Ros-Lehtinen: Yeah, that Senate bill’s going nowhere in the House

posted at 8:46 am on June 28, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen says this with equal parts lament and defiance on CNN this morning. She’d like to see the House pursue its own immigration-reform push, but knows that some of her Republican colleagues don’t want to pass anything that will push the issue into a conference committee. Ros-Lehtinen wants to go to a conference committee, where she believes the House can guarantee a better border-security outcome than the Senate’s bill provides, which she says flat-out will not fly at all in the House:

Ros-Lehtinen points out that Reagan tried this in 1986 and it became part of his legacy … and not in a good way, she concludes, because we now have 11 million illegal immigrants in the country 27 years later. Ros-Lehtinen wants a border-security package considered separately to address the generational failure to fix that problem, but as the first in a sequence that will quickly address the comprehensive issue. Once the House passes its bills, the two sides can “negotiate, compromise” in conference committee and build a bill that will pass both chambers.

That’s what House Republicans fear — that passing anything will set up a conference report that gives away more than it secures. That would leave Republicans in position to kill immigration reform after the negotiations, and the political penalty that would follow could end up pressuring some of their ranks to acquiesce to anything in order to avoid being cast as an obstructionist, or worse.  Boehner has already said he would apply the Hastert Rule to any conference report on immigration reform, but that’s easy to say when the House hasn’t even passed a committee report on anything to do with immigration.  Will he stick to that if the House passes a tougher border-security plan and it gets watered down in committee?  Many Republicans don’t want to find out.

Besides, when will the House get around to passing their bills?  Nothing has come out of committee yet, and there’s only about three weeks left on the legislative schedule before the August recess.  When they come back, both chambers will be working on debt ceilings and FY2014 budgets, which have tighter deadlines than does immigration reform.  There’s a good chance that the House will end up doing nothing on immigration reform, or perhaps only passing a border-security bill that the Senate will ignore.

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Just another racis…..uh….wait, let me work on this a bit.

Bishop on June 28, 2013 at 8:51 AM

NO! Conference committee = Trojan horse = amnesty and all the other crap that will ruin this country even faster.

TxAnn56 on June 28, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Good. Though I can’t say that I fully trust or believe this to be true.

Bmore on June 28, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Bishop on June 28, 2013 at 8:51 AM

About time. You were overdue.

Bmore on June 28, 2013 at 8:52 AM

Still can’t understand why any Republican would volunteer to collude in a victory for Democrats.

BKeyser on June 28, 2013 at 8:53 AM

That’s ok, because most don’t really care much about illegal immigration reform. Most pressing concern is economy and jobs, by a wide margin.

Ta111 on June 28, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Bmore on June 28, 2013 at 8:51 AM

Yo Bmore. Many thanks for the photoshop work. I like to think the Cornyn peso was a burr in his saddle. I slid one under the door at his Houston office one weekend.

But moving on to the House, I’ll probably be needing a Boehner and Ryan peso. :-) You need to set up a tab for me.

TxAnn56 on June 28, 2013 at 8:54 AM

GAYS / GUNS / AMNESTY

No, we can’t focus on jobs, the economy or shrinking the size of the government.

We must concentrate our entire Summer on giving lawbreakers things like free college tuition, cars, phones, medicare, food stamps, etc.

….all part of the EMPTY MEXICO ACT (aka Immigration reform).

the gop is dead.…..and they deserve it.

PappyD61 on June 28, 2013 at 8:55 AM

unfortunately, we get to suffer the consequences.

PappyD61 on June 28, 2013 at 8:56 AM

Still can’t understand why any Republican would volunteer to collude in a victory for Democrats.

BKeyser on June 28, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Malice? Stupidity? Or any other of a number of concepts we can barely wrap our minds around.

Conference committee =/= “This bill is going nowhere.”

gryphon202 on June 28, 2013 at 8:56 AM

We just need to get to conference,negotiate, compromise.

No.
Start over. Try starting with enforcing the laws on the books and see if that helps a bit.

Mimzey on June 28, 2013 at 8:59 AM

TxAnn56 on June 28, 2013 at 8:54 AM

Lol! No tab required for you. Glad to do it. Heading out for my yearly vacay later today. 29 years. Yay!!! Will return in ten days. Have it for you then. ; )

Bmore on June 28, 2013 at 9:00 AM

Ileana knows we are making law…not lechon asado.

Look to her to try to get all the pork out of the bill the Senate rammed down our throats.

She understands that having a secure border comes first.

She also is well aware of the pesky little difference between “legal” immigration and “illegal” violation of federal immigration law.

The House is our last chance to put common sense into this immigration “reform” stuff.

We really do not need “reform.” What we need is a willingness to follow and enforce existing immigration law.

She is also not worried about the political cost…she has broken a lot of rice bowls over the years. And, she does not suffer fools. Boehner and company beware…Ileana will make your lives a living hell if you decide to fold in order to look all nice and wonderful to you BFF’s, the Dems.

coldwarrior on June 28, 2013 at 9:01 AM

The people behind amnesty, the GOP members of the Gang of Eight, and the sudden GOP love for amnesty:

“FWD.us is funding two subsidiaries that are running the ads — the
Republican-leaning, “Americans for a Conservative Direction” and the
Democratic-minded, “Council for American Job Growth.”

“Each group has a board of directors separate from FWD.us, which last week added the backing of Microsoft founder Bill Gates and its CEO Steve Ballmer as well as technology entrepreneur Sean Parker to an already impressive
list of Silicon Valley leaders who have signed on as supporters.”

http://news.yahoo.com/mark-zuckerbergs-political-status-complicated-152645396.html

http://www.fwd.us/our_supporters

http://www.americansforaconservativedirection.com/#about

“Americans for a Conservative Direction” which is the opposite of conservative, blanketing talk radio with ads, and is a wholly owned sock puppet of silicon valley, famously Obama territory.

Viator on June 28, 2013 at 9:02 AM

How about this this: Ignore the Senate bill like Reid does when he doesn’t like something, and the House passes one only for tighter border security. Leave it at that, so the Senate Dems and RINOs can later be asked, when they ignore it or vote down, “Why don’t you want to protect the borders of America?”

Liam on June 28, 2013 at 9:04 AM

Try enforcing the 1986 law first.

For the GOP compromise = capitulation.

davidk on June 28, 2013 at 9:05 AM

Bmore on June 28, 2013 at 9:00 AM

Have a great time. You’ve earned it. Here’s a palate cleanser as the fight moves forward.

S.744 Passes Senate—Pyrrhic Victory For Treason Lobby

TxAnn56 on June 28, 2013 at 9:05 AM

NO CONFERENCE, NO BILL. LET IT DIE.

http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/hoeven-struggles-explain-fence-immigration-bill_737996.html

North Dakota senator John Hoeven, one of the co-writers of the supposedly tougher border enforcement amendment to the Gang of Eight immigration reform bill, appeared Wednesday night on radio host Hugh Hewitt’s nationally syndicated show. Once Hewitt began questioning Hoeven on the details of the border fence provisions of his amendment, the Republican senator had a tough time responding:

Hugh Hewitt: But Senator, I want to stay focused just on the fence, if you don’t mind, in our few minutes.

John Hoeven: Okay, all right. Yeah.

HH: At Section 5b, it says the Southern Border Fencing Strategy, not later than 180 days after the date of the enactment of this act, the secretary of Homeland Security shall establish a strategy to be known as the Southern Border Fencing Strategy, to identify where 700 miles of fencing, including double layer fencing, infrastructure and technology, including ports of entry, should be deployed along the southern border. First question, of those 700 miles, how many miles must be double layered?

JH: Well, it requires what’s called the pedestrian fencing. That’s the minimum, okay? But it requires 700 miles of fencing, and then you’ve got about a 2,000 mile border there, obviously. The Secretary can determine where on that 2,000 miles the fence is most effective, or DHS can, but they have to make it 700 miles of fence. It can’t be the vehicle barricades.

HH: But is it fair to say that there is a zero mile minimum for double layered fencing?

JH: It doesn’t. It has to be at least the pedestrian fencing. It doesn’t specify that it has to be the double layer. That’s correct, Hugh.

HH: Okay. Now how big does the pedestrian fencing have to be?

JH: I’d have to look back at the specs, but it’s, you know, I mean, it’s impressive fencing. It’s not the double layer you’re talking about, but it’s a significant barrier.

HH: Now Senator Hoeven, there aren’t any specs. This is my problem. I’ve read…

JH: No, see, there’s existing pedestrian fence on there, and so when we say pedestrian fence, it has a definition as to the fencing that’s already there. So…

HH: But it doesn’t, it actually doesn’t. I’ve been through the law very carefully. I bring my lawyer’s, not my MBA to it, but I look at it as a Constitutional lawyer. They actually don’t have to do anything. In fact, I was going to ask you, what if they don’t turn in a strategy in 180 days? What’s the law’s penalty?

JH: They’d be breaking the law.

HH: But what’s the penalty?

JH: Well, you’d obviously have to enforce the law, but I mean, it’s like, it would be like saying any law, what…they have to follow the law. They’re required to follow the law, and we would undertake an action to make sure that they do. That’s…

HH: But there is no…

JH: Just like we would for any, you’re asking me a, I think, legal question there, obviously, but just like any law…

HH: Well, there is no citizen standing.

JH: I mean, that would be saying any law we passed, what if they don’t bother to enforce it.

HH: Well, if you and I don’t pay our taxes, the IRS, especially we conservatives, get a phone call from them, and you go to jail. If the Secretary doesn’t do this, in the same way that the 2006 border fencing law was never implemented, nothing bad happens, and no citizen has standing to sue, because there’s no citizen standing provision.

BAM……There you have it…..NO FENCE, NO PENALTY and NOTHING we can do about it.

PappyD61 on June 28, 2013 at 9:06 AM

Better hide the keys to Boehner’s tanning booth until we’re sure.

viking01 on June 28, 2013 at 9:06 AM

Ros-Lehtinen points out that Reagan tried this in 1986 and it became part of his legacy … and not in a good way, she concludes, because we now have 11 million illegal immigrants in the country 27 years later. Ros-Lehtinen wants a border-security package considered separately to address the generational failure to fix that problem, but as the first in a sequence that will quickly address the comprehensive issue.

Secure the Border first. Identify all of the illegals.

Put a Kibosh on La Raza & CAIR and similar anti-american organizations.

Make the Mexican Government stop demographic dumping and make Mexico pay for Mexican criminals in our prisons.

No more food stamps or other gubmint percs. Start with welfare states like California.

After 5 years…then begin the process of drafting a sensible comprehensive immigration reform bill concentrating on the mess of corruption and incompetency.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:07 AM

Try starting with enforcing the laws on the books and see if that helps a bit.

Mimzey on June 28, 2013 at 8:59 AM

Try enforcing the 1986 law first.

davidk on June 28, 2013 at 9:05 AM

I can’t tell you how many times I have been told that this is an unreasonable policy position. I weep for my country.

gryphon202 on June 28, 2013 at 9:07 AM

Congressional register
———————–
Gotta DO something.
Gotta do SOMETHING.
GOTTA do something.
Gotta DO something.
Gotta do SOMETHING.
GOTTA do something.
Gotta DO something.
Gotta do SOMETHING.
GOTTA do something.
Gott… Wait, what?
Well, because.
Because?
Because… ummm…
Well, just because.
OK. Works for me.

bofh on June 28, 2013 at 9:09 AM

Democrats say that illegals are afraid that if we secure the border they’ll be cutoff from their families like East Berlin.

That’s the emotional argument they are using.

UGH!

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:09 AM

BAM……There you have it…..NO FENCE, NO PENALTY and NOTHING we can do about it.

PappyD61 on June 28, 2013 at 9:06 AM

While we’re at it, wanna talk about all the other laws that government breaks at all levels with absolute impunity?

Eh, on second thought, I’d better not. It’s way o/t and I don’t wanna get in trouble.

gryphon202 on June 28, 2013 at 9:09 AM

Better hide the keys to Boehner’s tanning booth until we’re sure.

viking01 on June 28, 2013 at 9:06 AM

Same with the liquor cabinet.

TxAnn56 on June 28, 2013 at 9:09 AM

The Immigration Reform and Control Act (IRCA), Pub.L. 99–603, 100 Stat. 3359, enacted November 6, 1986, also Simpson-Mazzoli Act, is an Act of Congress which reformed United States immigration law.

In brief the act:[1]

required employers to attest to their employees’ immigration status.

made it illegal to knowingly hire or recruit unauthorized immigrants.

legalized certain seasonal agricultural illegal immigrants.

legalized illegal immigrants who entered the United States before January 1, 1982 and had resided there continuously with the penalty of a fine, back taxes due, and admission of guilt. About three million undocumented immigrants were granted legal status.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_Reform_and_Control_Act_of_1986

davidk on June 28, 2013 at 9:10 AM

Same with the liquor cabinet.

TxAnn56 on June 28, 2013 at 9:09 AM

… and the hair spray.

viking01 on June 28, 2013 at 9:11 AM

Still can’t understand why any Republican would volunteer to collude in a victory for Democrats.

BKeyser on June 28, 2013 at 8:53 AM

Easy.

For the establishment country club types, it means they can go back to being the “loyal opposition.”

They wouldn’t be responsible for anything, and they could happily line their pockets and attend DC cocktail parties without icky conservative and/or Tea Party types pressuring them to do things that might embarrass them in front of their friends, ie “the right people.”

DRayRaven on June 28, 2013 at 9:12 AM

When the facts of the Senate bill come out, the Pubbies can run on it

Best solution is to shelf the damn thing and give the Dims nothing

Obstructionism works against evil legislation

TexasJew on June 28, 2013 at 9:12 AM

“We just need to get to conference, negotiate, compromise.”

Nah, you just need to get primaried. Haven’t you learned yet that ‘compromise with Democrats’ means ‘give us what we want or you’re a RAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSST!’?

Resist We Much on June 28, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Democrats say that illegals are afraid that if we secure the border they’ll be cutoff from their families like East Berlin.

That’s the emotional argument they are using.

UGH!

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:09 AM

If they go home, they won’t have to worry about being cut off. Nothing hard about it at all.

Liam on June 28, 2013 at 9:13 AM

Why do we need a bill (other than cheap labor for business interests, more dues payers for the unions, more votes for the big government politicians in both parties to pander to, and the creation of a permanently open border to designed by the “One-world” types to destroy our sovereignty)?

Oh, goodness, look what I said….the answer to my own question. Now all we have to do is figure out which politician pushing this destruction is politically and possibly financially bonded to which special interest group.

Don L on June 28, 2013 at 9:14 AM

“Americans for a Conservative Direction” which is the opposite of conservative, blanketing talk radio with ads, and is a wholly owned sock puppet of silicon valley, famously Obama territory.

Viator on June 28, 2013 at 9:02 AM

That’s Zuckerberg + Bushes/Rove + Soros outfit in an unholy alliance with Gang Ocho.

Big Bizness wants cheap labor to avoid Obamacare & perpetuate cheap wages in industries across the board.

They don’t want the hassel of dealing with american employees and Unions need the illegals to replace the numbers they are losing.

Democrats need the numbers at the polls especially with voter ID laws picking up speed.

That’s why there this push to do it before the next electoral cycle.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:15 AM

Rep. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen says this with equal parts lament and defiance on CNN this morning. She’d like to see the House pursue its own immigration-reform push, but knows that some of her Republican colleagues don’t want to pass anything that will push the issue into a conference committee. Ros-Lehtinen wants to go to a conference committee, where she believes the House can guarantee a better border-security outcome than the Senate’s bill provides, which she says flat-out will not fly at all in the House:

There’s a reason why those Republican “colleagues” of Ros-Lehtinen don’t want to get it to conference committee – all that’s going to come out of there is amnesty and eventual citizenship for current illegals, not any hope that in 20 years, the process won’t be repeated for the 30 million illegals that will be here.

Steve Eggleston on June 28, 2013 at 9:15 AM

I still want to take Quisling Hatch’s sombrero and feed it to him.**

**Memo to our NSA eavesdroppers:

That was meant metaphorically and not an expression of any intent to cause harm to the turncoat “dear friend” of Teddy the Oldsmobile Skipper.

viking01 on June 28, 2013 at 9:16 AM

Do what Reid and the democrats do to almost every bill passed by the House…DON’T EVEN TAKE THE BILL UP! Boehner and the GOP hierarchy can simply let the bill die. They won’t because they do not represent us any more than the democrats do.

THIRD PARTY!

fight like a girl on June 28, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Democrats say that illegals are afraid that if we secure the border they’ll be cutoff from their families like East Berlin….

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:09 AM

I suppose one could very well argue the same thing about the Jihadists that are already here…?

Don L on June 28, 2013 at 9:17 AM

If they go home, they won’t have to worry about being cut off. Nothing hard about it at all.

Liam on June 28, 2013 at 9:13 AM

I agree.

Most of them don’t even want to be citizens…They want to return to the village as rich folks or something.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:17 AM

On October 26, 2006, U.S. President George W. Bush signed The Secure Fence Act of 2006 (Pub.L. 109–367) into law stating, “This bill will help protect the American people. This bill will make our borders more secure. It is an important step toward immigration reform.

The Secure Fence Act of 2006’s goal is to help secure America’s borders to decrease illegal entry, drug trafficking, and security threats by building 700 miles (1,100 km) of physical barriers along the Mexico-United States border.

The Republican Party’s 2012 platform highlighted the fact that the rest of the double fencing was never built and stated that “The double-layered fencing on the border that was enacted by Congress in 2006, but never completed, must finally be built.”
[Emphasis added]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006

Republican party. *spit*

davidk on June 28, 2013 at 9:18 AM

Democrats say that illegals are afraid that if we secure the border they’ll be cutoff from their families like East Berlin.

That’s the emotional argument they are using.

UGH!

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:09 AM

Considering the Berlin Wall was constructed to keep East Germans from exiting, and what is required here is a one-way exit valve with respect to illegals, that’s rich.

Steve Eggleston on June 28, 2013 at 9:18 AM

Democrats say that illegals are afraid that if we secure the border they’ll be cutoff from their families like East Berlin….

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:09 AM

I suppose one could very well argue the same thing about the Jihadists that are already here…?

Don L on June 28, 2013 at 9:17 AM

Yeah.

A lot of illegals crossing the border aint’ hispanics.

Coyotes have gone international.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:19 AM

All these pictures I see with Chuck Schumer standing with a Republican (See: Rube-io or McLame) I imagine this cartoon balloon coming out of Schumer’s head saying:

“I can’t believe these Republican schmucks fell for this immigration bill!”

BigAlSouth on June 28, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Immigration reform is dead and it will stay dead until after the 2014 elections. The Senate vote was just to appease the base and try to motivate them for next year. Now they can say that look the evil Republicans blocked our work to try and get our borders secure, etc….. I honestly don’t understand why everyone got so worked up over it.

Johnnyreb on June 28, 2013 at 9:26 AM

“Build the damn fence!” says hypocrite/opportunist/RINO Johnny McLame fighting for his re-election . . . .

BigAlSouth on June 28, 2013 at 9:26 AM

Which reminds me…..

If Mitch McConnell wears tortoise-shell frames…is that redundant?

viking01 on June 28, 2013 at 9:26 AM

Democrats say that illegals are afraid that if we secure the border they’ll be cutoff from their families like East Berlin.

That’s the emotional argument they are using.

UGH!

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:09 AM

Considering the Berlin Wall was constructed to keep East Germans from exiting, and what is required here is a one-way exit valve with respect to illegals, that’s rich.

Steve Eggleston on June 28, 2013 at 9:18 AM

The only way a fence works is if you have boots on the ground to patrol it and laws that have teeth.

Americans are a bit squeemish about that…Lil’ kids and pregnant women being rounded up and all that.

The Drug Cartels + A corrupt Mexican Government + our economic slump make things worse.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Time for conservatives in the house and senate to call out the senators that loaded up the pork to vote yes. Yes, its time to consume our own. They are betraying us.

DanMan on June 28, 2013 at 9:27 AM

A lot of illegals crossing the border aint’ hispanics.

Coyotes have gone international.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:19 AM

Which segues into the visa overstay provision in the “bill”. Overstay your visa? No problem. Stay as long as you’d like. Fun facts that neither side bring up:

“Yet another escape hatch for illegal aliens is to simply wait for a general amnesty to “adjust their status.” The 1993 WTC bomber Mahmud Abouhalima demonstrated how to do this quite effectively. Having come to the US with a six-month tourist visa in 1985, he overstayed his visa and patiently waited for Congress to grant amnesty for illegals the following year.”

TxAnn56 on June 28, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Anyone remember the strong Bill passed by the republican banking committee in 2005-05 to limit Fannie and Freddie and put controls on the subprime mortgages? It passed with full republican support but dems refused to let it out of committee, where it died. It is widely believed the measures would have headed off the housing bust and financial meltdown.

Dems paid no ‘price’ for killing the bill and putting into motion this horrible recession. So screw that argument.

LASue on June 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM

I honestly don’t understand why everyone got so worked up over it.

Johnnyreb on June 28, 2013 at 9:26 AM

Then you don’t understand John Boehner.

TxAnn56 on June 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM

As a native Texan I want serious border security and sensible effective immigration reform.

Border security.

Then voter ID combined with voter poll enforcement. The voter fraud is unbelievable and under reported.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:32 AM

Geez, a Friday morning with a face like that???

Why not just put Pelosi’s mug up there and ruin the whole weekend?

ToddPA on June 28, 2013 at 9:32 AM

Conference committee = capitulation

NO conference committe…

Gohawgs on June 28, 2013 at 9:32 AM

My previous comment is a reflection of how Kay Bailey Hutchison got turned out. She expected to come back to Texas and win as governor to burnish her executive experience bonifides and got her clock cleaned despite running unapposed as a senator for a few cycles.

Her problem was she answered every request for a response to a question with a form letter telling how much money she brought home. We didn’t want pork, we wanted leadership. It was a harsh lesson. I hope other states follow suit.

Cruz winning ended up giving us two good senators because Cornyn now votes like he campaigns.

DanMan on June 28, 2013 at 9:33 AM

A lot of illegals crossing the border aint’ hispanics.

Coyotes have gone international.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:19 AM

Which segues into the visa overstay provision in the “bill”. Overstay your visa? No problem. Stay as long as you’d like. Fun facts that neither side bring up:

“Yet another escape hatch for illegal aliens is to simply wait for a general amnesty to “adjust their status.” The 1993 WTC bomber Mahmud Abouhalima demonstrated how to do this quite effectively. Having come to the US with a six-month tourist visa in 1985, he overstayed his visa and patiently waited for Congress to grant amnesty for illegals the following year.”

TxAnn56 on June 28, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Agreed.

I knew a guy (musician) when I was in college who overstayed his visa for over 10 years.

Every time he smelled sumthin he’d enroll in a college again. He finally left when his own family got fed up…told him to grow up and come home to help run the family business.

Now he’s married, has a kid and lives in his native Greece.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:35 AM

The 2010 mid-term elections was a victory by the GOP in the House not seen in 7 decades–there was a reason–to stop Harry and Oblamer’s agenda. DO NOT EVEN TAKE UP THIS BILL citing we are more interested in an agenda to get the economy moving forward.

hillsoftx on June 28, 2013 at 9:37 AM

My previous comment is a reflection of how Kay Bailey Hutchison got turned out. She expected to come back to Texas and win as governor to burnish her executive experience bonifides and got her clock cleaned despite running unapposed as a senator for a few cycles.

Her problem was she answered every request for a response to a question with a form letter telling how much money she brought home. We didn’t want pork, we wanted leadership. It was a harsh lesson. I hope other states follow suit.

Cruz winning ended up giving us two good senators because Cornyn now votes like he campaigns.

DanMan on June 28, 2013 at 9:33 AM

As long as California is callin’ the shots we will never have real security or reform.

Texas doesn’t want to be California…ever.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:43 AM

Now he’s married, has a kid and lives in his native Greece.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Apparently he knew where Greece was headed and stayed away as long as he could. Now Barky has turned us into Greece.

viking01 on June 28, 2013 at 9:44 AM

My previous comment is a reflection of how Kay Bailey Hutchison got turned out. She expected to come back to Texas and win as governor to burnish her executive experience bonifides and got her clock cleaned despite running unapposed as a senator for a few cycles.

Her problem was she answered every request for a response to a question with a form letter telling how much money she brought home. We didn’t want pork, we wanted leadership. It was a harsh lesson. I hope other states follow suit.

Cruz winning ended up giving us two good senators because Cornyn now votes like he campaigns.

DanMan on June 28, 2013 at 9:33 AM

I couldn’t stand Hutchinson (A Bush Family Tool if there ever was one.)

I’m glad Perry trounced her lame rhino a$$ and she’s ridden into the sunset.

I think Cruz is outstanding…and Cornyn has recovered at least one testicle so there’s hope.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:46 AM

How about we start deporting 1 Million or so illegals, and then see how the Democrats feel about compromising with reality at that point.

HopeHeFails on June 28, 2013 at 9:47 AM

What a great idea for an infrastructure/stimulus bill: building a 2000 mile concrete wall.

xuyee on June 28, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Now he’s married, has a kid and lives in his native Greece.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Apparently he knew where Greece was headed and stayed away as long as he could. Now Barky has turned us into Greece.

viking01 on June 28, 2013 at 9:44 AM

Nah.

He’s a stupid liberal.

He just didn’t want to grow up.

He makes some decent music but otherwise he’s an idiot and has absolutely no common sense politically or economically.

Basically he’s an upper middleclass trust fund baby who married another upper middleclass trust fund baby & now they are stuck in a splodin’ Greece.

He’s also a Sephardic Jew and he should save money and immigrate to Israel as soon as he can cause Greece is skatin’ close to a Fascist Nationalist conflict…and it won’t be pretty.

I tell him this and he thinks I’m being paranoid.

What can I say…He’s a stupid liberal who didn’t learn anything by living here…especially living in Texas.

*shrug*

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:53 AM

I couldn’t stand Hutchinson (A Bush Family Tool if there ever was one.)

I’m glad Perry trounced her lame rhino a$$ and she’s ridden into the sunset.

I think Cruz is outstanding…and Cornyn has recovered at least one testicle so there’s hope.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:46 AM

Dick Armey sure did a full 180 on his once claimed principles awhile back.

viking01 on June 28, 2013 at 9:54 AM

What can I say…He’s a stupid liberal who didn’t learn anything by living here…especially living in Texas.

*shrug*

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:53 AM

No need to say stupid liberal when just Liberal will do!

viking01 on June 28, 2013 at 9:56 AM

He’d have to be crazy to want to leave Texas.

viking01 on June 28, 2013 at 9:57 AM

The 11 million number is laughable. There probably are 11 million illegals in just California and Texas.

LASue on June 28, 2013 at 9:58 AM

John Hinderaker, at Powerline, says it better than I, regarding the now-fated Senate bill:

. The fundamental problem with the bill is what it does with legal immigration. Instead of reforming our Ted Kennedy-inspired, irrational 60s-era immigration regime, it perpetuates it and even makes it worse. Thus, the Bill authorizes somewhere between 30 million and 60 million new legal immigrants over the next ten years, 90% of them low-skill and low-wage. The Democrats hope this will create a mammoth and permanent underclass that will be forever dependent on government for security, and will reliably vote Democrat for generations. Certain business interests hope the bill will deal a crippling blow to America’s working class, driving down wages and providing an inexhaustible supply of cheap labor.

Anything the House comes up with must not in any way resemble that.

M240H on June 28, 2013 at 9:59 AM

I couldn’t stand Hutchinson (A Bush Family Tool if there ever was one.)

I’m glad Perry trounced her lame rhino a$$ and she’s ridden into the sunset.

I think Cruz is outstanding…and Cornyn has recovered at least one testicle so there’s hope.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:46 AM

Dick Armey sure did a full 180 on his once claimed principles awhile back.

viking01 on June 28, 2013 at 9:54 AM

I think Perry was trying to get rid of Dewhurst and that’s why he backed him.

After losing control of the senate to an unruly mob I think (hope) Dewhurst is done…I guess we’ll see.

It’s a mess.

Perry and Cruz are pretty simpatico politically.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:59 AM

What can I say…He’s a stupid liberal who didn’t learn anything by living here…especially living in Texas.

*shrug*

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:53 AM

No need to say stupid liberal when just Liberal will do!

viking01 on June 28, 2013 at 9:56 AM

He’d have to be crazy to want to leave Texas.

viking01 on June 28, 2013 at 9:57 AM

He didn’t want to leave.

Immigration was on his ass and his family lowered the boom on him.

He went back home and his long suffering fiance married him (she’s a plain simple girl)…Now he’s got a kid and has gone full throttle EU jackassery. Gets on FB all the time to denounce our policies or something.

I avoid FB as much as possible…but occasionally check in to troll his posts.

I have quite a few liberal friends who pontificate in social media…It’s an occupational hazard being a professional artist.

But there it is.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Democrats say that illegals are afraid that if we secure the border they’ll be cutoff from their families like East Berlin.

That’s the emotional argument they are using.

If illegals aren’t currently worried about being cut off from their families, then that’s pretty much a declaration of how porous the border actually is.
Very nice of the Dems to provide more evidence of the fact.

lynncgb on June 28, 2013 at 10:07 AM

NO MORE LAWS!

Try Enforcing the current immigration laws that Congress previously passed. Their only fault is spineless Congress won’t enforce them.

trs on June 28, 2013 at 10:07 AM

The 11 million number is laughable. There probably are 11 million illegals in just California and Texas.

LASue on June 28, 2013 at 9:58 AM

Notice that these so-called immigration reform expert panels never ever have Texans.

California & Nevada run that show…and Nevada isn’t even a Border State although in the Senate Bill she becomes one.

Vegas needs a bail out….so there ya go.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 10:08 AM

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:59 AM

Don’t count out Joe Stauss’s contribution to the debacle. He could have delivered the house vote before the weekend and had the new hero talking for three days. He waited and that made the clock a factor. Dewhurst dropped the ball but Strauss is the one that kicked it out of bounds.

These two colluded on killing the sanctuary city bill two years ago in pretty much the same fashion. This time they may not have intended to kill it but they are responsible.

DanMan on June 28, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Democrats say that illegals are afraid that if we secure the border they’ll be cutoff from their families like East Berlin.

That’s the emotional argument they are using.

If illegals aren’t currently worried about being cut off from their families, then that’s pretty much a declaration of how porous the border actually is.
Very nice of the Dems to provide more evidence of the fact.

lynncgb on June 28, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Texans want to secure the border and this can be done without impacting the economy too much if…

Mexico has an understanding via the Texas Way if ya get my drift…But only a native conservative Texan can do it.

Cruz is more of a native conservative Texan then Bush ever was.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Don’t count out Joe Stauss’s contribution to the debacle. He could have delivered the house vote before the weekend and had the new hero talking for three days. He waited and that made the clock a factor. Dewhurst dropped the ball but Strauss is the one that kicked it out of bounds.

These two colluded on killing the sanctuary city bill two years ago in pretty much the same fashion. This time they may not have intended to kill it but they are responsible.

DanMan on June 28, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Yep!

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 10:13 AM

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 10:05 AM

That was just a compliment to Texas except the creepier commie parts of Austin and Sheila Jackass-Lee’s constituents.

viking01 on June 28, 2013 at 10:31 AM

Cruz is more of a native conservative Texan then Bush ever was.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Bush was a yankee, born in New Haven CT who masqueraded as a Texan.

TxAnn56 on June 28, 2013 at 10:39 AM

There’s a good chance that the House will end up doing nothing on immigration reform, or perhaps only passing a border-security bill that the Senate will ignore.

Best thing that could happen.

Barred on June 28, 2013 at 10:40 AM

Heres your border fix.

Recuit all the military snipers and set them up bunkers 300 yards from the border.

Shoot anything in the kill zone.

Until America is ready to do that then I don’t want to hear the word “amnesty”.

redguy on June 28, 2013 at 11:00 AM

There’s a good chance that the House will end up doing nothing on immigration reform, or perhaps only passing a border-security bill that the Senate will ignore.

The House should not take up the issue of an “immigration bill”. The danger is that they pass “something” and then the Senate puts all their crap back in and they pass it like they did ObamaCare.

redguy on June 28, 2013 at 11:01 AM

and the political penalty that would follow could end up pressuring some of their ranks to acquiesce to anything in order to avoid being cast as an obstructionist, or worse

Well, considering that no matter what they do they will be cast as the worst thing imaginable. So, realizing that they will never get pats on the back, maybe they should just focus on representing the people that voted them, instead of trying to represent the media.

rjcylon on June 28, 2013 at 11:24 AM

TxAnn56 on June 28, 2013 at 9:05 AM

Great link! Thanks for putting it up. I didn’t know about VDare.com but now I will because I added it to my collection of RSS feeds.

PatriotGal2257 on June 28, 2013 at 11:46 AM

NO CONFERENCE !

stenwin77 on June 28, 2013 at 12:06 PM

Yesterday when I called Sen. Reid’s DC office and referred to the
“foreign invaders” the young kid on phone duty called my remarks “calumny”.

I explained to the uneducated youngster that citizens from other countries were, indeed, “foreigners’, and asked him to look up definition #2 of “invasion”: “a large number of people coming to a place”.

I asked him if America was a “place” and if one million was a “large number”. The truth hurts, dude.

Coincidentally, last night on ABC Nightline, the invasion was the lead story (Thanks ABC — just in time to miss the big vote!!!)

Near the end of the video a tribal leader talks about “invasion” and says “the border is not secure”.

His sister’s home is repeatedly broken into, I suppose, by domestic residents, not “foreign invaders”..

Duh. Double duh.

http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/video/nightline-062713-19516006

fred5678 on June 28, 2013 at 12:54 PM

Even the WS sees the darkness.

Schadenfreude on June 28, 2013 at 1:19 PM

They should get a load of feedback from the ‘dormant’ TEA party when they go home.

Schadenfreude on June 28, 2013 at 1:25 PM

Cruz is more of a native conservative Texan then Bush ever was.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Bush was a yankee, born in New Haven CT who masqueraded as a Texan.

TxAnn56 on June 28, 2013 at 10:39 AM

Yep.

It’s one reason Rove hates Perry as well…Perry is a native conservative…even when he was a democrat he was a conservative and he’s steadily moved to the right like many Texans have.

Rove and his ilk see Perry as an embarrassment…Too conservative…Too Christian…Too Cowboy…Too Aggie and Way too plain spoken…But that’s how Perry wins elections.

He goes to Texans and meets then face to face in Townhalls etc. and there is discussion…Which is what Texans like.

Most Texans just want the politicians they elect to do the job they elect them to do…and keep the speeches down to 15 minutes so the BBQ doesn’t get cold.

Most Texans don’t even think about Perry until there’s a legislative session. Texans want Gubmint outta their hair.

I don’t think Perry will run for governor again, who knows he’s supposed to announce a decision soon…but he might run for POTUS if another experienced small government conservative doesn’t run and he’ll be better prepared.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Texan from Lubbock called into Rush and confirmed to Rush that illegals don’t want to be citizens cause they don’t want to pay taxes or lose their jobs to new OTM’s and more illegals.

Rush said “So Republicans who think they will win over Hispanics by granting amnesty will be hated by them because most Hispanics don’t want amnesty…Right? ”

Texan replied “Yep! and there will be more illegals as a result of amnesty competing for jobs with current illegals.”

Rush was of course dumbfounded…But Texans aren’t.

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 3:08 PM

That would leave Republicans in position to kill immigration reform after the negotiations, and the political penalty that would follow could end up pressuring some of their ranks to acquiesce to anything in order to avoid being cast as an obstructionist, or worse.

Why do you keep writing drivel like this?

No matter what the republicans do, they cannot avoid being cast as obstructionist AND worse. They could give in to every democrat demand tomorrow and they would still be cast as obstructionist AND worse.

The 2014 playbook is already written. It’s already being used. They are already being cast as obstructionist AND worse. There is simply no avoiding it. And you know it, so why keep writing down such thoughts as I’ve quoted above???

runawayyyy on June 28, 2013 at 3:13 PM

Democrats say that illegals are afraid that if we secure the border they’ll be cutoff from their families like East Berlin.

That’s the emotional argument they are using.

UGH!

workingclass artist on June 28, 2013 at 9:09 AM

If they are so emotionally tied to their relatives, why not move back to Mexico.

It amazes me how the Senate bill, the Democrats and RINOs are so intent on placating people who are breaking our laws simply by being in the country. Others have committed more serious crimes like identity theft and forgery.

bw222 on June 28, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Viator on June 28, 2013 at 9:02 AM

When we think of big business, we typically think of automotive manufacturers, appliances manufacturers, oil companies.

The big business pushing this are companies like Facebook, Google, Yahoo, Yelp, etc. who are looking for cheap programmers and systems analysts from foreign countries rather than hiring Americans.

bw222 on June 28, 2013 at 4:28 PM

She made a very strong statement. She reminded people that the House is a separate, legal body that can write its own bills and utilize Congressional rules to find a compromise. Maybe the media will stop pestering the GOP and allow them to do their jobs. LOL
The GOP would be wise and start a campaign for the blacks in this country that will be affected the most. Their unemployment rate is in double digits. They have been waiting patiently for jobs to appear. (And most green jobs go to college educated people. I don’t know the breakdown by race, but I would imagine it isn’t good.) Now, we are flooding the US with 11 million more people and they will have to compete with them for any job that comes up. Who’s looking out for the poor and who’s looking out for voters? This is the time to get the black vote back.

djaymick on June 28, 2013 at 4:35 PM

When will the Senate be passing their version of Cut Cap and Balance ?
When will the the Senate be passing their version of the Repeal of Obamacare?

I’m giddy with excitement in this new era of bipartisanship to see that both Chambers will be working hard to pass each other’s partisan bills and split the difference in the Conference Committees.

Afterseven on June 29, 2013 at 2:30 PM