaries banned.

Every popular conservative and/or Christian Facebook page is completely overridden with leftist and/or atheist trolls…unless the page moderator bans each abuser.
Which doesn’t usually happen.

itsnotaboutme on July 1, 2013 at 9:18 PM

I’ve had comments deleted from Facebook twice, & with the second one came a 24-hour ban.
They warned me that a third one will result in a permanent ban.

My deleted posts were just as benign as Mr Starnes’.

itsnotaboutme on July 1, 2013 at 9:19 PM

‘Cuz rather than have to debate and defend their positions in the marketplace of ideas, they’d rather shut their opponents up by any means necessary.

Resist We Much on July 1, 2013 at 9:03 PM

Yep. I’m trying to remember any time when I have seen a Progressive/Liberal/Communist/Whatever strengthen his/her position by talking about in detail to sane people.

DaveDief on July 1, 2013 at 9:20 PM

It sounds like Starnes may be a victim of a coordinated flagging attack, in which liberals use the “flag objectionable content” capabilities of social media to get their political adversaries banned. Even if it doesn’t last long, it’s certainly a pain and a chilling effect.

…I’m sure Lerner still can comment on her Facebook page!

KOOLAID2 on July 1, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Todd Starnes is a detestable human being and conservatives should probably ban his nonsense before it gets to Facebook.

Or he, Bryan Fischer, Fred Phelps, and Erick Erickson can start their own social networking site. :D

It’s Vintage, Duh on July 1, 2013 at 9:17 PM

“It’s Vintage, Duh” is a detestable human being and conservatives should probably…keep allowing him to make a complete fool of himself.

itsnotaboutme on July 1, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Mark Suckerberg is a useless prick who practices facism. His Dhimmibook project needs to be boycotted by every liberty loving individual.

paulsur on July 1, 2013 at 9:23 PM

itsnotaboutme on July 1, 2013 at 9:21 PM

Bless your heart. :]

It's Vintage, Duh on July 1, 2013 at 9:23 PM

Todd Starnes is a detestable human being and conservatives should probably ban his nonsense before it gets to Facebook.

Or he, Bryan Fischer, Fred Phelps, and Erick Erickson can start their own social networking site. :D

It’s Vintage, Duh on July 1, 2013 at 9:17 PM

Better plan;

Let the ideas/words/thoughts be out there, in the marketplace. Even the ones you find detestable. Let the viewing audience decide what’s good, bad.

We could call it freedom.

massrighty on July 1, 2013 at 9:24 PM

As our team processes hundreds of thousands of reports each week, we occasionally make a mistake.

Too big to fail?

I refuse to feed the monster.

Dr. ZhivBlago on July 1, 2013 at 9:24 PM

I closed my Facebook account months ago after reading similar stories about censorship, and because of general boredom reading about other people’s breakfasts, politics, and bodily functions. Sheesh!

I quit Google after getting tired of supporting their left-wing-in-your-face policies and banners (“Happy Birthday Cesar Chaves!”). I switched to Bing and then Damn! on Sunday they made their home page a billboard for Gay Pride Day Parades. On Sunday, not the day of the SCOTUS decision. I don’t care about gay marriage one way or the other, but I’m getting tired of being force fed this internet left wing trash like a goose about to become pate.

2ndMAW68 on July 1, 2013 at 9:25 PM

Recently a behead those who insult the prophet website showed up on dhimmibook. There was no quick move o take down that site.

paulsur on July 1, 2013 at 9:25 PM

I closed my Dhimmibook account after they banned they everyone draw Mohammed page. This page violates no standards and yet they took it down giving credence to the facists and emboldening to make threats against the creator of the page. Dhimmibook has always been bigoted in this way.

paulsur on July 1, 2013 at 9:27 PM

Most likely some left winger complained, and when the post was deleted, they giggled with glee. Because the Left doesn’t care about what’s right, about anything like “equal protection”, about letting dissenting views be heard. All they care about is winning. For them, the ends justify the means. That’s what we’re up against. Dishonest liars and cheats.

Paul-Cincy on July 1, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Let the ideas/words/thoughts be out there, in the marketplace. Even the ones you find detestable. Let the viewing audience decide what’s good, bad.

We could call it freedom.

massrighty on July 1, 2013 at 9:24 PM

As the John Cazales character in “The Deer Hunter” would say, “F***in’ A!”.

Paul-Cincy on July 1, 2013 at 9:39 PM

The IRS gets to target conservatives. Facebook just wants a piece of the action.

taznar on July 1, 2013 at 9:39 PM

This post was brought to you by Americans for a Conservative Direction.

Anyone on the right still on Facebook hasn’t really thought it all through yet.

beatcanvas on July 1, 2013 at 9:40 PM

Yet another reason I don’t do faceboob or twitness.

rbj on July 1, 2013 at 9:44 PM

Combination of this and IRS illegalities. Wonder why conservatives had a hard time getting their message out.

b1jetmech on July 1, 2013 at 9:47 PM

It sounds like Starnes may be a victim of a coordinated flagging attack, in which liberals use the “flag objectionable content” capabilities of social media to get their political adversaries banned.

I would think sites like Twitter and Facebook have the ability to track mass reporters by IP, individual user name, or email address, but then I realize Facebook and Twitter condone this type of thing.

Anyway, I closed my Facebook account over a year ago.

VibrioCocci on July 1, 2013 at 9:49 PM

This post was brought to you by Americans for a Conservative Direction.

Anyone on the right still on Facebook hasn’t really thought it all through yet.

beatcanvas on July 1, 2013 at 9:40 PM

Yep!

As this story shows, Facebook sucks – its a reflection of its immoral, thieving CEO, Zuckerberg.

I have an account, which contains no personal information, only so that I can use Spotify.

Anti-Control on July 1, 2013 at 9:52 PM

Combination of this and IRS illegalities. Wonder why conservatives had a hard time getting their message out.

b1jetmech on July 1, 2013 at 9:47 PM


Post deleted for objectionable content. User b1jetmech banned.

/the IRS says “hi”

Paul-Cincy on July 1, 2013 at 9:54 PM

And let’s not forget Mark Zuckerberg is supporting amnesty for illegals to the tune of millions.

M240H on July 1, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Suggestion to Facebook: BAN those who make false complaints. AND retrain the idiot who acted on the ban.

GarandFan on July 1, 2013 at 10:07 PM

the left loves….totally LOVES the power to shut people up. I have posted on KOS under several different accounts over the years and in that community, the actual rank and file have the ability to “hide” your comments. Not for anything abusive, mind you, but simply for disagreeing with the far left line. The hand out “hide rates” as if they are all some tinpot dictator drunk on power. Given real power, these people would most certainly drag us all off to the gulags and make the world safe for their utopia.

lostinjrz on July 1, 2013 at 10:10 PM

lostinjrz on July 1, 2013 at 10:10 PM

The American left is still grieving over the fall of their beloved Soviet Union.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 1, 2013 at 10:19 PM

Facebook is a tool of this Administration. They also are the backers of Immigration and the ads with Rubio promoting it. They are still today running those ads that are total lies. Rubio is off of the ad I heard today.

And Snowden is a traitor?

bluefox on July 1, 2013 at 10:19 PM

so I guess in facebook’s little world free speech isn’t so free and hate speech is not protected free speech. I wish the liberal and speech police would understand if people do not have the ability to get issues out in the public square via free speech yes even hate speech then people will seek other methods of getting their point across. Free speech of all speech ensures a peaceful society. Once you start banning speech that is offensive it simply is the prelude to civil disorder and if the speech is continued to be blocked. civ!L war. This is shown time afte rtime after time in human history. It is why the founders included it as a right. It is one of the main reasons we have remained a free and prosperous nation for 200+ years. It’s not a coincidence that has colleges and media have started banning speech that the economy has dropped and the level of discord within the nation has risen. ther more speech that is banned the higher the level of discord and the worse the economy gets.

unseen on July 1, 2013 at 10:22 PM

Let the ideas/words/thoughts be out there, in the marketplace. Even the ones you find detestable. Let the viewing audience decide what’s good, bad.

We could call it freedom.

massrighty on July 1, 2013 at 9:24 PM

glad to see i’m not the only one that believe in free speech of ALL speech. Freedom is messy and chaotic but it is the best answer to everything.

unseen on July 1, 2013 at 10:25 PM

And let’s not forget Mark Zuckerberg is supporting amnesty for illegals to the tune of millions.

M240H on July 1, 2013 at 9:59 PM

Not just that.

Zuck has swallowed the entire leftist agenda, from homosexuality to health care.

itsnotaboutme on July 1, 2013 at 10:26 PM

Wow. Strong stuff. Don’t get too worked up on behalf of our beleaguered First Amendment.

rrpjr

Understand that what Facebook did doesn’t implicate the First Amendment at all.

1st Amendment is “Congress shall make no law …” applies to the state & local government through incorporation via the 14th amendment.

Private actors like Facebook can do what they want – there is no “first amendment” there (just as there’s no “first amendment” re: what’s posted here).

BD57 on July 1, 2013 at 10:32 PM

faraway on July 1, 2013 at 8:46 PM

Do you think there will be anything left of the empire she sought through litigation? I read on Yahoo that Deen & lawyers are using the Supreme Court ruling on Prop 8 and stating that this person has no standing in a racial discrimination suit.

Cindy Munford on July 1, 2013 at 10:33 PM

Facebook is a fade and will soon be replaced. See My Space for example.

Cindy Munford on July 1, 2013 at 10:34 PM

fade would be fad to most people.

Cindy Munford on July 1, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Private actors like Facebook can do what they want – there is no “first amendment” there (just as there’s no “first amendment” re: what’s posted here).

BD57 on July 1, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Yep. I blame the idiots on FarceBook for supporting that despicable sack of sh##. They deserve the poor treatment they get. Lie down with leftists wake up with fleas … if they don’t kill you in your sleep.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 1, 2013 at 10:35 PM

Is there a lawyer in the house? It seems to me a case can be made with the FEC against MSNBC. As I understand it, political contributions have dollar limits. Messnbc can be easily shown to have violated those limits with “contributions in kind” to the D party and many, many individuals in that party.Sounds like there could be a lot of publicity and moolah in a successful suit. Might even sink that cesspool of “information”.
FOWG1 on July 1, 2013 at 9:15 PM

Apparently you haven’t been keeping up. Unfortunately the FEC was long coopted by the left. It was where Lois Lerner learned to shut down the right nearly 20 years ago by demanding a republican promise to never run again for office in exchange for dropping trumped up violations. She trained those she left behind before moving to the larger pastures of the IRS and now waiting for US to be distracted by the next series of squirrels before heading up the obamacare dept at the IRS. Death by taxation panel?

AH_C on July 1, 2013 at 10:42 PM

Then there is this:


Facebook found to have leaked millions of Android phone numbers

It was discovered that the world’s largest and most popular social networking site was inadvertently obtaining phone numbers from its users

Inadvertently

Yeah, Right, Inadvertantly.

LegendHasIt on July 1, 2013 at 10:45 PM

I am on Facebook to connect with friends and family that live on the mainland. I see pictures and jokes and life updates and sometimes someone makes a political comment (me too) and I am hooked on Candy Crush Saga. I don’t know this Facebook all of you guys are talking about. Do you have to go searching for the political stuff? Is it because you “liked” a bunch of political pages? Facebook is a tool like everything else. For me, it is a way to stay current with friends and family in a way I could never be with occasional phone calls. Nothing more.

HawaiiLwyr on July 1, 2013 at 11:30 PM

The obvious solution to this problem is to ban those who report innocuous posts such as these. That is the only way they will learn. And you will have a better class of customer for your efforts.

Voluble on July 1, 2013 at 11:39 PM

Yep. I blame the idiots on FarceBook for supporting that despicable sack of sh##. They deserve the poor treatment they get. Lie down with leftists wake up with fleas … if they don’t kill you in your sleep.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on July 1, 2013 at 10:35 PM

I suppose you don’t watch TV either, right?

I don’t, because it’s not interactive.

I use FB, despite Zuck’s muck, because I get a lot accomplished with that tool. Facebook, that is–I wasn’t calling Zuck a tool. :)
Keeping in touch with relatives all over the world, hosting a ministry page, as well as discussing religion & politics on other pages.
When TV becomes more interactive & less destructive, I’ll do that. Until then, I’ll be on Facebook an hour or so per day.

itsnotaboutme on July 2, 2013 at 12:09 AM

I’ve seen this on Web of Trust (WOT) as well. Quite recently, I went to a twitchy page and got the warning that it had been flagged as a phishing site.

Lib censorship.

Axeman on July 2, 2013 at 12:10 AM

I am on Facebook to connect with friends and family that live on the mainland. I see pictures and jokes and life updates and sometimes someone makes a political comment (me too) and I am hooked on Candy Crush Saga. I don’t know this Facebook all of you guys are talking about. Do you have to go searching for the political stuff? Is it because you “liked” a bunch of political pages? Facebook is a tool like everything else. For me, it is a way to stay current with friends and family in a way I could never be with occasional phone calls. Nothing more.

HawaiiLwyr on July 1, 2013 at 11:30 PM

Well stated! I’ve been able to reconnect with friends I hadn’t seen in many years, and also stay connected with assorted family members I rarely see. Ironically, I talk to distant cousins via FB who I would never waste a dime on a phone call to. They’re as boring as ever, but I just say Hi and then split. Repeat the next week.

As for the folks on Facebook pushing their political views, they are aiming for the Low-IQ “voter”. And we all know who won that vote in 2008 and 2012. Why waste time doing that on FB when you can do it on a blog like this? Ironically, I wandered away as a Power Line commenter after they started requiring FB IDs for the comments.

My one major praise for Facebook other than the keeping up with friends and family thing? If you are a fan of any type of MUSIC you can get a wealth of info there, and also talk to countless musicians. These days they are doing everything they can to generate income, and they are very responsive to their fans, especially on FB. I’ve even gotten heads-ups on free concerts that way (best way to do that is to send a Friend Request to the artist).

As a Political FB Species, the (Registered American Voter) musicians are about 90% Far Left Democrat, but in reading their Facebook posts over the past 5 years only about 5% of their posts have been political. And nearly all of those postings were in election years.

One thing to consider if you don’t want to get massive FB intrusion with politics: mark the individual post you find offensive as SPAM by clicking to the right. Even if that offending post was put on FB by a legit friend, only that post and its original source, not who posted it to FB, will be taken off.

Must admit that there are plenny of ono Hawaiian music makers on Facebook. They good people.

Del Dolemonte on July 2, 2013 at 12:45 AM

Facebook be damned.

listens2glenn on July 2, 2013 at 1:27 AM

Re: Flagging attacks.

This is typical of progressives for the most part. When you cannot debate a point coherently, then you shut down the discussion by whatever means necessary. Can’t have any dissenting opinion now, can we? Usually it happens when the discussion gets outside of the progressive talking points. Once that happens, the progressives resort to profanity, straw man arguments, the ever-popular charges of racism or simply getting the other person banned so they don’t have to answer their argument. But hey, if progressives were capable of rational, coherent thought, they would not be progressives, would they?

tballard on July 2, 2013 at 2:32 AM

Both services need to be more careful with this kind of thing.

No, conservatives need to use flagging attacks on the left. Return the favor. Make them live by their own rules.

Vancomycin on July 2, 2013 at 7:46 AM

Facebook admits ‘mistake’ in getting caught blocking Fox News Radio commentator

Fixed.

Physics Geek on July 2, 2013 at 7:55 AM

Facebook is also one of the main causes of HotAir’s “content encoding errors.”

For whatever reason.

viking01 on July 2, 2013 at 7:58 AM

Liberals want conservatives to shut up. Conservatives want liberals to keep talking.

ZK on July 2, 2013 at 8:08 AM

Cowardly Democrat garbage working in tandem to stifle speech.

I’m shocked.

MNHawk on July 2, 2013 at 8:40 AM

If Facebook really cared about this, it’d be easy for them to devalue the flags of anyone who issues a bogus one.

So whenever they reinstate a post that was falsely flagged, all the false flaggers wouldn’t be able to do it again.

Pythagoras on July 2, 2013 at 8:41 AM

By the way, HA places a tracking cookie from Facebook on your computer. Block it with an Add-On like “DoNotTrackMe” from Abine.

HA also runs script from Facebook.net on your computer. Block it with “NoScript”.

slickwillie2001 on July 2, 2013 at 9:15 AM

To Hawaiilwyr and Delmonte,
I do not have a FB account as I am in a similar lane as Snowden, you wouldn’t believe how much information and LINKS you give up to the govt so not only do they know ALL about you, even your “private” page is open to them. There is nothing private about FB and if the powerful want to know about you AND your friends it is only a few clicks away. I know many of you have been hypnotized into this belief of “well, I have nothing to hide from the govt” and so you don’t care but you are giving up your freedoms that many like myself and others overseas fight for every day. It is NOT govt or FB right to track your every movement and purchase. A new kind of revolution needs to take place to take back our country. Let me rephrase that it needs to begin with a peaceful revolution.

g2825m on July 2, 2013 at 9:26 AM

BD57 on July 1, 2013 at 10:32 PM

Quite right. Thanks for correction.

The spirit of free speech should be indissoluble throughout the American enterprise, however, in my opinion, and not subject to double standards. And we should insist that businesses based on a model of public interraction should honor it.

rrpjr on July 2, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Both services need to be more careful with this kind of thing.

No, they need to ensure that the reporting isn’t anonymous (as far as the service is concerned), then sanction people who commit that sort of harrassment.

GWB on July 2, 2013 at 9:59 AM

It sounds like Starnes may be a victim of a coordinated flagging attack, in which liberals use the “flag objectionable content” capabilities of social media to get their political adversaries banned. Even if it doesn’t last long, it’s certainly a pain and a chilling effect.

I use “Web of Trust” (WOT) on my browser and the number of false negatives concerning conservative political sites is astounding. In fact, at one point HotAir itself was flagged. On some, the liberals have posted false statements about viruses infesting the target site. I take all reports of viruses seriously, but as a Linux user, I have a few weapons at my disposal. A quick GET of the top level web page (which is where most viruses reside) always shows no evidence. A real virus infestation shows a bunch of obscured javascript, references to images which aren’t images, etc.

Conservatives don’t do this to liberal sites, so this is obviously that ethics thing some liberals have about lying “so that the truth may be told” which has obviously come to the fore.

I can handle WOT statements about hateful comments — if someone says that, I click on through. It’s the lying about malicious content that steams me.

unclesmrgol on July 2, 2013 at 10:10 AM

g2825m on July 2, 2013 at 9:26 AM

You have far more to fear from criminals examining facebook than you ever will from the Government. And I say this with my tin foil hat firmly in place.

I’ve seen the relatives of police officers post things about the criminals their officer relation has taken down, when they were in court, etc. I’ve seen people post stuff about their vacations as they are happening. It all helps the guys who want to take your stuff — or get even with their arrest last week.

I have a facebook account, but it has no friends, and I only use it for political commentary. Ditto for twitter.

unclesmrgol on July 2, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Could CNWDI get me banned from FB?

Missilengr on July 2, 2013 at 12:02 PM

I am not now, nor have I ever been, a Facebook member.

America is plummeting into darkness – the police state and thoughtcrime.

This is only the continuation of the beginning.

OhEssYouCowboys on July 2, 2013 at 12:08 PM

I am on Facebook to connect with friends and family that live on the mainland. I see pictures and jokes and life updates and sometimes someone makes a political comment (me too) and I am hooked on Candy Crush Saga. I don’t know this Facebook all of you guys are talking about. Do you have to go searching for the political stuff? Is it because you “liked” a bunch of political pages? Facebook is a tool like everything else. For me, it is a way to stay current with friends and family in a way I could never be with occasional phone calls. Nothing more.

HawaiiLwyr on July 1, 2013 at 11:30 PM

I agree that Facebook can be a useful tool.

But…besides the problems with Conservatives getting flagged so unreasonably there, another big problem I have with it is that none of the personal info users post there is reasonably secure, which is partially due to Zuckerberg, a bad guy no one should trust.

Anti-Control on July 2, 2013 at 12:10 PM

It was that NRA ball-cap that done did him in.

Another Drew on July 2, 2013 at 1:40 PM

I got rid of my facebook acct years ago. It’s just a bunch of liberals TRYING to outdo each other.

mmcnamer1 on July 2, 2013 at 5:09 PM