Pro-Obama group to environmental activists: It’s probably best to just avoid economic arguments altogether

posted at 12:41 pm on June 26, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

No kidding.

Ahead of President Obama’s big ‘climate change action plan‘-reveal yesterday, a talking point memo circulating among Obama supporters and environmentalist allies pretty aptly demonstrated exactly what many of the real-world affects of the president’s energy-sector overhaul are going to look like — which is why they’d really rather that we just avoid mentioning them. Via National Journal:

The memo, obtained by National Journal, includes a “do’s and don’t’s” list of phrases to use (and not use) when advocating for action on climate change. “Do discuss modernizing and retooling power plants and innovation that will create green jobs…Don’t try to suggest net job increases,” reads one part of the memo.

Ken Berlin, chair of the Energy & Environment Team, a group of national, state and local energy and climate leaders, distributed the memo to his group of about 1,300 people who have organized around these issues for the Obama campaign.

Berlin said the memo was written by the Climate Action Coalition, a new coalition of most major environmental groups. He added the umbrella group is coordinated in part by Kevin Curtis, who is also affiliated with The Climate Reality Project, an advocacy group founded by environmentalist and former Vice President Al Gore. …

More from the 14-page memo’s “do’s and don’t’s” list: “Do inform audiences about the nature of the problem, who is at fault, and what can be done…Don’t debate the increase in electricity rates. Instead pivot to health & clean air message.” Another one says: “Do use ‘cutting carbon pollution from power plants’…Don’t use ‘regulations to control greenhouse gas emissions from power plants.’ ”

Remember how, during last year’s campaign season, the Obama campaign was pretty serious about climate change staying firmly in the election’s background? There was some very smart logic going on there, because the Obama administration, organized environmentalists, and their ilk are all too perfectly well aware that further federal regulations and top-down control are going to have some very unpopular ripple effects. The WSJ nails it:

President Obama’s climate speech on Tuesday was grandiose even for him, but its surreal nature was its particular hallmark. Some 12 million Americans still can’t find work, real wages have fallen for five years, three-fourths of Americans now live paycheck to check, and the economy continues to plod along four years into a quasi-recovery. But there was the President in tony Georgetown, threatening more energy taxes and mandates that will ensure fewer jobs, still lower incomes and slower growth.

Mr. Obama’s “climate action plan” adds up to one of the most extensive reorganizations of the U.S. economy since the 1930s, imposed through administrative fiat and raw executive power. He wants to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 17% by 2020, but over his 6,500-word address he articulated no such goal for the unemployment rate or GDP. …

The higher costs will ripple through the energy chain, which is precisely Mr. Obama’s goal. Only by artificially raising the cost of carbon energy can he make even heavily subsidized “renewables” competitive. …

For all his talk about helping and raising people into the middle class, it’s a highly regressive burden coming at a time of extended economic hardship and joblessness for many — and I don’t interpret it as the president “Doing Something in the face of an Obstructionist Congress” as much as him deliberately skirting the democratic process.


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Separation of Loony Church and Mismanagement of State.

NoDonkey on June 26, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Richard Windsor probably should have kept that memo in his Draft folder.

Spider79 on June 26, 2013 at 12:44 PM

Especially when you’re dumber than a sack of doorknobs on economics.

CurtZHP on June 26, 2013 at 12:44 PM

“Putin, Snowden…or else…squirrel…environment” — Mr. Asterisk

Obama is illegitimate in his 2nd term and his first one was all charlatanry.

Schadenfreude on June 26, 2013 at 12:45 PM

They don’t have to mention the economic impacts. We’ll do it for them.

Liam on June 26, 2013 at 12:45 PM

Carbon is not pollution. Greenhouse gases are not pollution and have no effect on human health. This doublespeak by the Left must be challenged everywhere. They are deliberately misleading low-information voters by trying to conjure up images of Los Angeles blanketed with smog and Lake Erie on fire.

Just because they got a liberal court to define greenhouse gases as a “pollutant” under the Clean Air Act, in direct defiance of the clear intent of Congress, does not mean they are entitled to call it “pollution.”

Disgusting.

rockmom on June 26, 2013 at 12:45 PM

What economy—it’s already been destroyed by him.

hillsoftx on June 26, 2013 at 12:45 PM

“Just tell everyone that they’re going to die a horrible death if we don’t immediately go to an all-solar energy grid.”

Bishop on June 26, 2013 at 12:45 PM

If the economy were a children’s play, this would be the part where we are supposed to “clap for Tinkerbell” to bring her back to life.

And these guys are supposed to be the smartest ones in the room?

DarthBrooks on June 26, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Horse, oxen and goat futures are going up…as are those for wooden-wheeled cart manufacturers, and now would be a good time to get in with the wattle and daub home builders…gonna be a boom in those sooner that any of us would have ever imagined if any of this ObamaGreen garbage becomes law.

Obama figures if a huge chunk of his family can subsist in straw and cardboard shacks…well, we all must do our part, too, you know.

His core supporters are gonna be hard-pressed to gin up their Play Stations and the 60-inch TV’s with no electricity though. Solar and wind just wont cut it to power all those little gems.

coldwarrior on June 26, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Think the lambs the Judas goat leads get mad as they get fleeced then slaughtered?

I was thinking maybe they could get a lamb version of MSNBC and keep them occupied and angry about 60 year old voting laws or a young lamb who got shot while stalking a new meadow.

IlikedAUH2O on June 26, 2013 at 12:50 PM

When the goal is to destroy the economy, it’s best not to put oneself in the position of needing to lie to avoiding saying the policies will destroy the economy.

Steve Eggleston on June 26, 2013 at 12:54 PM

His core supporters are gonna be hard-pressed to gin up their Play Stations and the 60-inch TV’s with no electricity though. Solar and wind just wont cut it to power all those little gems.

coldwarrior on June 26, 2013 at 12:48 PM

Imagine their shock when they’re also expected to live in North Korea.

Steve Eggleston on June 26, 2013 at 12:55 PM

Solyndra. Algae. Dead eagles.

That’s all I could hear in my mind while listening to his dribble.

patman77 on June 26, 2013 at 12:57 PM

I thought we were supposed to lead from behind.

Was he talking about GDP?

IlikedAUH2O on June 26, 2013 at 12:59 PM

I thought we were supposed to lead from behind.

Was he talking about GDP?

IlikedAUH2O on June 26, 2013 at 12:59 PM

“GDP, foreign policy; what’s the difference?”

-Teh SCOAMT

Steve Eggleston on June 26, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Save the planet……

…..for the Chinese Communists and Russians who seem to have no problem developing their resources.

PappyD61 on June 26, 2013 at 1:06 PM

He wants to reduce greenhouse gas emissions by 17% by 2020, but over his 6,500-word address he articulated no such goal for the unemployment rate or GDP…

That’s because the last thing Obama and the Left want is for the imperialist, AmeriKKKan economy to improve. In fact, they want to take it down a few more pegs. There’s still way too many independent people in this country who need their comeuppance.

RadClown on June 26, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Pro-Obama group to environmental activists: It’s probably best to just avoid economic arguments altogether

Well after listening to the President yesterday, there’s
a hell of a lot of Flat Earthers out there!!

This Nation cannot sustain this kind of Idiocy much longer…

ToddPA on June 26, 2013 at 1:07 PM

And you know if we could get rid of obese people and food pimps like Paula Deen we’d all be a lot healthier and be putting less strain on the resources of this pristine planet.

http://conservativebyte.com/2013/06/paula-deen-on-today-i-is-what-i-is-people-make-mistakes/

PappyD61 on June 26, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Climate change had to have been an invention of communists that were just waiting for enough useful idiots to implement their plan to take America down. They got the crown jewel of such an idiot in Obama…and in spades!! NPI

Deano1952 on June 26, 2013 at 1:14 PM

“We must de-develop the United States.” -O’s Science Czar
You know why they are going to avoid economic arguments, because other than the bs pretense of fighting global warming climate change, Obama and the radical greens real motivation is to sack the economy. Really. Obama’s “Science” Czar John Holdren said it as early as 1973, way before the gwarming scare, said “A massive campaign must be launched to de-develop the United States… [we] must design a stable, low-consumption economy.”

De-develop the United States?
Anything that promotes the economy in any way would be anathema to someone that wants to “de-develop the United States.” And Holdren has not recanted his position, and Holdren has remained as Obama’s trusted advisor for 5 years.
And energy is the most important key to economic vitality. So economic arguments won’t work here. Because Obama is simply thrusting a dagger into our economic heart by critically weakening our energy sector. Energy will be less abundant, and potentially much more expensive, especially electricity. There’s no upside. Industry and families are going to hurt – badly. Look what’s happening in Europe, and especially England. We are headed down that scary path.
“We have wished, we ecofreaks, for a disaster… to bomb us into the stone age, where we might live like Indians, with our localism, our appropriate technology, our gardens, our homemade religion, guilt free at last.” -Stewart Brand, Whole Earth Catalogue
“We’ve got to ride the global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing …” -leftist Senator Tim Wirth, 1993
“Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?” -Maurice Strong, ex UNEP Director
“We have to offer up scary scenarios… each of us has to decide the right balance between being effective [dishonest] and being honest [ineffective].” -Stephen Schneider, lead ipcc author, 1989
“The only way to get our society to truly change is to frighten people with the possibility of a catastrophe.” -Daniel Botkin, ex Chair of Environmental Studies, UCSB

anotherJoe on June 26, 2013 at 1:24 PM

Jamie Foxx would be a great Science adviser for Obama.

He makes about as much sense as any of our leaders.

http://www.ebony.com/black-listed/entertainment-culture/jamie-foxx-defends-i-kill-all-the-white-people-joke-981#axzz2XLOfhk5O

After all, he played Obama in that White House movie recently.

PappyD61 on June 26, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Interesting that the ‘environmentalist’s’ and their main stream media puppets don’t wish to discuss the cessation of warming over the last 15 years. There has effectively been NONE. However, they insist that the “science is settled” despite that fact that their own ‘climate scientists’ can’t explain why there has been zero warming for over 15 years.

Also quite telling that the environmentalist’s are being told to avoid any discussion of the economics involved in their plans for the nation’s energy scheme.

The fact is that the ‘environmentalist’s’ don’t have a clue about the climate, warming, or the economics of their proposed plans for our energy sector. Yet…they INSIST that they know best for not only this nation, but the entire world.

Those who disagree with the ‘environmentalist’s’ in this debate have been called ‘Flat Earther’s’ by the President of the United States and he categorically refused to discuss the issue with those whom he tagged with that very derogatory and dismissive term. A mark, no doubt, of his degree of respect for the citizens of this nation who dare to disagree with his favored policies…for any reason.

Those who disagree with the favored policies of the ‘environmentalist’s’ ( and I set that term aside in single quotes because I beleive these individuals and groups have thoroughly demonstrated that they have no real regard for the environment, either in this nation or globally, but rather use the term as a cover for their political agenda, which is to dominate the energy sector and means to redistribte the wealth of this nation and other developed nations as these groups and individuals see fit)tend to pay attention to the scientific debate, are always willing to discuss new findings and advancements in understanding the issue, and understand the economic underpinnings, effects of the energy sector and its future, as well as the projected results of any proposed changes to our energy sector.

Begs the question: WHO are the ‘Flat Earther’s’ in this discussion?

thatsafactjack on June 26, 2013 at 2:02 PM

PappyD61 on June 26, 2013 at 1:06 PM

Yea. Most of the world thinks that the US and Old Europe are like Do Do birds.

The planet will go on fine without us.

IlikedAUH2O on June 26, 2013 at 2:19 PM

So last week it was “focus on JOBS and the ECONOMY” everything else, the IRS, DOJ, PRISM, etc. is all distractions by the evil Republicans away from the ECONOMY AND JOBS!

And today “Don’t talk about what this will do to the economy, or jobs… but it must be a good thing even if it hurts both the economy and jobs.”

Amazing how quickly we changed directions…
Lord of the Pivot strikes again.

gekkobear on June 26, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Lord of the Pivot strikes again.

gekkobear on June 26, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Funny, that’s what the guys at Punahou called him.

coldwarrior on June 26, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Is the Climate Action Coalition a (c)4, or (c)5, organization; and how long did it take the IRS to make a determination on their status?

Another Drew on June 26, 2013 at 2:57 PM

thatsafactjack on June 26, 2013 at 2:02 PM

The only association between the “warming alarmists” and the “flat earther’s”, is that the alarmists all need to be buried beneath that flat earth – six-feet deep!

Another Drew on June 26, 2013 at 3:01 PM