Oh, SNAP: House rejects the farm bill with bipartisan opposition

posted at 3:31 pm on June 20, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

Congressional leaders have lately been trying their darndest to get a new farm bill passed before the current policy expires in September, and earlier this month, the Senate passed their own (terrible, omnibus, status-quo maintaining, special-interest serving) $1 trillion/ten years legislation — a proposal of which the White House approved because of its only infinitesimal cuts to the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (a.k.a., food stamps) that the Obama administration has grown by 70 percent since 2008 alone.

The version that House leaders were looking to pass, however, looked to make somewhat deeper cuts to food stamps (by a whopping three percent of the now almost $80 billion/year program, quelle horreur!) — a move abhorred by many Democrats, and on which the White House issued a very specific veto threat. Plenty of Republicans, meanwhile, were concerned that the bill was still way too expensive and didn’t make enough cuts. House leaders have been trying to put together a bipartisan coalition to vote the thing through, take it to conference with the Senate, and just move the heck on already — and things did not go according to plan. Via The Hill:

Members voted down the $940 billion bill in a 195-234 vote that only won 24 Democratic votes. Most Democrats voted against the bill because it cut food stamp programs by more than $20 billion.

Many Republicans also voted no, but for a different reason. They said it was too expensive a bill to pass when the country has $17 trillion in debt. …

Immediately after the vote, Republicans were apoplectic at what they characterized as a betrayal by Democratic leaders, who did not deliver the votes they promised.

“The Democrats walked away from this,” Boehner, who cast a rare vote in favor of the bill, told The Hill as he walked off the House floor. …

The chief Republican vote-counter, Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), also blamed Democrats and said the bill could come back to the floor next week, with changes. “We can correct it if [Democrats] are not going to help us,” he said after the vote.

Drama, drama, drama.

Update: The farm bill’s implosion, in three tweets:


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That’s all they all are.

DRAMA QUEENS!!

* spit *

Scrumpy on June 20, 2013 at 3:35 PM

We, The People, DO NOT HAVE A VOICE any longer…

No one listens…

It’s all them all the time…

L.i.B

Scrumpy on June 20, 2013 at 3:37 PM

Sorry, I lost trust in these folks some time ago.

Bmore on June 20, 2013 at 3:38 PM

Of course the Democrats will not help. This is yet another thing they can have the media tote as the evil white people who are conservative are blocking.

The media will go with it too and the rubes will believe it.

watertown on June 20, 2013 at 3:39 PM

FARM BILL

FOOD STAMP BILL.

portlandon on June 20, 2013 at 3:40 PM

Just finished up Vince Flynn’s ( RIP) book “Term Limits”

Given all this cr@p out of Washington, it makes for good reading.

Jabberwock on June 20, 2013 at 3:41 PM

Am I the only one eagerly awaiting the riots?

SirGawain on June 20, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Approve it with conditions: 1) All food stamp clients have to reapply with a birth cert 2) If they own a smart phone in their name benefits are reduced by 25% 3) For every tattoo, knock off $10 worth of value per tat each month 4) If they have Internet service and/or cable TV in their name, another 20% of value removed.

Tired of supporting the leeches of this country under the guise of “safety net”….

hillsoftx on June 20, 2013 at 3:43 PM

The chief Republican vote-counter, Majority Whip Kevin McCarthy (Calif.), also blamed Democrats and said the bill could come back to the floor next week, with changes. “We can correct it if [Democrats] are not going to help us,” he said after the vote.

Who the f is this scumbag?

VegasRick on June 20, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Boehner, the Charlie Brown of House Speakers.

“Oh yeah, I got the votes for you, John”

BobMbx on June 20, 2013 at 3:45 PM

Tired of supporting the leeches of this country under the guise of “safety net”….

hillsoftx on June 20, 2013 at 3:43 PM

For far too many, the safety net has become a hammock.

Bitter Clinger on June 20, 2013 at 3:46 PM

It’s a welfare bill with some farm state pork thrown in. The whole thing is an abomination.

forest on June 20, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Temporary setback.

rickv404 on June 20, 2013 at 3:47 PM

Well maybe the SNAP program wouldn’t have gone up so much if the government hadn’t been advertising for people to sign up for it wall-to-wall on the radio!

iurockhead on June 20, 2013 at 3:48 PM

INCORRECT HEADLINE: House rejects farm bill
CORRECT HEADLINE: House rejects MASSIVE FOOD STAMP BILL
….80% of the costs are in OBOZO MONEY – i.e., food stamps for the welfare crowd.

TeaPartyNation on June 20, 2013 at 3:51 PM

Clearly the democrats felt that the farm bill was not large enough…nor wasteful enough.

jukin3 on June 20, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Can’t you just remove food stamps from a friggin’ Farm Bill and vote on it?!!

Wrapping up all these legislative issues into catch all bills is the biggest reason for government bloat. let barry and the dems choke on a stand alone food stamp bill and have to justifying it’s historic growth.

can_con on June 20, 2013 at 3:53 PM

OT: I just read on drudge that FNC hired Howie Kurtz. Huh?

Philly on June 20, 2013 at 3:53 PM

the farm bill is 20% ag and 80% welfare and is up over 60% since 2008. The last budget that was passed and has been used did that in the portion of the 2009 budget that Nancy passed in October 2008. The stimulus funded the rest of that expansion in Feb 2009 and has been the baseline ever since.

Where’s ITguy to get this exactly right, I’m runnin’ on my own blinkered memory.

DanMan on June 20, 2013 at 3:57 PM

OT: I just read on drudge that FNC hired Howie Kurtz. Huh?

Philly on June 20, 2013 at 3:53 PM

Bob Beckel was feeling lonely.

Bitter Clinger on June 20, 2013 at 3:58 PM

OT: I just read on drudge that FNC hired Howie Kurtz. Huh?

I know. I’d tune in out of curiousity but I cancelled my satellite. Didn’t both Bill-O and Hannity shred this guy on seperate occasions?

DanMan on June 20, 2013 at 3:59 PM

More Pork!!! /BHO

trs on June 20, 2013 at 3:59 PM

More Pork!!! /BHO

trs on June 20, 2013 at 3:59 PM

That could be offensive speech in Tennessee.

BobMbx on June 20, 2013 at 4:02 PM

The Rs will achieve a .3% curtailment of the 108% spending increase and get called “racist” by limo-lib bigots who equate food stamps with black people.

forest on June 20, 2013 at 4:02 PM

Okay, did everyone read that? Our Republican Speaker and our Republican Majority Whip both publicly said that they’re upset that the Democrats won’t get on board to help them get a bill past the Republicans.

Now, explain to me again why I’m supposed to care which of these clowns wins the election next year?

Shump on June 20, 2013 at 4:02 PM

$1 trillion/ 10 years should be the entire federal budget. If the fed can’t get by on $100 billion a year, they are doing too much.

tdarrington on June 20, 2013 at 4:06 PM

Immediately after the vote, Republicans were apoplectic at what they characterized as a betrayal by Democratic leaders, who did not deliver the votes they promised.

Time for Boehner, Rubio and other assorted Republicans to read (or reread) The Scorpion and the Frog…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scorpion_and_the_Frog

Fallon on June 20, 2013 at 4:09 PM

Who needs this Farm Bill?
It is long past it’s usefulness.
Hopefully it gets rid of ethanol subsides once and for all?

Delsa on June 20, 2013 at 4:09 PM

As I said during the last thread on this issue, the notion that we’re going to balance the budget on the backs of the poorest Americans by cutting food stamps in a bill that gives billions upon billions in subsidies to big business is really, really stupid.

blue13326 on June 20, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Dan, I believe Hannity referred to HK as discredited.

Philly on June 20, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Farmers have to follow the rules set forth by the USDA/EPA and FSA offices in each county. We don’t have a choice. Those rules, whatever they are, need to be set with enough time to plan out crops, rotations, what herbicides can be used depending on the next crop you put out, etc. We can’t fly by the seat of our pants when the seed you drop in the ground in October doesn’t get cut until June.

Just tell us the rules or repeal all the rules and let us make our own decisions. But if there are to be rules, set them early enough so we can respond in an intelligent manner.

cptacek on June 20, 2013 at 4:12 PM

The Rs will achieve a .3% curtailment of the 108% spending increase and get called “racist” by limo-lib bigots who equate food stamps with black people.

forest on June 20, 2013 at 4:02 PM

No, you’re the bigot for not understanding, as progressives do, that all blacks are inferior and are incapable of basic daily functioning without government help. Transferring wealth to the poor incompetent blacks is compassion. Failing to understand that blacks are, as a whole, incompetent, is racist.

/extreme sarc

tdarrington on June 20, 2013 at 4:13 PM

As I said during the last thread on this issue, the notion that we’re going to balance the budget on the backs of the poorest Americans by cutting food stamps in a bill that gives billions upon billions in subsidies to big business is really, really stupid.

blue13326 on June 20, 2013 at 4:10 PM

Agreed. We should cut food stamps and farm subsidies.

Shump on June 20, 2013 at 4:17 PM

THIS is why you don’t fall for that “compromise” bullcrap.

THEY DON’T WANT TO WORK WITH YOU.

IT’S BETTER FOR THEM POLITICALLY IF NOTHING GETS DONE, CAUSE THEY CAN BLAME YOU FOR IT.

After being burned so badly by the Grand Bargain, I have no idea why Boehner is even marginally surprised.

The Schaef on June 20, 2013 at 4:18 PM

Can anyone explain to me why we need a “farm bill” in the first place? Do we have special bills for other areas of business? Do we have a “mechanic bill” with “auto repair stamps”? Do we have a “plumbers bill” with “leak repair stamps”?

How about we just don’t have a “farm bill” at all?

crosspatch on June 20, 2013 at 4:20 PM

It would be awesome if no billed got passed. No food stamps and no absurd farm programs. Win. Win.

thuja on June 20, 2013 at 4:27 PM

How about we just don’t have a “farm bill” at all?

crosspatch on June 20, 2013 at 4:20 PM

That would be great. Just let us know. People who have signed long term contracts with the government, though, need to have them addressed in an equitable manner.

cptacek on June 20, 2013 at 4:28 PM

Since this “farm bill” didn’t pass, now is a good time to take out ethanol subsidies and pass a cheaper farm bill. And instead of voting it over 10 years, let’s vote on a one-year bill, so we have to bring it up again next year.

Steve Z on June 20, 2013 at 4:33 PM

People who have signed long term contracts with the government, though, need to have them addressed in an equitable manner.

cptacek on June 20, 2013 at 4:28 PM

Lesson for the day: Don’t sign a contract with the government that expires after the legislation that supports it.

tdarrington on June 20, 2013 at 4:44 PM

hillsoftx on June 20, 2013 at 3:43 PM

And 5) BMI over 20

$1 trillion/ 10 years should be the entire federal budget. If the fed can’t get by on $100 billion a year, they are doing too much.

tdarrington on June 20, 2013 at 4:06 PM

That should about right for the military. The rest should be constitutional officials and a secretary pool, one secretary or assistant shared among several congressmen. No bureaucrats, no Federal police, none zip zero nada.

Fenris on June 20, 2013 at 4:45 PM

These “poor people” on food stamps?
You haven’t seen it. The poor food stamp/EBT card holder carries MK purses at $400 to over $900 a pop. The drive the best of cars, they get WIC, they get free food at school, they have thousands on their cards in the middle of the month. Their nails are perfect as is their hair and they dress very well.
I wouldn’t have believed it if I was not seeing it. I am self employed and work a second job at night. I see them every day.
I thought I knew how bad it was because I see Section 8 housing vouchers in my day job as a realtor. In my county the minimum voucher is for $1800 per month towards rent.
The real needy and the elderly don’t get jack because they don’t know how to scam the system. Every time these people go through my line I expect them to turn to me and say, “Thank you!”
Thank you because I and others worked hard to provide them with the crab legs and the best of meats. Then I just say to myself,,,, F them

Delsa on June 20, 2013 at 4:49 PM

Any minute now, the media will start bemoaning “Democrat Obstructionism in the House.” I’ll hold my breath.

CapnObvious on June 20, 2013 at 4:51 PM

Xcellent!

workingclass artist on June 20, 2013 at 4:54 PM

How am I supposed to buy video games and lottery tickets and put gas in my escalade if government won’t pay for my Pepsi and corn nuts? Republicans are so damn mean.

MechanicalBill on June 20, 2013 at 4:54 PM

No legislation is a good thing; why do we even need a farm bill?

Tater Salad on June 20, 2013 at 4:54 PM

Agreed. We should cut food stamps and farm subsidies.

Shump on June 20, 2013 at 4:17 PM

Agreed.

How about we just don’t have a “farm bill” at all?

crosspatch on June 20, 2013 at 4:20 PM

Spot on!

GWB on June 20, 2013 at 4:56 PM

Great! Can we spend zero now?

EddieC on June 20, 2013 at 4:57 PM

For far too many, the safety net has become a hammock.

Bitter Clinger on June 20, 2013 at 3:46 PM

Nice. A hammock with pot hookah and all the Cheetos you can consume.

kirkill on June 20, 2013 at 4:59 PM

Approve it with conditions: 1) All food stamp clients have to reapply with a birth cert 2) If they own a smart phone in their name benefits are reduced by 25% 3) For every tattoo, knock off $10 worth of value per tat each month 4) If they have Internet service and/or cable TV in their name, another 20% of value removed.

Tired of supporting the leeches of this country under the guise of “safety net”….

hillsoftx on June 20, 2013 at 3:43 PM

Same conditions for people and corporations that receive farm subsidies, crop insurance subsidies, benefit from agricultural tariffs and quotas?

New_Jersey_Buckeye on June 20, 2013 at 5:10 PM

America: Where poverty is a causal factor for obesity.

BobMbx on June 20, 2013 at 5:23 PM

As I said during the last thread on this issue, the notion that we’re going to balance the budget on the backs of the poorest Americans by cutting food stamps in a bill that gives billions upon billions in subsidies to big business is really, really stupid.

blue13326 on June 20, 2013 at 4:10 PM

A democrat sticking to its class warfare talking points?

My word! I’m shocked!

tom daschle concerned on June 20, 2013 at 5:29 PM

The rest should be constitutional officials and a secretary pool, one secretary or assistant shared among several congressmen. No bureaucrats, no Federal police, none zip zero nada.

Fenris on June 20, 2013 at 4:45 PM

Yes. If you can’t keep up with legislation and such on your own, then maybe the problem is that you’re doing things you shouldn’t be doing. (In a too-many-laws sort of way, not an Anthony Weiner sort of way.)

Same conditions for people and corporations that receive farm subsidies, crop insurance subsidies, benefit from agricultural tariffs and quotas?

New_Jersey_Buckeye on June 20, 2013 at 5:10 PM

I think you’ll find very few people around here will argue otherwise. (Though, tariffs are a different matter.)

GWB on June 20, 2013 at 5:41 PM

It clear as day that the speake ris not up for the job. He needs to resign in disgrace go back to ohio and get drunk in private. Hell maybe he can cry a little on the way home.

As far as the farm bill good. I hope every bill gets voted down from now until forever. Anything coming out of DC is harmful to the middle class and the country.

unseen on June 20, 2013 at 5:41 PM

meanwhile on Wall street the dow is falling 350 pts. I guess regardless of what the elites tell us about an improving economy they know that wants the fed stops pumping the bottom falls out.

unseen on June 20, 2013 at 5:43 PM

Great! DON’T PASS ANY FARM BILL!

GarandFan on June 20, 2013 at 6:09 PM

Take the challenge, see how well you can eat on Food Stamp prices: Acing the SNAP Challenge

slickwillie2001 on June 20, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Randy Weber (R) and Pete Olson (R) both voted for the farm bill. Both represent people here in the gulf coast region of Texas, and both like to claim they’re conservatives.

I guess neither of them paid attention in math class since 80% of this bill was pork and food stamps, not a farm bill.

madmonkphotog on June 20, 2013 at 7:41 PM

The Libs will truly never be happy with Welfare until they can assign every white person in America a “poor” person(s) or family BY NAME to which they are made personally and legally responsible for feeding, housing, and providing medical AND ANY OTHER FORM OF CARE OR DESIRE SUPPORT.

babylonandon on June 21, 2013 at 1:08 PM

Approve it with conditions: 1) All food stamp clients have to reapply with a birth cert 2) If they own a smart phone in their name benefits are reduced by 25% 3) For every tattoo, knock off $10 worth of value per tat each month 4) If they have Internet service and/or cable TV in their name, another 20% of value removed.

Tired of supporting the leeches of this country under the guise of “safety net”….

hillsoftx on June 20, 2013 at 3:43 PM

And… Every letter step below an “A” for each of your children, knock off 5%. If any child drops out of school, or fails to graduate, loss of foodstamp benefits for 1 year, at which time you must re-apply. (That should make them start caring about school participation!)

dominigan on June 21, 2013 at 4:13 PM