It’s come to this… Pelosi booed at Netroots Nation

posted at 2:01 pm on June 23, 2013 by Jazz Shaw

Before you ask, I know what you’re thinking. “Wait… they’re still having Nutroots Nation?” Apparently so. And as a featured speaker, they trotted out former Speaker of the House, Nancy Pelosi. Generally a crowd pleaser with the progressive universe, Pelosi wound up getting a bit cooler reception than she’s likely used to during the Q&A portion of the event.

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi was booed by progressive activists Saturday for defending President Obama on the NSA’s surveillance programs and suggesting that alleged leaker Edward Snowden broke the law…

As Pelosi was saying the country needs a “balance” between security and privacy, Marc Perkel, a 57-year-old activist from Gilroy, Calif., started shouting at Pelosi during her answer and was escorted out of the room.

“It’s not a balance. It’s not constitutional!” he yelled. “No secret laws!”

Others in the room began shouting as well, saying things like “Leave him alone!” or “That’s what a police state looks like right there!”

Wow. I haven’t heard the “police state” line broken out in quite a while. Seems like it must have been… oh, I don’t know. Five years or so at least. And it’s certainly not the type of hot public loving that Pelosi has grown used to when preaching to the Liberal choir. But there was at least one thing that they could all agree on. This is still nothing like life under George W. No sir. No way. No how.

Speaking in a wide-ranging Q&A session at this year’s Netroots Nation conference, Pelosi said it’s unfair to equate Obama and former President George W. Bush on the issue of surveillance.

“People on the far right are saying oh, this is the fourth term of President Bush,” the California Democrat said. “Absolutely, positively not so.”

I do find it interesting that Pelosi has found a stalking horse to test out in terms of laying blame for the entire Snowden affair. She’s citing the “vast outsourcing of government programs to contractors” as the reason that the wheels are coming off the cart. Not that the government is screwing up in any way shape or form, mind you, but that big mouth contractors are talking out of school. I’m not sure how much water that particular story holds, though, given that we’ve been using contractors at very high levels on sensitive programs for at least the majority of my adult life. (And probably before as well.)

But hey… the Democrats wanted to be in charge and now they are. And when you put on the big hat and grab the reins, things like this are going to happen. It’s a lot harder to actually do the job than to sit back in the cheap seats and kvetch about it. But on the plus side, Nancy has always been a big fan of unfettered free speech, and she got an earful of it at Netroots Nation. Enjoy.


Related Posts:

Breaking on Hot Air

Blowback

Note from Hot Air management: This section is for comments from Hot Air's community of registered readers. Please don't assume that Hot Air management agrees with or otherwise endorses any particular comment just because we let it stand. A reminder: Anyone who fails to comply with our terms of use may lose their posting privilege.

Trackbacks/Pings

Trackback URL

Comments

I’ll bet her face hasn’t cracked in surprise since the “You lie!” shout to Obama at SOTU.

Wethal on June 23, 2013 at 2:04 PM

What a picture…
Throw a shoe at her and watch it disappear..

Electrongod on June 23, 2013 at 2:05 PM

Nancy-poo isn’t used to hostile crowds. Her handlers usually make sure everyone is friendly.

GarandFan on June 23, 2013 at 2:06 PM

I love it! LOL

Liam on June 23, 2013 at 2:07 PM

The leftist azzholes have figured out that obama is “Bushhitler” on steroids.

It’s funny to see the likes of Pelosi trying to convince them that obama is better.

The Snowden story topped her b/s manifold.

Schadenfreude on June 23, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Throw a shoe at her and watch it disappear..

Electrongod on June 23, 2013 at 2:05 PM

bucket of water. “I’m mellllllting!”

Wethal on June 23, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Thread-winner at the Politico comments section was the very first one, which generated hundreds of responses.

Quick! Throw a bucket of water on her.

Del Dolemonte on June 23, 2013 at 2:08 PM

I am sure whoever heckled Nancy is in Gitmo now…..

redguy on June 23, 2013 at 2:08 PM

“When the audience applauds, they’re being polite.
But if they boo you – They. Mean. It.”
– Jackie Gleason

Didn’t look like Nancy realized this.

TimBuk3 on June 23, 2013 at 2:10 PM

Wow, she really looks creepy in that pic…

OmahaConservative on June 23, 2013 at 2:11 PM

I am sure whoever heckled Nancy is in Gitmo now…..

redguy on June 23, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Well, at least the IRS is checking their tax returns.

Wethal on June 23, 2013 at 2:11 PM

Nancy probably had a wistful moment or two when she wished at this moment the Republicans were still running things, so she could be down in the Netroots crowd joining in the booing.

jon1979 on June 23, 2013 at 2:11 PM

In other news, flocks of pigs were sighted over Washington D.C. They appear to be circling over the Capitol while relieving themselves.

platypus on June 23, 2013 at 2:12 PM

“When the audience applauds, they’re being polite.
But if they boo you – They. Mean. It.”
– Jackie Gleason

Didn’t look like Nancy realized this.

TimBuk3 on June 23, 2013 at 2:10 PM

I so have to remember that!

Liam on June 23, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Del Dolemonte on June 23, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Read some. LOL

“Watch out, here come the flying monkeys.”

“They’re called drones now.”

Wethal on June 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM

I saw this at a carnival..
I had to shoot a water gun from 20 feet and fill it up before the timer ran out…

Electrongod on June 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Wow, she really looks creepy in that pic

OmahaConservative on June 23, 2013 at 2:11 PM

FIFY

SoRight on June 23, 2013 at 2:19 PM

“People on the far right are saying oh, this is the fourth term of President Bush,” the California Democrat said. “Absolutely, positively not so.”

Oh yeah, that’s right. Bush used the IRS, DOJ etc. to…Oh, wait! Civil liberties don’t apply to anyone who disagrees with progressive utopian visions. These learning disabled morons will never get that it doesn’t work that way. No amount of historical examples or common sense will ever penetrate their thick skulls.

RadClown on June 23, 2013 at 2:20 PM

“People on the far right are saying oh, this is the fourth term of President Bush,” the California Democrat said. “Absolutely, positively not so.”

Jimmy Millhouse Walker (43) Obama.

nobar on June 23, 2013 at 2:23 PM

“People on the far right are saying oh, this is the fourth term of President Bush,” the California Democrat said. “Absolutely, positively not so.”

It’s much, much worse.

There’s lots to quibble with about W. but he was a decent, honorable man.

rbj on June 23, 2013 at 2:23 PM

The picture of Nutroots morons and Nancy Pelosi together in a room brings to mind a similar thought: chimps flinging poop at each other in a cage.

Decoski on June 23, 2013 at 2:23 PM

“People on the far right are saying oh, this is the fourth term of President Bush,” the California Democrat said.

LOL. This is what the idiot leftists are saying, not the right.

Bush went to Congress for his wars. He only tapped foreign terror suspects and their calls that came into the US to get into contact with their treasonous allies – like Nazi Pelousi and Barky and the rest of the leftist scumbag traitors. Bush allowed the WaPo and NY Slimes to actually reveal important and sensitive classified info (not this sort of cr@p that Snowden revealed, which had nothing to do with national security, at all) without even thinking of pursuing them for espionage or treason – which was one of Bush’s bigger mistakes.

Barky took what Bush did and, just like mohammed did, perverted it, distroted it, abused it, and then claimed that Bush was a liar because Bush didn’t abuse things the way Barky now does. It is very reminiscent of how mo plagiarized and perverted the Torah and New Testament and then called Jews and Christians liars because the original texts differed from mo’s distorted copy done hundreds of years after the New Testament and thousands of years after the Torah – though muzzies like Barky growing up learned that the Torah is a bad copy of the koran … LOL.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 23, 2013 at 2:24 PM

Chimps flinging poo in a cage comes to mind.

Decoski on June 23, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Wow. I haven’t heard the “police state” line broken out in quite a while. Seems like it must have been… oh, I don’t know. Five years or so at least.

But, this comes close…

‘We are an authoritarian surveillance state.’

- Paul Krugman, ABC’s This Week, 9 June 2013

Give him time. ‘Police State’ will just gently roll off of his tongue any day now.

Resist We Much on June 23, 2013 at 2:27 PM

“People on the far right are saying oh, this is the fourth term of President Bush,” the California Democrat said. “Absolutely, positively not so.”

Name one.

Resist We Much on June 23, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Chimps flinging poo in a cage comes to mind.

Decoski on June 23, 2013 at 2:27 PM

Chimps are more civilized than liberals.

Liam on June 23, 2013 at 2:30 PM

Well, its about time the “progressive” leadership realizes their “activists” are idiots.

Here is a hypothesis of mine:

50% of the people are of below the median intelligence level.
50% of the people are above the median in emotional response to things.

The people who tend to be on the left side of the first bell curve tend to be on the right side of the second. In other words, people of lower intelligence seem to be more emotionally driven.

The most vociferous “activists” of any sort, conservative, liberal, libertarian, tend to be more emotionally driven, good at rousing the emotions of others, but generally aren’t very bright.

Nutroots was a gathering of “activists”. There was a surplus of emotionally driven people there. These are the kinds of people who make up plausible scenarios that “fit” and run with them as “truth”. We see that a lot these days with the whole Snowden thing. People actually believe NSA is really listening to THEIR phone calls because they apparently believe they are important enough for NSA to want to listen to. Look, they don’t have enough employees to listen to everyone’s phone calls. It would take them years just to get through a day’s worth.

Willian Binney is a perfect example. In his most famous line of baloney he starts off with the speculation that the purpose of the new data center being built in Utah is storage of everyone’s communications in the US and then goes on to extrapolate from that speculation how much they could store there and so on, but it is all based on an initial speculation as to the purpose of it. Well, maybe he’s wrong. And he leaves out an important detail in his speculations: backup. He would have to cut his estimate in half because there would need to be a backup copy of everything. But hey, maybe that isn’t the purpose of it at all. Maybe it is just a big data center for general use by many government agencies that is secured by NSA to prevent countries like China from hacking into them. Who knows, but the point is that a lot of the scare stories are based on speculation and then extrapolation from that speculation and then maybe further speculation on top of the extrapolation. It’s crazy.

I even see it in Snowden’s remarks where he is aware of something he has no access to and has never used and then speculates on the capabilities of it.

Does NSA collect information on citizens? Probably. But probably only at the direction of FBI. THAT is where the danger lies, in my opinion. Even the FISA warrant requesting data be turned over to NSA was requested by FBI. I do not trust the Justice Department. I don’t trust Eric Holder. I trust NSA more than I trust Justice.

In the case of monitoring citizens, they are going to do that only at the direction/approval of FBI, in my opinion. They have only a limited number of employees and resources. Their primary mission is the rest of the world outside the US that has 20 times the population of the US. They aren’t going to waste their resources in idle curiosity of my phone calls while people from China attempt to break in to our networks and steal data from industry and government. They have their hands full with a larger mission and any time spent looking at US citizens inside the US is a distraction unless those persons are actively engage in something that is a threat to the US.

You look at “requests for user information” for 10,000 Facebook users. Sounds awful. Then you learn that the vast majority came from local law enforcement, not the federal government. Then you learn that North American (Canada, US, Mexico) users account for less than 1/3 of Facebook’s users. Some guy from Syria or Pakistan or Nigeria’s account could be living on the same server as yours. Facebook has a billion monthly active users.

Nearly all of the speculation I have seen about NSA has in every case left out the important detail that their primary mission is GLOBAL. They don’t have the resources to monitor every single communication of Americans AND pay attention to what is going on outside the country at the same time. I guess people like to feel they are important, and some are more paranoid than others, but please. What *I* worry more about is Justice Department getting their hands on that metadata from Verizon, finding out who various “Tea Party” activists are talking to, and handing that information to DNC headquarters in Chicago. I don’t believe NSA would do that, but I believe the Justice Department would.

crosspatch on June 23, 2013 at 2:34 PM

I never thought I would see the day Nanzi would get heckled,In her own backyard too.Just goes to show how the Democratzi Party has evolved.

jeffinsjvca on June 23, 2013 at 2:38 PM

Boo Boo

Now she’s booed at HA

faraway on June 23, 2013 at 2:39 PM

She needs a LOT more than insults and questions thrown at her.

xmanvietnam on June 23, 2013 at 2:50 PM

Memo to Marc Perkel and Nancy Pelosi:

Keep in mind that all of your e-mails, web browsing and telephone records are sitting on some computer hard drive somewhere. All it takes is some activist inside the NSA or government contracting firm to have a bad hair day and decide to release all of your data to the public.

Now, sit down, shut up, and obey your liberal overlords in the White House.

MichaelGabriel on June 23, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Del Dolemonte on June 23, 2013 at 2:08 PM

Read some. LOL

“Watch out, here come the flying monkeys.”

“They’re called drones now.”

Wethal on June 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM

Speaking of drones, the Taliban murdered 9 foreign mountaineers overnight as they slept in their tents at the base of Nanga Parbat, the 9th tallest mountain in the world. One of them was an American climber.

They later issued a statement that the murders were a response to Dear Leader’s Drone War.

The Adults Are in Charge.

Del Dolemonte on June 23, 2013 at 3:01 PM

ell, its about time the “progressive” leadership realizes their “activists” are idiots.

Here is a hypothesis of mine:

50% of the people are of below the median intelligence level.
50% of the people are above the median in emotional response to things.

The people who tend to be on the left side of the first bell curve tend to be on the right side of the second. In other words, people of lower intelligence seem to be more emotionally driven.

The most vociferous “activists” of any sort, conservative, liberal, libertarian, tend to be more emotionally driven, good at rousing the emotions of others, but generally aren’t very bright.

Nutroots was a gathering of “activists”. There was a surplus of emotionally driven people there. These are the kinds of people who make up plausible scenarios that “fit” and run with them as “truth”. We see that a lot these days with the whole Snowden thing. People actually believe NSA is really listening to THEIR phone calls because they apparently believe they are important enough for NSA to want to listen to. Look, they don’t have enough employees to listen to everyone’s phone calls. It would take them years just to get through a day’s worth.

Willian Binney is a perfect example. In his most famous line of baloney he starts off with the speculation that the purpose of the new data center being built in Utah is storage of everyone’s communications in the US and then goes on to extrapolate from that speculation how much they could store there and so on, but it is all based on an initial speculation as to the purpose of it. Well, maybe he’s wrong. And he leaves out an important detail in his speculations: backup. He would have to cut his estimate in half because there would need to be a backup copy of everything. But hey, maybe that isn’t the purpose of it at all. Maybe it is just a big data center for general use by many government agencies that is secured by NSA to prevent countries like China from hacking into them. Who knows, but the point is that a lot of the scare stories are based on speculation and then extrapolation from that speculation and then maybe further speculation on top of the extrapolation. It’s crazy.

I even see it in Snowden’s remarks where he is aware of something he has no access to and has never used and then speculates on the capabilities of it.

Does NSA collect information on citizens? Probably. But probably only at the direction of FBI. THAT is where the danger lies, in my opinion. Even the FISA warrant requesting data be turned over to NSA was requested by FBI. I do not trust the Justice Department. I don’t trust Eric Holder. I trust NSA more than I trust Justice.

In the case of monitoring citizens, they are going to do that only at the direction/approval of FBI, in my opinion. They have only a limited number of employees and resources. Their primary mission is the rest of the world outside the US that has 20 times the population of the US. They aren’t going to waste their resources in idle curiosity of my phone calls while people from China attempt to break in to our networks and steal data from industry and government. They have their hands full with a larger mission and any time spent looking at US citizens inside the US is a distraction unless those persons are actively engage in something that is a threat to the US.

You look at “requests for user information” for 10,000 Facebook users. Sounds awful. Then you learn that the vast majority came from local law enforcement, not the federal government. Then you learn that North American (Canada, US, Mexico) users account for less than 1/3 of Facebook’s users. Some guy from Syria or Pakistan or Nigeria’s account could be living on the same server as yours. Facebook has a billion monthly active users.

Nearly all of the speculation I have seen about NSA has in every case left out the important detail that their primary mission is GLOBAL. They don’t have the resources to monitor every single communication of Americans AND pay attention to what is going on outside the country at the same time. I guess people like to feel they are important, and some are more paranoid than others, but please. What *I* worry more about is Justice Department getting their hands on that metadata from Verizon, finding out who various “Tea Party” activists are talking to, and handing that information to DNC headquarters in Chicago. I don’t believe NSA would do that, but I believe the Justice Department would.

crosspatch on June 23, 2013 at 2:34 PM

IOW, lalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalalala

davidk on June 23, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Saw another article about how White the Netroots Nation gathering was. How un-progressive of them, or are they getting back to their roots?

slickwillie2001 on June 23, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Pelosihitler

Philly on June 23, 2013 at 3:28 PM

“It’s not a balance. It’s not constitutional!”

One problem with these nutrotters is they see the Constitution as a smorgasbord.

locomotivebreath1901 on June 23, 2013 at 3:30 PM

Saw another article about how White the Netroots Nation gathering was. How un-progressive of them, or are they getting back to their roots?

slickwillie2001 on June 23, 2013 at 3:26 PM

libfreeordie could not be reached for comment.

Del Dolemonte on June 23, 2013 at 3:30 PM

She still hasn’t gotten over that time when someone dropped a house on her sister.

merlich on June 23, 2013 at 3:32 PM

I love myself
I want you to love me
When I’m feelin’ down
I want you above me
I search myself
I want you to find me
I forget myself
I want you to remind me

I don’t want anybody else
When I think about you
I touch myself
I don’t want anybody else
Oh no, oh no, oh no

J_Crater on June 23, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Saw another article about how White the Netroots Nation gathering was. How un-progressive of them, or are they getting back to their roots?

slickwillie2001 on June 23, 2013 at 3:26 PM

Instapundit compared it to MSNBC’s host line-up of similar persons of pallor.

Wethal on June 23, 2013 at 3:45 PM

One problem with these nutrotters is they see the Constitution as a smorgasbord.

locomotivebreath1901 on June 23, 2013 at 3:30 PM

You mean an “a La Carte menu”. They think they can pick and choose what parts they want and ignore the rest.

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 23, 2013 at 4:01 PM

Oh how I love seeing these desperate Dems coming apart at the seams. I would enjoy it more but they are taking us all down with them. Once again these libs are booing her for not being radical enough. This country is seriously divided.

neyney on June 23, 2013 at 4:15 PM

locomotivebreath1901 on June 23, 2013 at 3:30 PM

I guess “smorgasbord” works in that way, too. It just makes it sound as if the lefties are really choosing huge swaths of the Constitution when they only pick one or two specific pieces to cite (and then pervert them, on top of it). This is why lefties like to say that the Constitution is a “charter of negative liberties” (which it most definitely is NOT). They consider the Constitution to be nothing but one or two amendments and even with those amendments they only think they are to be applied in very special cases and only at very special times (to support leftist treason, perversion, or a fundamental deformation of society).

ThePrimordialOrderedPair on June 23, 2013 at 4:18 PM

http://www.netrootsnation.org/nn13-recap-ask-the-leader :

She also spoke about the NSA, security, and obstructionist politicians.
Then a man in the crowd stood up and heckled the Leader, pushing back on what she was saying.
Pelosi continued to speak, moving past the distraction.

Nothing to see here, move along.

Kenosha Kid on June 23, 2013 at 4:23 PM

Did those hippies hipsters really stop smoking their bongs long enough to realize what’s happening in America? Really?

madmonkphotog on June 23, 2013 at 4:36 PM

“People on the far right are saying oh, this is the fourth term of President Bush,” the California Democrat said. “Absolutely, positively not so.”

That’s true.

We were still a free people under George Bush.

Solaratov on June 23, 2013 at 4:51 PM

What makes this so delicious is the fact that most of those Nutroots actually operated under the delusion that 0bama would end the warrantless wiretapping, rather than expand it. Who cares if we on the right are late conversions to the right to privacy. Those same people screeching about privacy five years ago are now trying to justify surveillance.

Sekhmet on June 23, 2013 at 5:15 PM

She needs more than a BOO. She needs a damn punch in her FISH FACE.

TX-96 on June 23, 2013 at 5:22 PM

What I find interesting about this story, reported by both Politico and The Hill, is that neither were able to obtain, or post, video of the booing and heckling. This was a “Net” gathering, no. Of supposedly tech-savvy Dems? Yet the “investigative reporters” of Politico and The Hill couldn’t ferret out video of what happened?

Ahem.

Thank you.
Cold Warrior
theprecinctproject.wordpress.com

Cold Warrior on June 23, 2013 at 5:40 PM

I’m amazed they could find a liberal in Gilroy. That used to be exclusive goat-roper country down there.

trigon on June 23, 2013 at 6:09 PM

…she’s Biden in a dress!

KOOLAID2 on June 23, 2013 at 6:41 PM

This would seem to be Mr. Perkel’s blog:
http://gilroy.patch.com/blogs/marc-perkels-blog
here he explains why he heckled the Leader:
http://gilroy.patch.com/groups/marc-perkels-blog/p/why-i-confronted-nancy-pelosi-at-netroots-nation-conference,

This administration puts forward a false choice between the liberties we cherish and the security we provide. We can provide our intelligence and law enforcement agencies the tools they need to track and take out the terrorists without undermining our Constitution and our freedom.

and a video link to an interview
http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2013/06/22/democrats-push-back-on-nsa-spying/
where he articulates the massive cognitive dissonance in the Party.

Kenosha Kid on June 23, 2013 at 6:56 PM

From somebody that gets great joy from baiting those far left bloggers that spew hatred and advocate killing anybody that disagrees with them (hiding behind fake names), I have concluded that they are more upset than anybody on this issue. As a conservative, I always suspected that anything discussed on-line was being monitored. Not that that changed what I ever wrote since conservatives can discuss/debate without getting into that stuff.

teejk on June 23, 2013 at 7:30 PM

The leftist azzholes have figured out that obama is “Bushhitler” on steroids.

It’s funny to see the likes of Pelosi trying to convince them that obama is better.

The Snowden story topped her b/s manifold.

Schadenfreude on June 23, 2013 at 2:07 PM

Most are still trying to deny it to themselves… at least the ones I know.

And Cheney’s name has been coming up a lot since the NSA story broke big a couple weeks ago. I think it’s a defensive mechanism.

I have taken to being very short and direct with my digs… It’s like water torture: mention politics and get a stab in the heart (i.e. ‘Obama’s a Dictator’), they go baste in it… repeat a few days later.

RalphyBoy on June 23, 2013 at 7:31 PM

I saw this at a carnival..
I had to shoot a water gun from 20 feet and fill it up before the timer ran out…

Electrongod on June 23, 2013 at 2:14 PM

O.K…thats funny right there. + :)

Mimzey on June 23, 2013 at 7:31 PM

We have met the enemy and she is us!
Snicker

faol on June 23, 2013 at 8:37 PM

No worries the IRS is on the case.

This is a police state.

petunia on June 23, 2013 at 10:15 PM

vast outsourcing of government programs to contractors

That is a silly statement. Since it came from Pelosi, it is hard to know whether it came from ignorance or because she enjoys lying. As an example of Jazz’s comment, I got my first top secret clearance from DOD sixty years ago. I subequently got two other non overlaping top secret clearances from other parts of the government. I was never a government employe. I knew many other non government employes who had such clearances decades before I did.

burt on June 23, 2013 at 11:00 PM

In my earlier comment I should have said fifty years not sixty years.

burt on June 23, 2013 at 11:08 PM

I bet she had to quadruple her anti-anxiety meds after that.

Heh.

Grace_is_sufficient on June 24, 2013 at 6:58 AM

The picture of Nutroots morons and Nancy Pelosi together in a room brings to mind a similar thought: chimps flinging poop at each other in a cage.

Decoski on June 23, 2013 at 2:23 PM

That may be true, but the thought first and foremost in my mind is, “What a perfect location for an rogue asteroid impact”

VelvetElvis on June 24, 2013 at 7:58 AM