Chicago Tribune: Time for a special prosecutor on IRS scandal

posted at 1:31 pm on June 29, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

“Why hasn’t Attorney General Eric Holder appointed a special prosecutor?” the editorial board of Barack Obama’s hometown newspaper wonders in its essay, scheduled for tomorrow’s print edition.  The Chicago Tribune has seen enough spin and delay in the investigation of the IRS scandals, and wants answers.  The only way to get those, the board writes, is a special prosecutor who can conduct an independent investigation:

The murky intrigue over who provoked what at this agency has become a playpen for politicians. Three among many crucial questions still scream for answers:

•Did someone nudge IRS employees to hassle certain groups or did agency officials spontaneously decide to do that?

•Inspector General George has testified that in June 2012, five months before the election, he told top Treasury Department officials of his probe into IRS targeting. Did his news, with its potential to rock the presidential campaign, stop atop Treasury — or did it make its way even higher in the administration?

•At multiple points in 2012, why did top IRS officials repeatedly mislead Congress by not disclosing — in response to highly specific questions — that the agency was targeting conservative groups?

We can only speculate on which tools will unlock the grimy secrets of this egregious misuse of government authority. An ongoing self-examination by the IRS is laughably untrustworthy. The U.S. Department of Justice also is on the case.

But as we wrote May 23, many Americans won’t be much interested in what one arm of the Obama administration concludes about the conduct of other arms — the IRS, the Treasury and possibly the White House. There are times when only a special prosecutor has the independence and credibility to resolve such a politically fraught matter.

I’ve been reluctant to come to that conclusion, because as I’ve reminded readers a few times, that cure can be worse than the disease.  Special prosecutors (or whatever they are called) tend to drag investigations on for years, go far afield of their original mandate, and usually end up punting on the central allegation of the investigation anyway.  Other than Watergate, the track record of special prosecutors mainly consists of low-level prosecutions and frustrated attempts to impose penalties for illegal behavior.

Still, that track record also mainly consists — at least after Watergate — of esoteric allegations of wrongdoing that seem more like insider trading in politics than understandably outrageous conduct.  Most of those investigations didn’t involve alleged wrongdoing that impacted more than a small circle of political insiders.  That’s not the case with the IRS scandals.  The IRS impacts every American — and with ObamaCare coming, that personal involvement will only get more intense.

If the agency has become a political tool of entrenched power elites in the executive branch, that’s a danger to which almost every American can relate.  And that’s what makes the political overtones of these brief “nothing to see here” arguments from White House apologists so laughable, and the accusations of Barack Obama’s opponents so difficult to trust. No outcome presented by Eric Holder’s Department of Justice or Darrell Issa’s Oversight Committee will find a consensus of credibility.  In this case, the only way forward is the messiest path.

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You do realize that the special prosecutor won’t be as successful as Archibald Cox, and that everybody in this has a pardon form just waiting to be signed sometime between 11/5/2014 and 1/20/2017, right? In short, nothing is going to come out of this.

Steve Eggleston on June 29, 2013 at 1:38 PM

The special prosecution is best handled at the ballot box next fall. It may be a capital offense.

RSbrewer on June 29, 2013 at 1:40 PM

I’ve been reluctant to come to that conclusion, because as I’ve reminded readers a few times, that cure can be worse than the disease.

What tipped it for me was Werfel’s bullshyte report on Thursday. 34 days and still he has no idea who started the targeting and why? And yet without this critical knowledge he can say definitively that there was no wrongdoing and that it wasn’t political? C’mon. Keep in mind this is from the guy that was supposedly tasked to fix the IRS. From his testimony, it appears his actual charge was to bury it. Time for a special prosecutor.

rcpjr on June 29, 2013 at 1:42 PM

Sorry, but I don’t trust special prosecutors to be independent anymore, and I certainly wouldn’t trust Holder to appoint one who wouldn’t whitewash the outcome.

I want Congress to do it and they ought to hire the special prosecution team to assist them in their efforts with everything done occurring in totally transparent committee hearings.

Dusty on June 29, 2013 at 1:43 PM

Pffffttt. It’s over folks. Trying to right this ship through the normal channels will never happen. These people are above the law and they stick it in our faces every fvcking day.

VegasRick on June 29, 2013 at 1:45 PM

No worries. Barry and his pal Holder will just get out the Pardon forms.

GarandFan on June 29, 2013 at 1:57 PM

The IRS has become too powerful and secretive with layer upon layer of protective laws. How does Congress tear down their revenue arm and still coerce Americans to pay?

d1carter on June 29, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Impeachment by the House is much preferable to some stupid investigation by a special prosecutor. The Articles of Impeachment have already filled three volumes. What more do these douchebags need? Wait another month and there will the revelation of a new impeachable act by this treasonous, lowlife, retarded junta. A special prosecutor could never even begin to keep up with the pace of crime of this junta.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 29, 2013 at 2:02 PM

Pffffttt. It’s over folks. Trying to right this ship through the normal channels will never happen. These people are above the law and they stick it in our faces every fvcking day.

VegasRick on June 29, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Yep.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 29, 2013 at 2:04 PM

Picture caption

Thugs of the World

Schadenfreude on June 29, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Don’t be fooled into a special prosecutor. It would instantly take the issue off the table, for two years.

Leave the investigations goin on, and on, and on, until they get to the source of the national travesty. Whoever did this, per the Hatch act, will go to jail in a land of laws.

Let 2014 expose and decide who the tyrants of the USA are.

Schadenfreude on June 29, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Under this Administration, any ‘special prosecutor’ will clear all Democrats, with a finalized report saying the Tea Party is a terrorist movement.

Liam on June 29, 2013 at 2:09 PM

It’s not over yet. Always fight, never quit. Nobody said it was gonna be easy being free.

Kenosha Kid on June 29, 2013 at 2:10 PM

It’s not over yet. Always fight, never quit. Nobody said it was gonna be easy being free.

Kenosha Kid on June 29, 2013 at 2:10 PM

I agree. My “It’s over folks” was in regards to “normal channels” as NOBODY is going to be jailed or fired over any of this stuff and they just move the liars around.

VegasRick on June 29, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Patience. Remember we are having to do this while fighting the State Run Media and their Prog masters. This may take longer than usual. If the Tribune is for it, I’m suspicious that something may be about to break into public view.

d1carter on June 29, 2013 at 2:16 PM

They’re only printing this because they know it will probably never happen and if it does, any report will be nothing but a whitewash of the IRS and the administration.

And now they can point to this as “proof” of how they really are “hard on Obama.”

Gator Country on June 29, 2013 at 2:16 PM

We can only speculate on which tools will unlock the grimy secrets of this egregious misuse of government authority. An ongoing self-examination by the IRS is laughably untrustworthy. The U.S. Department of Justice also is on the case.

No mention of Congressional investigations? The problem is that Eric Holder would certainly choose a tool for the job. And I don’t mean that in a good way. So what is the difference between Holder appointing a special prosecutor and the DOJ investigating? Obama’s tools would immediately use the criminal investigation as further justification to stonewall Congress.

as I’ve reminded readers a few times, that cure can be worse than the disease. Special prosecutors (or whatever they are called) tend to drag investigations on for years, go far afield of their original mandate, and usually end up punting on the central allegation of the investigation anyway.

Yep. Pointless.

novaculus on June 29, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Well… at this point, the only people benefiting are the Chicago thugs as they stonewall everything, and the media quite happily helps them..

When Nixon was under investigation, major powers in the GOP chose country over party..

the democrats in the House and Senate are actively working to squelch the investigations and bury them.

Anyone who can’t see that, is so partisanly blind they simply can’t ever see wrong doing by any democrat ever. So, there is no reason we could expect anything but more grandstanding and bulls**t from these corrupt morons. A special prosecutor may not be a perfect tool, but the only one the dems can’t blow off as hyper partisanship to a very very sympathetic media all to happy to play defense for Obama.

With Nixon, the media already hated him, and were perfectly willing to shame him from office.

Now, with Obama, they not only indulged in a rabid propaganda campaign to get him elected, they actively work to kill the investigations out of pure left wing solidarity with the corruption party.

I don’t know how it’ll end, but I’m very depressed about the chances truth has, when the media has become Obama’s palace guard dogs.

mark81150 on June 29, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Don’t be fooled into a special prosecutor. It would instantly
take the issue off the table, for two years.

Leave the investigations goin on, and on, and on, until they get to the source of the national travesty. Whoever did this, per the Hatch act, will go to jail in a land of laws.

Let 2014 expose and decide who the tyrants of the USA are.

Schadenfreude on June 29, 2013 at 2:07 PM

This. Keep the public hearings and congressional investigations going. Let the faucet drip until it stops dripping.

RadClown on June 29, 2013 at 2:19 PM

VegasRick on June 29, 2013 at 2:14 PM

The rest of it is over, too. Too much irreparable damage has been done. Far too much. There is no returning from this sort of fundamental deformation. America is dead and buried. Starting over is the only actual option.

Once a total mockery is made of the Rule of Law (not to mention official certifying that empathy is now considered a legitimate main criterion for a judge or judicial decision – thanks Senate worms …) you cannot turn around one day and say,

“Okay … from NOW ON, we will follow the law, even though we just demonstrated for the last 5 years that we will allow the most outrageous treason and law-breaking to run unabated. But, that’s over. Now, it’s back to the law. Yep. We promise.”

No one with a brain would take that seriously. Once that trust is destroyed, it’s gone. And, for the, now, American Socialist Superstate … it’s gone. Way gone. This nation only respects the law until it becomes inconvenient or someone fears being called “raaaacist!!” by a bunch of brain-dead race-card-mongers.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 29, 2013 at 2:21 PM

The IRS claim that they don’t know who started the targeting is simply not credible. If Werfel is saying that, he’s lying, but I think he was careful not to say that, exactly. The minute TIGTA told IRS that there was going to be an audit on that topic (over 2 years ago), IRS management did an internal review to find out what TIGTA was going to find. Management HATES surprises, especially bad ones, so they poked around inside until they knew what happened and who was involved. Then they started “fixing it” so that when TIGTA’s report came out, IRS could say, “we already took care of the problem.” That’s why Lerner issued her directive to change the targeting criteria/BOLO in 2012. By that time, they knew everything, including who had done what. I think that’s why Miller and Shulman testified the way they did in 2012/2013, because they thought Lerner had fixed things, so it was okay to say that TP groups were not being targeted.
Somebody has to be given use immunity and forced to testify. I’m not sure, but I think a congressional committee has to have a super-majority to grant immunity. If so, they won’t get it, which means the special prosecutor is the only viable option. Without lower level people giving up the upper level people, there’s no chance of following the directives to the top.

mongoose on June 29, 2013 at 2:22 PM

Oh-oh when Chicago Trib steps up there’s trouble ahead.

RdLake on June 29, 2013 at 2:22 PM

What happens if this investigation or any investigation blows up the IRS? What does the government do to collect?
This has the potential of blowing up the IRS. Will American’s continue to pay their taxes as usual?

d1carter on June 29, 2013 at 2:26 PM

The most political corrupt Attorney General in our history..

If Holder doesn’t end up in a federal prison, there is no justice left in America for the left’s elites, they simply ignore the law.. and the media attacks anyone who points it out.

When did the United States become a banana republic?

We have so much to fix..

If we get back the WH and Senate.. how do we address the raging media corruption that so stained our country without bending the 1st Amendment? Every network but FOX is nothing but an arm of the DNC.

mark81150 on June 29, 2013 at 2:27 PM

American’s

s/b Americans…sheesh.

d1carter on June 29, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Here is a start…

Abolish the IRS

Seven Percent Solution on June 29, 2013 at 2:29 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 29, 2013 at 2:21 PM

IMO it’s not so binary. When did we ever “trust” the State? It’s like a weed that need to be mowed on a regular basis. Relentless, but not omnipotent.

Killing the “Immigration Reform” sell-out would be a good start.

Kenosha Kid on June 29, 2013 at 2:30 PM

The IRS has become too powerful and secretive with layer upon layer of protective laws. How does Congress tear down their revenue arm and still coerce Americans to pay?

d1carter on June 29, 2013 at 1:58 PM

Farm it out to the states. Why have redundant organizations in the states and the federal government doing the same thing? The few states with no income taxes still have a revenue structure, and states should be empowered to farm the work out by contract to accounting firms.

slickwillie2001 on June 29, 2013 at 2:31 PM

WooooHooooooooo….

Not because I agree with Chicago Tribune about a special prosecutor, but because they recognize there’s a problem serious enough to call for one, even while most lefty MSM try to sweep it under the rug.

petefrt on June 29, 2013 at 2:31 PM

If the IRS is abolished, 47% of our population won’t even notice.

NapaConservative on June 29, 2013 at 2:32 PM

petefrt on June 29, 2013 at 2:31 PM

The pile under that rug is getting quite noticeable, isn’t it?

Liam on June 29, 2013 at 2:32 PM

What happens if this investigation or any investigation blows up the IRS? What does the government do to collect?
This has the potential of blowing up the IRS. Will American’s continue to pay their taxes as usual?

d1carter on June 29, 2013 at 2:26 PM

Well, salaried employees get no choice, their employer pulls out the tax money ahead of time, until the employees fill out a new W-4, and specify no taxes with held.

But unless millions refuse to pay, I doubt a tax revolt would work, you KNOW this administration wouldn’t hesitate to rip people limb from limb over an issue like that as an example to the masses.

mark81150 on June 29, 2013 at 2:33 PM

If the IRS is abolished, 47% of our population won’t even notice.

NapaConservative on June 29, 2013 at 2:32 PM

An important detail, to be sure.

Good call.

Liam on June 29, 2013 at 2:34 PM

petefrt on June 29, 2013 at 2:31 PM

OTOH, it may just signal that they have a controllable prosecutor lined up and ready to produce the necessary theatrics. So now the show of reform can begin. This is Chicago we’re talking about here.

Kenosha Kid on June 29, 2013 at 2:36 PM

hum, passed time for that.

mmcnamer1 on June 29, 2013 at 2:36 PM

If the IRS is abolished, 47% of our population won’t even notice.

NapaConservative on June 29, 2013 at 2:32 PM

sure they will…

no more earned income tax credit welfare checks.. where they with held 2,000 and g0t back 8,000 on a return. I tried not applying for it, was kinda upset at no longer being a tax payer.. and wasn’t really sure we qualified anyway..

The IRS sent our tax return back, with a long letter telling me to refile, and an extension to do it in. Seems I had no option NOT to file earned income tax credit, they wouldn’t accept our filing if we didn’t do it.

I’m retired on SSD from a fractured spine, but my wife still works fulltime.. and even though I feel bad about it, we’ have no option not to file for it, the IRS was clear on that.

mark81150 on June 29, 2013 at 2:40 PM

When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, –That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
When your government is corrupt, kill it.
III/0317

dirtengineer on June 29, 2013 at 2:43 PM

The Tribune figures Holder will pick one of their reporters to be ‘special prosecutor’.

Freddy on June 29, 2013 at 2:44 PM

I think I know which major metropolitan newspaper will be next on the IRS audit list…

RoadRunner on June 29, 2013 at 2:45 PM

In other news, the IRS announces a tax fraud probe at the Chicago Tribune. IRS SPOX says there is no relationship between this investigation and the Tribunes’ call for a special prosecutor.

BobMbx on June 29, 2013 at 2:49 PM

I’m retired on SSD from a fractured spine, but my wife still works fulltime.. and even though I feel bad about it, we’ have no option not to file for it, the IRS was clear on that.

mark81150 on June 29, 2013 at 2:40 PM

Well, donate it to SarahPAC or Putins’ re-election campaign. You’ll get better use of it there than with leaving it with the US Treasury.

BobMbx on June 29, 2013 at 2:51 PM

I think I know which major metropolitan newspaper will be next on the IRS audit list…

RoadRunner on June 29, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Nah, they’ll just write it in cursive so the obamamites can’t read it.

VegasRick on June 29, 2013 at 2:54 PM

O/T

I decided that, if I ever need car insurance, it won’t be with Geico.

They advertise too mucking futch.

Liam on June 29, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Impeachment by the House is much preferable to some stupid investigation by a special prosecutor. The Articles of Impeachment have already filled three volumes. What more do these douchebags need?

A Republican Senate to complete the next step in the impeachment process?

joejm65 on June 29, 2013 at 3:03 PM

The Tribune better not stray far from the plantation or they will get a phone call from Valerie “Ma Barker” Jarrett.

jeffinsjvca on June 29, 2013 at 3:10 PM

Well, donate it to SarahPAC or Putins’ re-election campaign. You’ll get better use of it there than with leaving it with the US Treasury.

BobMbx on June 29, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Normally, we use it to help family, personal charity. There is always someone who’s about to loose a home, or can’t buy food after bills.. in the lowest end of the working poor, that’s the way life is in this Obama economy.

My wife might like the Sarah contribution idea though…

A reformed democrat,.. hasn’t voted for one since 96. My evil influence.. I hope.

mark81150 on June 29, 2013 at 3:11 PM

If the IRS is abolished, 47% of our population won’t even notice.

NapaConservative on June 29, 2013 at 2:32 PM

Even though she won’t notice, Rachel Jeantel has a new job as a translator at the United Nations.

Her first day on the job went like this…

Senegalese Am: ‘What did the Uzbek Am say?’

Rachel Jeantel: ‘I don’t know. I don’t hear cursive.’

The United States is no longer a Republic nor a democracy. It’s an idiocracy.

Resist We Much on June 29, 2013 at 3:16 PM

I’m sure the Democrats and the press would love nothing better than a special prosecutor on the IRS case so they can put it behind them. I don’t want one, I want Issa and company to keep digging and doing what they have to do because the Democrats want to be in a position to say, “we can’t comment on that, there’s an on-going investigation.” Holder will get to appoint the prosecutor and you can bet irt will be someone he’s sure will keep this thing going for a long time and not allow it to blow up. I don’t trust Holder, I don’t trust Obama, I don’t trust the Democrats, and I don’t trust the press. Those are all factors that will thwart an unbiased investigation. I’m not sure without one, we’ll ever know the truth, all I do know is that it will cost us millions to come to the same conclusion, with little satisfaction.

Personally, I like the fact the Democrats have to keep looking foolish protecting law breakers and people who abused their power. They can’t even agree with Alan Dershowitz about whether Lois Lerner gave up her 5th Amendment right, now that is sweet.

Let’s keep this going, let it get to the tea party and we’ll try and get the Senate back in 2014. Then, and only then, will we be able to get to the truth. The liars in this administration will keep everything hidden until then and I, for one, want to know the truth.

bflat879 on June 29, 2013 at 3:18 PM

A Republican Senate to complete the next step in the impeachment process?

joejm65 on June 29, 2013 at 3:03 PM

That didn’t work the last time when, in the Republican-controlled Senate, only 45 Senators voted to convict Clinton of perjury and 50 of obstruction of justice.

Need 67 votes to convict and remove.

Resist We Much on June 29, 2013 at 3:18 PM

There is zero chance the House would ever impeach this affirmative action clueless community organizer.

matthew8787 on June 29, 2013 at 3:19 PM

That didn’t work the last time when, in the Republican-controlled Senate, only 45 Senators voted to convict Clinton of perjury and 50 of obstruction of justice.

Need 67 votes to convict and remove.

Resist We Much on June 29, 2013 at 3:18 PM

Good point. Then impeachment doesn’t matter, IMO. Better to try and get a Republican Senate anyway and make O’s last 2 years a living hell.

joejm65 on June 29, 2013 at 3:30 PM

“Why hasn’t Attorney General Eric Holder appointed a special prosecutor?”

Because he’s so ignoble, damnable, and corrupt he makes Nixon’s AG John Mitchell look like a cub scout by comparison.

I despise this administration.

locomotivebreath1901 on June 29, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Our only hope to survive the next 3 years:

Exploit every scandal to damage Obama’s agenda

Slow walk every judicial confirmation

House must refuse to move any Senate bills as payback for years of Reid and Obama obstruction, beginning w this immigration monstrosity. And ALL of us rise up and tell the MSM to go to Hell

Exploit every failure of Obamacare and lay this on the doorstep of every Dem, from US Senate to local dogcatcher

Join and support lawsuits to preserve religious liberty vis-a-vis Obamacare

Do NOT give Dems an escape hatch on medical device tax or any other back-peddling of jobs they knowingly voted to destroy. Force them to live with their handiwork.

Win in 2014 and then stop this rancid nonsense that “Obama’s a nice guy, but…” He is NOT a nice guy. I understand the imperative until the midterms, after that take off the gloves.

matthew8787 on June 29, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Left wing rags can safely call for special prosecutors because they know that Eric Holder is too lawless and corrupt to comply.

paulus1 on June 29, 2013 at 3:34 PM

The pile under that rug is getting quite noticeable, isn’t it?

Liam on June 29, 2013 at 2:32 PM

Yup, more pile than rug nowadays.

petefrt on June 29, 2013 at 3:35 PM

There is zero chance the House would ever impeach this affirmative action clueless community organizer.

matthew8787 on June 29, 2013 at 3:19 PM

Given how “well” the last impeachment went (and that was with 9 more “Republican” Senators), it is utterly pointless to impeach Teh SCOAMT.

Was Clinton removed from office (one of the 2 things Congress can do)? Was he stripped of his pension (the other thing Congress can do)? Was he charged in criminal court? The only thing that happened to Clinton as a result of impeachment (and then indirectly) was his temporary disbarrment.

The bottom line is the House can’t do jack alone, even if they wanted to.

Steve Eggleston on June 29, 2013 at 3:35 PM

If the agency has become a political tool of entrenched power elites in the executive branch, that’s a danger to which almost every American can relate.

I dont see this as a case where the IRS allows itself to be used as a tool by whatever administration chooses to do so regardless of the party in power.

Public employees are overwhelmingly liberal and Democrat and there is virtually no viewpoint diversity in the civil service anywhere in the country. Thats one of the things that needs reforming.

No present-day Republican administration could get away with the vengeful & vindictive BS happening now at the Obama IRS. Lefty careerist whistle blowers would be coming out of the woodwork (which would be a good thing, as it would be if there were any non-liberal whistle blowers in the IRS today which so far it appears there are not) & the cries of indignation would dominate the news.

That’s a far different reality than what is happening today ie liberal administration corruption glossed over and/or excused by liberal media.

Sacramento on June 29, 2013 at 3:36 PM

The United States is no longer a Republic nor a democracy. It’s an idiocracy.

Resist We Much on June 29, 2013 at 3:16 PM

You’re too generous.

You didn’t grow up here, and you’re 20 years younger than I am.

That’s not a criticism, friend. It’s just a statement of fact. Some things that you know of history are what I lived — I saw it on the nightly news before you were born.

I met genuine heroes as a kid — every father of every friend I had was a WWII veteran. That makes him a hero. My favourite aunt was a WAC. I even met the occasional WWI vet.

I’m with you entirely. It’s juuust a bit harder on me to see what I was raised to believe and lived, as opposed to what liberals have done to it all.

Liam on June 29, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Kenosha Kid on June 29, 2013 at 2:36 PM

That’s a definite possibility. They may feel Holder’s lawless DoJ is a better bet than lots of Congressional investigation, especially if Dems lose Senate next year.

petefrt on June 29, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Need 67 votes to convict and remove.

Resist We Much on June 29, 2013 at 3:18 PM

Which means we need 75 Republicans in the Senate to do that. It is a mathematical impossibilty until after the 2016 Congress.

With that said, given that is the only way to take away Teh SCOAMT’s pension, it should be a VERY busy 16 1/2 days in 2017.

Steve Eggleston on June 29, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Agreed, all.

Resist We Much on June 29, 2013 at 3:39 PM

Steve E, that is exactly what I am saying. Even if there were criminal wrongdoing, the House would have Obama resign b4 they’d impeach him.

Why should the House walk that plank alone?

matthew8787 on June 29, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Public employees are overwhelmingly liberal and Democrat and there is virtually no viewpoint diversity in the civil service anywhere in the country. Thats one of the things that needs reforming.

Sacramento on June 29, 2013 at 3:36 PM

Yes, and reigning in public employee unions would be a good start..

petefrt on June 29, 2013 at 3:42 PM

O/T

I decided that, if I ever need car insurance, it won’t be with Geico.

They advertise too mucking futch.

Liam on June 29, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Here are a few more reasons for you:

1) Warren Butthead owns them

2) GEICO stands for Government Employee Insurance Corporation

3) Their ubiquitous commercials suck

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 29, 2013 at 4:07 PM

IF we can get the Democrats out of control of the Senate and retain the House, I can see a chance of impeachment working.

A chance.

As for a Special Prosecutor, he or she better be someone that … sigh…I’m outta steam…

ProfShadow on June 29, 2013 at 4:10 PM

A Republican Senate to complete the next step in the impeachment process?

joejm65 on June 29, 2013 at 3:03 PM

Not that A GOP controlled Senate means anything … but, who cares anyway? The House has to do what’s right and impeachment is right. If the Senate aquits, then impeach the traitors again. And again. And again. There are more than enough impeachable acts by Barky, alone, to keep this up forever. Tie the administration up and stop them from pulling more of their sh!t. The despicable, lying scumbag dems were able to tie the whole Bush admin up for over a year with a bogus Plame trial (not an impeachment, but same idea) for which the prosecutor knew who the “leaker” of the widely known super-secret spy-gal was from the beginning. But that trial went on and on and on and they finally sent Scooter Libby to jail for nothing. That wasn’t “overreach” but the House GOP is scared to hold impeachment proceedings for a guy who has committed so many clearly impeachable crimes and treasonous acts (along with his junta, who are, generally, lawless and wild) because of “overreach”?

Pleeeeeeeease ….

Now, this should have all happened years ago and there isn’t really anything left to save … but while these slugs in the House are collecting their government checks they ought to try and carry out some of their actual, Constitutional responsibilities.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 29, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Even though she won’t notice, Rachel Jeantel has a new job as a translator at the United Nations.

Her first day on the job went like this…

Senegalese Am: ‘What did the Uzbek Am say?’

Rachel Jeantel: ‘I don’t know. I don’t hear cursive.’

The United States is no longer a Republic nor a democracy. It’s an idiocracy.

Resist We Much on June 29, 2013 at 3:16 PM

It certainly was hilarious to see one of our resident Low-IQ Hot Gas Democrats trying to “defend” Rachel Jeantel’s massacre of the English language last night on yesterday’s Trayvon thread. Said we shouldn’t assume she’s dumb, just because she mangles her speech.

Of course, these are the same hypocrites who called Bush an Idiot and a monkey for 8 years, simply because he pronounced the word “nuclear” the exact same way Democrat Nuclear Physicist Jimmy Carter did.

Del Dolemonte on June 29, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Chicago Tribune: Time for a special prosecutor on IRS scandal

…they probably want Hillary Clinton or Susan Rice appointed!

KOOLAID2 on June 29, 2013 at 4:37 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 29, 2013 at 4:07 PM

I’d love getting that lizard, a jar full of ether, and a dissection kit.

Liam on June 29, 2013 at 4:44 PM

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 29, 2013 at 4:07 PM

I forget the company name, but I was able to buy specimens for dissection at my local hobby shop. Frogs were hard to get, though.

Liam on June 29, 2013 at 4:50 PM

This is a diversionary tactic by the Chicago Tribune.

A special prosecutor is the way to kick the can down the road for 2-3 years and end up with a cover up.

The House needs to continue to investigate.

We need to vote in a Republican Senate in 2014 and the Senate can investigate, too.

Then vote in a Republican President in 2016 and the Attorney General will prosecute the crooks.

slp on June 29, 2013 at 4:59 PM

No I want this all aired out in public. Once one is appointed that will be all we hear about it and it will soon be forgotten.

watertown on June 29, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Because the White House and Chicago city hall are run by crooks (aka “incompetents”). Who do they think ordered the Internal Revenge Syndicate to persecute Conservatives? The Easter Bunny?

Seriously, did the Chicago Tribune really ask that question in reference to a gaggle of dirty Chicago pols investigating themselves?

Philly on June 29, 2013 at 5:08 PM

Why didn’t Nixon appoint a special prosecutor for Watergate.

Grunt on June 29, 2013 at 5:17 PM

Hilarious irony — the slimy, bankrupt, liberal rag Tribune calling for a special prosecutor to investigate the corruption of the crook they twice endorsed for President.

Jaibones on June 29, 2013 at 5:31 PM

And who appoints the special prosecutor? Why, Eric Holder, Attorney General of the U.S. So he appoints some lesbian former member of the weather underground. Fox audits henhouse, finds all in order.

wdkeller on June 29, 2013 at 6:06 PM

then follow up with a tar and feather party.

RealMc on June 30, 2013 at 7:32 AM

If the IRS is abolished, 47% of our population won’t even notice.

NapaConservative on June 29, 2013 at 2:32 PM

An important detail, to be sure.

Good call.

Liam on June 29, 2013 at 2:34 PM

sure they will…

no more earned income tax credit welfare checks.. where they with held 2,000 and g0t back 8,000 on a return. I tried not applying for it, was kinda upset at no longer being a tax payer.. and wasn’t really sure we qualified anyway..

The IRS sent our tax return back, with a long letter telling me to refile, and an extension to do it in. Seems I had no option NOT to file earned income tax credit, they wouldn’t accept our filing if we didn’t do it.

I’m retired on SSD from a fractured spine, but my wife still works fulltime.. and even though I feel bad about it, we’ have no option not to file for it, the IRS was clear on that.

mark81150 on June 29, 2013 at 2:40 PM

Even though she won’t notice, Rachel Jeantel has a new job as a translator at the United Nations.

Her first day on the job went like this…

Senegalese Am: ‘What did the Uzbek Am say?’

Rachel Jeantel: ‘I don’t know. I don’t hear cursive.’

The United States is no longer a Republic nor a democracy. It’s an idiocracy.

Resist We Much on June 29, 2013 at 3:16 PM

I stand corrected, I was off by 4%.

NapaConservative on June 30, 2013 at 11:31 AM