MSNBC anchor pretty bummed SCOTUS gay marriage rulings “gut power of federal government”

posted at 9:21 pm on June 26, 2013 by Mary Katharine Ham

The ever-watchful Noah Rothman caught this moment of delicious liberal, well, consistency from Melissa Harris-Perry. Even though her criticism is from the left, she comes dangerously close to not exalting in the SCOTUS decisions today, and the crew at MSNBC is visibly unsettled by it.

Harris-Perry threw cold water on the celebrations ongoing at 30 Rock when she lamented the Court’s decision to not rule in the case against Proposition 8. She said that this ruling, along with other decisions the Court handed down this session, “gut the power of the federal government” and prevent Washington D.C. from declaring gay marriage the law in all 50 states.

“It’s been kind of a rocky week for rulings from the Supreme Court,” Roberts opined.

Harris-Perry agreed and apologized for being the cautious voice in the room and interrupting the “celebratory” atmosphere on MSNBC.

“As much as those of us who are allies of this movement, and those of us how’ve been working hard on the question of marriage equality would like to read this in the broadest sense,” Harris-Perry began. “What they did, all week long – from the beginning to the end of this week so far – is to gut the power of the federal government.”

Harris-Perry approved of the Court striking down DOMA and sending Prop 8 back to California, but noted that “marriage may be even farther away” in other states because the federal government cannot now pass a law forcing gay marriage rights on more conservative states.

Harris-Perry is no fan of federalism, but in two decisions this week—one whose results she hates and one whose results she likes—the Court sided with federal modesty. I actually appreciate that she’s not one of the many who declared the Court hopelessly backward and racist Monday only to declare it the savior of all that is good with mankind today. Oh, she called them racist and backwards, to be sure; her 180 was just less dramatic than most. I don’t fancy myself a legal expert, but never has such a relatively cerebral medium produced such ridiculous, hysterical commentary as with Supreme Court opinions.

And, since we’re indulging in a little MSNBC watching, here, let’s also tee up members of the media Chris Matthews and Dana Milbank and the ranking member of House Oversight Rep. Elijah Cummings endorse the debunked report that liberals were systematically targeted by the IRS and declare Issa’s been doing nothing but “shooting blanks” on Benghazi, IRS, and any other thing he’s investigated.

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Presumably, they think the findings that caused Rep. Tammy Duckworth’s righteous rant today are “blanks,” too? Issa’s the guy who found Castillo’s wrongdoing by asking the kind of beyond-the-pale questions Matthews and crew would prefer he didn’t.

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The Bill of Rights only has Nine Amendments …

/State-Run Media

ShainS on June 26, 2013 at 9:29 PM

…who cares?

KOOLAID2 on June 26, 2013 at 9:29 PM

Liberals are worthless and useless.

Liam on June 26, 2013 at 9:34 PM

…thread must be closed!…we’re tires of MSLSD!

KOOLAID2 on June 26, 2013 at 9:34 PM

There isn’t a damned thing any liberal has ever done to the betterment of Man and society.

Liam on June 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM

I’ll post this again…

“Not So Fast: Prop 8 is Still California Law”

… Oops!

:)

Seven Percent Solution on June 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM

I always believed this should be up to the States. I also believe no one should have to cater, do flowers, play music, make cake,or marry gays if they feel it is against their beliefs….

sandee on June 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Harris-Perry reminds me of Armin and Brainfree.

The kind of mindset which would tip the Auschwitz guard for showing them the way to the showers.

viking01 on June 26, 2013 at 9:37 PM

The Bill of Rights only has Nine Eight Amendments …

/State-Run Media

ShainS on June 26, 2013 at 9:29 PM

They don’t like the 2nd or 10th.

RickB on June 26, 2013 at 9:38 PM

“Not So Fast: Prop 8 is Still California Law”

… Oops!

:)

Seven Percent Solution on June 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM

I saw this earlier. I thought Moonbeam had already open the gates in 30 days…?

d1carter on June 26, 2013 at 9:42 PM

With all the persons, whom are against redefining marriage, missing the problem that is out in the open, she doesn’t suprise me (based upon her normal imbecility).

Read Kennedy’s opinion; then read the 14th Amendment; then tell me how it does not impress upon the States. Focus on “Due Process” and “Liberty”.

John Kettlewell on June 26, 2013 at 9:43 PM

I always believed this should be up to the States. I also believe no one should have to cater, do flowers, play music, make cake,or marry gays if they feel it is against their beliefs….

sandee on June 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM

Unfortunately proponents of gay marriage go scorched earth. They don’t want it left up to the states nor do they want people to be able to speak and live according to their beliefs.

INC on June 26, 2013 at 9:44 PM

…who cares?

KOOLAID2 on June 26, 2013 at 9:29 PM

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Concur. I am so sick of liberals and their crap and the antics of every grievance group on the planet making noise about every damn thing. I’m just sick of all of it, really.

ExpressoBold on June 26, 2013 at 9:45 PM

Harris-Perry is no fan of federalism, but in two decisions this week—one whose results she hates and one whose results she likes—the Court sided with federal modesty.

No, they didn’t.

Harris-Perry need not worry her head. Liberal SCOTUS judges are happy to hold to one principle of jurisprudence today and the opposite tomorrow, as long as the result is what they want. The “federalism” claim is a dead letter: see, the fact that the 4 who voted to continue the VRA voted against DOMA the next day.

This is why all the twerps who alluded to some “cunning plan” on the part of John Roberts to “trick” the 4 liberals into declaring Obamacare a tax or whatever were blowing air. The SCOTUS chairs are the liberal papacy. They aren’t bound by legal reasoning once they attain that chair.

To liberal jurists, stare decisis is Latin for “Roe vs. Wade”.

HitNRun on June 26, 2013 at 9:48 PM

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Concur. I am so sick of liberals and their crap and the antics of every grievance group on the planet making noise about every damn thing. I’m just sick of all of it, really.

ExpressoBold on June 26, 2013 at 9:45 PM

Agreed. If they were a state, their symbol would be the Magpie.

itsspideyman on June 26, 2013 at 9:50 PM

Melissa Harris-Perry

…sorry!… but that thing is just too ugly!

KOOLAID2 on June 26, 2013 at 9:51 PM

So the Federal Government has authority over Arizona (and all the other states when it comes to “border security”), but not when it comes to marriage laws (or abortion)?

I’m confused.

SouthernGent on June 26, 2013 at 9:51 PM

What we really need is some more Headline stories on Snowden…

d1carter on June 26, 2013 at 9:59 PM

GAYS / GUNS / AMNESTY

The media jihad just got Justice Sodomy Kennedy to pour gasoline on the fire.

Truly, America is becoming the Great Satan.

PappyD61 on June 26, 2013 at 10:00 PM

The Federal Government Thud rule everything!!

Eat Thit Haterth!!

BigWyo on June 26, 2013 at 10:00 PM

Seven Percent Solution on June 26, 2013 at 9:36 PM

I hate to break it to that legal genius, but Lawgiver-In-Black Walker was acting as an appellate judge, specifically an appeal from the California Supreme Court. That means his decision is final since the state refused to appeal and SCOTUS said that the state cannot assign its interest to mere subjects.

Steve Eggleston on June 26, 2013 at 10:01 PM

Odd how liberals embrace the notion of a ‘living breathing constitution’ except when the ‘living breathing’ marches in a direction contrary to their spittle flecked tirades.

locomotivebreath1901 on June 26, 2013 at 10:02 PM

As for the main question, the 38 37 states that don’t sanction gay “marriage” are now on notice that they have but a short amount of time to “rectify” that on their own before SCOTUS comes back and crams it down their throats. Do recall the trajectory of section 4(b) of the Voting Rights Act; first SCOTUS put Congress on notice that it needed to update the criteria for requiring “preclearance”, then a few years after Congress failed to act, it wiped out the existing criteria.

Steve Eggleston on June 26, 2013 at 10:06 PM

but not when it comes to marriage laws (or abortion)?

I’m confused.

SouthernGent on June 26, 2013 at 9:51 P

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U. S. Constitution, Article IV, Section 4:

‘The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.

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Show me the sections about gay marriage and abortion.

ExpressoBold on June 26, 2013 at 10:07 PM

Not that it mattered to the dozens of people who still bother to watch MSNBC… most of whom are in the control room at 30 Rock.

Myron Falwell on June 26, 2013 at 10:08 PM

And, since we’re indulging in a little MSNBC watching, here, let’s also tee up members of the media Chris Matthews and Dana Milbank and the ranking member of House Oversight Rep. Elijah Cummings endorse the debunked report that liberals were systematically targeted by the IRS and declare Issa’s been doing nothing but “shooting blanks” on Benghazi, IRS, and any other thing he’s investigated.

Do I have to? I’ve just eaten.

avagreen on June 26, 2013 at 10:42 PM

SouthernGent on June 26, 2013 at 9:51 PM

Good one.

avagreen on June 26, 2013 at 10:44 PM

I think someone on the other thread said that the company owned by the “disabled” guy gave $2500 to Romney/Ryan. That should be enough for him to the the one and only person to have his contract pulled and the IRS guy to be fired and his pension taken away. I hear they sent texts with gay slurs also. These guys are toast. We’ll take what we can get.

Cindy Munford on June 26, 2013 at 11:30 PM

I think I might have hit the wrong thread.

Cindy Munford on June 26, 2013 at 11:40 PM

Liberals are worthless and useless.

Liam on June 26, 2013 at 9:34 PM

Liberals are dangerous and persuasive to lamebrain masses.

And lamebrain masses are abundant.

Shy Guy on June 27, 2013 at 12:51 AM

So Harris-Perry was denied her dream of dictating gay “morality” to the whole country. What a shame to disappoint the statist!

Guess we should just let the liberal states get this out of their system and play around with pretend-marriages for a while. It won’t matter in the end, because we all know what marriage is – the supreme court doesn’t get to define it.

Even liberal states will tire of gays not getting married even though they toiled so hard for the right(although NAMBLA will planning a gay-bridge to legalize consensual child-sex, their next civil-rights issue).

Family lawyers will be happy because they now have long years of trying to sort out the consequences of legislative idiocy in these states.

virgo on June 27, 2013 at 1:14 AM

I can’t wait for the first guy to come along and sue because they wouldn’t allow him to marry his cat and use the deduction on his taxes….

dirtengineer on June 27, 2013 at 2:46 AM

I don’t understand, SCOTUS says that DOMA is unconstitutional and that states should decide for themselves whether they want Gay marriage, but then they turn around and allow Prop 8 to be overturned which was enacted by CA voters.

xdwall on June 27, 2013 at 4:33 AM

Federal Modesty.

That is absolutely the only good thing to come out of yesterdays rulings. And one other thing: Anthony Kennedy questioning the state of California and all states having a redress procedure like initiative petition but not listening to the decision of the people, in CA, like in other liberal states they only listen if the current administration/lawmakers agree too. Then, oh then, it’s the force of law and the voice of the people.

Last night on Hannity he had a woman on opposite Jay Sekulow who kept spinning that the courts had approved gay marriage as constitutional in every state. She would not accept that federalism was being used to say if they could have gay marriage, they also might NOT have gay marriage as law as a state’s right. Look for more spin today.

Our people have to get out front of this issue of state’s rights. There are about 30 Republican Governors that have to advance conservative social policies in law in the next two years, including more conservative education, and definitions in their state constitutions.

I would suggest limiting reproductive services and sex change operations to say you don’t have to pay for two same sex people with state funds to create the child nature does not create, limit payment for invitro by the state, and also restrict single women with responsibility clauses and add responsibility to sperm donors to be legal dads. I know you love marriage, but you need to add responsibilities and rewards (partial custody!) to birth fathers equal to those who are married. Forbid your state from altering the gender of any individual on their government records, or paying to alter anyone’s gender, and define gender as the chromosomal DNA gender of a person.

These actions need to happen right now if you want to live in a world with natural sex relationships forming families. If you live in a red state, I said this after the 2012 election you have to prepare on the home front in your state. You can save more than half the nation and make your states like the America of Red Rock.

Fleuries on June 27, 2013 at 9:55 AM

a relatively cerebral medium

I’m sorry, MKH, but are you talking about either television, or MSNBC more specifically? Because if I didn’t misread that, I’m going to be rolling on the floor in a minute. Cerebral? MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (breath) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

GWB on June 27, 2013 at 10:41 AM

While I am disappointed in the SCOTUS DOMA decision, the one good thing is that it throws weight behind the rights of states to define how things are done within their borders. I have to wonder if this is a trend that will be sustained in future decisions and the ramifications that would have on areas like welfare, health care, and education.

Harris-Perry is probably right about more conservative states passing stricter laws and not having to fear the Federal government will interfere. And more liberal states will open up the flood gate to other extreme practices and call them all “marriages”.

But with such divides between states, which will drawn along geographic lines, I have to wonder if we are taking one step closer to a breakup of the country.

bartbeast on June 27, 2013 at 10:57 AM

I guess MHP missed the part where SCOTUS just handed the Big Government (Fascist) types a road-map to overthrow and negate the Initiative/Referendum process that the Progressives of the Early 20th-Century bequeathed us.
Then, they wanted to break the power of Big Rail/etc, now they need to put the People back in their places.

Another Drew on June 27, 2013 at 1:21 PM

Last night on Hannity he had a woman on opposite Jay Sekulow who kept spinning that the courts had approved gay marriage as constitutional in every state. She would not accept that federalism was being used to say if they could have gay marriage, they also might NOT have gay marriage as law as a state’s right. Look for more spin today.

Right. They didn’t touch Section 2, which stops people from running to New Hampshire or wherever, getting hitched, and then 14th-Amendmenting their union back to Ohio or something.

I’m a little anxious, though, that the only reason they haven’t decided to wipe out state borders on this issue is that no one with standing has brought the case before them yet.

Maybe it’s time to take the cynic’s pool. On what grounds will SCOTUS eventually strike down DOMA entirely?
- 14th Amendment
- Commerce Clause
- Power to Tax
- Supremacy Clause
- Bacon

The Schaef on June 27, 2013 at 2:17 PM

You know we’ve learned to laugh this sort of behavior off, but when you really thing about it, anyone in this day and age willing to disgrace themselves with this tasteless, racist, and unending minstrel show of oppression and hate at msnbc solely for a paycheck has to be a first class sociopath. That you would behave in this constantly threatening manner for celebrity status. These people are beyond contempt. They’re dangerous.
Symptoms of the disease I guess. Signs of the Alinsky plague are always stomach turning. Frightening. Ignorance begets arrogance, begets apathy… Hey I think I just found the replacement for “Lean Forward”!

onomo on June 27, 2013 at 3:29 PM