Hatch: I’ll vote yes on immigration reform

posted at 9:21 am on June 25, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

This may count as a mild surprise, at least in Utah.  Orrin Hatch opposed the original 1986 amnesty bill, which passed over his objections, and the 2007 immigration-reform effort that sank into failure.  Hatch has decided to support the current effort, he explains in a column for the Salt Lake Tribune, because this bill addresses the border-security problems the other two bills ignored, even if not exactly how he would have done it himself:

Is this legislation perfect or what I would have drafted? Absolutely not. But as it stands now, the Senate immigration bill makes sure that these 11 million people are paying into society, and fixes many of the pressing issues associated with our broken immigration system.

That’s why I will vote for it this week.

This legislation significantly strengthens border security. An amendment by my colleagues Sens. John Hoeven, R-N.D., and Bob Corker, R-Tenn., means that an additional 20,000 Border Patrol agents will be stationed along the southern border, more than doubling the current force.

It also requires that an additional 700 miles of fencing be built and that E-verify — an Internet-based system that ensures that employers hire only legal workers — be used by all businesses in the country, making it virtually impossible to work in the United States illegally.

Hatch rejects the claim that this bill is an amnesty package:

Some have said this bill grants amnesty, but that’s just not true. We have de facto amnesty right now, and this bill fixes that. The fact is that in order to be put on a pathway to citizenship, immigrants currently here illegally would be required to pay a fine, pass criminal and national security background checks and pay taxes.

Only after at least 10 years have passed and all five of these so-called “triggers” have been fully implemented can an illegal immigrant even apply for a green card. That’s hardly amnesty.

The Tribune notes that the junior Senator from Utah, Mike Lee, still opposes the bill:

His Utah GOP colleague, Sen. Mike Lee, hasn’t called it amnesty, either, but he says the legislation is still too easy on lawbreakers.

Lee will oppose the bill when the Senate votes, saying Congress should tackle this issue in pieces, starting with the border and ending with what to do with the undocumented immigrants already in the U.S.

Hatch’s move began a few weeks ago, when he began pressing the Gang of Eight to toughen the border security provisions and get tougher on back taxes.  Five weeks ago, the New York Times profiled Hatch’s growing influence on the direction of the bill, as the Go8 tried to build a wide coalition to pressure the House into action:

Members of the bipartisan group of eight senators who drafted an overhaul of the nation’s immigration laws see Mr. Hatch as a potentially influential partner. He was an original co-sponsor of the Dream Act for younger immigrants and has shown a willingness to embrace other immigration legislation as well. Though he ran to the right during a primary challenge in the 2012 election, they believe he might be brought back into the fold now that he is safely ensconced in his seventh Senate term.

“Senator Hatch is somebody who understands these issues well, has a long history, and it would very valuable to have him support our bill, both in committee and on the floor,” said Senator Charles E. Schumer, Democrat of New York and a member of the bipartisan group, who also sits on the Judiciary Committee with Mr. Hatch.

In an effort to increase Mr. Hatch’s investment in the legislation, Mr. Schumer and other members of the bipartisan group on Monday threw their support behind a Hatch initiative to begin collecting biometric information like fingerprints at airports to register immigrants when they leave the country.

With the exception of two Republican members of the bipartisan group who also sit on the Judiciary Committee — Senators Jeff Flake of Arizona and Lindsey Graham of South Carolina — Mr. Hatch is considered the other Republican member most likely to support the bill, which would give it some conservative gravitas as it heads to the Senate floor.

The biometric provisions made it into the final version of the bill, but a couple of other demands did not.  Hatch wanted a delay on ObamaCare benefits for the normalization group, and also wanted a tougher approach on back taxes, both of which the Go8 refused.  They did agree to block Social Security benefits during the normalization period and requirements to keep those without permanent residency from accessing welfare benefits, under pressure from Hatch.

The big question will be whether Hatch’s support puts more pressure on the House.  The Senate will pass this bill soon enough, but the House leadership is more inclined to follow Mike Lee’s strategy.

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Back taxes. Hilarious!

rob verdi on June 25, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Are there any conservative Republicans left or have they all crossed over?

rplat on June 25, 2013 at 9:23 AM

I take back anything nice I’ve ever said about Hatch, assuming I’ve ever said anything nice about Hatch.

ConservativeLA on June 25, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Why?

newportmike on June 25, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Karl Rove was the single worst thing that ever happened to the Republican party. His tactics are ruining the two party system.

JimBob on June 25, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Why oh, why do we pay these guys?

Let us give vacations without pay to all the law enforcement in the country until they get the illegals out.

I would add arresting Mr. Snowden but he is about 524th on my list of government employees due for prosecution.

IlikedAUH2O on June 25, 2013 at 9:25 AM

Back taxes. Hilarious!

rob verdi on June 25, 2013 at 9:23 AM

the IRS just gave millions of dollars to illegals who lived at the exact same address.

ChunkyLover on June 25, 2013 at 9:26 AM

And he knows this because he read the bill. Wonder if any pork went his way?

RdLake on June 25, 2013 at 9:27 AM

UGH!

gophergirl on June 25, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Some have said this bill grants amnesty, but that’s just not true. We have de facto amnesty right now, and this bill fixes that. The fact is that in order to be put on a pathway to citizenship, immigrants currently here illegally would be required to pay a fine, pass criminal and national security background checks and pay taxes.

Only after at least 10 years have passed and all five of these so-called “triggers” have been fully implemented can an illegal immigrant even apply for a green card. That’s hardly amnesty.

Except that all of that can be waived. No one will be required to pay fines. Back taxes only have to be paid by illegals who already owe the IRS(and even that will probably be ignored). Criminal and national security background checks? How the hell are 11+ million of those going to processed? And don’t get me started on the BS border security provisions of the bill. We all know those will be dismissed by Big Sis.

Hatch is either a moron or an amnesty shill like Graham, McCain, and Rubio who simply lied to get reelected. And unfortunately we’re stuck with the loser for another 5 1/2 years.

Doughboy on June 25, 2013 at 9:27 AM

Mark Levin hardest hit. Sarah too.

beatcanvas on June 25, 2013 at 9:28 AM

Only an effen lawyer could say what Hatch said about de facto Amnesty! Come to think of it, Rubio’s a lawyer too! Et tu AP!

tomshup on June 25, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Free Obamacars for the Young Pioneers…

“Breitbart News has learned there is a provision included in the immigration bill that could be used to give free cars, motorcycles, scooters or other vehicles to young people around the country over a period of 15 months after the bill passes. The new provision is a result of the latest addition to the Corker-Hoeven amendment, which is essentially an entirely new version of the bill.

The Washington Examiner’s Byron York uncovered the new Obama stimulus program that Gang of Eight members and other Senate Republicans inserted into the bill as a sweetheart deal for liberal Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT). The left leaning Senator was previously critical of the legislation.

“The original Gang bill ended with a section designated Title IV, which was headlined REFORMS TO NON-IMMIGRANT VISA PROGRAMS,” York wrote on Sunday. “The Hoeven-Corker version of the bill added a Title V, with the headline JOBS FOR YOUTH. The measure would provide $1.5 billion in the next two years to provide jobs for Americans between the ages of 16 and 24. It was originally pushed by Democratic Sen. Bernard Sanders, who wanted to come to the aid of young workers who were ‘hard hit by the Wall Street-caused recession.’ Now, Sanders says immigration reform will further damage youth job prospects.”

A provision under that new stimulus program title allows for the use of spending the taxpayer money on the program to provide transportation for youth to and from their jobs…”

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/24/ObamaCar-handout-for-taxpayer-subsidized-vehicles-for-kids-built-into-immigration-bill-too

workingclass artist on June 25, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Back taxes. Hilarious!

rob verdi on June 25, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Hey now! They will get the same scrutiny that the TEA Party groups got just as soon as the IRS is done scrutinizing the TEA Party.

ETA on that: 20,102AD

Gatsu on June 25, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Live girl or a dead boy.

What person, who wasn’t a total pervert himself, would praise Ted Kennedy to the skies as Hatch did in his pathetic performance at Ted’s funeral.

Bacha Bazi, Orrin?

sartana on June 25, 2013 at 9:29 AM

Time for a million person American citizen march on DC.
Shut it down

redguy on June 25, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Vote all of them out in 2014 and 2016…

Hatch caved, big time…and for what? A promise to consider, if conditions warrant, some sort of fix-it?

We never needed immigration reform.

We simply needed full enforcement of existing law…all across the board. No tons of new funding, pork projects, various political sweeteners costing billions….none of it.

But, when we have a President who directs a federal agencies to ignore federal law…or Cabinet secretaries routinely undermining existing law…and an attorney general who in saner times would have been indicted long long ago…or a Congress that votes funding and then pulls funding the very next session…madness…utter madness.

A house (and Senate) cleaning is needed…across the board if we are to survive.

Fundamentally change the way we are governed…that’s what Obama promised. He kept that one.

coldwarrior on June 25, 2013 at 9:31 AM

“Hatch opposed the 1986 amnesty”.

There’s part of the problem, lifer pols.

Bishop on June 25, 2013 at 9:32 AM

Won’t you all join me in a prayer for the health and well-being of Boehner’s spine this morning?

Bruce MacMahon on June 25, 2013 at 9:32 AM

Mark Levin hardest hit. Sarah too.

beatcanvas on June 25, 2013 at 9:28 AM

They did get snookered. The next few years are gonna get very ugly in the GOP primaries.

Doughboy on June 25, 2013 at 9:32 AM

You know, if you run the numbers it’s cheaper to just the illegals STAY illegal than handing them US citizenship under the current system.

BlaxPac on June 25, 2013 at 9:32 AM

Hatch votes for the destruction of America and the Republican party, in that order.

Brilliant.

The COC/Big Agribiz Slave Labor Bill grinds on.

ebrown2 on June 25, 2013 at 9:34 AM

the IRS just gave millions of dollars to illegals who lived at the exact same address.

ChunkyLover on June 25, 2013 at 9:26 AM

A Republican needs to go Bulworth. Forget that — a conservative needs to go Bulworth.

IlikedAUH2O on June 25, 2013 at 9:35 AM

Terza Partito

mjbrooks3 on June 25, 2013 at 9:35 AM

We’ve had “de facto amnesty” because of dirtbag rino’s like Orrin, who have sat there and allowed it to happen and continue without doing anything about it.

This clown came within a hair of being sent into retirement, too bad for us.

De Oppresso Liber on June 25, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Are there any conservative Republicans left or have they all crossed over?

rplat on June 25, 2013 at 9:23 AM

Jeff Sessions hasn’t given up fighting.

Stoic Patriot on June 25, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Lies.

Adding tens of millions of unskilled workers into an economy led by an anti-growth President. You can say we have “de facto amnesty” now, but that is a bare-faced lie. What we have is tens of millions of criminals that Washington refuses to pursue … and now wants to legitimize with entitlements.

Why? TO DEPRESS WAGES.

M240H on June 25, 2013 at 9:36 AM

This legislation significantly strengthens border security

No, it does not.

It opens the possibility of perhaps, at some point, potentially leading to some sort of border security if an administration wants to increase border security.

But no Democratic administration will, and if a Republican administration makes any moves towards the possibility of securing the border, it will be denounced as racist by the left and tut-tutted as alienating the Hispanic vote by the GOP establishment. So no deal.

rbj on June 25, 2013 at 9:36 AM

Won’t you all join me in a prayer for the health and well-being of Boehner’s spine this morning?

Bruce MacMahon on June 25, 2013 at 9:32 AM

TR would trot out his “no more backbone than a chocolate eclair” wise-crack in a nano-second for the Weeper.

(thunk)

Here that? It’s the Hastert rule going into the wastebasket.

ebrown2 on June 25, 2013 at 9:37 AM

Some have said this bill grants amnesty, but that’s just not true. We have de facto amnesty right now, and this bill fixes that.

…By making de facto amnesty both de facto and de jure? I can’t really say that fixes anything.

Stoic Patriot on June 25, 2013 at 9:37 AM

Just remember, folks. It’s okay if an illegal alien who’s driving drunk kills yet another American family as long as he has only one other DWI conviction. After all, we’re supposed to welcome these hard working law breakers into our country with open arms and have tolerance for their murderous ways. What’s one more American family when weighed against the message of amnesty?

madmonkphotog on June 25, 2013 at 9:37 AM

Has he read it.
Recall the sob.

losarkos on June 25, 2013 at 9:38 AM

I am willing to sacrifice one more POTUS election to annihilate the GOP and re-set the two-party system.

mjbrooks3 on June 25, 2013 at 9:39 AM

I must say I’m more than a little disappointed in this man…

I read the B-Slap from Sarah Palin on Rubio the other day.

Wonder if I’ll read another one by her on Hatch?

Something tells me I will not…..

ToddPA on June 25, 2013 at 9:40 AM

If Republican Senators like McCain, his pet dog Graham, and their new trained monkey Rubio, are stupid enough to trust their new-found Democratic “friends” and sell this country down the river for the hallucinatory promise of new Mexican Republican Voters, then I suggest that they wake up and smell what they’re shoveling.

The Republican Establishment had better think about which side their bread is buttered on. If they don’t, I hope they have a trade to fall back on.

The Vichy Republican Establishment has backhanded Conservatives for a long while, now.

kingsjester on June 25, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Back taxes. Hilarious!

rob verdi on June 25, 2013 at 9:23 AM

I really don’t understand this part at all.

If they have not paid taxes, odds are they were being paid under the table and would (1) likely not be able to document their earnings and (2) would have no incentive to properly document their earnings.

If they have been paying taxes, odds are they were doing it by way of a stolen identity. If during this process they determine that they did pay taxes but stole an identity, will they be prosecuted for that or will they also get amnesty on that too?

Fezzik on June 25, 2013 at 9:41 AM

He is spouting the “de facto” amnesty line. that means he has been bought off too. We should see what kind of deals his concerns are getting out of the Corker-Hoeven buy-off package.

paulsur on June 25, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Ed’s coverage seems so ho-hum, as if he is purposefully avoiding taking a stand on this issue in his analysis.

AP has been showing more fire and has been more strongly calling out these pro-amnesty traitors. If Ed did come out and support this bill now, can you imagine the reaction here in the comments? Perhaps that is the reason for the apparent even-keel tone.

And I was disappointed to hear Ed’s non-challenging interview with Rubio. But I still love Ed!

bluegill on June 25, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Vichy Republicans

faraway on June 25, 2013 at 9:42 AM

Hatch is either a moron or an amnesty shill like Graham, McCain, and Rubio who simply lied to get reelected. And unfortunately we’re stuck with the loser for another 5 1/2 years.

Doughboy on June 25, 2013 at 9:27 AM

At this point, I vote moron.

Turtle317 on June 25, 2013 at 9:42 AM

I get the feeling, because of some things hinted here and from wheat Ms. Grahamnasty has said, that these turncoats have finally realized they have spent this Country into bankruptcy and now the only solution is to open the Borders to 30 million low skilled workers to add them to the tax rolls just to bail out the situation. (like that is going to happen)
Most if these jerks will be dead and gone if/when these policies come to fruition, but their children and grand children won’t.
How many minimum wage workers donations to the RNC take to make up for mine (100k household). Guess we will find out.
These Political Creatures live in a bubble. They act like the language that Big Sis can deem the Border fixed next month, and that the newly minted Dem Voter’s employer’s don’t have to play by the Obamacare rules (other minorities are going to pay the price for this) for ten years isn’t there.
Glad I don’t drink where these guys do…

Whiterock on June 25, 2013 at 9:43 AM

I can’t bring myself to vote for this party anymore. A politician who contents himself to be no more than a junior partner to the Democrats does not deserve to hold office.

SAMinVA on June 25, 2013 at 9:43 AM

Some have said this bill grants amnesty, but that’s just not true. We have de facto amnesty right now, and this bill fixes that

Is it just me, or is that a contradiction? Yes, the bill does fix that…it grants legal amnesty instead of de facto.

cajunpatriot on June 25, 2013 at 9:43 AM

and re-set the two-party system.

mjbrooks3 on June 25, 2013 at 9:39 AM

And that my friend is the crux of the problem…where is it written anywhere in law that we are a two-party system? Even if Maxine Waters said it was enshrined in the Constitution doesn’t make it so.

It is the acceptance of a two-party “system” that got us in the mess we are in today.

Time to end it. Long past time to end it.

coldwarrior on June 25, 2013 at 9:44 AM

How about we discuss the fact that this bill massively increases the few of legal immigrants, not just amnesties illegals. The poor and middle class will be devastated.

This is enabling the Progressive agenda by changing the demographics. Every unhinged, destructive progressive wish will be rammed down our throats.

Charlemagne on June 25, 2013 at 9:45 AM

This legislation significantly strengthens border security.

With all this talk about this bill strengthening the borders, the obvious question is…Don’t we already have laws that make it illegal to cross the border? I would guess we do because these people are legally called “illegal immigrants”.

Don’t we already have a law requiring the building of a 700 mile fence? Yes we do.

We are now lead to believe that THIS TIME the laws will be enforced and THIS TIME the fence will be built.

Are these Republican senators this stupid or are do they think we are?

dirtseller on June 25, 2013 at 9:45 AM

Fezzik on June 25, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Yep.

It is all a lie. A trillion dollar lie.

Just like the Stimulus, just like Obamacare.

And the people swooned, and the bands played on, and everyone was happy and content that they’d done the right thing…

coldwarrior on June 25, 2013 at 9:46 AM

Recall Rubio

faraway on June 25, 2013 at 9:47 AM

I can’t bring myself to vote for this party anymore. A politician who contents himself to be no more than a junior partner to the Democrats does not deserve to hold office.

SAMinVA on June 25, 2013 at 9:43 AM

Those of us living in California have the best of both worlds. We can vote against the Democrat senator every time and not have to worry about the republican betraying us.

dirtseller on June 25, 2013 at 9:48 AM

Time for a (10) million person American citizen march on DC.
Shut it down

redguy on June 25, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Fixed that. I think it could be done. They think that having a couple hundred thousand illegals protesting in the streets of LA, Fresno and Chicago is a big effing deal. 10 Million tax-paying, law-abiding citizens in DC would be an actual real big effing deal.

This will pass in the House with little changes. Plenty of live girl, dead boy, fraud, abuse, philandering, etc. recorded by NSA and others, to push those on the fence into voting.

Post-America. Not because of Mexican immigration. All are welcome.

Post-America because we can’t survive 7 times GDP debt and unfunded liabilities. It is a certainty by the math.

Let’s get it over with. Open the borders wide. Give full citizenship at the border, no qualifications or waiting required. Free medical care, free housing, free food, free education.

Let the whole effing thing burn as soon as possible. The sooner that the economic and social catastrophe that has been set in motion happens, the sooner the entire world figures out that leftist, socialist, communist policy only serves the purpose of worldwide destruction. And the sooner we can pick up the pieces and move on.

Let the whole effing thing burn.

oldroy on June 25, 2013 at 9:48 AM

I am willing to sacrifice one more POTUS election to annihilate the GOP and re-set the two-party system.

mjbrooks3 on June 25, 2013 at 9:39 AM

A couple more elections like ’08 and we will be a Hispanic nation.

Of course, we could aim for Argentina as a model instead of Cuba.

IlikedAUH2O on June 25, 2013 at 9:48 AM

Adding tens of millions of unskilled workers into an economy led by an anti-growth President. You can say we have “de facto amnesty” now, but that is a bare-faced lie. What we have is tens of millions of criminals that Washington refuses to pursue … and now wants to legitimize with entitlements.

Why? TO DEPRESS WAGES.

M240H on June 25, 2013 at 9:36 AM

“Depressing wages” is not a problem, it’s a solution…but depressing the economy, not providing jobs, that is the problem.

The “illegal” workers, they force entry level wages down, and that’s a good thing, not a bad thing.

right2bright on June 25, 2013 at 9:49 AM

Old: term limits.

New: summary executions.

BuckeyeSam on June 25, 2013 at 9:49 AM

Hatch: I’ll vote yes on immigration reform

Because you value criminaliens more than law-abiding citizens.

By the way, Orrin, why do you hate black people and love the welfare state?

Resist We Much on June 25, 2013 at 9:49 AM

oldroy on June 25, 2013 at 9:48 AM

No, they want it to work like cooking a frog. You can’t heat the water quickly.

Your frog gets upset.

IlikedAUH2O on June 25, 2013 at 9:50 AM

Hey lets continue to depend on fixing the problems in the next election. It’s worked so well in the recent past.

bgibbs1000 on June 25, 2013 at 9:50 AM

“We have de facto amnesty right now, and this bill fixes that.”

Echo chamber. A very long one apparently.

Shay on June 25, 2013 at 9:51 AM

Old: term limits.

New: summary executions.

BuckeyeSam on June 25, 2013 at 9:49 AM

If I may make a suggestion, take that back and apologise profusely ASAP.

Otherwise, the banhammer will swing for thee…

Resist We Much on June 25, 2013 at 9:51 AM

Time for a million person American citizen march on DC.
Shut it down

redguy on June 25, 2013 at 9:30 AM

THIS^^^^^^^^

TEXASLEGAL on June 25, 2013 at 9:51 AM

“We have de facto amnesty right now, and this bill fixes that.”

No, it just clears the slate for the next blanket amnesty you clowns will impose on the American people.

Blake on June 25, 2013 at 9:52 AM

Even though Malkin warned us, can’t be too hard on Levin and Palin for endorsing Hatch. Heck, we all thought Rubio was on our side.

Levin already apologized to his audience for his Hatch endorsement.

commodore on June 25, 2013 at 9:52 AM

We have de facto amnesty right now, and this bill fixes that.”

De facto amnesty beats de jure amnesty any day.

Resist We Much on June 25, 2013 at 9:52 AM

They say we need the illegals to do the jobs Americans won’t do.

Will the illegals enforce the immigration laws Americans won’t?

Essentially, we have one party that refuses to abide by the law, and the other party accedes to their criminality and then gives them more. Why do we even have Republicans? Why do we have a Constitution and laws? It’s all just an exercise in naked power now, and our “legislators” then rubber-stamp the abuse of power, and the courts sit back and say they can’t do anything about it. Why should we follow the law when those who write them, interpret them, and enforce them don’t?

America is lost.

Socratease on June 25, 2013 at 9:52 AM

So Hatch’s “logic” is: “This bill sucks, but it doesn’t really, really suck so even though it sucks it’s better than doing nothing (which would only mildly suck) and better than trying to get a better bill later (which would mean more work for me and my august colleagues and we work too hard already).”

Is that about right? Where do we find these geniuses and why do we keep putting them in positions of power????

natasha333 on June 25, 2013 at 9:53 AM

De facto amnesty beats de jure amnesty any day.

Resist We Much on June 25, 2013 at 9:52 AM

Really it’s both de jure and du jour.

oldroy on June 25, 2013 at 9:55 AM

Every one of these Congress Creatures that votes for this should have to sign a pledge that states that if the Green Card phase starts before an actual fence is built, or if the “legal” workers become eligible for Obamacare before the ten year waiting period, they will resign on that day. I don’t care what outcome would be. The US would be screwed at that time anyway, but at least the walk of shame would be nice parting visual. Fools, f’ing fools, (spits)

Whiterock on June 25, 2013 at 9:56 AM

When you think about how much effort conservatives put into getting Rubio elected, it just makes you sick. He’s a total fraud!!

bluegill on June 25, 2013 at 9:56 AM

How did the tea party fail to replace this person?

Buddahpundit on June 25, 2013 at 9:57 AM

Hatch, a friend of Reid’s, has just made sure he is reelected again…saving his job is much more important than doing anything to help the nation…I mean, how can he help the nation if he isn’t elected?

These guys are just a bunch of princes, making sure each stay in power.

right2bright on June 25, 2013 at 9:58 AM

And I was disappointed to hear Ed’s non-challenging interview with Rubio. But I still love Ed!

bluegill on June 25, 2013 at 9:41 AM

Rubio is our nominee for 2016 along with Jeb Bush as his running mate. It has already been decided. :-)

Punchenko on June 25, 2013 at 9:58 AM

“de facto amnesty” — bwaaaaahahahahaha!

Let’s fix this “de facto amnesty” by “reforming” our immigration system with … amnesty!

Jaibones on June 25, 2013 at 9:58 AM

Can you recall Senators?

Jaibones on June 25, 2013 at 9:59 AM

Rubio is our nominee for 2016 along with Jeb Bush as his running mate. It has already been decided. :-)

Punchenko on June 25, 2013 at 9:58 AM

Cool, now I know I can go hunting that day instead of trudging down to the voting booths.

Bishop on June 25, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Why is our Governments refusal to enforce our existing immigration laws ans system called amnesty? Why is malfeasance used as an excuse? We already have a generous immigration policy. We already have a more comprehensive security and immigration enforcement apparatus.

The real problem is calling our Government’s intentional lack of enforcement, de facto amnesty. It’s de facto malfeasance. It’s de facto political and economic fraud.

To refuse to enforce existing generous and comprehensive immigration policy and law, is not, and never will be de facto amnesty. It is fraud and malfeasance.

oldroy on June 25, 2013 at 10:01 AM

Even though Malkin warned us, can’t be too hard on Levin and Palin for endorsing Hatch. Heck, we all thought Rubio was on our side.

Levin already apologized to his audience for his Hatch endorsement.

commodore on June 25, 2013 at 9:52 AM

apologies mean crap. hatch has a history that both of them knew well. they backed him, along w/rubio and ayotte. palin campaigned for mccain and i dont care about favors owed, etc. she bears responsibility for this also. ranting on your radio show or cutesy speeches w/ big gulp props are worthless if your helping to elect these politicians.

chasdal on June 25, 2013 at 10:01 AM

Cool, now I know I can go hunting that day instead of trudging down to the voting booths.

Bishop on June 25, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Far more productive, even if you don’t get anything.

oldroy on June 25, 2013 at 10:02 AM

How did the tea party fail to replace this person?

Buddahpundit on June 25, 2013 at 9:57 AM

Basically Hatch about a year or so before the 2012 election started moving very far to the right. He managed to snag key endorsements from the likes of Levin and Palin which helped to suppress any potential Tea Party challenges. Plus it probably helped that there were no key votes recently taken that enraged the base like with Bennett and TARP which led to him being knocked off by Mike Lee.

The moral of the story is we can’t put any faith in squishy RINOs anymore to do the right thing, even on something like amnesty. People like Hatch who hail from deep red states must be replaced by reliable conservatives(if those even exist anymore). That’s why there’s no excuse to not replace Grahamnesty next year. South Carolina ain’t going blue. He must be primaried.

Doughboy on June 25, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Read it and weep for our country:

AP: “Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., said Tuesday that the Senate’s advancement of stronger border security measures makes it “even more likely” that immigration reform will pass the House and become law.”

natasha333 on June 25, 2013 at 10:04 AM

McCain and Hatch are both career politicians that lie during election years, and show their true colors the day after election.

Each of these has a score lower than 80% on the Heritage Foundations score card. Coincidentally the only fight these people ever put up is the fight against their own party. The leadership gets their power from squishes like these.

2014 RINO’s
Pat Roberts KS
Mitch McConnell KY
Susan Collins ME
Thad Cochran MS
Lindsey Graham SC
Lamar Alexander TN
Mike Enzi WY

Jeff Sessions score is in the same territory, but he’s putting up a fight now.

Jury is still out on Cornyn.

ritewhit on June 25, 2013 at 10:04 AM

This is enabling the Progressive agenda by changing the demographics. Every unhinged, destructive progressive wish will be rammed down our throats.

Charlemagne on June 25, 2013 at 9:45 AM

Great, the faster the better, I want Utopia to be realized within the next 10 years. Every last one of our leftists and their political jackasses deserves all the goodness that socialism has to offer and I hope they get what they want crammed up their chutes with a smile.

I’ll be over here keeping my head down while watching the smoke and flames on the horizon, I’m thinking the burning Twin Cities will make for a beautiful nighttime light show.

Bishop on June 25, 2013 at 10:06 AM

Read it and weep for our country:
AP: “Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., said Tuesday that the Senate’s advancement of stronger border security measures makes it “even more likely” that immigration reform will pass the House and become law.”
natasha333 on June 25, 2013 at 10:04 AM

I’m not in the mood for weeping. I feel like fighting and stopping this thing!

bluegill on June 25, 2013 at 10:07 AM

Hatch has read the bill?

gwelf on June 25, 2013 at 10:07 AM

I know it is a dream, but hey, what if:

The GOP and a couple Dems voted against the bill and handed Obama another defeat? “I can’t support this bill in the way it has evolved. Border security MUST be first and verifiable.” THAT would be awesome.

But then, I’m a dreamer, I know.

ProfShadow on June 25, 2013 at 10:08 AM

Old scumbag

TexasJew on June 25, 2013 at 10:08 AM

Hatch is a pro-amnesty schmuck. I’m starting to feel as though some of our ‘leaders’ are supporting the ‘rights’ of illegals over the rights of citizens. *spit*

annoyinglittletwerp on June 25, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Read it and weep for our country:

AP: “Rep. Paul Ryan, R-Wis., said Tuesday that the Senate’s advancement of stronger border security measures makes it “even more likely” that immigration reform will pass the House and become law.”

natasha333 on June 25, 2013 at 10:04 AM

Great then. It’s done. Bring it on. Bring on the greatest economic and social collapse we’ve know. As soon as possible.

What’s another $10 trillion in unfunded liabilities when you already have ore than 100?

Let in burn. Let it effing burn.

oldroy on June 25, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Rubio is our nominee for 2016 along with Jeb Bush as his running mate. It has already been decided. :-)

Punchenko on June 25, 2013 at 9:58 AM

HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Congratulations to “Fertile Folks” everywhere!!

No Seriously, I mean they should come from EVERYWHERE!!!!!

ToddPA on June 25, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Back to the phones. DC switchboard jammed.

lynncgb on June 25, 2013 at 10:10 AM

apologies mean crap. hatch has a history that both of them knew well. they backed him, along w/rubio and ayotte. palin campaigned for mccain and i dont care about favors owed, etc. she bears responsibility for this also. ranting on your radio show or cutesy speeches w/ big gulp props are worthless if your helping to elect these politicians.

THIS x100 (I include Rush), and I love them all.
When you got a big voice, you have to be careful who you call friend, who you call foe.
Redemption is not just apologizing, it is organizing TODAY against those who betrayed you, and using all of the tools available to you to correct that betrayal.

Whiterock on June 25, 2013 at 10:10 AM

I love Sarah, but she should be calling out, by name, these traitors that she put into office over more conservative challengers. Hatch and Ayotte both lied during their campaigns and need to be called on it.

AmeriCuda on June 25, 2013 at 10:10 AM

He has not read it. Everything he says is a lie.

It IS Amnesty.

Time for a million person American citizen march on DC.
Shut it down

redguy on June 25, 2013 at 9:30 AM

Yes!

dogsoldier on June 25, 2013 at 10:13 AM

I love Sarah, but she should be calling out, by name, these traitors that she put into office over more conservative challengers. Hatch and Ayotte both lied during their campaigns and need to be called on it.

AmeriCuda on June 25, 2013 at 10:10 AM

She has called out Rubio, by name. I imagine that she will be doing the same with Hatch and Ayotte.

Resist We Much on June 25, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Kill it in The House.

smoothsailing on June 25, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Resist We Much on June 25, 2013 at 10:13 AM

Brava to her!

annoyinglittletwerp on June 25, 2013 at 10:14 AM

Rubio is our nominee for 2016 along with Jeb Bush as his running mate. It has already been decided. :-)

Punchenko on June 25, 2013 at 9:58 AM

Cool, now I know I can go hunting that day instead of trudging down to the voting booths.

Bishop on June 25, 2013 at 10:00 AM

Pretty much.

Everything is about the $$$ and the Crown Princes of Washington staying in power until they’re old, senile, or replaced by their children (The Kennedy Seat or the Bush Legacy, for example).

All the big donors and the Bush network (which is massive) will line up behind Rubio, as planned, with Jeb being selected as his running mate. The Bush Legacy endures and George P. Bush in Texas will have his dad in Washington keeping the donors and power networks humming.

Punchenko on June 25, 2013 at 10:15 AM

The fact is that in order to be put on a pathway to citizenship, immigrants currently here illegally would be required to pay a fine, pass criminal and national security background checks and pay taxes.

1. The “fine” illegals will pay for amnesty is far less than the “fee” that legal immigrants have to pay to get a visa. Furthermore, the amnesty bill gives Janet Napolitano the authority to waive the payment even of that small “fine” (for as many illegals as she pleases), if the illegal simply claims that paying the fine would be a “financial hardship.”

2. There will be no “criminal and national security background checks” performed on millions of illegal alien amnesty applicants. We’ve seen this same con time and time again. The 1986 amnesty program was supposed to have “background checks” on amnestied illegals. Instead, the government admitted that as many as 1/3 of the APPROVED amnesty applications from the 1986 program were based on fraudulent documents. The government said it knew the amnesty program was rife with fraud, but said it was powerless to do anything about it.

A much more recent example of the “background checks” con can be seen in the DREAM Act by executive order that Obama (illegally) signed into law law year. There were supposed to be “background checks” for those illegal aliens too. Recently, Judicial Watch served an FOIA request on DHS to find out how the background checks were coming along — and guess what? DHS admitted that it has not been doing background checks on the DREAMer amnesty applications. DHS says it was “overwhelmed” by all the applications it received (hundreds of thousands) and decided to “streamline” the process — by just stamping the applications “APPROVED”! DHS is not even requiring the applications to be submitted with verifiable ID! To date, DHS has approved more than 99.5% of all the DREAM amnesty applications submitted.

So don’t worry folks. DHS was “overwhelmed” by the prospect of performing background checks on hundreds of thousands of DREAMer amnesty applications, but DHS will have no problem performing background checks on millions, or even tens of millions, of “gang of 8″ amnesty applications.

3. There is no real requirement in the amnesty bill for amnestied illegal aliens to pay back taxes. The only requirement in the bill is that illegal aliens who have already been filing U.S. tax returns (a very small percentage), and who have already been notified by the IRS that they have an outstanding tax obligation (an even smaller percentage), will have to pay that bill. Only a handful of illegal aliens will have any tax obligation at all.

AZCoyote on June 25, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Rubio: Sire, the Capitol Hill switchboard is jammed! The Peasants are revolting!

McCain: Yeah. They stink on ice./

Time to stand up on our hind legs, Conservatives.

kingsjester on June 25, 2013 at 10:16 AM

She has called out Rubio, by name. I imagine that she will be doing the same with Hatch and Ayotte.

Resist We Much on June 25, 2013 at 10:13 AM

BFD, it’s pointless now. she doesnt have the juice to get them to change their position.

chasdal on June 25, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Though he ran to the right during a primary challenge in the 2012 election, they believe he might be brought back into the fold now that he is safely ensconced in his seventh Senate term.

Goes to show you just can’t trust any Republican when they are campaigning.

Barred on June 25, 2013 at 10:16 AM

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