Open thread: Final Senate vote on Gang of Eight bill set for 4 p.m. ET; Update: Bill passes, 68/32

posted at 3:21 pm on June 27, 2013 by Allahpundit

The final cloture vote was held this morning and passed with 68 yeses, two shy of Schumer’s goal at the start of this process. After three days of pleading with fencesitters and, no doubt, tempting them with earmarks and other legislative kickbacks to bring them on board, they still couldn’t get to 70. The 14 Republicans who voted yes this morning:

I’m laying that down as a marker in case any of them votes no this afternoon in a cheap attempt to convince their constituents that they’re actually against the bill. As for why the Gang didn’t get to 70, why would they at this point? Fencesitters are facing a rising tide of grassroots pressure plus the unwelcome fact that both Boehner and Paul Ryan have insisted the Senate bill won’t even get a vote in the House. (House deputy whip Peter Roskam called it “a pipe dream.”) The whole point of having 70 yeses in the Senate was, in theory, to put pressure on the House to act, but the backlash to Rubio and the bill among conservative media and activists has eliminated that. If you’re Rob Portman, say, what do you gain at this point by voting for a bill that won’t be enacted and that may earn you bitter opposition in a primary? Not to keep picking on Rubio, but this really does boil down to his inability, despite his best attempts, to sell the bill to the right. Even if he couldn’t persuade them to support it, it would have been a huge win for pro-amnesty Republicans if he had managed to temper the intensity of the opposition. That might have gotten the Senate closer to 80 yeses, notwithstanding the bill’s fate in the House, which would have helped the GOP leadership with its PR efforts towards Latino voters. As it is, only a minority of the caucus is supporting it. I don’t blame Rubio for failing at what was probably an impossible task, but he did fail.

By the way, don’t look now but the bill is starting to sound creaky among liberals too. The NYT has a piece out this morning about lefties grumbling that the weak Corker/Hoeven border-security provisions (see this account of Hugh Hewitt’s brutal interview with Hoeven to understand how weak) are nonetheless too strong for their liking. Meanwhile, at TNR, T.A. Frank makes the Kaus-ian case that the bill will be a disaster for the working class:

All in all, I became convinced that high levels of low-skill immigration are good for wealthy Americans and bad for poor Americans. Far more important, high levels of illegal immigration—when you start to get into the millions, as we have—undermines unions and labor standards, lowers wages, heightens social tensions, strains state budgets, widens income inequality, subverts the rule of law, and exacerbates class divides. The effects go far beyond wages, because few undocumented workers earn enough to cover anything close to the cost of government services (such as education for their children) they require, and those services are most important to low-income Americans. In short, it’s an immense blow to America’s working class and poor.

Most labor unions support the current legislation, of course, but few of them seem to acknowledge the possibility of a mass influx of a future illegal workforce. In part, that’s because the SEIU and many other unions have thousands of undocumented members, and raising a fuss about enforcement or opposing the current bill would alienate their own members. It’s probably also that they believe, unrealistically, that the bill would be effective at controlling the border in the future.

And a lot of Democrats have also convinced themselves that even if there’s a wage loss to low-skilled workers, the massive new voting bloc of mostly left-leaning immigrants will ultimately help the little guy. But if millions of new Democratic voters oppose strict immigration control, then there will no Democratic support for meaningful immigration control. And generous social benefits cannot coexist with an open border. (Nor can a more egalitarian society.)

One of the things that helped kill McCain’s last amnesty effort a few years ago was this same objection being championed by Democrats like Byron Dorgan. If House Democrats start to peel off because of it on top of the fact that some will peel off in objection to the border measures proposed by the GOP House majority, then reform is almost certainly dead.

While we wait for the vote, enjoy Patty Murray admitting that she doesn’t know precisely how many DUIs an illegal would be allowed to rack up before he’s disqualified from amnesty under the Gang of Eight bill. A few days ago, no fewer than five Democrats in favor of the bill admitted they weren’t sure if it creates an incentive under ObamaCare for employers to hire illegals over citizens. Has anyone in the Senate thought about this bill in any detail at all? Should we maybe have held some hearings and delayed the cloture vote before rushing this travesty over to the House?

Update: I mentioned a few days ago about how grumpy McCain had gotten with Deb Fischer over her opposition to the bill, but I didn’t see the video until last night. Here you go. Apparently, if you haven’t physically visited the border recently, your concerns about the Gang’s security provisions are stupid.

Update: Tim Mak asks a good question. Isn’t Republican leadership supposed to be, at a minimum, agnostic about the Gang’s bill as part of their outreach to Latinos? Here’s NRSC spokesman Brad Dayspring:

“It’s just another sign that even vulnerable [pro-amnesty] Democrats like Landrieu, Begich, Hagan and Pryor are more loyal to Chuck Schumer and Barack Obama than they are to middle-class men and women struggling in their home states.”

The problem: What about Republicans supporting the immigration bill? Couldn’t that same criticism — that a yes vote demonstrates an allegiance to national party leaders over constituents — be extended to GOP senators who support ongoing immigration reform efforts, especially in states where public opinion is mixed on the issue?

Schumer’s been know to refer to pro-amnesty GOP senators as “our Republicans.” I understand that politics is a cynical game, but bashing red-state Democrats for selling out on the border while backslapping the Rubios of the world for their outreach is really something. How do you reconcile them? Quote:

Republican strategists say their party needs to improve its performance among Hispanic voters, the fastest growing major electoral bloc, to remain competitive in future elections.

But they view Hispanic voters as more important in the 2016 presidential election than the 2014 midterm elections, which will have lower turnout.

So the party stays officially anti-amnesty for three more years, then makes a hard pro-amnesty pivot for the presidential campaign? I can’t imagine that backfiring with anyone, except for … everyone.

Update: The deed is done: 68 yes votes, same as in this morning’s cloture vote. No roll yet but I see on Twitter that 14 Republicans voted yes, the same number that voted yes this morning. Presumably it’s the same 14. It’s a small relief that none of the Republicans in favor stooped to ye olde yes-on-cloture-no-on-the-final-bill game. And in the end, they still couldn’t get to 70.

Here’s something lofty to carry you into the evening from the Republican Party’s new best friend:

“In choosing this country, whether it’s my friend Marco Rubio’s parents from Cuba or my parents and great-grandparents who fled persecution from Europe, immigrants bring an appreciation for the choices and opportunities that are unique to America,” Schumer said. “Immigrants have been an essential component to our American success story. To reject this basic truth in this vote today would be a direct rebuke to the lady who shines so brightly in New York’s harbor.”

Update: Actually, let me leave you with this instead. Oof.


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I will never vote for Marco Rubio again. That is for sure.

joekenha on June 27, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Si se puede

cmsinaz on June 27, 2013 at 3:25 PM

We used to have a pretty nice country.

rbj on June 27, 2013 at 3:25 PM

When our all-knowing Elites have finished emptying out Mexico, can we have it?

Maybe we can start over from scratch down there.

SCsteve on June 27, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Lsm to begin their gop bashing for not pandering to the Hispanics in 5…4…3….

cmsinaz on June 27, 2013 at 3:27 PM

We all know it’s going to pass, at which point the trolls will invade to gloat, as if they got one over on us after a tough fight.

Liam on June 27, 2013 at 3:27 PM

I hope he chokes on that water.

Kissmygrits on June 27, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Not to keep picking on Rubio, but this really does boil down to his inability, despite his best attempts, to sell the bill to the right.

Bigger failure was his inability to craft a bill that would be good for the country.

He faced no opposition or backlash for months. Levin and Rush gave him the kid gloves, and are still relatively easy on him to this day.

The right gave him room to maneuver because he promised a good bill. He failed.

El_Terrible on June 27, 2013 at 3:28 PM

All I need to know is the names of those who vote for it, so I can start helping with their recall/defeat at the polls.

Dusty on June 27, 2013 at 3:28 PM

esh…they are even bringing in Joe Biden to chair the vote! I’mma gonna be sick.

CoffeeLover on June 27, 2013 at 3:28 PM

The PIGS of the senate, from both sides.

You must read and go after those who’re your ‘civil servants’.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 3:28 PM

It is all Kabuki theater designed to keep citizens believing they are still living in a representative republic. The Tree of Liberty is being starved of water and needs some serious watering.

trs on June 27, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Well hell, I want to see her response to the angry old man. Where’s the rest of the video?

I would hope her response is something like ‘Nebraskans don’t give a shit what you think old man!’

reddevil on June 27, 2013 at 3:29 PM

John McCain is a bitter old bastard.

Mark1971 on June 27, 2013 at 3:30 PM

I hope he chokes on that water.

Kissmygrits on June 27, 2013 at 3:27 PM

It would be funnier if coughed and it came out his nose, on live TV. MSNBC would probably run it in a loop for six hours.

Liam on June 27, 2013 at 3:31 PM

Time to sign your political death warrants, you traitorous motherf**kers.

MadisonConservative on June 27, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Si se puede
cmsinaz on June 27, 2013 at 3:25 PM

Bears repeating… OFTEN!

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Between this and the SSM vote – I’m ready to lose my lunch.

I need some retail therapy.

gophergirl on June 27, 2013 at 3:32 PM

Not to keep picking on Rubio, but this really does boil down to his inability, despite his best attempts, to sell the bill to the right.

It’s like the millions Miller Brewing spends advertising its swill Lite beer. No matter how many pretty chicks with huge boobs they parade around in bikinis, the beer cans are still filled with swill. Likewise, Rubio can tell his sob story about his family’s trek to freedom and crow on about de facto amnesty until he’s Dem party blue in the face, the bill still will suck.

rcpjr on June 27, 2013 at 3:34 PM

would have helped the GOP leadership with its PR efforts towards Latino voters

If the GOP bothered to go on the offensive that supporting illegals is an evil trick on those Latinos that follow the law and played by the rules–and so the GOP will have no part of supporting or rewarding law breaking for votes by any group, as does the God-booing party.
That, repeated aggressively and often might be all that is needed and will get them far more Latino votes and respect than all the pandering “us-too” games played by the corruptocrats.

Don L on June 27, 2013 at 3:34 PM

We knew it was gonna make it out of the Senate…… Pray the House doesn’t bring it up…

sandee on June 27, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Republican strategists say their party needs to improve its performance among HispanicCONSERVATIVE voters, the fastest growing major electoral bloc, to remain competitive in future elections.

But they view Hispanic voters as more important in the 2016 presidential election than the 2014 midterm elections, which will have lower turnout.

FIFY mister strategist.

Key West Reader on June 27, 2013 at 3:35 PM

The Tree of Liberty is being starved of water and needs some serious watering.trs on June 27, 2013 at 3:28 PM

Seconded!

What I want to know seriously, what are extremist radicals on the right saying or gonna do about this?

I know we all are doing our part as best we can to influence our Civil SERVANTS, but it seems not to much avail…

Anyone?

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Between this and the SSM vote – I’m ready to lose my lunch.

I need some retail therapy.

gophergirl on June 27, 2013 at 3:32 PM

I thinks Obama will make them vote on making SSM legal nationwide.

Gun control, amnesty, ssm, Obama wants to force GOP into all these positions to kill its base.

El_Terrible on June 27, 2013 at 3:36 PM

Keep digging, losers.

Pork-Chop on June 27, 2013 at 3:36 PM

Don L on June 27, 2013 at 3:34 PM

FAT FRICKING CHANCE!

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 3:36 PM

IF you support it say Si!

Oil Can on June 27, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Civil servants – they are neither. It’s a double oxymoron.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Isn’t Republican leadership supposed to be, at a minimum, agnostic about the Gang’s bill as part of their outreach to Latinos? Here’s NRSC spokesman Brad Dayspring:

“It’s just another sign that even vulnerable [pro-amnesty] Democrats like Landrieu, Begich, Hagan and Pryor are more loyal to Chuck Schumer and Barack Obama than they are to middle-class men and women struggling in their home states.”

Hell no. That’s exactly what they should do. Use this travesty of a bill against the red-state Dems who voted for it. This coupled with all of them voting for Obamacare should be enough by themselves to swing those seats to the GOP. If the idiot Republicans in the Senate who voted for amnesty are offended by that campaign strategery, that’s their problem.

Doughboy on June 27, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Obama wants to force GOP into all these positions to kill its base.

El_Terrible on June 27, 2013 at 3:36 PM

It is not taking much ‘force’ is it now? Dagnabit…

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 3:38 PM

It’s a double oxymoron.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 3:37 PM

That it is…

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 3:39 PM

I can’t even watch…

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 3:39 PM

IF you support it say Si!

Oil Can on June 27, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Anyone who supports it, burn in Hell, in the hottest layers, and soon.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 3:41 PM

To all you Lower than Whale sh*t, Mother Effers

EAT SH*T AND DIE!

ToddPA on June 27, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Sen. Grassley is using some of the remaining time to sum up his and Rs behind him opposition to the bill – Cspan 2

550 amendments filed only about a dozen taken up

He’s doing 11 town meetings in Iowa on Monday and Tuesday.

Legalization is NOT contingent on addressing our borders and visa overstays.

Sorry Senator Grassley the fix has been in for months now.

CoffeeLover on June 27, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 3:35 PM

I wouldn’t be surprised if MSNBC is right now looking for the whackiest right-winger they can find, hoping he’ll say something like he and his group will secure the border if Washington won’t do it. In ten minutes, we’ll all be painted as trigger happy, and there will be calls for more gun control and demands our newly-documented fellows be protected from Tea Party violence.

I hope I didn’t just give the LSM any ideas…

Liam on June 27, 2013 at 3:42 PM

GG…..shoe store shoe store shoe store

CoffeeLover on June 27, 2013 at 3:42 PM

GG…..shoe store shoe store shoe store

CoffeeLover on June 27, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Shoe/handbag store :)

gophergirl on June 27, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Republican strategists say their party needs to…

Not sure who the repub strategists are but they need to be fired. And it speaks to why I won’t give money to the GOP. I got totally rolled on going the candidate route with Rubio but my record is pretty good otherwise.

DanMan on June 27, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Here is a handy list of the U.S. senators who are up for re-election in 2014.

You can use this list as a checklist to identify which Senators need to be voted out of office in 2014, as the Senators vote for this Amnesty-Travesty Bill.

U.S. Senators who are up for re-election in 2014 (Class II) – 33

http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm?Class=2

Republicans (13)

Lamar Alexander (R-TN)

Saxby Chambliss (R-GA) – Not running for re-election

Thad Cochran (R-MS)

Susan Collins (R-ME)

John Cornyn (R-TX)

Michael Enzi (R-WY)

Lindsey Graham (R-SC) – Richard Cash is running against Gang of 8 member Sen. Graham in the Republican Primary http://www.richardcashforsenate.com/

James Inhofe (R-OK)

Mike Johanns (R-NE) – Not running for re-election

Mitch McConnell (R-KY)

James Risch (R-ID)

Pat Roberts (R-KS)

Jeff Sessions (R-AL)

Democrats (20)

Max Baucus (D-MT) – Not running for re-election

Mark Begich (D-AK)

Christopher Coons (D-DE)

Richard Durbin (D-IL)

Al Franken (D-MN)

Kay Hagan (D-NC)

Tom Harkin (D-IA) – Not running for re-election

Tim Johnson (D-SD) – Not running for re-election

Ed Markey (D-MA)

Mary Landrieu (D-LA)

Frank Lautenberg (D-NJ) – Deceased. Special Primary election in August. General election in October.

Carl Levin (D-MI) – Not running for re-election

Jeff Merkley (D-OR)

Mark Pryor (D-AR)

Jack Reed (D-RI)

John Rockefeller IV (D-WV) – Not running for re-election

Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH)

Mark Udall (D-CO)

Tom Udall (D-NM)

Mark Warner (D-VA)

Any Senator who votes to allow ILLEGAL aliens to remain in the U.S. and be placed on a path to Citizenship, no longer represents the interests of the American people and should be VOTED OUT OF OFFICE asap.

Clean the House and the Senate in 2014!

wren on June 27, 2013 at 3:44 PM

America is boned.

This shamnesty bill isn’t going to be stopped. All this “debate”, is nothing but more smoke and mirrors, and a bunch of crap.

It doesn’t matter what the Repubes do to it in the House, they’ll pass whatever, then the Senate will strip all that crap out and we’re going to get shamnesty anyway.

It’s already going to happen, I don’t know why people are even talking like there’s a chance it won’t.

Meople on June 27, 2013 at 3:44 PM

gophergirl on June 27, 2013 at 3:43 PM

:) works for me!!!

CoffeeLover on June 27, 2013 at 3:44 PM

McCain, in terms of his age, doesn’t have that many years left on this earth, and those he has will be lived in luxury. He doesn’t care for all the people who will be adversely affected by this bill. The citizens of this country are nothing to him.

Rose on June 27, 2013 at 3:46 PM

I hope I didn’t just give the LSM any ideas…

Liam on June 27, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Like they need any encouragement.

They are a dispicable entity unto themselves…

If it means saving this country, I’d go radically extreme… :)

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 3:46 PM

not only Joe Biden presiding over the vote but now Harry Reid is yelling at the Senators to get in their seats for the vote!!

CoffeeLover on June 27, 2013 at 3:47 PM

What Poppycock from McCain. He just used the same argument that women use against men voting on abortion legislation. They aren’t women so how would they know.

earlgrey133 on June 27, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Meople on June 27, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Cuz, when ALL HOPE is LOST.

You have NOTHING!

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 3:47 PM

I’ll work like a dog against Lamar Alexander. Please Tea Party…we need a candidate to run against him.

Big Orange on June 27, 2013 at 3:48 PM

If it means saving this country, I’d go radically extreme… :)

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 3:46 PM

I will become very cursive again, going on a long rant. :-P

Liam on June 27, 2013 at 3:48 PM

One might as well roll over and play dead…

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 3:48 PM

The last days of Rome…

… The vote will probably be 68 to 32.

No doubt those who vote for this will take July 4th off…

Seven Percent Solution on June 27, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Liam on June 27, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Right On!! I am cursiving right behind ya!! ;)

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 3:49 PM

After this travesty passes, can we get a post on the potentialities of a Third Party?

mjbrooks3 on June 27, 2013 at 3:50 PM

So,ahem,looks like 7 more Mexican States are gonna get rammed through to add to Hopey/Changeys Magical 57 States!!

El Terrifico,

Le Spit!
(sarc)

canopfor on June 27, 2013 at 3:50 PM

McCain, in terms of his age, doesn’t have that many years left on this earth, and those he has will be lived in luxury. He doesn’t care for all the people who will be adversely affected by this bill. The citizens of this country are nothing to him.

Rose on June 27, 2013 at 3:46 PM

All he cares about is a “Legacy.” his McCain-Feingold got shredded by SCOTUS, he didn’t get elected president…He wants to have some lasting impact on DC. Unfortunately, he has…

Wethal on June 27, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Gang Of Eight:

gang 1 (gng)
n.
1. A group of criminals or hoodlums who band together for mutual protection and profit.

2. A group of adolescents who band together, especially a group of delinquents.

3. Informal A group of people who associate regularly on a social basis: The whole gang from the office went to a clambake.

4. A group of laborers organized together on one job or under one foreperson: a railroad gang.

5. A matched or coordinated set, as of tools: a gang of chisels.

6.
a. A pack of wolves or wild dogs.

b. A herd, especially of buffalo or elk.

I highlighted the definitions of “gang” that best represent our elected “leaders”.

MichaelGabriel on June 27, 2013 at 3:50 PM

…Clean the House and the Senate in 2014!

wren on June 27, 2013 at 3:44 PM

That’s swell. But it’s not going to happen.

The imminent passage of shamnesty will split the Repubican party even further. Which is one of the core reasons the Dims and Obama are making this happen NOW. They know this is going to hurt every single Repube that votes for it, and will just increase the Dims chances of making big gains next year in the mid-terms.

Meople on June 27, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Will they say “aye” or “Si’ ” ???

Key West Reader on June 27, 2013 at 3:51 PM

McCain, is great attacking his own party. Job well done.

It’s bizarre world here.

Oil Can on June 27, 2013 at 3:51 PM

MichaelGabriel on June 27, 2013 at 3:50 PM

That was good.

Key West Reader on June 27, 2013 at 3:51 PM

I’m with gg and coffeelover

cmsinaz on June 27, 2013 at 3:52 PM

Senator Grassley R-IA said a few minutes ago that next week he is going to have 11 Town Meetings. Didn’t mention any other details.

I hope others will too.

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Not to keep picking on Rubio, but this really does boil down to his inability, despite his best attempts, to sell the bill to the right.

There’s no reason no to keep picking on Rubio. In this era of lying politicians, he’s been particularly egregious.

INC on June 27, 2013 at 3:53 PM

When our all-knowing Elites have finished emptying out Mexico, can we have it?

Maybe we can start over from scratch down there.

SCsteve on June 27, 2013 at 3:26 PM

I think the PRC already has dibs on it.

hawkeye54 on June 27, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Start today on your Representatives. Demand in writing their position on any amnesty bills.

Let them know every day how you feel.

Barred on June 27, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Liam on June 27, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Right On!! I am cursiving right behind ya!! ;)

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 3:49 PM

Ooooooooo…Talk dirty to me! LOL

Liam on June 27, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Hey KWR!

cmsinaz on June 27, 2013 at 3:53 PM

canopfor on June 27, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Hi Can! Good to see you alive and kickin’ :D

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 3:53 PM

in addition to being a rino, Rubio needs to be blamed for dividing the republicans with his amnesty lies. if we lose seats next year it’s because of the divide that Rubio caused!

as far as “republican strategists” saying we need Hispanic votes, well, today i’m a republican strategists and I say we don’t. my record is zero wins and zero losses which is a lot fewer losses than those supposed experts.

jetch on June 27, 2013 at 3:54 PM

We need to focus on what Ted Cruz was pointing out the other day: this bill will give employers a huge incentive to hire illegal aliens over American citizens due to obamacare. the right needs to hammer home this point daily that thousands, possibly millions in the middle class could lose their jobs due to this. Most people are completely unaware of the disaster this will cause. And over the recesses this summer, we need to bring the same heat we brought in 09. then show up in nov 14 and vote in patriots.

phillysfinest on June 27, 2013 at 3:55 PM

Start today on your Representatives. Demand in writing their position on any amnesty bills.

Let them know every day how you feel.

Barred on June 27, 2013 at 3:53 PM

The last time I wrote my Rep, she didn’t respond for almost two months. The issue had come and gone by then, if I recall.

Liam on June 27, 2013 at 3:55 PM

Hey KWR!

cmsinaz on June 27, 2013 at 3:53 PM

HiYa! Hope all is well!

Si Su Puede!

/

Key West Reader on June 27, 2013 at 3:56 PM

One might as well roll over and play dead…

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Dude, cmon. The fight is just starting.

VegasRick on June 27, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Looks like I’ll be fighting the urge to swear the whole drive home from work.

makattak on June 27, 2013 at 3:56 PM

You can watch the Senate vote live on CSPAN here:

http://www.c-span.org/

wren on June 27, 2013 at 3:56 PM

cmsinaz on June 27, 2013 at 3:52 PM

lol

amazing to see the amount of people in the Hall. Today it’s a dog and pony show….they go back to regular order when they return after the July 4th break.

Reid now….about Mexicans crossing the border.

CoffeeLover on June 27, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Dude, cmon. The fight is just starting.

VegasRick on June 27, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Yep

Looks like I’ll be fighting the urge to swear the whole drive home from work.

makattak on June 27, 2013 at 3:56 PM

Okay that just made me laugh out loud at my desk

gophergirl on June 27, 2013 at 3:57 PM

Reid’s voice is so annoying. Not that I want to hear anything he has to say, but still.

MustLoveBlogs on June 27, 2013 at 3:58 PM

Senator Harry Reid is telling a sob story about a family of ILLEGAL aliens now.

What about the American Citizens you are supposed to represent, Senator Reid?

wren on June 27, 2013 at 3:59 PM

Liam on June 27, 2013 at 3:55 PM

I know how it is but we can’t just give up.

Barred on June 27, 2013 at 3:59 PM

I still cannot believe that our Senate is aiding and abetting the enemy. It is thoroughly treasonous.

MustLoveBlogs on June 27, 2013 at 4:00 PM

Shut up Reid with your sob stories.

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Harry waxing eloquent/sarc…on the plight of illegals. What about legal Americans and people that came here the right way…. you old croaker!! Grr

CoffeeLover on June 27, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Update: I mentioned a few days ago about how grumpy McCain had gotten with Deb Fischer over her opposition to the bill, but I didn’t see the video until last night. Here you go. Apparently, if you haven’t physically visited the border recently, your concerns about the Gang’s security provisions are stupid

No but we’ve seen this.

RickB on June 27, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Let the Senate have their fun. This will end in disaster – especially for the Republicans that vote for it.
Many democrats will bleed out over this.

The house must not mention this bill in the house.

redguy on June 27, 2013 at 4:02 PM

“Son of a bartender” is already just as annoying as “son of a mill worker” was.

Mark1971 on June 27, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Si se Punta

portlandon on June 27, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Screw any Republican who ups the profile of Schumer.

Connie on June 27, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Senator Grassley R-IA said a few minutes ago that next week he is going to have 11 Town Meetings. Didn’t mention any other details.

I hope others will too.

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 3:53 PM

We need to DEMAND that all of our Senators and Congresspeople have TOWNHALL MEETINGS during either the July 4th Break or the August 5 – September 6 “State Work Period.”

We clearly need to remind these politicians who they are supposed to represent.

Get prepared to ask some tough questions! And bring video cameras if you have them.

wren on June 27, 2013 at 4:05 PM

If Republican voters dont primary out a couple of these frauds we might as well start a third party. Whats the point of being part of of a group that not only hate you and your beliefs but rewards action detrimental to the country?

If we are going down the toilet, lets go….im tired of this “picking at the band-aid” bull pucky….yank that puppy off. Lets send all these GOP jerks back into civilian life just in time to live with what they created.

The only way we pull out of this downward spiral now, is to change the game. The GOP will never do more than slightly delay our fiery crash.

Even Reagan couldnt change the Republican party and after his 8 years they went right back to being progressive focused failures.

The Whigs went away, and so, too, should the GOP.

Rand Paul is the perfect guy to lead the charge.

Something has to change, I, for one, want a different outcome than the continual deterioration of the past 50 years.

alecj on June 27, 2013 at 4:05 PM

After this travesty passes, can we get a post on the potentialities of a Third Party?

mjbrooks3 on June 27, 2013 at 3:50 PM

Still don’t see the point. There’s a Ted Cruz in every state – we just need to find him or her.

crrr6 on June 27, 2013 at 4:05 PM

At this point, I’ll be happy if just ONE senator changes his ‘yea’ vote from earlier to ‘nay’ on this one.

Liam on June 27, 2013 at 4:05 PM

How many of us will go the way of SWalker if this passes the house? I predict 80%.

nobar on June 27, 2013 at 4:05 PM

Remember Ozzie Myers from Abscam fame ,”Money talks and bullshit walks”. Thats all this is.The GOP Grandees want amnesty for cheap labor and future customers.Time for these contemporary WHIGS to go.

celtic warrior on June 27, 2013 at 4:05 PM

VegasRick on June 27, 2013 at 3:56 PM

I’m a gurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrlllllllllllllll!!!

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Is our thinking and are our votes really that irrelevant to that many Republicans in the Senate? Is this a reality check for conservatives?

mobydutch on June 27, 2013 at 4:06 PM

When our all-knowing Elites have finished emptying out Mexico, can we have it?

Maybe we can start over from scratch down there.

SCsteve on June 27, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Not a bad idea. My guess is that the next wave of illegals (for the amnesty of 2023) will have more OTMs (Other than Mexicans) – More Muslims, Africans and people from Central America.

Rather than draining the swamp, we have become the swamp.

bw222 on June 27, 2013 at 4:07 PM

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