Good news: Paul Ryan going to try to sell immigration reform to wary House Republicans

posted at 5:21 pm on June 26, 2013 by Allahpundit

There actually is a smidgen of good news. He’s said repeatedly over the last few days that the House won’t take up the Gang of Eight bill, something we now kinda sorta know to be true. He’s not selling Rubio’s plan, he’ll be selling something that might demand real evidence of improved border security before proceeding to legalization. Although, if a bill like that was really in the offing, Boehner and Cantor wouldn’t need someone as influential as a former VP nominee to try to push it, right?

The bad news? He also thinks that “earned citizenship” is no way, no how, no chance equivalent to amnesty and offered to debate anyone who disagrees. A bunch of people, including Heritage, accepted the challenge. As far as I know, he hasn’t responded.

With Senate passage of a sweeping immigration bill imminent, Ryan has been meeting with House conservatives to persuade them that reform of the immigration system, including a path to citizenship for illegal immigrants, is an economic necessity and critical to fixing the nation’s fiscal problems.

Ryan, a potential 2016 presidential contender, sees himself as a “bridge builder” between immigration advocacy groups and reluctant Republicans, he said in an interview with Reuters…

“I would bet you a nickel that he has had more face time with each member than anyone else in the caucus,” said [Grover] Norquist, an influential conservative who also believes immigration reform is vital to the economy.

Republican strategist Whit Ayres calls Ryan “one of the most effective messengers the Republican party has in the House,” adding that “If Paul Ryan talks, the House Republicans will listen.”…

In the interview, he cited future budget deficits as a reason for urgency on immigration reform. With 10,000 baby boomers retiring from the workforce each day, “our economy is going to need more labor in the future,” he said.

Looking forward to hearing him explain what the solution to the entitlement crunch will be when illegals complete the citizenship process and begin retiring in 30 years. (I know, I know: “We’ll have meaningful reform by then!” Sure we will.) By the way, in keeping with the tradition of Republicans partnering with only the least trustworthy Democrats on immigration reform, Ryan’s chief ally on the other side of the aisle in the House is Luis Gutierrez, the same guy who once infamously said that his only — only — loyalty is to the immigrant community. There’s a bumper sticker for the House vote, if/when it happens.

Old theory: Democrats are doggedly pursuing immigration reform because they’re eager to add lots of Democratic-leaning voters to the rolls: New theory: Democrats are doggedly pursuing immigration reform because they realize that, for mysterious reasons, an awful lot of top GOP 2016 prospects are eager to dance on landmines before the primaries. How many budding young superstars’ careers is this process going to end up threatening? Last year we were staring at a field with six or seven viable young conservative champions. Increasingly it looks like we’ll be down to Rand Paul, Bobby Jindal, and Ted Cruz if he gets in. And the more I read stuff like this, the more I think he just might.

Here’s Rubio’s speech on the Senate floor today about the backlash he’s getting from conservatives.

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The GOP had better hope they can get democrats to cross over and vote for them in the future. It is a real possibility as they act more and more like them everyday..

NOT.ONE.MORE.DIME from me

shar61 on June 26, 2013 at 11:10 PM

“Dancing on land mines”!
Great turn of phrase Allah!!

That’s why I was a regular commenter on your old Allah in the house” site

Pre-all the RINOesque HA crap

You have been great during this horrific Amnesty push by the lemmings in the GOP

TexasJew on June 26, 2013 at 11:18 PM

bluefox on June 26, 2013 at 10:50 PM

Is it not McConnell’s campaign aide a Rand Paul guy? Jesse Benton…

Also Rand waited until the right time to come out against this bill which was when it would have hurt Rubio the most politically.

All I have to say is Rand is not Ron…

William Eaton on June 26, 2013 at 11:09 PM

McConnell hired Rand Paul’s former Campaign Manager, but don’t recall his name at the moment.

I agree that Rand Paul is different than his Dad.

Now Paul Ryan is a different story! He is the one that is for this Amnesty.

bluefox on June 26, 2013 at 11:19 PM

Even Mondale carried Minnesota in ’84. – the only state he carried

This schmuck Ryan couldn’t even carry a far redder state like Wisconsin

TexasJew on June 26, 2013 at 11:23 PM

Here is the amount of aid we have given to Pakistan (in billions):

Military:

2002 1.36
2003 1.500
2004 1.200
2005 1.313 .
2006 1.260
2007 1.115
2008 1.435
2009 1.689
2010 1.232
2011 1.685

Total 11.740 billion

Economic ($)

2002 1.233 for 2002 to 2004
2003 1.233 for 2002 to 2004
2004 1.233 for 2002 to 2004
2005 .338
2006 .539
2007 .567
2008 .507
2009 1.366
2010 1.409
2011 unknown (Obama money)
Total 6.08 billion

I know the argument from the Neo-Cons and bleeding hearts is it is “chump change”, 6 billion here, 11 billion there….BTW a single fence across the entire border would be about 22-30 billion based on one estimate I have seen, so a double one would be lets say 60-70 billion, lets just make a cool 200 billion to build the double fence of our dreams (remember this is a government run operation).

The defense dept. direct cost for the war in Iraq was about 700 billion, the total cost we have blown in Iraq is in trillions (one est. has it at 6 trillion). Plus think of this as reinvesting in America, just that this time we really would be. The people hired to build the wall would be Americans, no different than money we spent building the transcontinental railroad, or highway system. We all know the government is going to blow the money anyway, might as well be on something useful.

We have got to start spending money at home…here in America.

This would be a good campaign slogan, and it would be harder to say we are racist. This is about security! Is that not what McCain and Graham are always screeching about…

Conservatives have to start thinking outside the box on all this.

William Eaton on June 26, 2013 at 11:28 PM

I have already written off Corker and Alexander (BTW we are desperate in TN for someone to primary these two) Voluble on June 26, 2013 at 6:59 PM

We outside of TN join your desperation:-) Hopefully, this Amnesty issue will produce a Candidate. Corker & Alexander still need to hear from TN. I’ve called each of them a couple of times and I don’t live in TN. I don’t want any of them to think that only TN voters are upset with them, we all are:-)

I think we should all call not only our own State U.S. Congresspersons, but as many others if possible. We always have better results with our own.

I always vote. Sometimes there isn’t anything to vote For, but there is always something to vote against:-)

bluefox on June 26, 2013 at 11:37 PM

These bad chiefs of the paid for two party evil money cult are about building a coast to coast reservation for all of U.S..

Wise up before they have you in line for old dirty blankets and rotten goverment cheese for your EPA approved huts.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 26, 2013 at 11:38 PM

Since none of these requirements are in the “Immigration Reform” bill, Rep. Paul Ryan’s justification is just political double-speaking hooey.

wren on June 26, 2013 at 7:08 PM

Well, we know that no matter what is in any House bill that Ryan and others come up with, it’s still a Trojan Horse. We don’t want any related Immigration bill coming to the floor for a vote. All the dems will vote for it and then we’ll have enought R’s that will join them and shazaam! off to Conference we will go and then
we’ll have the Senate passed Amnesty bill.

That’s the plan!

I’m sure you know the Senate Amnesty vote is tomorrow.

bluefox on June 26, 2013 at 11:46 PM

I’m losing my faith in Paul Ryan. This morning, he said the House would not take up the Senate immigration bill. Later this afternoon, I heard that the House would put forth a 5-year temporary immigration bill.

Wew all know what happens when “temporary” bills are passed – they automatically become permanent.

Bottom line: Fence and border security first, by itself. ONCE in place, THEN, consider anything else. But the socialist/Dems/leftists/progressives do not want a fence.

Thus, the Republicans have a safe response, “No fence, no immigration bills. Period!”

MN J on June 26, 2013 at 11:49 PM

Terrye on June 26, 2013 at 11:10 PM

What Paul Ryan is trying to do is get the Senate Bill voted on in the House and passed. Understand how that works?

bluefox on June 26, 2013 at 11:50 PM

If no one successfully primaries against Grahamnesty, I’ll write in Snoopy on the ballot. He’s got more brains.

Conservchik on June 26, 2013 at 10:03 PM

Richard Cash has already announced he will be running against Senator Lindsey Graham in the 2014 South Carolina Republican Primary.

You can learn more about Richard Cash at his campaign website:
http://www.richardcashforsenate.com/

If you like what you see on his website, roll up your sleeves and get to work to help Richard Cash win the Primary election against Lindsey Graham.

At a minimum, everybody could easily show their gratitude for Richard Cash stepping up to the plate to run against Lindsey Graham by signing up to follow his campaign on Twitter or liking him on Facebook.

wren on June 26, 2013 at 11:51 PM

I’m sure you know the Senate Amnesty vote is tomorrow.

bluefox on June 26, 2013 at 11:46 PM

Alas, yes. And I am sure my California Democrat Senators Boxer and Feinstein will vote for Amnesty, in spite of my calls. Sigh!

Onward, to the battle in the House of Representatives!

wren on June 26, 2013 at 11:57 PM

How stupid are these guys? Will they sell us all out for what may be no more than a handful of votes just to stay in good graces with big business contributors who only want a cheap labor force at our expense?

celt on June 26, 2013 at 7:18 PM

Very stupid. Your second question, yes. If Congress voted for bills that were in the best interest of our Country, we would not be in the state of disaster we are.

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 12:02 AM

Ugh: Paul Ryan Struggles to Explain Why Border Security Must Be Tied to Amnesty (Video)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/06/paul-ryan-struggles-to-explain-why-border-security-must-be-tied-to-amnesty-video/

idesign on June 26, 2013 at 10:33 PM

Rep. Paul Ryan’s explanation was pathetic!

And I say that as a former supporter of Paul Ryan.

wren on June 27, 2013 at 12:10 AM

Alas, yes. And I am sure my California Democrat Senators Boxer and Feinstein will vote for Amnesty, in spite of my calls. Sigh!

Onward, to the battle in the House of Representatives!

wren on June 26, 2013 at 11:57 PM

I know. We’ve done all we can do with the Senate; it’s on their corrupt heads:-)

Yes, on to the House. I called everyone of my U.S. Reps about 2 weeks ago (I think it was 2 weeks) because I knew this is where we would be headed and wanted them to have a heads up, LOL Well, actually the list was just on the table from the Gun Control issue, LOL I have so many lists!!

Yesterday I called my State Rep and even tho the SCOTUS ruling just came down, suggested he get with the other State Reps/Senators and Gov and pass Voter ID.

Have a good evening. I may check the threads & then turn in early.

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 12:13 AM

idesign on June 26, 2013 at 10:33 PM

Rep. Paul Ryan’s explanation was pathetic!

And I say that as a former supporter of Paul Ryan.

wren on June 27, 2013 at 12:10 AM

Well, now idesign you know I’ll have to read that:-)

wren, that doesn’t sound good.

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 12:23 AM

Ugh: Paul Ryan Struggles to Explain Why Border Security Must Be Tied to Amnesty (Video)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/06/paul-ryan-struggles-to-explain-why-border-security-must-be-tied-to-amnesty-video/

idesign on June 26, 2013 at 10:33 PM

Rep. Paul Ryan’s explanation was pathetic!

And I say that as a former supporter of Paul Ryan.

wren on June 27, 2013 at 12:10 AM

Evidently Ryan doesn’t want to secure the border because the Illegals won’t be able to come in!!

Maybe that’s the plan!!!

I think he got his talking points mixed up, LOL

Good grief!!

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 12:40 AM

“I would bet you a nickel that he has had more face time with each member than anyone else in the caucus,” said [Grover] Norquist, an influential conservative who also believes immigration reform is vital to the economy.fast buck artist who would sell this country out in a New York minute.

bw222 on June 27, 2013 at 12:52 AM

I used to think Ryan was pretty sharp, but not feeling the warm and fuzzies with him these days. Not sure why he’s bought into the theory that allowing millions of poorly educated, low-skilled workers (assuming they actually work) to become citizens will spur the economy. I’ve said this before, it that logic is true, we should be asking the Chinese to let us borrow a few hundred million of their “extras” so we can get our GDP in the 50%-60% range. I’m sure India would give us 100-200 million poorly educated, low-skilled workers if we asked.

I think Paul Ryan should get on this ASAP.

ScottiesRule on June 27, 2013 at 12:52 AM

This was Rubio’s “you better put some ice on that” speech to conservatives.
(cf Bill Clinton to Paula Jones)

virgo on June 27, 2013 at 12:59 AM

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 12:13 AM

You are a true Patriot, bluefox!

So many issues, so little time! Now, if we could just elect a smarter class of politician, perhaps some with actual factual common sense, it would save us all a lot of time.

I am going to turn in early tonight too. It has been a very long day.

wren on June 27, 2013 at 1:00 AM

Ugh: Paul Ryan Struggles to Explain Why Border Security Must Be Tied to Amnesty (Video)

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/06/paul-ryan-struggles-to-explain-why-border-security-must-be-tied-to-amnesty-video/

idesign on June 26, 2013 at 10:33 PM

Ryan is a traitor and an idiot. He says that the border can’t be sealed in order for people to be able to legally come into the country … huh??! hannity let that idiocy slide.

Ryan is a lowlife scumbag. And a moron. A lowlife, scumbag moron. He should go straight to friggin hell, where he belongs.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 27, 2013 at 1:15 AM

Paul Ryan showed how worthless he was when he couldn’t handle Joey Plugs in the VP debate. My Mother’s phrase to describe him would be a milktoast milksop boy!

There is no shame in voting third party in 2016 if Ryan, Rubio or Christie are on the ticket!

Rockshine on June 27, 2013 at 1:48 AM

Paul Ryan…
Dead Man Walking…
Make way for the Dead Man Walking….
You are a LYING ch1k1n$h1t pol who makes a challenge for a debate on your AMNESTY and then runs away with your tail between your legs.
My most sincere wish is that you eat $h1t and DIE.
III

dirtengineer on June 27, 2013 at 2:34 AM

Rubio is dead to me. I could never vote for him. He is done. This is why we cannot win anymore; too many conservatives become RINOs once they are in Washington.

I am so glad that my Senator is Ted Cruz.

Theophile on June 27, 2013 at 5:00 AM

Stopped listening to Rubio at 2:03 in the video. IF you want trust, stop lying.

There is no border security in the bill or the amendment. It’s all down to whatever Incompetano wants to do.

It’s just Amnesty and the importation of thousands more Guest Workers. while we’re in a jobs depression.

dogsoldier on June 27, 2013 at 6:03 AM

The repubs cannot win over the audience they are courting as they desert their base.

Which is us.

They are Lotsa Losers Lollapalooza on Parade.

It might be a good time to pull a Rip van Winkle.

But it’s gonna get worse, I fear.

Sherman1864 on June 27, 2013 at 7:05 AM

10+ Million Illegals aren’t going anywhere, & even if passed the CBO stated it would cut back only approx 25% of the Illegals that will still come in over the next decade. THAT means THIS piece of legislation / this issue could have WAITED!

Rubio, Ryan, McCain, & every other Republican should have / should put EVERY issue on the proverbial back-burner until the REAL threat to Americans is addressed! That threat, of course, is the out-of-control government & Administration that sacrificed/abandoned/betrayed Americans in Benghazi and then engaged in a wholesale (yet inept) cover-up of Benghazi. That threat is an administration that has targeted Americans by unleashing not only the IRS but also – according to Congressional hearing testimony – the FBI, ATF, EPA, & DHS. That threat is an administration that has violated the Constitution & admittedly broken laws to spy on media reporters, editors, & THEIR PARENTS! That threat is a tyrannical, intrusive government that is engaged in data-mining, collecting EVERY e-mail, text message, phone call, blog post, Facebook post, picture uploaded, video uploaded, and every ATM and Crdit Card transaction of EVERY American citizen EVERY day, admittedly BREAING THE LAW (Head of the NSA) to do so if need be!

Addressing this – the greatest threat to our freedom, the Constitution, & our rights – in our lifetime is too difficult of an issue for our politicians, primarily because of all of their ‘good-ol’boy, Washington-Insider’ agreements & established protocols that supercede what is le=gal and in the best interest of the government!

Let’s be honest, Rubio/Ryan/Boehner/et al, Richard Nixon did not perpetrate the crime of wire tapping during Watergate; however, he was forced from office simply because he became aware of it & engaged in helping cover it up. THAT’S IT! ‘Fast & Furious’ – Holder perpetrated 3 counts of Perjury, the DOJ refused to press charges against their boss, yet Holder was still Censured for his crimes by Congress, making him the 1st Atty General in U.S. History to be Censured. It was a massive cover-up….Obama didn’t do the CRIME, but he did/does know – that was enough for Nixon to be forced out.

Benghazi was a complete disaster, is still a cover-up, Obama DID know about it, he DID engage in the lies & cver-up, he is STILL doing it – that was enough for Nixon to be forced out.

The IRS began targeting Americans – Obama’s ‘enemies’ as early as 2010, his entire White House Staff knew about it, he was visited by Shulman 118 times, Shulman & Miller perpetrated PERJURY before Congress, and on and on….the same practices of targeting Americans, as pointed out this morning by the new head of the IRS, were still going on A MONTH AGO when this new guy took over. Obama may not be linked directly, may not have ordered it done, but his campaign manager attended IRS meetings that discussed the scandal & was given Romneys personal tx info which was used against Romney during the election campaign. Harry Reid got his hands on Romney’s tax info as well and used it to attack Romney on the floor of the Senate during the election! Obama may not have directly ordered the targeting by the IRS (as well as by the ATF, FBI, EPA, & DHS), but he KNEW ABOUT IT — that was enough for Nixon to be forced out.

Now we have found out this government is seizing ALL of our information & breaking the law to collect some of it when they deem they have a need to! Obama may not have ordered it, but he has KNOWN about the abuse of the Patriot Act — that was enough for Nixon to be forced out.

Truth be told, Obama should have already had Impeachment proceedings started against him FOUR TIMES! Our GOP simply don’t have the testicular fortitude to take any action. They are big into political theater, but no one who has perpetrated Felonies/Perjury befre Congress has been punished, the Constitutional / Law violations by this President & his Cabinet members go unpunished, and the WAR ON AMERICANS continues while we have no ‘chamions’ to come to our defense!

easyt65 on June 27, 2013 at 7:49 AM

NOT.ONE.MORE.DIME from me

shar61 on June 26, 2013 at 11:10 PM

This.

And this, from Day By Day.

Chris of Rights on June 27, 2013 at 8:17 AM

“Good news: Paul Ryan going to try to sell immigration reform “The Illegal Mexican Relief and American Destruction Act of 2013″ to wary House Republicans.

Fixed it for you.

clippermiami on June 27, 2013 at 8:52 AM

dogsoldier on June 27, 2013 at 6:03 AM

Just wanted to thank you for the hard work you’ve been doing by posting many of the Amnesty Senate bill sections.

It appears that once again, the Senate is ready to vote and betray our Country.

Ryan has been working on this Amnesty bill he plans to introduce in the House for quite some time. And some of the people he’s been working with shows he’s went to the dark side and joined Rubio.

Our only hope is everyone at least call/fax/email their own U.S. Congresspersons. We must defeat this bill that Ryan & others, Boehner especially are wanting to pass in the House. It’s a Trojan Horse, make no mistake about that.

Best site for info and each State’s Senators & House Reps are all on one page. Simply click on your State.

http://www.congressmerge.com/

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 8:56 AM

Why is it that anyone ever assumed that Ryan was a conservative?

Even in his only real expertise, the field of economics, he has exhibited himself in that regard poorly … e.g. TARP, GM bailout.

Beyond economics what expertise does Ryan have? I sure don’t see it.

And Rubio? A silver-tongued shining star for his 15 minutes of fame. Until his actions dulled the shine.

Perhaps we need to look at the likes of Ted Cruz a little harder. Another tongue of silver? Perhaps. We don’t know much really; certainly not for very long we haven’t.

At a minimum, at least we know from whence Rand Paul came. My ‘dream’ candidate? Perhaps not. I do know that I trust that his actions will match his words more that any of the rest.

And the Constitution might actually be referenced on occasion.

Carnac on June 27, 2013 at 9:01 AM

Ryan is a traitor and an idiot. He says that the border can’t be sealed in order for people to be able to legally come into the country …ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 27, 2013 at 1:15 AM

I didn’t watch that, since Hannity gets on my nerves supporting the RINOS.

Ryan saying what you posted makes no sense unless he’s planning on passing out green cards at the Mexican side of the border before anyone crosses into the U.S.

This is what idiots sound like when they lie and deceive.

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 9:05 AM

Perhaps we need to look at the likes of Ted Cruz a little harder. Another tongue of silver? Perhaps. We don’t know much really; certainly not for very long we haveCarnac on June 27, 2013 at 9:01 AM

So far Senator Ted Cruz has done all he said he would do during his campaign and more. If you aren’t familiar with his outstanding record, you can view it here.

http://hotair.com/archives/2013/01/04/quotes-of-the-day-1249/comment-page-2/#comments

bluefox on January 4, 2013 at 10:37 PM

Patriots such as Ted Cruz need our support and prayers as they stand for our Country.

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 9:19 AM

Never before has there been a stronger case for term limitation in Congress than what is happening with immigration reform right now!

We need to clean both the House and the Senate of these idiot politicians who have totally lost touch with the very people who placed them in office and who instead bend their knee to the whims of special interest groups that are destroying this country!

Just as for the President, two terms in office should be the absolute limit for both the House and the Senate!

Maybe then things will start to change in this country for the better!

It is time to end the reign of the career politicians!

pilamaye on June 27, 2013 at 9:24 AM

Just as for the President, two terms in office should be the absolute limit for both the House and the Senate!

Maybe then things will start to change in this country for the better!

It is time to end the reign of the career politicians!

pilamaye on June 27, 2013 at 9:24 AM

The American people are without representation by our Government.

We the people know what is needed, but our only power is at the ballot box. Congress is not going to police themselves & until we vote in enough worthy Candidates, I don’t see any other solution, yet.

I hear you tho on the situation.

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 9:37 AM

The headlines all savage our own. They are walking thru the sausage making factory, and the media tells you exactly what they need to to alienate you so you won’t work for them to get a Veto Proof Majority of republicans in the Senate in 2014.

When I see the ads on television I agree with most of the conservative ideas they present. I know they are a trick of some sort, but those are the same ideas that our people are endorsing. We don’t see these ideas reflected in media reports on the bill. Just this morning, I read an article which began: The senate is about to pass a bill giving historic citizenship to illegals. Now I know that is not true, it is giving provisional green cards. Which do we believe?

Fight this bill and say we don’t trust the administration to use good discretion to implement it. But don’t savage our republican House and Senate, you need them to get a veto proof Majority in 2014. The Media know just how to play you like a violin, don’t react. Somehow we have to get our feelings heard in Washington, they are not getting the same information there as we see out here on the ground.

Fleuries on June 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM

YOU CANT SELL ME A BAG OF SHIT RYAN.

Stick it up yer ^#! !!

TX-96 on June 26, 2013 at 5:37 PM

And believe it or not, I know when somebody is peeing down my back. Congrescritters, it ain’t raining!

yesiamapirate on June 27, 2013 at 9:41 AM

It doesn’t need to be “comprehensive”!
Just do one thing: Secure the Border!!!
Then move on.

Dexter_Alarius on June 27, 2013 at 9:44 AM

Rubio sounds sincere.

He’s a VERY good actor.

portlandon on June 26, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Sincerely stupid is still stupid!

yesiamapirate on June 27, 2013 at 9:49 AM

I don’t know if this has been posted or not,

On Thursday, the Senate is set to pass the “Gang of 8″ amnesty legislation. There will be three votes today to pass the legislation.

Details here: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/27/Senate-Set-For-Historic-Immigration-Vote-Thursday

C-span 2 on TV, haven’t checked online.
McConnell now talking about Senate rules and what Reid promised back in January. Hmmm, interesting.

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 9:47 AM

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 10:01 AM

We are all Union Made now.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 27, 2013 at 10:03 AM

The msm and the commie Democrats and the RINO’s fear and hate Ted Cruz.

We have to have his back, they will go after him in any way possible now.

We need 60 like him in the U.S. Senate, stat.

APACHEWHOKNOWS on June 27, 2013 at 10:05 AM

Call your Senators to vote NO on any cloture in order to shut this down!!! Cloture is to shut down debate and proceed to a vote on the bill. So we want the Senators to vote NO!

http://www.congressmerge.com/

Click on your State!

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 10:09 AM

The House will write its own bill, but it will have to go to conference..truthfully I do not think hardliners want to change anything. They like things the way they are. And that is kind of pathetic. Paul Ryan however is a decent and hard working man who actually believes he has a responsibility to try and deal with the problems facing the country. How dare he?

Terrye on June 26, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Yeah, right.

yesiamapirate on June 27, 2013 at 10:37 AM

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 8:56 AM

You’re very welcome.

I’m trying to get people interested enough to look at the documents and see for themselves what’s in them, because the folks we elected to represent us are all lying, or stupid.

In any case anyone voting for this monstrosity has no business in the congress of the United States.

This bill is guaranteed to wreck our economy.

dogsoldier on June 27, 2013 at 10:58 AM

Paul Ryan however is a decent and hard working man who actually believes he has a responsibility to try and deal with the problems facing the country. How dare he?

Terrye on June 26, 2013 at 11:10 PM

Then he should quit and become a Boy Scout leader or run his local Rotary or soup kitchen. His “decency” is a completely nugatory point in our contemporary political culture — even a liability.

A savage war has been declared on us. We need warriors — streetfighters, men who know their way with the business end of knives.

rrpjr on June 27, 2013 at 11:14 AM

I’m trying to get people interested enough to look at the documents and see for themselves what’s in them, because the folks we elected to represent us are all lying, or stupid.

In any case anyone voting for this monstrosity has no business in the congress of the United States.

This bill is guaranteed to wreck our economy.

dogsoldier on June 27, 2013 at 10:58 AM

Yes, the bill vs what the pro-Amnesty Senators are saying shows clearly they are lying. Total corruption. What was it again that they brought ethic charges against Newt for? I guess it’s not unethical to lie and give testimony by doing so you’ve violated your Oath of Office.

This bill destroys our Country, plain and simple.

I called my Senators earlier this morning to vote No on any cloture.

This is the agenda for today:

The Senate will convene at 9:30am to continue debate on the amnesty bill. At around 11:30am, the Senate will go “off” the bill to vote to confirm Anthony Foxx as the next Transportation Secretary. After that vote, the Senate will vote to formally adopt the Schumer-Corker-Hoeven amendment as the Committee substitute to the Gang of 8 bill. This vote requires a simple majority.

The Senate will then immediately move to vote to shut off debate on the Gang bill. There will be no further votes on amendments to the bill.

P.S. S. Cornyn is taking up 15 min. of the 21 min. left. Guess that’s so only RINOS can speak. Grrrrr.

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 11:16 AM

Paul Ryan however is a decent and hard working man who actually believes he has a responsibility to try and deal with the problems facing the country. How dare he?

Terrye on June 26, 2013 at 11:10 PM

You evidently as usual don’t read very well or aren’t up to speed.
No, Virginia, Paul Ryan is not a decent person nor are any others trying to destroy this Country. Get a clue!

bluefox on June 27, 2013 at 11:42 AM

Nice knowing you Paul. I guess you and Rubio can sit around and play checkers after your first terms.

F_This on June 27, 2013 at 12:02 PM

Alas, yes. And I am sure my California Democrat Senators Boxer and Feinstein will vote for Amnesty, in spite of my calls. Sigh!

Onward, to the battle in the House of Representatives!

If you contacted them with your concern over this bill, they would be delighted to respond in a kind way, letting you know how naive and misguided you are, lacking the understanding of the fairness and justice of this bill. And they will certainly be sure to turn over your name and contact information to the FBI, IRS and NSA.

A hateful anti-immigration bigot such as you must be monitored.

/S

hawkeye54 on June 27, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Every other piece of damning socialist legislation, can, albeit with extreme difficulty, be overcome– but Amnesty is an unrecoverable cancer. The reason is that Amnesty means: 1 A permanent one-Party (Democratic) country. 2. A nation permanently divided by two languages and two cultures. 3 Divided loyalty on the part of millions of new citizens–many of them owing allegiance to the mother country (Mexico). 4 The tens of millions being legalized will bring in tens of millions more until the old culture is eventually overwhelmed by the new.

And this is what absolute traitors like Ryan, Rubio, Flake, Graham etal are wishing upon our country. Vote them all out of office!!!!!!

MaiDee on June 27, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Et tu, Ryan? What a disappointment.

Aodhan on June 27, 2013 at 1:09 PM

If you contacted them with your concern over this bill, they would be delighted to respond in a kind way, letting you know how naive and misguided you are, lacking the understanding of the fairness and justice of this bill. And they will certainly be sure to turn over your name and contact information to the FBI, IRS and NSA.

A hateful anti-immigration bigot such as you must be monitored.

/S

hawkeye54 on June 27, 2013 at 12:10 PM

Oh I am sure that I have been on the “needs monitoring” list for years, since I cause more than my fair share of subversive conservative trouble in my liberal area.

I trust that you are providing reasons to scare Big Brother into keeping an eye on you too, Hawkeye54. :-)

Signed,
Needs Monitoring and Proud of It!

wren on June 27, 2013 at 2:41 PM

Signed,
Needs Monitoring and Proud of It!

wren on June 27, 2013 at 2:41 PM

They must be very busy…

dogsoldier on June 27, 2013 at 3:11 PM

We’re really weeding out the dumbasses with this bill

TexasJew on June 26, 2013 at 5:37 PM

Exactly. I can still only come up with one reason these pols want to flush this country down the drain: simply to get reelected. Short-term -thinking greedy pigs.

Someone’s keeping a list. Right?

Tsar of Earth on June 27, 2013 at 3:19 PM

I don’t know what masters Ryan serves, certainly not his constituents nor conservatives. A promising allegedly Conservative reformer is a terrible thing to waste.

Afterseven on June 29, 2013 at 2:50 PM

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