Putin to Obama: Yes, Snowden’s at the Moscow airport, and no, you can’t have him back

posted at 12:41 pm on June 25, 2013 by Allahpundit

I’m really enjoying this fascist former KGB agent now pretending he’s a stickler for the rule of law.

But not as much as he’s enjoying it, I bet.

Snowden is in the transit zone of a Moscow airport and has not passed through Russian immigration, Putin said, meaning he is not technically in Russia…

“Our special services never worked with Mr. Snowden and aren’t working with him today,” Putin said at a news conference during a visit to Finland.

Putin said that because there is no extradition agreement with the U.S., it couldn’t meet the U.S. request.

“Mr. Snowden is a free man, and the sooner he chooses his final destination the better it is for us and for him,” Putin said. “I hope it will not affect the business-like character of our relations with the U.S. and I hope that our partners will understand that.”

Elsewhere in the same piece, the foreign minister of Ecuador, a country that just last week imposed new restrictions on an already heavily restricted media, praised Snowden for trying to “bring light and transparency to facts that affect everyone’s fundamental liberties.” Wittingly or not, Snowden’s ended up as propaganda gold mine for authoritarians.

I’m with Ace on this one: How is it in Obama’s interest at this point to have Snowden back? He’s famously allergic to capturing and prosecuting prominent enemies of the state because of the legal and political headaches involved. That explains 80 percent of his drone policy towards jihadis. If Russia hands him over, then O has to deal with protests here from Snowden fans and chilly White House coverage from sections of the press that are sympathetic to him. Capturing him now probably won’t stop the leaks, either. Glenn Greenwald was crowing again this morning that “the majority of revelations that are significant have yet to be made,” which I take it means the Guardian already knows all about what Snowden has. Seems strange for a newspaper to sit on national-security bombshells, unless they’re holding them back as leverage to warn the U.S. away from apprehending Snowden. If the feds grab him, maybe that’s the Guardian’s cue to start publishing stuff. In which case, if you’re O, leaving Snowden alone in Ecuador might be the lesser of two bad outcomes. Sure, it’d be a blow to U.S. credibility, but what’s left of U.S. credibility at this point? John Kerry’s already backing off some of yesterday’s tough talk towards Moscow. No one thinks the White House can or will do much apart from freezing extradition of prisoners to Russia, none of whom will be as valuable to them as Snowden is to the U.S. government. As seems so often true, we have few good foreign-policy cards to play.

Here’s Obama pal Tom Coburn reflecting on the fruits of “failed foreign policy.”

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Update: How would it benefit the U.S. to have Obama speak up himself to demand Snowden’s return, only to see Russia and China respond with middle fingers? We’ve lost enough prestige abroad. It’s nutty to demand that O forfeit a little more.

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Not until they get the full contents of his laptops, just as the Chinese did before they sent his on his way. What a dork!

michaelo on June 25, 2013 at 2:12 PM

America is no longer the shining city on the hill, a beacon of freedom and liberty, we are a corrupt, fascist nation, the most powerful in the history of planet Earth. We have not engaged in genocide yet, but as with all fascist regimes it is only a matter of time before the elites start getting rid of their problems the old fashioned way. Already the IRS/NSA/Obamacare gestapo has systematically violated our civil rights to affect the outcome of the ’12 election and it is only going to escalate over time unless free Americans rise up and change the road we’re on.

It’s time to put partisan politics aside, realize that the elites of both parties are responsible, and turn them all out.

FloatingRock on June 25, 2013 at 2:13 PM

Marcus Traianus on June 25, 2013 at 2:06 PM


DarkCurrent on June 25, 2013 at 2:18 PM

Obama, Putin Agree Never to Speak to Each Other Again

Resist We Much on June 25, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Be careful, you’re close to surpassing AllahP in snarkability.

BobMbx on June 25, 2013 at 2:24 PM

Pursuant to the conversation upthread regarding Obama’s sudden pivot to ‘the war on coal’….

I’d like to point out that even as he tries to regulate our coal fired energy plants out of business… he does NOTHING about mining and selling RECORD AMOUNTS OF COAL TO CHINA… who burns more coal than any other nation on the planet. Second to CHINA in using coal, is INDIA.

The Earth’s atmosphere isn’t static. That is to say, the air above China eventually ends up spead on the global wind currents around the rest of the globe. The pollution that China produces eventually ends up EVERYWHERE else.

How is it, then, that shutting down our coal plants is going to save the Earth’s atmosphere WHEN WE ARE SUPPLYING THE COAL THAT CHINA AND INDIA and others ARE BURNING?

Does it matter if we burn it, or if they burn it, in terms of the global atmosphere?

I’d love to know how many of those ‘environmentalist’s’ who back Obama’s ‘Climate Change’ agenda are heavily invested in mining, timber, farming, tech companies ( who produce a great deal of unfreindly environmental waste…like the ground water contamination from the micro-chip industry) energy production companies, and the various other companies they’ve castigated as environmentally unfriendly ( let’s face it… too numerous to mention here)both in this nation and abroad, while they fly around the globe on jets, and get driven about in limousines or drive their status sports and luxury vehicles, and redecorate their several sprawling homes at will simply because they’re bored with the furnishings.

Hypocrisy runs to the heart of the nucleas of every cell in the body of this administration AND their environmental ‘green movement’ progressives.

thatsafactjack on June 25, 2013 at 2:33 PM

Not until they get the full contents of his laptops, just as the Chinese did before they sent his on his way. What a dork!

michaelo on June 25, 2013 at 2:12 PM

If they are full of dirt the NSA harvested on US Citizens, that won’t be good. The NSA had no business collecting that stuff in the first place.

They obviously weren’t too interested in stopping terrorists.

Yeah I read the transcript of the BS claims they stopped fifty attacks. It’s a lie to cover the wrongful spying on US citizens.

dogsoldier on June 25, 2013 at 2:34 PM

Oh and has Zero stoppred the PRISM program?

dogsoldier on June 25, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Awwwww, you mean being Putin’s little bee-yotch didn’t earn him any favors? All the concessions, starting with reneging on our missile defense commitments to Poland and other allies didn’t help?

Being a sissy in the world didn’t “RESET” any relationships? How’s all those “sanctions” and “dialogue” doing with Iran, Mr. President Wimpy McStompypants?

Obama is worthless and weak. His spineless foreign policy means our friends no longer respect us and our enemies no longer fear us. Every day he occupies the Oval Office, America is damaged further.

Adjoran on June 25, 2013 at 2:35 PM

thatsafactjack on June 25, 2013 at 2:33 PM

There’s a thread for that

DarkCurrent on June 25, 2013 at 2:37 PM

“We are 5 days from fundamentally transforming the United States of America”

– Barack Obama Oct 30, 2008

Sacramento on June 25, 2013 at 2:44 PM

Our ‘Ken doll’ emperor doesn’t need clothes.

M240H on June 25, 2013 at 2:45 PM

He noted that in the past two years, the U.S. transferred seven people to Russia at Moscow’s request. Kerry said the U.S. did so “without any clamor, without any rancor, without any arguments.”


faraway on June 25, 2013 at 1:06 PM

What else is new. We (and the British) handed over thousands of Russians that fought on the Axis side to Uncle Joe “without any clamor, without any rancor, without any arguments” and for the vast majority that was their death sentence.

We’ve been bowing down to these ba$tards since, I don’t know, the 1930s?

Dr. ZhivBlago on June 25, 2013 at 2:53 PM


“My position is we don’t have any business in Syria period and I’m uninterested in fighting/funding the 21st century’s Spanish Civil War.”


About the pic and (related?) video, I’ll take your word for it. I don’t have the stomach to watch those vids.

wyntre9 on June 25, 2013 at 2:58 PM

A couple thoughts about those laptops. If the Chinese had access first, it seems logical for them to have removed any information detrimental to the Chinese if it was made available to the Russians and any information about the Russians that the Chinese could use in their favor as long as the Russians did not know the Chinese had that information.

The bottom line is – How many copies of the original files are available and to whom before the potential editing by anyone other than Snowden?

News2Use on June 25, 2013 at 3:19 PM

“Our special services never worked with Mr. Snowden and aren’t working with him today,” Putin said

But zey vill be verking vith him tomorrow, and Mee-stair Snowden vill tell zem everything he knows!!!

Prepare zee vater-board!

Steve Z on June 25, 2013 at 3:23 PM

The enemy of my enemy is my friend —as long as he doesn’t take his shirt off.

claudius on June 25, 2013 at 3:36 PM

But but but… Flexibility! Reset Buttons! Climate Change!

blammm on June 25, 2013 at 3:55 PM

Except down South. Had a young lady tell me once, in Birmingham, if I recall, “When y’all said you was impotent, I thought y’all meant like a VIP.

coldwarrior on June 25, 2013 at 1:02 PM

Avariation I heard. When asked why he was wearing black tie at noon, he replied, if you gonna be impotent ya gotta dress impotent..

katy the mean old lady on June 25, 2013 at 4:03 PM

Oforfeit – I like it Allah.

It’s what he does best.

plutorocks on June 25, 2013 at 4:24 PM

Russia proves yet again that it, like China, is our enemy.

unclesmrgol on June 25, 2013 at 4:58 PM

Seems strange for a newspaper to sit on national-security bombshells, unless they’re holding them back as leverage to warn the U.S. away from apprehending Snowden.

….and how long do you think the American public will remember that statement or potential outcome?

IMHO what we’ve seen is what they’ve got. If there were any more I believe we would have seeen it before now. Rather than admit the quiver is empty Greenwald (already a demonstrated Lefty turncoat who thrills at the potential to embarrass his county)) is trying to keep that pot of stone soup bubbling.

Will I be surprised if more, and substantial, revelations come out? Absolutely, I just don’t think he has anything of substance left to reveal other than changing “the” to “that” and “happy” to “glad”.

Of course I also think that the government has Aliens at Area 51!!! (no, not really, please don’t flame me!!)

E9RET on June 25, 2013 at 5:33 PM

Did you have Jay Carney eruditely perorate about the minutiae of international treaties when it comes to the extradition of Snowden yet he hems and haws like some goat roper when covering up the plethora of Obama scandals.One moment he’s a Wall Street lawyer, the next, he’s Gomer Pyle-“Golllleeeee I don’t know nuthin’ ’bout no scandals”

I think we should make a deal with Putin. You Give Us Snowden. You get Obama and his entire cabinet.

MaiDee on June 25, 2013 at 5:58 PM

So the question becomes, what is Obama willing to give Putin to get Snowden back.

And of course, Obama is willing to hand over the whole store if necessary, anything so his pride is not dashed. It’s clear that Snowden cares more about America’s security than Obama.

For that matter, Putin probably cares more about America’s security than Obama.

Axion on June 26, 2013 at 12:51 AM

laugh, clown, laugh! Moron obama doesn’t want the guy back anyway. It will just cause more problems for him because he will have to make a decision. What a disgrace. Thanks, moron liberals, thanks idiot repubics that didn’t vote, thanks to elderly blacks that did vote…… we got what we deserve.

ultracon on June 26, 2013 at 12:11 PM