Breaking: Supreme Court strikes down part of Voting Rights Act

posted at 10:15 am on June 25, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

The Supreme Court may not have been ready to hand down its controversial decision on same-sex marriage today, but that doesn’t mean they avoided provoking a huge debate.  In a 5-4 decision authored by Chief Justice John Roberts, the court struck down Section 4 of the Voting Rights Act as unconstitutional.  So far, we have only a few tweets on this decision:

Here’s the decision.  The relevant argument is that the VRA departs from the basic principle of state sovereignty before applying law, at least under the old model in Section 4 for pre-clearance.  In order for the VRA to interfere with state sovereignty, Congress has to identify where racial discrimination in voting access is so endemic as to require that kind of intervention now, and not 50 years ago:

(3) Nearly 50 years later, things have changed dramatically. Largely because of the Voting Rights Act, “[v]oter turnout and registration rates” in covered jurisdictions “now approach parity. Blatantly discriminatory evasions of federal decrees are rare. And minority candidates hold office at unprecedented levels.” Northwest Austin, supra, at 202. The tests and devices that blocked ballot access have been forbidden nationwide for over 40 years. Yet the Act has not eased §5’s restrictions or narrowed the scope of §4’s coverage formula along the way. Instead those extraordinary and unprecedented features have been reauthorized as if nothing has changed, and they have grown even stronger. Because §5 applies only to those jurisdictions singled out by §4, the Court turns to consider that provision. Pp. 13–17.

The defense of those 50-year-old definitions did not impress the court:

(2) The Government attempts to defend the formula on grounds that it is “reverse-engineered”—Congress identified the jurisdictions to be covered and then came up with criteria to describe them. Katzenbach did not sanction such an approach, reasoning instead that the coverage formula was rational because the “formula . . . was relevant to the problem.” 383 U. S., at 329, 330. The Government has a fallback argument—because the formula was relevant in 1965, its continued use is permissible so long as any discrimination remains in the States identified in 1965. But this does not look to “current political conditions,” Northwest Austin, supra, at 203, instead relying on a  comparison between the States in 1965. But history did not end in 1965. In assessing the “current need[ ]” for a preclearance system treating States differently from one another today, history since 1965 cannot be ignored. The Fifteenth Amendment is not designed to punish for the past; its purpose is to ensure a better future. To serve that purpose, Congress—if it is to divide the States—must identify those jurisdictions to be singled out on a basis that makes sense in light of current conditions. Pp. 18–21.

In other words, the government couldn’t even make an argument that the endemic discrimination that required federal interference in state-level legislative processes still existed.  They just argued that because the conditions existed 50 years ago, they might still be a problem today — an argument that lends itself to unlimited exercise.  Small wonder the court found this irrational.

Note too that Section 4 impacts Section 5. The latter governs redistricting, which is another state-level legislative process that the Department of Justice can block in certain states using Section 4′s preclearance authority.  Without Section 4, Section 5 loses its teeth as a process with no jurisdiction any longer.

The court left Congress an opening to provide a more rational formula for Section 4, but noted repeatedly that times have changed, and extraordinary intervention will be difficult to justify:

Striking down an Act of Congress “is the gravest and most delicate duty that this Court is called on to perform.”  Blodgett v. Holden, 275 U. S. 142, 148 (1927) (Holmes, J., concurring). We do not do so lightly. That is why, in 2009, we took care to avoid ruling on the constitutionality of the Voting Rights Act when asked to do so, and instead resolved the case then before us on statutory grounds. But in issuing that decision, we expressed our broader concerns about the constitutionality of the Act. Congress could have updated the coverage formula at that time, but did not do so. Its failure to act leaves us today with no
choice but to declare §4(b) unconstitutional. The formula in that section can no longer be used as a basis for subjecting jurisdictions to preclearance.

Our decision in no way affects the permanent, nationwide ban on racial discrimination in voting found in §2. We issue no holding on §5 itself, only on the coverage formula. Congress may draft another formula based on current conditions. Such a formula is an initial prerequisite to a determination that exceptional conditions still exist justifying such an “extraordinary departure from the traditional course of relations between the States and the Federal Government.” Presley, 502 U. S., at 500–501. Our country has changed, and while any racial discrimination in voting is too much, Congress must ensure that the
legislation it passes to remedy that problem speaks to current conditions.

National Journal profiled this case last week:

At issue before the Supreme Court in the Alabama case is a key provision of the 1965 Voting Rights Act that requires jurisdictions (mostly in the South but not entirely) to get federal approval (either from the Justice Department or a panel of the D.C. Circuit Court) before it can change any voting procedure. That can be something as big as redistricting a state’s Congressional lines or a town moving a polling place to a different location. The idea behind the law was to keep elected officials in the Jim Crow South from implementing ruses to keep blacks from voting.

This preclearance procedure is contained in what’s called Section 5 of the act and it faced court challenges immediately when it was enacted. In 1965, the Warren Court upheld emergency provision and said that it had to be regularly renewed. The first period was for five years but Congress has extended the renewals. The 2006 renewal of the Section 5 was for 25 years and passed the House by almost 400 votes and the Senate by 98-0–a testament to the law’s enduring popularity and effectiveness.

But the formula for determining who gets covered–a combination of voting practices and patterns– hasn’t changed since the 1960s. It applies to nine states — Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina, Texas, and Virginia — plus counties and municipalities in other states. Indeed, some states and cities have fallen under Section 5′s sway even though they weren’t legally segregated, including such as certain parts of New York City and towns in New Hampshire.

There’s reason to think the court is unlikely to allow those discrepancies to stand until 2031 when the act comes up for renewal. In 2009, the Supreme Court used the case of an obscure water utility district in Texas to express doubt about the viability of Section 5 preclearance procedure with Chief Justice John Roberts all but inviting Congress to limit its scope. “Things have changed in the South,” Roberts wrote. “Voter turnout and registration rates now approach parity. Blatantly discriminatory evasions of federal decrees are rare. And minority candidates hold office at unprecedented levels….The evil that (Section 5) is meant to address may no longer be concentrated in the jurisdictions singled out for preclearance,” Roberts wrote in the majority 8-1opinion which suggests even a liberal justice might jump the fence. “The statute’s coverage formula is based on data that is now more than 35 years old, and there is considerable evidence that it fails to account for current political conditions.”

Will Congress address the court decision with a renovated Section 4?  Doubtful, even without Chuck Todd’s conclusion that it’s not “mature enough” to deal with voting rights at all.  The problem left by this decision will be to find someplace in America where state law creates endemic racial and ethnic discrimination at a level that requires federal intervention in the state legislative process.  Where might that be?  The opinion includes this chart showing the difference between white and black voting registration in 1965 and 2004:

scotus-vra-chart

The only state where the difference is outside the margin of polling error is, surprisingly, Virginia, where the gap was lowest in 1965. (Look at the improvement in Mississippi, for instance, and ask why it’s still on the Section 4 list.)  Rather than interfere with states’ legislative process before the fact (which is what the preclearance provision allows), the DoJ can address Virginia’s current statutes with the rest of the VRA now — without Sections 4 or 5.  Congress could designate Virginia only in a revised Section 4, too, but that’s going to be a very tough sell.

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When our side loses we take our lumps and try to figure out a way to fix it. When the left loses they riot and tear stuff up.

neyney on June 25, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Yep, or run away to Illinois.

22044 on June 25, 2013 at 12:22 PM

So if you pass all the voter ID laws you want and Democrats win national elections will you quite your complaining? Or will you move to requiring a property owners only test? Or a college graduate test?

libfreeordie on June 25, 2013 at 11:14 AM

Only tax payers should be allowed to vote including retirees who paid their taxes…

mnjg on June 25, 2013 at 12:23 PM

I hear Eric Holder is going to hold his breath until the Supremes change their minds…

… Obowma, too.

Seven Percent Solution on June 25, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Some idiot just said because 15% of whites voted for -obama in Alabama we really need this section 5 act because of racial discrimination
What an iduoty

cmsinaz on June 25, 2013 at 12:15 PM

Obama won 100% of the vote in 59 Philly precincts and 9 Cleveland precincts, but, obviously, no one there thinks that they need Section 5 of the VRA because of racial discrimination.

Those are just two examples.

Resist We Much on June 25, 2013 at 12:24 PM

RWM/Wethal, what’s the deal with Fisher v. U of Texas? They vacated the 5th Circuit decision, but didn’t replace it with one of their own?

Good Solid B-Plus on June 25, 2013 at 12:08 PM

The disappointing part of Fisher (ok, there are several) is that SCOTUS, except for Thomas, think “diversity” is a compelling state interest, or goal.

While “diversity,” (If you cen even define it), it an acceptable goal, is it compelling – so overwhelmingly important that it justifies treating people differently because of race?

Fisher apparently didn’t challenge “diversity,” so SCOTUS didn’t go there.

Wethal on June 25, 2013 at 12:25 PM

When the left loses they riot and tear stuff up.

neyney on June 25, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Savage, self-indulgent children. It’s the Jacobin DNA. It never changes.

rrpjr on June 25, 2013 at 12:26 PM

You are the best. Thanks for all the info all the time. :)

SailorMark on June 25, 2013 at 11:51 AM

TYVM. How have you been? I haven’t seen you lately.

Resist We Much on June 25, 2013 at 12:26 PM

Congress has to identify where racial discrimination in voting access is so endemic as to require that kind of intervention now

exactamundo…haven’t heard one piece of evidence that this occurs….and yet that is the only thing the lib hacks are crying about: racial discrimination, voter suppression, arrrrgghhh!

cmsinaz on June 25, 2013 at 12:27 PM

Resist We Much on June 25, 2013 at 12:24 PM

i hear ya….bloody delusional in their outrage…

cmsinaz on June 25, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Only tax payers should be allowed to vote including retirees who paid their taxes…

mnjg on June 25, 2013 at 12:23 PM

Really? How about those people who pay taxes on the bourbon that they drink, or the cigarettes that they smoke? Should they be given the franchise?

How about those paying gasoline taxes? Cell phone taxes? Airline seat taxes?

Should those people who pay more of those taxes get more of a vote?

Have you thought this through? Because I’m thinking you haven’t thought this through…

JohnGalt23 on June 25, 2013 at 12:28 PM

Wethal on June 25, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Resist We Much on June 25, 2013 at 12:20 PM

Thank you both for your quick and cogent responses. I’m an amateur legal scholar, and I’ve always been fascinated by the SCOTUS (I even read the entirety of “Marshall: Definer of a Nation,” which is slightly shorter than the Old Testament), but it’s always nice to get a deft summation from the professionals. :)

Good to hear that UT actually has to defend their system and we might finally see the end of purely race-based, discriminatory affirmative action.

Good Solid B-Plus on June 25, 2013 at 12:28 PM

“The problem left by this decision will be to find someplace in America where state law creates endemic racial and ethnic discrimination at a level that requires federal intervention in the state legislative process.”

What about all the illegal alien votes cancelling out my vote in California…?

… Isn’t there a law against that?

What…?

… “Comprehensive Immigration Reform”?

Oh… Never mind.

:(

Seven Percent Solution on June 25, 2013 at 12:29 PM

Polls in black and Hispanic precincts will soon be open from 7:00AM – 7:20AM. lol

stingray9813 on June 25, 2013 at 12:31 PM

The disappointing part of Fisher (ok, there are several) is that SCOTUS, except for Thomas, think “diversity” is a compelling state interest, or goal.

While “diversity,” (If you cen even define it), it an acceptable goal, is it compelling – so overwhelmingly important that it justifies treating people differently because of race?

Fisher apparently didn’t challenge “diversity,” so SCOTUS didn’t go there.

Wethal on June 25, 2013 at 12:25 PM

Heh…diversity for everyone except the SCOTUS, right? How many law schools are currently represented by the 9 Justices….three?

Good Solid B-Plus on June 25, 2013 at 12:32 PM

I am calling on Congress to pass legislation to ensure every American has equal access to the polls.

dear leader

hello,mcfly? they still have equal access to the polls….the dems are trying to make the case that the entire voting rights act was struck down…there is no more act….

cripe…lsm will follow suit…

cmsinaz on June 25, 2013 at 12:34 PM

OT: Has FloraDuh been around at all? How about KeyWestReader? TIA…

OmahaConservative on June 25, 2013 at 12:37 PM

How about a spelling test?
Oldnuke on June 25, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Perhaps poker’s just not your game, Ike.

tommyboy on June 25, 2013 at 12:37 PM

And once again, Holder has proven just how incompetent he is. He should have left it alone. But noooooo…. just had to keep poking the sleeping tiger.

Democrats have no one to blame but Holder for this ruling. They pushed it and pushed it and now they lost.

ButterflyDragon on June 25, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Texas AG just said that the Texas Voter ID bill takes affect immediately.

sentinelrules on June 25, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Texas AG just said that the Texas Voter ID bill takes affect immediately.

sentinelrules on June 25, 2013 at 12:43 PM

Awesome…

OmahaConservative on June 25, 2013 at 12:45 PM

In other words, the government couldn’t even make an argument that the endemic discrimination that required federal interference in state-level legislative processes still existed.

By “state level legislative processes”, I assume you mean changes to laws and procedures that affect the right to vote- although your euphemism is effective.

It’s great to watch the GOP continue down this path, immigrants and minorities of all backgrounds will just be hardened in their opposition to Republicans.

bayam on June 25, 2013 at 12:46 PM

bayam on June 25, 2013 at 12:46 PM

OK, HAL.

Why don’t you tell us why the trolls at MSNBC are so unhinged, then.

22044 on June 25, 2013 at 12:48 PM

And once again, Holder has proven just how incompetent he is. He should have left it alone. But noooooo…. just had to keep poking the sleeping tiger.

Democrats have no one to blame but Holder for this ruling. They pushed it and pushed it and now they lost.

ButterflyDragon on June 25, 2013 at 12:41 PM

So Eric Holder’s incompetence and stupidity for once has helped us? Funny how that works out.

slickwillie2001 on June 25, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Really? How about those people who pay taxes on the bourbon that they drink, or the cigarettes that they smoke? Should they be given the franchise?

How about those paying gasoline taxes? Cell phone taxes? Airline seat taxes?

Should those people who pay more of those taxes get more of a vote?

Have you thought this through? Because I’m thinking you haven’t thought this through…

JohnGalt23 on June 25, 2013 at 12:28 PM

I meant income tax

mnjg on June 25, 2013 at 12:53 PM

It’s great to watch the GOP continue down this path, immigrants and minorities of all backgrounds will just be hardened in their opposition to Republicans.

bayam on June 25, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Right, because minorities don’t vote for the GOP because of voter ID laws.

sentinelrules on June 25, 2013 at 12:53 PM

It’s great to watch the GOP continue down this path, immigrants and minorities of all backgrounds will just be hardened in their opposition to Republicans.

bayam on June 25, 2013 at 12:46 PM

For once you are correct. We are playing their game.

We should be trying to split the Dems instead.

faraway on June 25, 2013 at 12:55 PM

It’s great to watch the GOP continue down this path, immigrants and minorities of all backgrounds will just be hardened in their opposition to Republicans.

bayam on June 25, 2013 at 12:46 PM

You can have all the people who want to live on the producers expense… Eventually your alliance of parasites is going to collapse on its own when the parasites start fighting each others…

mnjg on June 25, 2013 at 12:56 PM

Obama won 100% of the vote in 59 Philly precincts and 9 Cleveland precincts, but, obviously, no one there thinks that they need Section 5 of the VRA because of racial discrimination.

Those are just two examples.

Resist We Much on June 25, 2013 at 12:24 PM

Worse is most of those districts had over 100% voter turnout. Seriously???

Tater Salad on June 25, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Poor Leftists…..what’s that phrase again?

oh yeah,

“I’m no waaaaays taaaard”.

ToddPA on June 25, 2013 at 12:59 PM

Heh…diversity for everyone except the SCOTUS, right? How many law schools are currently represented by the 9 Justices….three?

Good Solid B-Plus on June 25, 2013 at 12:32 PM

You can add religion to that equation, as well. The Court has been comprised of Catholics and Jews for decades. I’m probably wrong (and I don’t want to look it up), but the last Protestant on the Court was probably Hugo Black, who was not exactly a peach. Former KKK member, who HATED Catholics. In fact, the reason that the ‘wall between church and state’ was adopted in the law was because Black hated the Catholic Church.

(No, Progs, Thomas Jefferson’s letter to the Danbury Baptists was not a law or in anyway legally binding. If you want to see some examples of how the Court looked at the issue of church and state before Black went on his tear in Everson v Board of Education in 1947, go read Vidal v Girard’s Executors, 43 US 127 (1844), and Church of the Holy Trinity v United States, 143 U.S. 457 (1892)) and watch your hair curl…even if you’re bald.

Resist We Much on June 25, 2013 at 1:03 PM

So if you pass all the voter ID laws you want and Democrats win national elections will you quite your complaining? Or will you move to requiring a property owners only test? Or a college graduate test?

libfreeordie on June 25, 2013 at 11:14 AM

What a *crazy* statement, lib.

At this point……..Democrats wouldn’t win any elections if the laws were changed.

avagreen on June 25, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Only tax payers should be allowed to vote including retirees who paid their taxes…

mnjg on June 25, 2013 at 12:23 PM

…and if we repealed the income tax and replaced it with a consumption tax, everyone can vote! I like it.

Daemonocracy on June 25, 2013 at 1:04 PM

Hooray! Now the Republicans who properly run the South can stop paying for the mistakes of the Democrats who committed all of the problems which caused this mess back in the 1950′s and 1960′s.

Theophile on June 25, 2013 at 1:07 PM

You can add religion to that equation, as well. The Court has been comprised of Catholics and Jews for decades. I’m probably wrong (and I don’t want to look it up), but the last Protestant on the Court was probably Hugo Black, who was not exactly a peach.

Resist We Much on June 25, 2013 at 1:03 PM

William Rehnquist was a Lutheran…

OmahaConservative on June 25, 2013 at 1:07 PM

DNC trying to raise cash off this

LSM outrage?
Yeah
/

Msdnc milking this outcry as much as possible

Idiots

cmsinaz on June 25, 2013 at 1:11 PM

immigrants and minorities of all backgrounds will just be hardened in their opposition to Republicans.

bayam on June 25, 2013 at 12:46 PM

Wha? *plunk*
.
.
.

……….’cuse me while I pick myself up off the floor.

….laughing so hard……………………….i think i did myself in.
.
.
.
Thra-gooooom! Gluglugluglug
(Back from the bathroom.)
Yep! I did.

But, I’m back now. What were you sayin’? (stiffled giggle)(snort)(wiping eyes)

avagreen on June 25, 2013 at 1:16 PM

The slave of HA is still a bigot and a racist.

Schadenfreude on June 25, 2013 at 1:18 PM

Section 5 required states to obtain preclearance approval for any change involving elections — any change, even moving a polling place 20 feet. Only 15 states were covered by Section 5, including hotbeds of Jim Crow like Michigan, New York, and Alaska.

Over the years, the Justice Department unit enforcing Section 5 has had hundreds of thousands of dollars in court sanctions imposed against it for abusing the Section 5 process. They even demanded that Alabama submit felon DNA testing to the Justice Department for approval, a law which had nothing to do with elections.

Now, Voter ID laws in Texas, Alabama, and Mississippi are in effect after a delay of years.

J. Christian Adams at PJ Media.

Wethal on June 25, 2013 at 1:22 PM

Only tax payers should be allowed to vote including retirees who paid their taxes…
 
mnjg on June 25, 2013 at 12:23 PM

 
Really? How about those people who pay taxes on the bourbon that they drink, or the cigarettes that they smoke? Should they be given the franchise?
 
How about those paying gasoline taxes? Cell phone taxes? Airline seat taxes?
 
Should those people who pay more of those taxes get more of a vote?
 
Have you thought this through? Because I’m thinking you haven’t thought this through…
 
JohnGalt23 on June 25, 2013 at 12:28 PM

 
I’ve thought about it quite a bit. I’ve posted about it before IIRC.
 
Merely filing tax documents =/= “paying taxes”.
 
If these folks get money “back” through EITC programs and the like and it’s more than what they paid over the course of a year, they are not paying taxes. Paying taxes means you have a tax liability.
 
I don’t want anyone to not have at least one vote, so let’s look at it in terms of a business (google A and B class shares if you need to). It’s silly to think that JohnGalt23 could own 25% of a billion dollar company while rogerb owns one share worth $25 and both of our votes count exactly the same towards determining the future of that company.
 
One vote per person, with more votes allowed for increased tax liability up to X maximum votes per taxpayer. I’d need more data to decide, but I’m leaning towards 10 for that number. It would probably need to be much, much higher considering the number of people in the US without tax liability or negative liability (they make money from taxes).
 

That said, if someone is willing to save up their cigarette, booze, cell phone, and airline receipts in order to demonstrate how any pleasure/frivolous taxes paid offset the total benefits they received from WIC, SNAP, EITC, etc., then more power to them. Maybe that could start another useful need-based discussion regarding their entitlements as well.

rogerb on June 25, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Only tax payers should be allowed to vote including retirees who paid their taxes…

mnjg on June 25, 2013 at 12:23 PM

So an E-1 Marine fighting in Afghanistan can’t vote?

Cuz he’s not likely to be paying much, if anything, in taxes.

See – you guys never think this through for unintended consequences.

What about a school teacher in a poor school district?

What about a farm worker? How about a bouncer in a bar? All low paying jobs and prolly will have all their taxes at the end of the year refunded.

So the only way peeps can become full citizens is to shun the low paying jobs all over the country and go for something that will result in them paying taxes. Wow – that’s a formula for real economic success!!! Everyone turning down minimum wage jobs! Who’ll do them?

LMFAO.

HondaV65 on June 25, 2013 at 1:30 PM

rogerb on June 25, 2013 at 1:23 PM

Great! So George Soros gets more votes than all of us!

You’re a genius.

Same would go for Cher, John Cougar, Barbara Streisand, etc.

Absolutely great idea boss.

/s

HondaV65 on June 25, 2013 at 1:34 PM

Holder is basically saying screw the decision he’s going to keep on doing what he is doing

Natch

cmsinaz on June 25, 2013 at 1:36 PM

William Rehnquist was a Lutheran…

OmahaConservative on June 25, 2013 at 1:07 PM

Thanks. I said that I was probably wrong. lol Nevertheless, for the last half century, at least, most justices have either been Catholics or Jews and attended Harvard or Yale (with the occasional bone thrown to Stanford).

I don’t think religion has the impact that the Left claims. It hates and fights Catholic nominees because they think that those justices are automatic votes against abortion, contraception, homosexuality, etc. It’s not true, as evidenced by Sotomayor and Kennedy, for two. The effect of Harvard/Yale is much more profound. The echo chamber and disconnect with average Americans are great.

:-)

Resist We Much on June 25, 2013 at 1:39 PM

So if you pass all the voter ID laws you want and Democrats win national elections will you quite your complaining?

libfreeordie on June 25, 2013 at 11:14 AM

I think the real question is: if “we” pass all the voter ID laws “we” want and Democrats win national elections, will you quit your complaining?

The Schaef on June 25, 2013 at 1:46 PM

rogerb on June 25, 2013 at 1:23 PM

 
Great! So George Soros gets more votes than all of us!
 
You’re a genius.
 
Same would go for Cher, John Cougar, Barbara Streisand, etc.
 
Absolutely great idea boss.
 
/s
 
HondaV65 on June 25, 2013 at 1:34 PM

 
Individually yes, if they pay more taxes than you.
 
You, in turn, would potentially get double the vote that a welfare recipient gets, assuming you’re not a welfare recipient.
 
And if you are, you still get one vote.
 
You read it as collectively though, didn’t you?
 
Please re-read for clarity and not emotion. Especially the part about 25% and $25 and A/B shares.
 

Great! So George Soros gets more votes than all of us!

 
No, wait, re-read especially the part where I suggested 10 as a maximum:
 

One vote per person, with more votes allowed for increased tax liability up to X maximum votes per taxpayer. I’d need more data to decide, but I’m leaning towards 10 for that number.

 
But, mostly, please try to keep up. We can’t continually stop the discussion down to bring you up to speed.

rogerb on June 25, 2013 at 1:47 PM

Great! So George Soros gets more votes than all of us!

You’re a genius.

Same would go for Cher, John Cougar, Barbara Streisand, etc.

Absolutely great idea boss.

/s

HondaV65 on June 25, 2013 at 1:34 PM

A jackass Obama voter like you should be all for that.

slickwillie2001 on June 25, 2013 at 2:03 PM

So if you pass all the voter ID laws you want and Democrats win national elections will you quite your complaining?

libfreeordie on June 25, 2013 at 11:14 AM

I don’t care who wins. I do care that noncitizens are voting in our elections.

alwaysfiredup on June 25, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Oh dear, the Democratic fishing trawler lost part of a minor ingredient today.

Presidents Reagan and Bush both signed off to extend this foul piece of left wing bait.

One minor reason why I go back to Senator Goldwater to find something like a real conservative.

IlikedAUH2O on June 25, 2013 at 2:08 PM

I don’t care who wins. I do care that noncitizens are voting in our elections.

alwaysfiredup on June 25, 2013 at 2:05 PM

I care who wins.

IlikedAUH2O on June 25, 2013 at 2:09 PM

Resist We Much on June 25, 2013 at 1:39 PM

IIRC, Rehnquist and O’Connor both went to Stanford Law, which is sometimes referred to as the “Harvard of the West.” (Of course, Stanford refers to Harvard as the “Stanford of the East.”)

Wethal on June 25, 2013 at 2:15 PM

I care who wins.

IlikedAUH2O on June 25, 2013 at 2:09 PM

I realize I phrased that poorly. Yes, I care who wins elections generally. I don’t favor asking for identification because it will help a party; I care because only citizens should be voting in our elections and a lot of noncitizens are voting.

alwaysfiredup on June 25, 2013 at 2:16 PM

Can they also declare it unconstitutional to go out and round up as many low info and disinterested voters as possible and take them to the polls? I don’t want someone who isn’t informed, who probably can’t name the Speaker of the House or even the VP, to vote, period. If you can’t be bothered to pay attention and be invested in the decisions made for you, and get to the polls yourself (the sick and infirm excluded, natch), then you don’t belong in a voting booth.

changer1701 on June 25, 2013 at 2:23 PM

changer1701 on June 25, 2013 at 2:23 PM

The constitution does not require that voters be educated. It’s the right of every citizen to cast a vote.

alwaysfiredup on June 25, 2013 at 2:24 PM

How about a spelling test?
Oldnuke on June 25, 2013 at 11:20 AM

Perhaps poker’s just not your game, Ike.

tommyboy on June 25, 2013 at 12:37 PM

I learned to spell a long time ago in “Shool” Monty.

Oldnuke on June 25, 2013 at 2:28 PM

SCOTUS puts an end to US equivalent of Les Misérables

J_Crater on June 25, 2013 at 2:31 PM

So if China had enough airplanes, and a Chinese candidate here, they could fly in as many people it will take to let that person win? Please correct me if I am totally confused. I probably am.

johnnyU on June 25, 2013 at 2:40 PM

So if you pass all the voter ID laws you want and Democrats win national elections will you quite your complaining? Or will you move to requiring a property owners only test? Or a college graduate test?

libfreeordie on June 25, 2013 at 11:14 AM

What a *crazy* statement, lib.

At this point……..Democrats wouldn’t win any elections if the laws were changedFOLLOWED.

avagreen on June 25, 2013 at 1:04 PM

FIFY

CapnObvious on June 25, 2013 at 2:43 PM

So Eric Holder’s incompetence and stupidity for once has helped us? Funny how that works out.

slickwillie2001 on June 25, 2013 at 12:51 PM

Oh, I think his incompetence is helping us out a lot in the long term. We won’t see immediate results, but there is a whole generation of children growing up right now that will link Democrats and the nightmare Holder has created on various fronts as corrupt government.

Those children will grow up and view Democrats just as badly as they do Republicans. It helps even the future out for us.

ButterflyDragon on June 25, 2013 at 2:49 PM

Good! We don’t need all those laws about cleaning up after your horse or limiting the length of your buggy whip, either.

Knott Buyinit on June 25, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Polls in black and Hispanic precincts will soon be open from 7:00AM – 7:20AM. lol

stingray9813

It’s funny cause your party hates black people! hahaha

Mmm...Burritos on June 25, 2013 at 3:12 PM

It’s funny cause your party hates black people! hahaha

Mmm…Burritos on June 25, 2013 at 3:12 PM

Says the lying bigot.

Every black (and Hispanic) person that I know don’t care that much about Dems, but I live in Texas, where my black brother-in-law would call you a d**n fool.

avagreen on June 25, 2013 at 3:21 PM

I learned to spell a long time ago in “Shool” Monty.
Oldnuke on June 25, 2013 at 2:28 PM

The line wasn’t directed at you. I was just quoting a line from the movie “Tombstone” which accompanied Doc Holliday’s challenge to Ike Clanton for a spelling contest. It seemed somehow apropos.

tommyboy on June 25, 2013 at 3:48 PM

Polls in black and Hispanic precincts will soon be open from 7:00AM – 7:20AM. lol

Why should that be a problem? After all, you Lefties have gotten pretty good at stuffing ballot boxes with fake votes – twenty minutes should be plenty of time.

Furthermore, when all else fails, you can always count on a Lefty judge giving you more time to find numerous “misplaced” ballot boxes in your offices or the trunks of your cars.

rvastar on June 25, 2013 at 3:55 PM

Polls in black and Hispanic precincts will soon be open from 7:00AM – 7:20AM. lol

stingray9813 on June 25, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Black and Hispanic precincts are managed overwhelmingly by democratics. Republicans have a h of a time even getting observers in. Little wonder some of them in Philadelphia voted 100.00% for the REB.

Any voting problems in those precincts is always due to democratics’ own incompetence.

Dumbass.

slickwillie2001 on June 25, 2013 at 4:04 PM

It’s funny cause your party hates black people! hahaha
 
Mmm…Burritos on June 25, 2013 at 3:12 PM

 
That reminds me, I heard ALT got unbanned.

rogerb on June 25, 2013 at 4:14 PM

It’s funny cause your party hates black people! hahaha

Mmm…3 Week Old Refried Beans on June 25, 2013 at 3:12 PM

Your fellow Democrat Paula Deen just called. Your dinner is ready.

Care to discuss this additional example of Democrat Racism?

A Democratic lawmaker from Minnesota criticized Tuesday’s Supreme Court decision on the Voting Rights Act by calling Justice Clarence Thomas “Uncle Thomas,” then saying he didn’t know “Uncle Tom” was a racist epithet.

On his Twitter account Tuesday, state Rep. Ryan Winkler called the justices’ 5-4 ruling striking down a part of the law racist, and the work of “four accomplices to race discrimination and one Uncle Thomas.” Justice Thomas, who is black, was one of the five justices in the majority.

Yet another example of why your Democrat Party lost the college graduate vote in 2012.

F-

Del Dolemonte on June 25, 2013 at 4:32 PM

Obama won 100% of the vote in 59 Philly precincts and 9 Cleveland precincts, but, obviously, no one there thinks that they need Section 5 of the VRA because of racial discrimination.

Those are just two examples.

Resist We Much on June 25, 2013 at 12:24 PM

A point I haven’t seen raised since these facts escaped the plantation….

The people running these precincts did this vote fraud so blatantly that it couldn’t be missed. There is no way Romney didn’t get a single vote in those 59 precincts, and we all know it. But announce this finding to any….ANY….leftist and you’ll get a big fat ho hum.

They know it. They agree it’s happenning. But as long as it benefits democrats, they don’t care. Every instance of voter fraud in this country is being perpetrated by leftists, they’re doing it right out where everyone can see it, and they know for a fact they will never face consequences for it.

These examples were so blatant, I would further submit that they did it knowing it would be reported, and wanting that very thing. And nothing will be done about it. They are essentially daring us to complain, knowing it will do us no good whatsoever.

My evidence? Is anyone even bothering to investigate this? Of course not. That would be racist, ya see.

runawayyyy on June 25, 2013 at 4:43 PM

One vote per person, with more votes allowed for increased tax liability up to X maximum votes per taxpayer. I’d need more data to decide, but I’m leaning towards 10 for that number.
 
rogerb on June 25, 2013 at 1:23 PM

 
Great! So George Soros gets more votes than all of us!
 
You’re a genius.
 
Same would go for Cher, John Cougar, Barbara Streisand, etc.
 
Absolutely great idea boss.
 
/s
 
HondaV65 on June 25, 2013 at 1:34 PM

 
But, mostly, please try to keep up. We can’t continually stop the discussion down to bring you up to speed.
 
rogerb on June 25, 2013 at 1:47 PM

 
Get it figured out yet, boss?

rogerb on June 25, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Many of my tolerant Democrat friends today have been proudly posting a Photoshopped picture of the SCOTUS Justices on their Facebook pages. The five Justices-including Clarence Thomas-are wearing KKK Hoods.

It’s funny cause your party hates black people! hahaha

Mmm…Burritos on June 25, 2013 at 3:12 PM

Del Dolemonte on June 25, 2013 at 5:06 PM

so there ya have it kids…. it’s unconstitutional…. nut’n like a court that lets illegal act hang around for 50 years…. that’s some johnny on the spot justice……

thank gawd a constitutional wiz kid like Barry could make the system see it’s error… oh yeah… that’s right…..never mind

roflmmfao

donabernathy on June 25, 2013 at 5:08 PM

And once again, Holder has proven just how incompetent he is. He should have left it alone. But noooooo…. just had to keep poking the sleeping tiger.

Democrats have no one to blame but Holder for this ruling. They pushed it and pushed it and now they lost.

ButterflyDragon on June 25, 2013 at 12:41 PM

Obama et al. may give us a favorable Recess Appointment ruling as well, by abusing the “unwritten rules” too blatantly.

AesopFan on June 25, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Polls in black and Hispanic precincts will soon be open from 7:00AM – 7:20AM. lol

stingray9813 on June 25, 2013 at 12:31 PM

Yes, but only if you bring the special tax form, your $50 fee, and show your holographic ID card, available only at NRA offices in cracker neighborhoods.

Welcome to the Brave New World of racist Whitey Oppression Voting Rules. You Asians, blacks, Mexicans and the like just keep on walkin’.

Jaibones on June 25, 2013 at 6:02 PM

When Supremes throw out antiquated voting law: OMG!!!

SouthernGent on June 25, 2013 at 6:48 PM

When Supremes throw out antiquated marriage: YAY!!!!!!

SouthernGent on June 25, 2013 at 6:49 PM

The line wasn’t directed at you. I was just quoting a line from the movie “Tombstone” which accompanied Doc Holliday’s challenge to Ike Clanton for a spelling contest. It seemed somehow apropos.

tommyboy on June 25, 2013 at 3:48 PM

I’m familiar with that line but I thought you were making some reference to an alleged encounter between Eisenhower and Montgomery.

Eisenhower “We should check our schedules and set up a poker game Monty.”

Montgomery “Schedules, schedules? Oh you mean shedules. Wherever did you learn to speak Ike?

Eisenhower “Shool”.

Don’t know if it really happened or not but I always liked the story.

Oldnuke on June 25, 2013 at 9:08 PM

Racist.

RedNewEnglander on June 25, 2013 at 9:11 PM

That reminds me, I heard ALT got unbanned.

rogerb on June 25, 2013 at 4:14 PM

Saw her post something on another thread earlier today. Don’t recall which one but looks like she’s back.

Oldnuke on June 25, 2013 at 9:11 PM

Knott Buyinit on June 25, 2013 at 2:59 PM

Well said. It is about darned time the we cleaned up the hundreds of anachronistic civil rights laws on our books. They served their purpose. They’re no longer needed and in fact they exist now only to preserve punitive measures on innocents. The racial grievance industrial complex has long outlived any usefulness it had.

MJBrutus on June 26, 2013 at 5:15 AM

Absolutely great idea boss.
 
/s
 
HondaV65 on June 25, 2013 at 1:34 PM

 
But, mostly, please try to keep up. We can’t continually stop the discussion down to bring you up to speed.
 
rogerb on June 25, 2013 at 1:47 PM

 
Get it figured out yet, boss?
 
rogerb on June 25, 2013 at 4:57 PM

 
Any luck yet, boss?

rogerb on June 26, 2013 at 7:16 AM

Absolutely great idea boss.
 
/s
 
HondaV65 on June 25, 2013 at 1:34 PM

 
But, mostly, please try to keep up. We can’t continually stop the discussion down to bring you up to speed.
 
rogerb on June 25, 2013 at 1:47 PM

 
Get it figured out yet, boss?
 
rogerb on June 25, 2013 at 4:57 PM

 
Any luck yet, boss?
 
rogerb on June 26, 2013 at 7:16 AM

 
Boss?

rogerb on June 27, 2013 at 6:53 AM

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