Second day of inter-militia fighting in Tripoli

posted at 9:21 am on June 27, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Six weeks ago, the US and UK issued travel warnings to avoid Libya if possible, and not to go outside of Tripoli unless unavoidable.  Both countries reduced their diplomatic staff in the capital they liberated through an air war that toppled former dictator Moammar Qaddafi two years earlier, as militias rolled into the streets and the Libyan government could do nothing to dislodge them.  Over the last two days, those militias have begun fighting in Tripoli, and residents now seek shelter from the war that has arrived on the last holdout in Libya:

A tense calm prevailed over Libya’s capital Thursday after days of chaos left at least seven people dead — including a 12-year-old boy.

But it’s unclear if the violence is really over — or even who the warring groups are.

Sounds of heavy gunfire and explosions echoed across Tripoli on Wednesday night, sending waves of confusion and panic as residents weren’t sure who was behind the attacks. …

On Tuesday, an armed group attacked the headquarters of the Petroleum Facilities Protection Guard (PFG) in the Salaheddin district of the capital.

The Libyan government said at least five people were killed and nearly two dozen others wounded in the heavy fighting.

The PFG — a Ministry of Defense force tasked with protecting Libya’s oil field — said an armed group from the western city of Zintan surrounded at attacked its Tripoli headquarters.

Reuters has more on the rise of the militias outside of Tripoli, and their ambitions to seize power:

Armed groups made up of former rebel fighters from different parts of the country have grown in power and ambition nearly two years after Gaddafi was ousted and the government has struggled to impose its authority over them.

The latest fighting started on Tuesday morning when a militia given the job of guarding a major Libyan oil field attacked the headquarters of the national body set up to guard oil facilities across the country.

The group from the western town of Zintan was disgruntled after another group was given supervision of a drill in the area, officials said.

That fighting triggered widespread resentment in Tripoli against fighters from Zintan and by Wednesday, parts of the city were caught in fighting between people from that town and other areas.

The Libya Herald reports that the clash comes from militias loyal to different ministries within the Libyan government itself:

For the second day running, violence returned today to Tripoli  with confused fighting between rival groups  in and around the Abu Saleem district which left at least two people dead, including a young bystander and around two dozen people injured.

The renewed fighting was between brigades nominally under the control of the Interior Ministry and  other units supposedly taking their orders from the Ministry of Defence and by extension the armed forces.

If that’s not enough to bring confidence in a central government to microscopic proportions, the response from the government itself shows just how impotent they are in the face of the militias:

Nevertheless the violence prompted an angry denunciation from the Acting Chief of Staff Salem Gnaidi  this evening in a radio statement. He warned that anyone carrying a weapon in the capital should be disarmed. However he went on to say that the army was not yet strong enough to disarm outside militias itself unaided and therefore called on local militias to assist it.

The government meanwhile issued a statement confirming GNC Resolution 27 demanding Tripoli be made free of all armed groups.

If statements and resolutions could clear streets, no nation would ever need security forces.  The Libyan government put into place by NATO intervention and largely propped up by Western diplomacy and cash can’t even control the streets of its own capital.

All of this should be an object lesson to those who want to intervene on behalf of radical Sunni militias in Syria against another entrenched dictator, especially by claiming the pretense that the moderates will control the outcome.  It should be an object lesson … but probably will be ignored, at least until the terrorist networks sack Tripoli and raise a black flag over its ruins.

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Obama wants us involved in every Mid-East tempest except the one where we could have done some good: Iran.
When they had their uprising, even just words of encouragement from the POTUS for the rebels would have been lifeblood, & words of condemnation for the mad mullahs & corruptocrats from AckMyDumbJihad on down would have hurt them. Yet Obama merely yawned.
But let radical Islamofascists rise up against moderate Muslims, & Obama is all over that, & has been repeatedly.

itsnotaboutme on June 27, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Something tells me the “militias” are related to the murderers of Ambassador Stevens and three other Americans last September.

Steve Eggleston on June 27, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Eat it Barry, you cooked it.

Akzed on June 27, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Eat it Barry, you cooked it.

Akzed on June 27, 2013 at 9:30 AM

“Tastes like dog.”

-Teh SCOAMT

Steve Eggleston on June 27, 2013 at 9:31 AM

Second day of inter-militia fighting in Tripoli

At this point, What difference does it make??

ToddPA on June 27, 2013 at 9:36 AM

From the Halls of Montezuma,
To the shores of Tripoli;
We fight our country’s battles
In the air, on land, and sea;
First to fight for right and freedom
And to keep our honor clean:
We are proud to claim the title
Of United States Marine.

It’s almost like the most anti-American President picks his folly’s on purpose. The Halls of Montezuma are closing in on us, we getting disgraced in Tripoli, we no longer fight for right and freedom, but push surveillance and “security”. And honor is such a foreign concept to liberals and RINOs. What was Detroit’s nickname before it fell apart? The Arsenal of Democracy. It’s destruction was on purpose, and done from the inside. American’s have become so messed up that most American’s celebrate killing babies, and think depraved perverts are now wonderful, and we are giving our country away to anyone willing to break it’s laws. The only people who get punished now are good Americans while the trash is free to inflict it’s terror.

Flange on June 27, 2013 at 9:40 AM

Egyptian politician calls U.S. Ambassador Patterson ‘member of Muslim Brotherhood sleeper cell’

…in a recent live interview on Tahrir TV, former Egyptian Member of Parliament, Mustafa Bakari, exposed the relationship between Patterson and Khairat al-Shater, the deputy leader of the Muslim Brotherhood. Among other things, he pointed out how she recently visited him at his private residence—as opposed to the party’s headquarters—where she likely discussed with him internal matters concerning Egypt, including how “we [the U.S.] will stand with you [regarding the June 30 protests],” adding that she sees and treats him as the “true ruler of the nation.”

Libyan Intelligence: Muslim Brotherhood, Morsi Involved in U.S. Consulate Attack

According to the report, during interrogations, these Egyptian jihadi cell members “confessed to very serious and important information concerning the financial sources of the group and the planners of the event and the storming and burning of the U.S. consulate in Benghazi…. And among the more prominent figures whose names were mentioned by cell members during confessions were: Egyptian President Mohamed Morsi; preacher Safwat Hegazi; Saudi businessman Mansour Kadasa, owner of the satellite station, Al-Nas; Egyptian Sheikh Muhammad Hassan; former presidential candidate, Hazim Salih Abu Isma’il…”…

~

“Hey! Look over there, Ed Snowdon! Whom the NSA, the world’s foremost code-cracking surveillance monger, let steal everything from it with a thumb drive, and then let him outa the country!”

Akzed on June 27, 2013 at 9:40 AM

Here’s a novel idea….

Let’s declare a no-fly zone…and then start bombing places that look like they might be winning…and then let a bunch of jihadis and AQ types storm armories and munitions depots and arm themselves…and then let them take all the new shiny stuff to other countries…and have another couple thousand or so innocents slaughtered, and a nation’s economy shattered…

Like Obama did last time.

This one is entirely 100% on Obama…can’t blame Bush, can’t sat he inherited it.

Obama’s smart power, as it turns out, it pretty damn stupid…

Was Ghadaffi really all that terrible, that much of a threat to the region, that much a threat to world peace?

coldwarrior on June 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Goons kill’n Goons.

Kaos Erupt’us!

canopfor on June 27, 2013 at 9:44 AM

At this point, What difference does it make??

ToddPA on June 27, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Recycled Comment of the Day™. That mock is never going to get old.

Steve Eggleston on June 27, 2013 at 9:44 AM

Akzed on June 27, 2013 at 9:40 AM

Disgusting, isn’t it?

coldwarrior on June 27, 2013 at 9:44 AM

Steve Eggleston on June 27, 2013 at 9:44 AM

A fitting epitaph, when the time comes.

coldwarrior on June 27, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Akzed on June 27, 2013 at 9:40 AM

I say, “Hot DAMN!”

Steve Eggleston on June 27, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Disgusting, isn’t it? coldwarrior on June 27, 2013 at 9:44 AM

Well, at least SCOTUS has temporarily mollified our sodomists.

Akzed on June 27, 2013 at 9:47 AM

Both countries reduced their diplomatic staff

The U.S. reduced its diplomatic staff last year by two.

Bishop on June 27, 2013 at 9:51 AM

This is a case of “kill them all, let God Allah somebody else but us sort it out.”

DAT60A3 on June 27, 2013 at 9:52 AM

Was Gaddafi really all that terrible, that much of a threat to the region, that much a threat to world peace?

coldwarrior on June 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Yes. But only because every country in “Arab Crescent” is.

They just don’t work and play well with others. And when a government is replaced, the replacement is even more violent, unstable, and anti-civilization. Just as Qaddafi and his clique of junior officers were, when they overthrew King Idriss in 1969.

The difference between Qaddafi and his successors is that they have no patience. They want a worldwide Caliphate, and they want it now.

Whether this makes them more or less dangerous than Qaddafi would have been, only time will tell.

clear ether

eon

eon on June 27, 2013 at 9:54 AM

Obama’s smart power, as it turns out, it pretty damn stupid…

Was Ghadaffi really all that terrible, that much of a threat to the region, that much a threat to world peace?

coldwarrior on June 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM

coldwarrior: As HilRod would say,

** StateCraft Babee **!:)

canopfor on June 27, 2013 at 9:54 AM

It’s almost as if they need a tight-fisted dictator in those parts, otherwise chaos reigns. Hmmm.

changer1701 on June 27, 2013 at 9:58 AM

changer1701 on June 27, 2013 at 9:58 AM

Culturally, historically, yep…

coldwarrior on June 27, 2013 at 9:59 AM

All of this should be an object lesson to those who want to intervene on behalf of radical Sunni militias in Syria…

I objected getting involved in Libya. But, whatever.

BigGator5 on June 27, 2013 at 10:23 AM

Now this is hope & change!! More Muslim on Muslim violence.
We can only hope they all kill each other before they start back up with us.

redguy on June 27, 2013 at 10:32 AM

Obama’s smart power, as it turns out, it pretty damn stupid…

Duh, who the hell coined the term “smart power”??? Samantha Power perhaps?

Obama needs to brew up a big batch of Kool Aid…..
He needs about 30,000,000 cups.

redguy on June 27, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Nobel Peace Prize for the win!

hillsoftx on June 27, 2013 at 10:35 AM

The government meanwhile issued a statement confirming GNC Resolution 27 demanding Tripoli be made free of all armed groups.

Why don’t they just put up a bunch of “Gun Free Zone” signs??? Surely that’ll work….

runawayyyy on June 27, 2013 at 11:28 AM

Another Victory for Leading From Behind.
Valerie, Susan, Samantha, Hillary, et al, can be so proud of their child.

When better morons are made, the Progressive Wing of the Democrat Party (redundancy alert) will make them, but it’s a very high bar.

Another Drew on June 27, 2013 at 1:17 PM

Nobel Peace Prize for the win!

hillsoftx on June 27, 2013 at 10:35 AM

Yup! Thread winner right there.

yesiamapirate on June 27, 2013 at 1:19 PM

All of this should be an object lesson to those who want to intervene on behalf of radical Sunni militias in Syria against another entrenched dictator, especially by claiming the pretense that the moderates will control the outcome. It should be an object lesson

It should be. But that would presume an interest in learning. I’m not seeing it.

There Goes the Neighborhood on June 27, 2013 at 1:20 PM