Open thread: Final Senate vote on Gang of Eight bill set for 4 p.m. ET; Update: Bill passes, 68/32

posted at 3:21 pm on June 27, 2013 by Allahpundit

The final cloture vote was held this morning and passed with 68 yeses, two shy of Schumer’s goal at the start of this process. After three days of pleading with fencesitters and, no doubt, tempting them with earmarks and other legislative kickbacks to bring them on board, they still couldn’t get to 70. The 14 Republicans who voted yes this morning:

I’m laying that down as a marker in case any of them votes no this afternoon in a cheap attempt to convince their constituents that they’re actually against the bill. As for why the Gang didn’t get to 70, why would they at this point? Fencesitters are facing a rising tide of grassroots pressure plus the unwelcome fact that both Boehner and Paul Ryan have insisted the Senate bill won’t even get a vote in the House. (House deputy whip Peter Roskam called it “a pipe dream.”) The whole point of having 70 yeses in the Senate was, in theory, to put pressure on the House to act, but the backlash to Rubio and the bill among conservative media and activists has eliminated that. If you’re Rob Portman, say, what do you gain at this point by voting for a bill that won’t be enacted and that may earn you bitter opposition in a primary? Not to keep picking on Rubio, but this really does boil down to his inability, despite his best attempts, to sell the bill to the right. Even if he couldn’t persuade them to support it, it would have been a huge win for pro-amnesty Republicans if he had managed to temper the intensity of the opposition. That might have gotten the Senate closer to 80 yeses, notwithstanding the bill’s fate in the House, which would have helped the GOP leadership with its PR efforts towards Latino voters. As it is, only a minority of the caucus is supporting it. I don’t blame Rubio for failing at what was probably an impossible task, but he did fail.

By the way, don’t look now but the bill is starting to sound creaky among liberals too. The NYT has a piece out this morning about lefties grumbling that the weak Corker/Hoeven border-security provisions (see this account of Hugh Hewitt’s brutal interview with Hoeven to understand how weak) are nonetheless too strong for their liking. Meanwhile, at TNR, T.A. Frank makes the Kaus-ian case that the bill will be a disaster for the working class:

All in all, I became convinced that high levels of low-skill immigration are good for wealthy Americans and bad for poor Americans. Far more important, high levels of illegal immigration—when you start to get into the millions, as we have—undermines unions and labor standards, lowers wages, heightens social tensions, strains state budgets, widens income inequality, subverts the rule of law, and exacerbates class divides. The effects go far beyond wages, because few undocumented workers earn enough to cover anything close to the cost of government services (such as education for their children) they require, and those services are most important to low-income Americans. In short, it’s an immense blow to America’s working class and poor.

Most labor unions support the current legislation, of course, but few of them seem to acknowledge the possibility of a mass influx of a future illegal workforce. In part, that’s because the SEIU and many other unions have thousands of undocumented members, and raising a fuss about enforcement or opposing the current bill would alienate their own members. It’s probably also that they believe, unrealistically, that the bill would be effective at controlling the border in the future.

And a lot of Democrats have also convinced themselves that even if there’s a wage loss to low-skilled workers, the massive new voting bloc of mostly left-leaning immigrants will ultimately help the little guy. But if millions of new Democratic voters oppose strict immigration control, then there will no Democratic support for meaningful immigration control. And generous social benefits cannot coexist with an open border. (Nor can a more egalitarian society.)

One of the things that helped kill McCain’s last amnesty effort a few years ago was this same objection being championed by Democrats like Byron Dorgan. If House Democrats start to peel off because of it on top of the fact that some will peel off in objection to the border measures proposed by the GOP House majority, then reform is almost certainly dead.

While we wait for the vote, enjoy Patty Murray admitting that she doesn’t know precisely how many DUIs an illegal would be allowed to rack up before he’s disqualified from amnesty under the Gang of Eight bill. A few days ago, no fewer than five Democrats in favor of the bill admitted they weren’t sure if it creates an incentive under ObamaCare for employers to hire illegals over citizens. Has anyone in the Senate thought about this bill in any detail at all? Should we maybe have held some hearings and delayed the cloture vote before rushing this travesty over to the House?

Update: I mentioned a few days ago about how grumpy McCain had gotten with Deb Fischer over her opposition to the bill, but I didn’t see the video until last night. Here you go. Apparently, if you haven’t physically visited the border recently, your concerns about the Gang’s security provisions are stupid.

Update: Tim Mak asks a good question. Isn’t Republican leadership supposed to be, at a minimum, agnostic about the Gang’s bill as part of their outreach to Latinos? Here’s NRSC spokesman Brad Dayspring:

“It’s just another sign that even vulnerable [pro-amnesty] Democrats like Landrieu, Begich, Hagan and Pryor are more loyal to Chuck Schumer and Barack Obama than they are to middle-class men and women struggling in their home states.”

The problem: What about Republicans supporting the immigration bill? Couldn’t that same criticism — that a yes vote demonstrates an allegiance to national party leaders over constituents — be extended to GOP senators who support ongoing immigration reform efforts, especially in states where public opinion is mixed on the issue?

Schumer’s been know to refer to pro-amnesty GOP senators as “our Republicans.” I understand that politics is a cynical game, but bashing red-state Democrats for selling out on the border while backslapping the Rubios of the world for their outreach is really something. How do you reconcile them? Quote:

Republican strategists say their party needs to improve its performance among Hispanic voters, the fastest growing major electoral bloc, to remain competitive in future elections.

But they view Hispanic voters as more important in the 2016 presidential election than the 2014 midterm elections, which will have lower turnout.

So the party stays officially anti-amnesty for three more years, then makes a hard pro-amnesty pivot for the presidential campaign? I can’t imagine that backfiring with anyone, except for … everyone.

Update: The deed is done: 68 yes votes, same as in this morning’s cloture vote. No roll yet but I see on Twitter that 14 Republicans voted yes, the same number that voted yes this morning. Presumably it’s the same 14. It’s a small relief that none of the Republicans in favor stooped to ye olde yes-on-cloture-no-on-the-final-bill game. And in the end, they still couldn’t get to 70.

Here’s something lofty to carry you into the evening from the Republican Party’s new best friend:

“In choosing this country, whether it’s my friend Marco Rubio’s parents from Cuba or my parents and great-grandparents who fled persecution from Europe, immigrants bring an appreciation for the choices and opportunities that are unique to America,” Schumer said. “Immigrants have been an essential component to our American success story. To reject this basic truth in this vote today would be a direct rebuke to the lady who shines so brightly in New York’s harbor.”

Update: Actually, let me leave you with this instead. Oof.


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Hmmm, billions of hollow points, and now people. Could they be trying to import an army? An army of loyal constituents (soldiers)?

SailorMark on June 27, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Oh swell, Harry Reid is talking about how he will always be friends with John McCain and Lindey Graham (who happens to be up for re-election>)

wren on June 27, 2013 at 4:08 PM

wren on June 27, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Thanks wren for the updated list. Grabbed it:-)

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Oh, shut up, liar Reid.

pambi on June 27, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Harry Reid now reading a poem.

Really?

wren on June 27, 2013 at 4:10 PM

What is this blather that Reid is spewing? Good grief!

MustLoveBlogs on June 27, 2013 at 4:11 PM

Clerk now calling the roll.

wren on June 27, 2013 at 4:12 PM

Why don’t the Republicans tell the stories about the terror on the border. What about the rancher who lost his life, what about the areas that aren’t even safe for citizens? What about the young black football player who had a promising career opportunity but was gunned down by a known illegal who was allowed to stay because of L.A.’s sanctuary policies?

Rose on June 27, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Hard to hear the individual votes on Cspan.

wren on June 27, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Unfrikenbelievable

They are calling the roll and when they got to Ms Lindsey could anyone hear his vote, it was awful quiet?

D-fusit on June 27, 2013 at 4:15 PM

What’s so funny?????

D-fusit on June 27, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Still don’t see the point. There’s a Ted Cruz in every state – we just need to find him or her.

crrr6 on June 27, 2013 at 4:05 PM

I’m pretty much already past the idea of a third party.

I’m on to the opinion that the only way Washington can possibly be cleaned up is to burn the m’er f’er down and start over.

Meople on June 27, 2013 at 4:17 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/26/Group-releases-Life-of-Julia-amnesty-applicant-Obama-campaign-parody

davidk on June 27, 2013 at 4:16 PM

Wonder if the WH has seen it.

D-fusit on June 27, 2013 at 4:17 PM

barraso
blunt
boseman?
burr
chambliss
coburn
cockeran
cornyn
crapo?
cruz
enzi
fisher?
grassley
hatch?
inhoffe
johanns
lee
mcconnell?
paul
portman
scott
sessions
shelby
thune
toomey
vitter
wicker

Prelimary No votes dang Rs mumbled when they voted.

CoffeeLover on June 27, 2013 at 4:18 PM

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/26/Group-releases-Life-of-Julia-amnesty-applicant-Obama-campaign-parody

davidk on June 27, 2013 at 4:16 PM
Wonder if the WH has seen it.

D-fusit on June 27, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Hell, they probably leaked it as a trial balloon.

Key West Reader on June 27, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Univision just interrupted soccer game to announce amnesty passes.

El_Terrible on June 27, 2013 at 4:19 PM

This looks and smells just like Obamacare. I was sick then, now I’m sicker.

mobydutch on June 27, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Univision just interrupted soccer game to announce amnesty passes.

El_Terrible on June 27, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Annnnnd it begins.

The End.

Meople on June 27, 2013 at 4:21 PM

Time for the house to go home for the holiday and make the Senate do so, too.

pambi on June 27, 2013 at 4:22 PM

How many of us will go the way of SWalker if this passes the house? I predict 80%.

nobar on June 27, 2013 at 4:05 PM

I posted his URL. It was deleted.

Oh, well.

davidk on June 27, 2013 at 4:22 PM

68-32.

nobar on June 27, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Vote

68 Yeahs

32 Nays

Gallery is making noise…can’t tell for or against.

CoffeeLover on June 27, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Could anyone hear what the protesters in the gallery were shouting?

MustLoveBlogs on June 27, 2013 at 4:23 PM

The bill as amended is passed.

68 Yea

32 No

Biden calling to restore order in the Gallery.

wren on June 27, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Why does Slow Joe have such a tiny gavel? Nancy had such a big one.

D-fusit on June 27, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Si Se Puede!

LegendHasIt on June 27, 2013 at 4:23 PM

68-32.

nobar on June 27, 2013 at 4:22 PM

EPIC FAIL

Not even 70, you know they wanted 80

El_Terrible on June 27, 2013 at 4:24 PM

68-32.

nobar on June 27, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Well they didn’t get 70 to make Schumer crow more.

gophergirl on June 27, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Could anyone hear what the protesters in the gallery were shouting?

MustLoveBlogs on June 27, 2013 at 4:23 PM

It sounded to me like a mix of:

Yes we can

and

Si se puede

wren on June 27, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Could anyone hear what the protesters in the gallery were shouting?

MustLoveBlogs on June 27, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Today we march, tomorrow we vote
/s (it is used in protests tho)

El_Terrible on June 27, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Gallery is making noise…can’t tell for or against.

CoffeeLover on June 27, 2013 at 4:22 PM

Oh, they were all for it. I think Laraza had a ton of people there.

Barred on June 27, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Vote

68 Yeahs

32 Nays

Gallery is making noise…can’t tell for or against.

CoffeeLover on June 27, 2013 at 4:22 PM

I’m sure the noise is FOR it. The Dims would see to it that only their supporters were in the gallery. Any Conservative or Tea Party member that showed up was immediately shuffled away to the IRS building for their audit.

Meople on June 27, 2013 at 4:25 PM

Could anyone hear what the protesters in the gallery were shouting?

MustLoveBlogs on June 27, 2013 at 4:23 PM

It was ‘yes we can’ en englais

pambi on June 27, 2013 at 4:26 PM

So, 14 Republicans just voted to end the Republican Party. Terrific.

NOMOBO on June 27, 2013 at 4:26 PM

They’ll be partying in So. Cal tonight. Better stay off the roads unless you want to get tagged by a drunk driver with no license or insurance

Ditkaca on June 27, 2013 at 4:27 PM

I am not giving up the fight. At this point, it is local-local. On the smallest of scales I will fight this, and I hope the House can kill it.

MustLoveBlogs on June 27, 2013 at 4:27 PM

SOOO excited to see all of the Mexican flags waving at our Fourth of July parades.

/

pambi on June 27, 2013 at 4:28 PM

Where is the list?

I know one of my Senators is on it, probably both. Want to let them know exactly how I feel.

AND THIS IS A RED STATE!!!!!

Barred on June 27, 2013 at 4:28 PM

Apparently, if you haven’t physically visited the border recently, your concerns about the Gang’s security provisions are stupid.

Take a blow, Mav. If you haven’t been through the immigration process yourself recently, then your two cents on immigration aren’t worth dos pesos.

Christien on June 27, 2013 at 4:29 PM

MustLoveBlogs on June 27, 2013 at 4:27 PM

I’m with you on this.

Barred on June 27, 2013 at 4:30 PM

CSPAN just reported that all Democrat Senators and 2 Independents voted yes.

VOTE THESE TRAITORS OUT OF OFFICE asap!

wren on June 27, 2013 at 4:30 PM

So, 14 Republicans just voted to end the Republican Party. Terrific.

NOMOBO on June 27, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Lib – they deserve to lose for 100 years.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 4:30 PM

Now’s the time folks. Melt the phone lines to your House representative. Make ‘em feel the pain.

Oldnuke on June 27, 2013 at 4:30 PM

So, 14 Republicans just voted to end the Republican Party. Terrific.

NOMOBO on June 27, 2013 at 4:26 PM

Not quite, 100 more are required to vote that way in the house, then the seppaku is lethal.

nobar on June 27, 2013 at 4:30 PM

I’m embarrassed by almost everything that’s happening nowadays.

The last 4 1/2 years are a shame.
The previous 8 were not great, but were magnitudes better.

freedomfirst on June 27, 2013 at 4:30 PM

Now’s the time folks. Melt the phone lines to your House representative. Make ‘em feel the pain.

Oldnuke on June 27, 2013 at 4:30 PM

Boehner and Ryan already sold the land.

If amnesty will go throug the House, and any form of it will be reconciled with this travesty, then Pelosi is Speaker in Jan. of 2015. YOU can buy lottery tickets on this.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 4:32 PM

I’m sure the noise is FOR it. The Dims would see to it that only their supporters were in the gallery. Any Conservative or Tea Party member that showed up was immediately shuffled away to the IRS building for their audit.

Meople on June 27, 2013 at 4:25 PM

They were all yelling for Free Nacho Libre DVD’S

ToddPA on June 27, 2013 at 4:32 PM

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 3:53 PM

We need to DEMAND that all of our Senators and Congresspeople have TOWNHALL MEETINGS during either the July 4th Break or the August 5 – September 6 “State Work Period.”

We clearly need to remind these politicians who they are supposed to represent.

Get prepared to ask some tough questions! And bring video cameras if you have them.

wren on June 27, 2013 at 4:05 PM

I agree. I’m sure my camera is a camcorder too. I plan on being as organized as possible. All of my U.S. House members are about 1.5 hrs. away. Plan on checking with the local Tea Parties and see what they are doing.
I also liked the idea of comment: Barred on June 27, 2013 at 3:53 PM

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Primary every one of them.

rdbrewer on June 27, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Univision just interrupted soccer game to announce amnesty passes.

El_Terrible on June 27, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Border crossings to rise significantly.

Mexican Government to open prisons and mental hospitals get undesirables across the border to the US.

portlandon on June 27, 2013 at 4:32 PM

So, 14 Republicans just voted to end the Republican Party. Terrific.

NOMOBO on June 27, 2013 at 4:26 PM

It oughta’ end, what good is it? It certainly doesn’t represent the will of it’s members anymore. Hellwithem. I’d rather be a small minority party member with backbone and principals than be associated with a bunch of squishy RINOs. Bring on the third party! Let’s make Republicans what they seem to want to be. Useless and ineffective.

Oldnuke on June 27, 2013 at 4:33 PM

Border crossings to rise significantly.

Mexican Government to open prisons and mental hospitals get undesirables across the border to the US.

portlandon on June 27, 2013 at 4:32 PM

They can just set up a convoy.

MontanaMmmm on June 27, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Let’s make Republicans what they seem to want to be. Useless and ineffective.

Oldnuke on June 27, 2013 at 4:33 PM

Oh Wait! They already are.

Oldnuke on June 27, 2013 at 4:37 PM

Primary every one of them with illegal alien candidates.

rdbrewer on June 27, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Call it a “Pathway to the Senate.”

Christien on June 27, 2013 at 4:37 PM

It will be with great relish that we kick Rubio out of the Republican party and politics in general.
Rubio will have to move to Mexico after all is said and done.

redguy on June 27, 2013 at 4:38 PM

It oughta’ end, what good is it? It certainly doesn’t represent the will of it’s members anymore. Hellwithem. I’d rather be a small minority party member with backbone and principals than be associated with a bunch of squishy RINOs. Bring on the third party! Let’s make Republicans what they seem to want to be. Useless and ineffective.

Oldnuke on June 27, 2013 at 4:33 PM

Yep, the Republican party, and their Dimocrat-Lite Congressmen and Senators, can die in a fire slowly, as far as this Conservative is concerned.

None of them will get my support, my money, and sure as h3ll aren’t getting my vote.

Meople on June 27, 2013 at 4:39 PM

Boy, this oughta really fire up the Tea Party, huh?

/oh… wait.

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Key West Reader on June 27, 2013 at 4:39 PM

wren on June 27, 2013 at 3:44 PM

You need to revise your list–John Cornyn voted AGAINST…

lovingmyUSA on June 27, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Apparently, if you haven’t physically visited the border recently, your concerns about the Gang’s security provisions are stupid.

Meanwhile, in one of McCain’s recent trips to the border, an illegal was caught on camera jumping the fence right behind him. Must have been all shadowy around there.

BTW, did ya’ll hear about the squishy Republican Hispanic senate candidate in Massachusetts who was all in for amnesty and more who lost in a heavy Hispanic district to an old white man by 40 points, and lost the Hispanic vote and the white vote overall, lol?

Winning!

xblade on June 27, 2013 at 4:41 PM

It will be with great relish that we kick Rubio out of the Republican party and politics in general.
Rubio will have to move to Mexico after all is said and done.

redguy on June 27, 2013 at 4:38 PM

After all is said and done, Mexico will all be here, so Rubio won’t have to go anywhere I guess.

Meople on June 27, 2013 at 4:41 PM

It will be with great relish that we kick Rubio out of the Republican party and politics in general.
Rubio will have to move to Mexico Obama’s Cabinet after all is said and done.

redguy on June 27, 2013 at 4:38 PM

There… that’s more realistic dontcha think?

Key West Reader on June 27, 2013 at 4:41 PM

…..
Rubio will have to move to Mexico after all is said and done.
redguy on June 27, 2013 at 4:38 PM

Or maybe to Cuba, like his daddy nearly did after the great Castro became ruler.

Would that Daddy Rubio HAD gone back.

LegendHasIt on June 27, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Absolutely no reason for Lamar Alexander not to be primaried in 2014. Total no brainer. People should be chomping at the bit.

cdog0613 on June 27, 2013 at 4:41 PM

This hilarious comedy bit sums up the crap sammich Rubio and his amigos are insisting America eat:

Cheech & Chong – “Dog Sh!t”

Christien on June 27, 2013 at 4:42 PM

Do they realize that their housekeepers and gardeners will now be eligible for minimum wage?

Or is there an amemendment that opts out members of congress from paying minimum wage?

Ditkaca on June 27, 2013 at 4:43 PM

So, this bill passed with bipartisan support..?

d1carter on June 27, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Do they realize that their housekeepers and gardeners will now be eligible for minimum wage?

Or is there an amemendment that opts out members of congress from paying minimum wage?

Ditkaca on June 27, 2013 at 4:43 PM

They’re exempted from that little reality. It’s in there.

Meople on June 27, 2013 at 4:44 PM

We need to DEMAND that all of our Senators and Congresspeople have TOWNHALL MEETINGS during either the July 4th Break or the August 5 – September 6 “State Work Period.”

I agree with that sentiment.

However, I’d be willing to be that every Republican Senator that voted to betray the American people has already booked those dates for tax payer funded junkets to foreign countries on those dates.

They won’t show their faces.

Perhaps we can all pool our cash and buy them one way tickets to Ecuador.

Traitors.

MichaelGabriel on June 27, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Hmmm, billions of hollow points, and now people. Could they be trying to import an army? An army of loyal constituents (soldiers)?

SailorMark on June 27, 2013 at 4:08 PM

I’ve heard that mentioned.

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Absolutely no reason for Lamar Alexander not to be primaried in 2014. Total no brainer. People should be chomping at the bit.

cdog0613 on June 27, 2013 at 4:41 PM

Rumor has it Glen Jacobs(aka Kane from the WWF) is considering a primary challenge. I’d shell out PPV rates to see that debate.

Doughboy on June 27, 2013 at 4:46 PM

So, this bill passed with bipartisan support..?

d1carter on June 27, 2013 at 4:44 PM

Not really. Some of those senators that voted yea say they’re Republicans but they’re lying. They’re really just shills for the Democrats.

Oldnuke on June 27, 2013 at 4:48 PM

wren on June 27, 2013 at 3:44 PM

You need to revise your list–John Cornyn voted AGAINST…

lovingmyUSA on June 27, 2013 at 4:40 PM

The list I posted at 3:44 was a list of ALL of the Senator seats that are up for re-election in 2014.

These are the Senators that we have the most leverage with.

I posted this list of Senators BEFORE the vote took place.

wren on June 27, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Why are you guys against more Mexicans coming here? Mexicans are cool! Cmonnnnnnnnnnnnnn

davemason2k on June 27, 2013 at 4:50 PM

Not really. Some of those senators that voted yea say they’re Republicans but they’re lying. They’re really just shills for the Democrats.

Oldnuke on June 27, 2013 at 4:48 PM

LOL…I should have said the Ruling Party. Since there is only one party and it rules.

d1carter on June 27, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Gallery is making noise…can’t tell for or against.

CoffeeLover on June 27, 2013 at 4:22 PM

One side is saying, “Marco!”

And, the other side is replying, “Pólo! Tonto!”

Fallon on June 27, 2013 at 4:51 PM

lol Fallon

CoffeeLover on June 27, 2013 at 4:53 PM

I’m sure the noise is FOR it. The Dims would see to it that only their supporters were in the gallery. Any Conservative or Tea Party member that showed up was immediately shuffled away to the IRS building for their audit.

Meople on June 27, 2013 at 4:25 PM

LOL

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Illegals: “Your country are belong to us.”

House Repubs, it’s in your court. What’s your response?
I hope Boehner doesn’t put it up for a vote.
I also don’t want some weak counter… like another “pathway” bill.

freedomfirst on June 27, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Univision just interrupted soccer game to announce amnesty passes.

El_Terrible on June 27, 2013 at 4:19 PM

Did they yell “Gooooooooooooooooooool!”?

bofh on June 27, 2013 at 4:54 PM

It will be interesting to see what the black community does.
They have been thrown under the bus for a larger voting block.
I had a door to door saleswoman come by for a visit yesterday and she made no effort to hide her racism against mexican’s.
I offered her a rain poncho because it was raining and she had no coat, and when I said poncho, she went off.
Very interesting. P.S. It really was a poncho, said it right on the label.

MontanaMmmm on June 27, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Rubio (R) (I) (D) is done.

can_con on June 27, 2013 at 4:55 PM

If anything resembling the Senate immigration bill hits the President’s desk for signature, it will literally be the moment that the US crosses the red line, perhaps never to come back to the other side.

The statists, the progressives, the ruling class, and the MSM are collectively having a great week. Should the House GOP join in the orgy that is de facto amnesty, this country as we have known it is toast.

Elections have consequences, and ALL democratic republics have a shelf life. *le sigh*

itzWicks on June 27, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Montana, don’t lie. You refuse to open the door for any black people!

davemason2k on June 27, 2013 at 4:56 PM

gop……DEAD

PappyD61 on June 27, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Soon Ted Cruz or Rand Paul are going to give McCain a heart attack on the senate floor over something. He is just completely flipped his lid. He has always a rage problem, but now he is having a harder time controlling it…

William Eaton on June 27, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Again, where’s my country? I know I left it around here somewhere!

Dejected. We are in the Bizarro World.

freedomfirst on June 27, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Montana, don’t lie. You refuse to open the door for any black people!

davemason2k on June 27, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Funny thing is she was complaining to me that my neighbor booted her because of her skin color. (you know the elderly hippie couple that had an Obama 2012 poster in their window for months.)

I told her that starting her sales pitch by saying basically “I hope your not a racist like you neighbor” is not a good way to get me to buy anything.

MontanaMmmm on June 27, 2013 at 5:00 PM

I’m a member of the Washoe County Republican Central Committee (WCRCC), who walked precincts once a week last Spring, Summer and Fall in support of Mitt Romney and Dean Heller, and in the last six weeks of the campaign, was working 50 – 60 hours per week preparing walking routes for volunteers from California and driving one of the vans that shuttled them throughout Reno and Sparks.

I’ve written Heller’s office, telling him that I feel that with this YES vote, he has wasted all the time I worked for him, and made me a liar when I told the CA volunteers that he was a Conservative.

I wrote that one of my many objections to the bill was the way it would permit the firing of low-income Black, White, and Latino citizens and legal workers who could then be replaced with legalized illegals who wouldn’t be included under Obamacare penalties, and how this would result in increased welfare payments.

I closed my letter with the statement that I, and quite a few other members of the WCRCC, would likely quit the Central Committee because we felt like we were betrayed, and that our work and sweat during the campaign didn’t count as much as the money from Nevada businesses.

Reno_Dave on June 27, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Apparently, if you haven’t physically visited the border recently, your concerns about the Gang’s security provisions are stupid.

One of my progeny works for BP station at the southern border in Arizona. They find this bill to be a non-starter as it doesn’t do anything to halt the flow of illegals. McCain you lie.

chemman on June 27, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Rubio’s gonna make a fine democrat.

Rational Thought on June 27, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Rubio’s gonna make a fine democrat.

Rational Thought on June 27, 2013 at 5:00 PM

He just needs to beat Crist.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 5:01 PM

I am not giving up the fight. At this point, it is local-local. On the smallest of scales I will fight this, and I hope the House can kill it.

MustLoveBlogs on June 27, 2013 at 4:27 PM

Boehner just had a secret meeting with B.O. on 6/25, I believe that was the date.

Boehner/Cantor/McCarthy/Paul Ryan and others have been working on their own bill they plan on bringing to the floor for a vote.

We can’t allow that because every Dem Rep will vote for it and you know there are enough R turncoats to do so also. Then it goes to Conference. If there are any good parts in the House bill passed (to entice the R’s to vote for it), they will be taken out in reconciliation with the Senate bill just passed and we’ll have the Senate bill.

A lot of chatter on what is going to be put in this bill, Bachmann, Ryan, Gohmert and others.

Kill the bill, any bill, needs to be our message to the R’s & the D’s.

If I’m missing anything, someone that knows more about the House procedures, please let me know.

Oh, the Leaders of the Senate and House had a meeting with B.O. also.

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 5:03 PM

Also how does Lindsay Graham keep getting elected in South Carolina?

What a strange state…always has been historically as well.

William Eaton on June 27, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Rubio’s gonna make a fine democrat.

Rational Thought on June 27, 2013 at 5:00 PM

He’d make a better Venezuelan. I’ll pack him sandwiches.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 27, 2013 at 5:04 PM

Deb Fischer doesn’t need to visit the Mexican border. She can just visit one of the meat-packing plants in Nebraska before an INS raid.

NebCon on June 27, 2013 at 5:05 PM

Boehner and Ryan already sold the land.

If amnesty will go through the House, any form of it will be reconciled with this travesty, then Pelosi is Speaker in Jan. of 2015. YOU can buy lottery tickets on this.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Fool me once…

Fallon on June 27, 2013 at 5:07 PM

This is what ONE PARTY (Progressive) rule looks like !

Does it make any difference whether they use their Democrat or republican face to pass this stuff???

PappyD61 on June 27, 2013 at 5:09 PM

Here’s something lofty to carry you into the evening from the Republican Party’s new best friend:

Schumer will fluke you in the sunshine.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 5:11 PM

You need to revise your list–John Cornyn voted AGAINST…

lovingmyUSA on June 27, 2013 at 4:40 PM

That was just because he’s up for re-election. However, he and McConnell both have been working hard behind the scenes for this to pass.
http://www.redstate.com/2013/06/25/bringing-mitch-mcconnell-out-of-the-shadows/

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 5:11 PM

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