Ecuador to US: Take your trade and shove it

posted at 2:01 pm on June 27, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

Ecuador’s government has only just received an asylum application from Edward Snowden and warns that it might take weeks or months to make a decision about it, but it appears that they are already making preparations for its approval. The small South American nation on the Pacific has enjoyed a generous trade deal with the US for its cooperation in narcotics-interdiction efforts.  Today, however, Ecuador suddenly renounced the deal, claiming that the US uses it for imperialism and interference — and offered to send $23 million to the US for education in human rights:

Ecuador unilaterally cancelled its trade deal with the United States on Thursday and offered to give the country $23 million a year to help with its “human rights” education in the latest twist in the two countries’ showdown over NSA leaker Edward Snowden.

The move aims to reject lawmakers’ “threat” not to renew an expiring preferential trade deal with Ecuador if the country grants Snowden’s request for political asylum, Communications Secretary Fernando Alvarado told reporters in Quito. Snowden remains in the transit area of the Moscow airport and Ecuador has said it could take months to process his application.

“Ecuador gives up, unilaterally and irrevocably, the said customs benefits,” Alvarado said, according to Reuters. “What’s more, Ecuador offers the United States economic aid of $23 million annually, similar to what we received with the trade benefits, with the intention of providing education about human rights.”

Yesterday, Senate Foreign Relations chair Robert Menendez threatened to block renewal of the pact if Ecuador granted Snowden asylum, which President Rafael Correa called “blackmail.” However, the deal delivered badly-needed open entry to US markets for energy (oil) and agricultural products, such as fruits, roses, and other floral products:

The ATPDEA agreement was initially signed by President George H.W. Bush in December 1991, allowing the countries involved to sell goods to the U.S. without paying import duties. It was designed to boost trade between the U.S. and Bolivia, Colombia, Ecuador and Peru.

The idea was to incentivize alternatives to cocaine production here. Colombia and Peru now have their own free trade agreements with the U.S. while Bolivia was kicked out in 2008. The U.S. said that it had failed to “cooperate with U.S. counternarcotics efforts.”

More than 50% of Ecuador’s exports go to the U.S., according to Cristian Espinosa, executive director of the Quito-based Ecuadorian-American Chamber of Commerce.

“The U.S. is our main trading partner,” said Espinosa. “We’ve been trying for years to make this relationship richer and deeper. When we see political events that might hinder our work, we of course are … concerned. We hope that these political events do not affect trade because both countries benefit a lot from bilateral trade.”

CNN also highlighted the stakes involved for Correa:

Alvarado, however, may be hoping to win a deal through back channels:

The program, initially meant to help Andean countries aiding in the fight against drugs, was facing an uphill fight for renewal. Alvarado did not explicitly mention a separate effort to win trade benefits under a presidential order.

With Menendez and House Democrat Sander Levin both vowing to kill any deal with Ecuador if Snowden gets asylum, Alvarado shouldn’t be holding his breath on a deal with Barack Obama.  Perhaps Alvarado or Correa might want to spend the $23 million to educate his own country on the benefits of a free press.

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I thought everyone liked us because of Obama. Wasn’t he, Obama the Uniting One? Didn’t he have a beer with a cop once?

Oil Can on June 27, 2013 at 2:06 PM

ROTFL It’s bad enough that Putin told Obama to stuff it. It’s much worse when a little country like Ecuador tells him to pound sand, including an offer to send America millions for ‘human rights education’.

Too funny!

Liam on June 27, 2013 at 2:07 PM

But, everybody loves America now, don’t they?

OldEnglish on June 27, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Oil Can on June 27, 2013 at 2:06 PM

Botheration – one has to be quick on this site!

OldEnglish on June 27, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Hmmm…

There’s a family from my church who are missionaries in Ecuador.

It looks like this is a good time to pray for them.

itsnotaboutme on June 27, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Good work!

djl130 on June 27, 2013 at 2:09 PM

I can’t believe I agree with Ecuador…

PatriotRider on June 27, 2013 at 2:09 PM

WWF Smackdown!

Johnnyreb on June 27, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Perhaps Alvarado or Correa might want to spend the $23 million to educate his own country on the benefits of a free press.

Why? Do you think we have a free press here?

The Rogue Tomato on June 27, 2013 at 2:10 PM

All of this uproar over a 29-year-old hacker?

rogerb on June 27, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Did they say what Obama can do with his Nobel Peace Prize?

Socratease on June 27, 2013 at 2:11 PM

That Obama, still winning us sooooo many friends over seas ain’t he?

Between his shameless pandering to Islamic countries, his outrageous apology tour, and now his hamfisted handling of Snowden’s case, shows to the world, when it comes to foreign policy..

Obama’s an idiot.

Didn’t the left claim electing Obama, would make the world just love us?… and stop hating us for Bush?..

Clue one left wingers..

The world doesn’t care what you think, they have their own agendas.. as should we. The key thing, is being smart enough to make things happen, something Obama has like Carter before him, shown to be a bad joke with the democrats hard left in charge.

mark81150 on June 27, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Perhaps Alvarado or Correa might want to spend the $23 million to educate his own country on the benefits of a free press.

Beat me to it RT…hell I think China may have a freer press than us…

PatriotRider on June 27, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Under Dear Leader we have finally reached third world country status…it worked.

d1carter on June 27, 2013 at 2:14 PM

I don’t think Castro ever ripped JFK the way Ecuador did to Obama.

Liam on June 27, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Team Obama strikes [out] again…

Certainly helped dispel that Latin American notion of Gringo American imperialism, didn’t it?

Was a time when quiet behind-the-scenes diplomacy worked wonders.

But, when you think you are king of the world…

…and we are surprised by this turn of events?

coldwarrior on June 27, 2013 at 2:15 PM

Beat me to it RT…hell I think China may have a freer press than us…

PatriotRider on June 27, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Probably..

the really galling part, is the American press simply castrated itself out of left wing zeal… while actual real journalists are facing jail in countries all over the world for the rights the American press p*ssed away.

mark81150 on June 27, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Hah, obama doesn’t send jets. He just sends drones and threatens small states. He’s such an eunuch.

Today he also said that “he’s not threatening Russia at all…it’s not his job to ask for Russia to give Snowden back” :):):)

Best movie to ever be made.

If the obama charlatanry will not unravel sooner one day he’ll write the book “How I fooled a stupid world, and got away with it“.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Obama,metetelo hasta el fondo!
President Rafael Correa

docflash on June 27, 2013 at 2:18 PM

Meanwhile the obama clan, niece, mother in law and other relations you work hard for to entertain, went to the “door of no return” in Senegal.

…it’s the door from which Obama’s forefathers sent the slaves from…yes, yes, his Muslim and black ancestors did that.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Breaking – Obama asked if there are any Islamic rebels against the current Ecuadorian government. /s

Seriously, they will give us Snowden if we also accept 100,000 very poor Ecuadorians. What’s another 100,000 onto the 11 million?

Oil Can on June 27, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Hmmm,

Moon over Parador

or

Drone over Ecuador

?

derit on June 27, 2013 at 2:20 PM

…one day he’ll write the book “How I fooled a stupid world, and got away with it“.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Only if the Warden out in Florence, Colorado’ allows him paper and pencils.

coldwarrior on June 27, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Was a time when quiet behind-the-scenes diplomacy worked wonders.

But, when you think you are king of the world…

…and we are surprised by this turn of events?

coldwarrior on June 27, 2013 at 2:15 PM

we’re not.. just the low/no info voters who bought into his self proclaimed crap about being the smartest guy in the room.. That always galled the Hell out of me, I tested in the 97th percentile, and NEVER felt that way.. there is book smart, and real life smart, then wisdom,.. and to claim because you’re pampered and coddled that you’re head and shoulders above everyone else is so arrogant, it’s a wonder he doesn’t sink to the core of the Earth from the sheer weight of it.

mark81150 on June 27, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Hmmm,

Moon over Parador

or

Drone over Ecuador

?

derit on June 27, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Thread winner!

Liam on June 27, 2013 at 2:23 PM

Can the IRS audit Ecuador?

pain train on June 27, 2013 at 2:23 PM

and offered to send $23 million to the US for education in human rights:

Oh, SNAP!

LegendHasIt on June 27, 2013 at 2:24 PM

…it’s the door from which Obama’s forefathers sent the slaves from…yes, yes, his Muslim and black ancestors did that.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 2:19 PM

Your Truthisms are magnificent!

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 2:25 PM

Can the IRS audit Ecuador?

pain train on June 27, 2013 at 2:23 PM

you know he thought that for a quick second..

but he can always stomp his feet and turn blue,… that’ll work..

got him through Harvard.

mark81150 on June 27, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Thread winner!

Liam on June 27, 2013 at 2:23 PM

2nd that

cmsinaz on June 27, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Today, however, Ecuador suddenly renounced the deal, claiming that the US uses it for imperialism and interference — and offered to send $23 million to the US for education in human rights:

Folks, this is a huge slap at the USA.

obama robbed the land of the last shred of decency and moral authority.

Snowden may be all the bad things in the world but this much he exposed. obama killed the last shred of sanctimony from the so-called ‘good’ governments. obama, maliciously, diminished the beacon the US once was. He finished her off, transparently.

A tiny dictatorial gov’t can now lecture the USA on “human rights”.

Yes, they can!!!

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 2:28 PM

Looks like Ecuador just jumped WAY up on my personal list of countries to consider moving / retiring to.

KMC1 on June 27, 2013 at 2:28 PM

and offered to send $23 million to the US for education in human rights

Oh, SNAP!

LegendHasIt on June 27, 2013 at 2:24 PM

Heh.

whatcat on June 27, 2013 at 2:30 PM

I don’t think Castro ever ripped JFK the way Ecuador did to Obama.

Liam on June 27, 2013 at 2:14 PM

JFK had his finger on a button. Obutthead has his finger up his a$$. Who would you be more afraid to pi$$ off?

NOMOBO on June 27, 2013 at 2:30 PM

A tiny dictatorial gov’t can now lecture the USA on “human rights”.

Yes, they can!!!

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 2:28 PM

Need I SAY more? I don’t think I can top that!!

(Will Lurk) :D

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 2:31 PM

But, everybody loves America now, don’t they?

OldEnglish on June 27, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Only love her? All respect her, like never before.

Cheers!!!

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 2:32 PM

Cheers!!!
Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 2:32 PM

*Double Clink*

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 2:33 PM

But, everybody loves America now, don’t they?

OldEnglish on June 27, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Not anymore. No country on Earth is going to want to trade with another country that is monetizing the shit out of its debt and making its own currency worth less and less. Ecuador may be getting a jump on things, but the rest of the world will follow eventually irrespective of what happens to Eddie Snowden.

gryphon202 on June 27, 2013 at 2:34 PM

OT – the incredible PIGS in the senate, from both sides.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 2:34 PM

I wonder if Obama already knows he got a beat down, or if he’ll first learn about it in tomorrow morning’s papers.

Liam on June 27, 2013 at 2:34 PM

Weakness is provocative and Obama has managed to provoke a second rate, banana republic dictator to take a shot at him.

RadClown on June 27, 2013 at 2:34 PM

Weakness is provocative and Obama has managed to provoke a second rate, banana republic dictator to take a shot at him.

RadClown on June 27, 2013 at 2:34 PM

What’s really sad is that second-rate banana republic dictator looks good in comparison.

gryphon202 on June 27, 2013 at 2:36 PM

Second look at Ecuador.

CurtZHP on June 27, 2013 at 2:37 PM

I’m literally LMFAO.

D-fusit on June 27, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Second look at Ecuador the rest of the world outside of America.

CurtZHP on June 27, 2013 at 2:37 PM

FIFY, Curt.

gryphon202 on June 27, 2013 at 2:38 PM

OT – the incredible PIGS in the senate, from both sides.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 2:34 PM

Ohhhhhhhh Boy…. Bastages!!

The destruction of America is gaining speed as it rolls down hill, brakes? What fricking brakes?

Stop the world! I wanna get off!!

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 2:39 PM

and offered to send $23 million to the US for education in human rights:

I say we take it and give it to the Tea Party.

Ann on June 27, 2013 at 2:40 PM

Stop the world! I wanna get off!!

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 2:39 PM

Oh, no! If we gotta suffer, you gotta suffer. :-)

Liam on June 27, 2013 at 2:41 PM

Cheers!!!

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 2:32 PM

You’re just trying to get me drunk, aren’t you? If I drink to America’s current situation, I’ll never stop! :)

OldEnglish on June 27, 2013 at 2:42 PM

Via Ecuador!

claudius on June 27, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Wherein we see the inherent inadequacy of The Chicago Way. “Nice bilateral trade you got there. It’d be a shame if anything happened to it” just doesn’t cut it.

Christien on June 27, 2013 at 2:43 PM

and offered to send $23 million to the US for education in human rights:

And we’re going to need every penny of it educating this regime.

rbj on June 27, 2013 at 2:43 PM

Old and Busted: Social Darwinism
The New Hotness: Socialist Darwinism

Christien on June 27, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Ecuador: Hasta LaVista baby!
Squeeze then until they see the light.

Art on June 27, 2013 at 2:47 PM

Liam on June 27, 2013 at 2:41 PM

Sigh… I’ll do my bit ):

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 2:48 PM

and offered to send $23 million to the US for education in human rights:

Dear Ecuador, first we need to educate our children and future telephone ladies.

Jeantel, head bowed, eyes averted whispered into the court microphone, “Some but not all. I don’t read cursive.”

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Today, however, Ecuador suddenly renounced the deal, claiming that the US uses it for imperialism and interference — and offered to send $23 million to the US for education in human rights:

Fitting.

mythicknight on June 27, 2013 at 2:49 PM

…as if she knows what “cursive” means.

How many of you schooled ones, not us rubes and hicks, use the word “cursive”?

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 2:50 PM

You’re just trying to get me drunk, aren’t you? If I drink to America’s current situation, I’ll never stop! :)

OldEnglish on June 27, 2013 at 2:42 PM

Dear chap, no drinking on this one. It’s all really very sad/bad for the world. This has dire consequences.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Too bad Hillary quit her job as Secretary of State. She and Obama could have backed a commie coup against Correa (nice alliteration, TYVM) like they with Zelaya in Honduras.

Christien on June 27, 2013 at 2:54 PM

…as if she knows what “cursive” means.

How many of you schooled ones, not us rubes and hicks, use the word “cursive”?

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Maybe we should make it the HotAir word of the day.

“When I get mad, I become very cursive.”

Liam on June 27, 2013 at 2:56 PM

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Apologies – I thought it was in the vein of “drowning one’s sorrows”.

OldEnglish on June 27, 2013 at 2:57 PM

What America is going thru slowly:

Death Rattle: Pantera

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zYMKpansP8

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 2:58 PM

“When I get mad, I become very cursive.”

Liam on June 27, 2013 at 2:56 PM

Shame on You!! ;D

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 2:58 PM

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Is that anything like “running writing”?

OldEnglish on June 27, 2013 at 2:59 PM

OE, nothing to apologize for, ever, nor to apologise :)

Heh, I noticed you through the red-head out yesterday.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Notice how the trolls are always missing from these types of threads.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 3:01 PM

The realms of death
Death rattle shaking
Accumulating life it’s taking

Death rattle shakes

I’ve seen the end, and there is no light.
Like deadly snakes, death rattle shakes

Pantera

Scrumpy on June 27, 2013 at 3:01 PM

Wow, countries are now Standing in Line to tell us to go F*ck
ourselves…good times, good times….

ToddPA on June 27, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Wow, countries are now Standing in Line to tell us to go F*ck
ourselves…good times, good times….

ToddPA on June 27, 2013 at 3:02 PM

And I for one am enjoying it. It takes a turd world thug to stand up to our corrupt gubmint and our so called leaders (rubio, heller, etc.) bend over and give him whatever he wants.

VegasRick on June 27, 2013 at 3:08 PM

Wow, countries are now Standing in Line to tell us to go F*ck
ourselves…good times, good times….

ToddPA on June 27, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Nobel substantive materials

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 3:12 PM

Just a sign of the times for the zero regime. Now we’ve got a 2nd rate SA country flipping us off and telling us to leave and take our threats and trade agreement with us. That’s ok, I’m sure prezzy never met a vacation he didn’t want to take will get things zinging in the African trade deal. Oh on second thought, we’ll take the $23M and use it to defray some of his vacay costs.

Kissmygrits on June 27, 2013 at 3:14 PM

Now if only more of the people in THIS country could figure out what Ecuador has apparently learned – life is NOT better when you’re living off handouts that are used as leverage to control you.

dentarthurdent on June 27, 2013 at 3:15 PM

Maybe the US will get involved in the Chevron case against Ecuador?

blammm on June 27, 2013 at 3:17 PM

Wow, countries are now Standing in Line to tell us to go F*ck
ourselves…good times, good times….

ToddPA on June 27, 2013 at 3:02 PM

Nobel substantive materials

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 3:12 PM

+100

ToddPA on June 27, 2013 at 3:17 PM

Well, 0bama did promise the world that if they helped elect him he would end the economic and political domination of the USA over the rest of the world, So I guess that everyone has gotten what they wanted.

Except for a handful of evil conservatives who love freedom and success.

LegendHasIt on June 27, 2013 at 3:18 PM

Fine, we’ll buy our bananas eslewhere. And we should take the 23 million.

iurockhead on June 27, 2013 at 3:19 PM

Is that anything like “running writing”?

OldEnglish on June 27, 2013 at 2:59 PM

You got me to focus on my favorite word for obama and what’s going on, from him to the land and from Ecuador to obama.

Contumelious

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 3:21 PM

Second look at Ecuador.

CurtZHP on June 27, 2013 at 2:37 PM

Have you not seen the commercials on TV for Belize?

Barred on June 27, 2013 at 3:21 PM

……That’s ok, I’m sure prezzy never met a vacation he didn’t want to take will get things zinging in the African trade deal. Oh on second thought, we’ll take the $23M and use it to defray some of his vacay costs.

Kissmygrits on June 27, 2013 at 3:14 PM

23 mill wouldn’t go very far the way 0 racks up the bills.

iurockhead on June 27, 2013 at 3:21 PM

I wonder how long Obama’s ego can handle these kinds of hits. It’ll be interesting to hear how snarky he gets if he makes a public statement on this.

Liam on June 27, 2013 at 3:22 PM

Second look at Ecuador.

CurtZHP on June 27, 2013 at 2:37 PM

It’s just become more dictatorial, less freedom of the press since recently, is under the Venezuelan wing of regimes.

Have you not seen the commercials on TV for Belize?

Barred on June 27, 2013 at 3:21 PM

Don’t be fooled. It’s one of the last ‘tax-evasion’ so-called heavens…not for long. obama has neutered Switzerland, the part of the Cayman Islands that had it, Panama and others…Belize is next. All part of globalization = control of the entire sheepleton bank of the world.

This is why Snowden is such a god-sent to the stupid world. Eh, world is blind and doesn’t deserve his gift.

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 3:24 PM

and offered to send $23 million to the US for education in human rights:

“Dear Ecuador, that doesn’t even cover 1/4 of our Africa boondogle” — the obama clan

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 3:27 PM

Alternative Headline…

Ecuador disses Chrissy Matthew’s boyfriend!

Seven Percent Solution on June 27, 2013 at 3:34 PM

Not Obama’s fault. He said he doesn’t speak Ecuadorean.

GreenBlade on June 27, 2013 at 3:36 PM

How much deeper can the world slide go? About 237 years of building relations to advance the good will of the United States and this Administration is sending it right down the toilet with a left to right and right to left spin.

DDay on June 27, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Watch out Ecuador or a “sternly worded letter” may be headed your way. And thanks for the 23 mil, but O will just have to borrow another Billion or so to make the program worth sending to his cronies. Never gave much thought to Ecuador but it’s looking better and better.

yesiamapirate on June 27, 2013 at 3:44 PM

How much deeper can the world slide go? About 237 years of building relations to advance the good will of the United States and this Administration is sending it right down the toilet with a left to right and right to left spin.

DDay on June 27, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Maybe its time for a really big flood…..

dentarthurdent on June 27, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Ecuador to US: Take your trade and shove it

No more banana sundaes for Moochelle.

petefrt on June 27, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Oh my. I can’t help but get a chuckle out of other leaders telling Americans to take a hike. And offering us money too? That’s hilarious. Let’s see if Putin will offer us a few billion to shove off hahaha.

scalleywag on June 27, 2013 at 3:50 PM

kakistocracy (plural kakistocracies)
Government under the control of a nation’s worst or least-qualified citizens.

Flange on June 27, 2013 at 3:59 PM

Hmmm, how many more budding Edward Snowdens are out there?

redguy on June 27, 2013 at 4:00 PM

We haven’t been sent to get extra napkins yet, but Barack Obama is responsible for the most dramatic decrease in a nation’s standing since Alderaan was blown up by the Death Star in 1977 (Earth date).

Schadenfreude on June 27, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Somehow, I think Ecuador means it.

TimBuk3 on June 27, 2013 at 4:04 PM

Good for Ecuador.

ebrawer on June 27, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Ecuador should have just offered to ship Menendez a plane full of underaged hookers. He would have rolled right over for them.

Gator Country on June 27, 2013 at 4:08 PM

Too bad Hillary quit her job as Secretary of State. She and Obama could have backed a commie coup against Correa (nice alliteration, TYVM) like they with Zelaya in Honduras.

Christien on June 27, 2013 at 2:54 PM

The outcome would have been the same- a small South American country telling the World’s Greatest Superpower to stuff it where the sun doesn’t shine, and looking good doing it. So I ask you: at this point, what would it have mattered?

BillH on June 27, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Smart power, on display.

UltimateBob on June 27, 2013 at 4:12 PM

kakistocracy (plural kakistocracies)
Government under the control of a nation’s worst or least-qualified citizens.

Flange on June 27, 2013 at 3:59 PM

That’s even better, and more accurate, than the Idiocracy (as with the movie) that I’ve been saying we’re in.

dentarthurdent on June 27, 2013 at 4:30 PM

$23 million for an Ecuadoran education in spying. Snowden never made nearly that much with the NSA. Methinks he’ll get some visits from Fidel and his goons.

However, the deal delivered badly-needed open entry to US markets for energy (oil) and agricultural products, such as fruits, roses, and other floral products:

Women of America can blame Snowden if they don’t get Ecuadoran roses on Valentine’s Day.

The idea was to incentivize alternatives to cocaine production here. Colombia and Peru now have their own free trade agreements with the U.S. while Bolivia was kicked out in 2008.

Are they cheering Ecuadoran stupidity in Bogota and Lima? This might increase market share for Colombia and Peru, both of which are much larger than Ecuador.

Steve Z on June 27, 2013 at 4:31 PM

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