Why is the website of Bloomberg’s anti-gun group housed on New York City servers?

posted at 5:51 pm on June 21, 2013 by Allahpundit

In fairness, how else is a man of little means like Mike Bloomberg supposed to foot the bill for servers?

John Ekdahl did all the work here so go read his post laying out the evidence. There’s no question, it seems, that Mayors Against Illegal Guns is being run off of New York City government servers. The question is why. Why does a 501(c)(4) whose most prominent member is one of the world’s richest people need to take a free ride on the taxpayer dime to keep its website running? One obvious possibility is that it’s not free-riding; someone, be it Bloomy or the group itself, is reimbursing the city for its server costs. That’s great, but in that case, why not just contract with a private entity for hosting? Is MAIG getting some sort of break on the cost by parking itself at NYC instead of elsewhere? If so, has the City Council authorized that or did Bloomberg decide unilaterally that it’d be okay because he said so?

Even if the city’s being reimbursed at full cost, MAIG’s getting an opportunity for city-provided hosting that other advocacy groups (particularly pro-gun groups) would surely never have. Which is not to suggest that this is some inescapable problem for Bloomy: The Council will, I’m sure, happily appropriate whatever money’s needed as a grant in order to cover the group’s server costs and maybe pay for the next valediction for Tamerlan Tsarnaev as a victim of gun violence. But I’m curious to know if Bloomberg even tried to do this through proper channels or if he just told his group to go ahead and set up shop there and not worry about it. We’ll see.


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About 8% of the names on MAIG’s victims of gun violence lost are criminals shot by the police or by armed citizens. This group has a lot of credibility issues, besides the fact that many of the mayors who are members are themselves criminals. Maybe the IRS should think about pulling that c4 status.

juliesa on June 21, 2013 at 6:04 PM

Citizens Against Illegal Computer Server Use!

rbj on June 21, 2013 at 6:06 PM

But I’m curious to know if Bloomberg even tried to do this through proper channels or if he just told his group to go ahead and set up shop there and not worry about it.

The Nanny doesn’t get permission from the children. The children get permission from the Nanny.

Everyone knows that.

Curtiss on June 21, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Isn’t using government resources for personal use a crime in NY?

Most employees will be fired for this.

faraway on June 21, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Look, Bloomberg is the king of NYC. When the king tells one of his court to set up a web server, they set up a web server. Bloomberg is a multibillionaire. Are you going to tell him “no”? He can do more to you than the government can. He can buy your house out from under you if you rent with just his “walking around money”. If you own, he can buy the one next door and let vagrants live in it rent free. He can have the cops check your house 12 times a day and give you a ticket if your trash cans are out 1 minute early or taken in 1 minute late. He can order your street torn up and see that there are “delays” in getting it resurfaced. Oh, and maybe the water department needs to dig up the pipes to your house, too.

It generally doesn’t pay for the average Joe to get into a urination contest with hizhonor.

crosspatch on June 21, 2013 at 6:10 PM

If only Bloomberg had enough money to pay Go-Daddy $2.99 a month for hosting, this would not be necessary.

They ought to raise that poor Public Servant’s wages!

Wait…

What?

Bloomberg is a billionaire?

And the head of a huge media conglomerate including a massive internet presence?

Oh.
Nevermind.

LegendHasIt on June 21, 2013 at 6:13 PM

At the very least,it is likely a violation of the City’s ethics policy.

NYC also hosts a page detailing how to file a complaint.

rw on June 21, 2013 at 6:18 PM

What little Napoleon says goes…the audacity to question him is laughable.

d1carter on June 21, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Server leeches are scum.

Capitalist Hog on June 21, 2013 at 6:20 PM

a man of little means like Mike Bloomberg

More like a small man of big means.

Marcola on June 21, 2013 at 6:20 PM

Why is the website of Bloomberg’s anti-gun group housed on New York City servers?

Because liberals are always looking for a freebie.

Liam on June 21, 2013 at 6:23 PM

One obvious possibility is that it’s not free-riding; someone, be it Bloomy or the group itself, is reimbursing the city for its server costs.

OK, that would have shot milk out my nose, if I’d been drinking milk when I read it.

Marcola on June 21, 2013 at 6:23 PM

If only Bloomberg had enough money to pay Go-Daddy $2.99 a month for hosting, this would not be necessary.

If one’s site is hosted at GD you don’t have a website worth visiting. So that would be appropriate choice for Herr Napoleon GunGrab.

Capitalist Hog on June 21, 2013 at 6:26 PM

So are other NYC employees hosting their websites on NYC servers?

Has the IRS investigated any of this? A tax exempt group getting $$$ favors from the government?

albill on June 21, 2013 at 6:28 PM

Isn’t using government resources for personal use a crime in NY?

Most employees will be fired for this.

faraway on June 21, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Yes, they will and he should be too.

dogsoldier on June 21, 2013 at 6:32 PM

Really ? is this surprising at all?

CW on June 21, 2013 at 6:33 PM

And the mayor can be arrested for misappropriation of city resources.

dogsoldier on June 21, 2013 at 6:33 PM

The site is hosted on these NYC servers (paid for by the people of NYC):
VWALL1A.NYC.GOV
VWALL2A.NYC.GOV
VWALL3A.NYC.GOV
VWALL4A.NYC.GOV

The tech email address is:
- hostmaster@nyc.gov (a NYC employee)

The administrator is:
- clong@doitt.nyc.gov (another NYC employee)

The owner who registered this domain name at NSI (an paid for it with NYC funds) is:
- “NYC DoITT”

This has likely been going on since the name was registered on:
- “Created On:24-Apr-2006 19:34:09 UTC”

faraway on June 21, 2013 at 6:33 PM

Nanny Bloomers didn’t get to be a multibillionaire by shelling out his own cash for servers – or anything else.

That sort of thing is for the little people.

Solaratov on June 21, 2013 at 6:34 PM

Capitalist Hog on June 21, 2013 at 6:26 PM

How trite of you, to seek into our good graces after being an abuser of us for so long.

Liam on June 21, 2013 at 6:35 PM

Corrupt.

pat on June 21, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Corrupt.

pat on June 21, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Word association?

Liberals.

Liam on June 21, 2013 at 6:40 PM

OK, that would have shot milk a 32 ounce soda out my nose, if I’d been drinking milk a 32 ounce soda when I read it.

Marcola on June 21, 2013 at 6:23 PM

.
Fixed for nanny state accuracy.

ExpressoBold on June 21, 2013 at 6:51 PM

The left always manages to get government money to help support their causes.

Grunt on June 21, 2013 at 6:53 PM

For extra credit… and bonus points…

I wonder how many mayors across the country are charging these expenses to their city??

faraway on June 21, 2013 at 6:53 PM

The left always manages to get steal government money to help support their causes.

Grunt on June 21, 2013 at 6:53 PM

FIFY

Liam on June 21, 2013 at 6:54 PM

This’ll be a problem in his next election! Oh, wait…

slickwillie2001 on June 21, 2013 at 6:57 PM

Wow. Short, fascist and cheap…

trigon on June 21, 2013 at 7:02 PM

One obvious possibility is that it’s not free-riding; someone, be it Bloomy or the group itself, is reimbursing the city for its server costs.

If they weren’t, they are certainly ginning up the evidence to prove they were.

“I totally was gunna, but my secretary lost the invoice, then the second one got lost in the mail, then the fax machine broke, and I think the e-mail must have sent one to SPAM…”

tdarrington on June 21, 2013 at 7:02 PM

What does server space cost, really? To a billionaire running a billion dollar city, couple gigs of bandwidth, cupa coffee, chump change. Nobody will notice. He will use the same excuse as Obama, and face the same consequences.

tdarrington on June 21, 2013 at 7:06 PM

What does server space cost, really?

tdarrington on June 21, 2013 at 7:06 PM

If you rent space, not much. Maybe 200-300 per month.

However, we are talking about what Bloomie is actually using:
- 4 NYC servers inside a bunker with fiber lines ($100,000/year)
- 2 senior administrators with city pensions ($400,000/year)
- probably a few NYC webmasters as well ($400,000/year)

We could be talking a few million bucks here over the 7 year life span.

faraway on June 21, 2013 at 7:13 PM

Liberals using the government to attack their political opponents… How usual!

RJL on June 21, 2013 at 7:15 PM

What does server space cost, really? To a billionaire running a billion dollar city, couple gigs of bandwidth, cupa coffee, chump change. Nobody will notice. He will use the same excuse as Obama, and face the same consequences.

tdarrington on June 21, 2013 at 7:06 PM

City government greedy-union workers maintaining the equipment will be more of a problem.

slickwillie2001 on June 21, 2013 at 7:20 PM

The left always manages to get government money to help support their causes.

Grunt on June 21, 2013 at 6:53 PM

The left get commercial-free NPR while anyone listening to Limbaugh or Levin gets about 38 minutes of commercials every hour. Hopefully no one at HA is dumb enough to hear Hannity repeat himself for a couple hours a day. The commercials are the best part of Hannity’s show.

bw222 on June 21, 2013 at 7:34 PM

You can ‘rent’ server space, for hosting a website for as little as $1.99 a month.
Depends on what you require. If you need terabytes of storage, and terabytes of bandwith, no shared I.P.s, and all kinds of services like individual SSL certificates etc it is gonna cost more.

I share a server, where I host 15-20 websites with about 100 gigs of data space and use about 30 gigs of bandwidth a month. Costs me $274 a year.

Obviously I don’t stream videos etc. on that kind of bandwidth, but there are a couple popular sites there that get easily as much traffic as Bloomer’s Mayors Against Guns would.

LegendHasIt on June 21, 2013 at 7:38 PM

DOH!

data space and use about 30 gigs of

Left out a 0 Should be 300 gigs

LegendHasIt on June 21, 2013 at 7:41 PM

I have no pity for NYC voters. None. Nada. Nil.

ladyingray on June 21, 2013 at 7:57 PM


>bw222 on June 21, 2013 at 7:34 PM

I hear you. Since I turn the volume down for commercials and forget to turn it back up, I haven’t actually heard Rush say anything except “Be right back” for years.

PersonFromPorlock on June 21, 2013 at 8:03 PM

Isn’t using government resources for personal use a crime in NY?

Most employees will be fired for this.

If they are used by the Left to oppress the rest of us, it is a sacrament.

At the very least,it is likely a violation of the City’s ethics policy.

New York City Government has an ethics policy????

So are other NYC employees hosting their websites on NYC servers?

Has the IRS investigated any of this? A tax exempt group getting $$$ favors from the government?

1) only politically connected ones. 2) see #1, there will be no investigation.

For extra credit… and bonus points…

I wonder how many mayors across the country are charging these expenses to their city??

Every Democrat.

Of course, all these violations and far more are cataloged at the NSA/DOJ/IRS/DHS. And will be protected by the regime with greater energy than they would the nuclear launch codes.

Subotai Bahadur on June 21, 2013 at 8:44 PM

NYC also hosts a page detailing how to file a complaint.

rw on June 21, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Meh, I jsut emailed my Representative asking why the IRS allows left-wing groups to operate like this while suppressing conservative groups.

She won’t do anything, of course (she is a Democrat, after all), but at least she knows that people are watching for what little good it does.

malclave on June 21, 2013 at 9:36 PM

It’s a Jooish thing.

dirtengineer on June 21, 2013 at 10:44 PM

I just drank a 64 ounce big gulp.
Take that you insane little man.

losarkos on June 22, 2013 at 2:36 AM

More like a small man of big means.

Marcola on June 21, 2013 at 6:20 PM

The mayor means well but…..

The God of the Old Testament has no patience for nonsense.

He may have noticed the beloved mayor by now.

We shall see whether validation or travail is coming to the city and the mayor.

Someone should call 7 11 and tell them of the marketing opportunity they are missing by not selling “Big Gulp” cups with the visage of mayor on them.

Or even a full sized body photo!

Photos? Then think on the possibilities if Wiener is elected next!

IlikedAUH2O on June 22, 2013 at 5:52 AM

CORRUPTION

Its also an improper use of STATE and local TAX MONEY.

jackasses!

TX-96 on June 22, 2013 at 6:13 AM

In fairness, how else is a man of little means like Mike Bloomberg supposed to foot the bill for servers?

This is why I read you, AP! Well, the snark and the link-rich depth of analysis.

But yeah, first line, and you’ve already won the Innerwebs!

nukemhill on June 22, 2013 at 9:44 AM

Seriously, though, I don’t think there’s necessarily a smoking gun here.

The site is hosted on these NYC servers (paid for by the people of NYC):
VWALL1A.NYC.GOV
VWALL2A.NYC.GOV
VWALL3A.NYC.GOV
VWALL4A.NYC.GOV

The tech email address is:
- hostmaster@nyc.gov (a NYC employee)

The administrator is:
- clong@doitt.nyc.gov (another NYC employee)

The owner who registered this domain name at NSI (an paid for it with NYC funds) is:
- “NYC DoITT”

This has likely been going on since the name was registered on:
- “Created On:24-Apr-2006 19:34:09 UTC”

faraway on June 21, 2013 at 6:33 PM

But this could still be a co-lo of sorts. The question I have is whether or not there are, in fact, other sites being hosted through this service, and if it’s a fairly standard process for getting up-and-running.

If it’s a truly closed system, and all of the services are being paid for by NYC, and only the “beautiful people” are allowed the privilege, then this is pretty messed up. But if the clients are still paying their own way, even though the system is ostensibly being run by NYC, then it looks kinda wonky, but I don’t think there are any serious issues.

There’s still too much hand waving here. Until we actually see how, or even if, money changed hands and what services are being rendered by whom, there’s no way of knowing how big a deal this is.

nukemhill on June 22, 2013 at 9:57 AM

not only that, but as I tweeted to the author OTHER states/entities utilizing that site/data to push it too.
rico them.

dmacleo on June 22, 2013 at 10:09 AM

Because Bloomberg is a criminal, involved in a criminal conspiracy to rob us of our birthright. Why would a criminal intent on robbing us of our God given rights sweat a petty regulation?

claudius on June 22, 2013 at 10:59 AM

Is anyone logging to these servers? Bueller? Anyone?

Can’t decide which is worse: gun-violence or big-sodas…

Maybe big-sodas cause gun-violence? That must be it!

(I think Bloomberg may be senile and giving way to paranoia – all that soda he drank when he made his money on Wall St)

virgo on June 24, 2013 at 12:11 AM

The site is hosted on these NYC servers (paid for by the people of NYC):
VWALL1A.NYC.GOV
VWALL2A.NYC.GOV
VWALL3A.NYC.GOV
VWALL4A.NYC.GOV

The tech email address is:
hostmaster@nyc.gov (a NYC employee)

The administrator is:
clong@doitt.nyc.gov (another NYC employee)

The owner who registered this domain name at NSI (an paid for it with NYC funds) is:
– “NYC DoITT”

This has likely been going on since the name was registered on:
– “Created On:24-Apr-2006 19:34:09 UTC”

faraway on June 21, 2013 at 6:33 PM

While it appears that the site is hosted on a NYC server, the server names you’ve listed are in reality the DNS (Domain Name Service) servers which resolve an internet name to a specific server’s IP address and/or port if the server is shared.

awc on June 24, 2013 at 8:52 AM