Gun-control group’s list of victims of gun violence includes … Tamerlan Tsarnaev; Update: Group apologizes

posted at 12:41 pm on June 19, 2013 by Allahpundit

Wasn’t Dzhokhar also wounded by the cops at some point? He’s a victim of gun violence too, you know.

Am I awake?

The event [in Concord, New Hampshire] had people supporting the Mayors Against Illegal Guns movement, founded by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, reading the names of those “killed with guns” since the Dec. 14 shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary outside their “No More Names” bus…

Some of the loudest shouts came when a reader spoke the name of Tamerlan Tsarnaev, one of the Boston Marathon bombing suspects who was killed by police during a gunfight.

“He’s a terrorist,” several protesters shouted.

Tamerlan himself usually avoided using guns when murdering people, of course. He blew some of them up at the marathon and allegedly slit the throats of three others a few years ago. I guess they figured he deserved mention because his hands are sort of “clean.”

Seriously, do these cretins mean to imply that cops shouldn’t have guns? Bloomberg’s police force in NYC is so heavily armed that they’re supposedly capable of shooting down a plane in a pinch. I’m guessing that means Bloomy himself is a “no” on that question, although I can’t be sure: The hypocrisy of wealthy/privileged liberals in calling for the population to be disarmed while their own security teams remain armed to the teeth is legendary. As of this writing, the Mayors Against Illegal Guns website says 6,170 Americans have been murdered by people using guns since Newtown; I can’t believe I have to ask this, but does that list include criminals — or terrorists — killed by police in an exchange of gunfire?

I can’t believe I have to ask this either but I guess I do. Was the name of Sean Collier, the MIT police officer ambushed and murdered by the Tsarnaevs because they wanted his gun, also read at the Concord rally? If not, why not?

Update: Here’s the inevitable clean-up attempt of a PR disaster. I still want to know whether Collier’s name was read.

Alex Katz, deputy communications director for the Mayors Against Illegal Guns campaign, said rally organizers relied on a list compiled by Slate.com of people killed by guns since the Dec. 14 massacre at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn., “and his name was on the list.”…

Tsarnaev “was absolutely not a victim, his name should have been deleted before the list was provided to a family member for reading and his name should never have been read. It was a mistake, it should not have happened and we sincerely apologize,” Katz said.


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Mayors against Illegal Guns has just issued another apology: The inclusion of Tsarnaev’s name as a gunshot vicitm was unfortunate. Tsarnaev was in fact killed in a traffic accident. We regret our error.

Axeman on June 20, 2013 at 10:45 AM

How dishonest can they be? Someone needs to call them out on their blatant lies.
ButterflyDragon on June 19, 2013 at 2:29 PM

Please don’t ask that question. They will certainly view it as a challenge, and up their game accordingly.

VelvetElvis on June 20, 2013 at 11:11 AM

Mayors against Illegal Guns has just issued another apology: The inclusion of Tsarnaev’s name as a gunshot vicitm was unfortunate. Tsarnaev was in fact killed in a traffic accident. We regret our error.

Axeman on June 20, 2013 at 10:45 AM

Which of course occurred while he was simply being questioned by the police about some alleged minor tampering with the Underwriter’s Laboratory safety certifications on small kitchen appliances.

dentarthurdent on June 20, 2013 at 11:13 AM

His inclusion is also ironic in the fact that the guns he and his brother possessed were already proscribed and banned by Massachusetts laws – the same sort of laws these morons are advocating for – sure were effective, huh?

PJ Emeritus on June 20, 2013 at 11:32 AM

To the Obama administration & other Liberals, the Isamic Extremists who want to kill us all ARE the victims because we keep ‘picking on them’.

easyt65 on June 20, 2013 at 12:13 PM

It’s probably true that they just took the list from someone else.

That’s part of the problem. They are pushing an agenda and pulling on people’s heartstrings based on a list that they pulled from somewhere that came from somewhere that came from wherever.

I was reading an article where a reporter was looking into a widely reported claim about domestic violence against women. The stat was posted on websites and blogs, used in political speeches, had been quoted in a testimony in front of Congress and had been reported in major newspapers like the NY times. The problem was, he could never find the source.

It became a circular thing where one person had pulled it off of an advocacy website to use in their speech and another person had heard it in the speech and reported it in the news and another website saw it in the news and put it on their site, etc.

In the end, the reporter could not find any evidence that there was even the most basic study backing up the factoid that was being quoted everywhere.

The reason this simple apology should not be accepted is that this group was using this list to push for laws that will affect the rest of us. If you’re spouting off around the office water cooler, it’s one thing. But, when you use so-called facts in order to push politicians to pass laws that affect others, you don’t get to say “sorry, we took the list from someone else”.

JadeNYU on June 20, 2013 at 1:28 PM

List?

How about goon states that enacted gun control?

http://www.mercyseat.net/gun_genocide.html

IlikedAUH2O on June 20, 2013 at 1:33 PM

Which of course occurred while he was simply being questioned by the police about some alleged minor tampering with the Underwriter’s Laboratory safety certifications on small kitchen appliances.

dentarthurdent on June 20, 2013 at 11:13 AM

And Collier’s death was “workplace violence”.

Axeman on June 20, 2013 at 8:08 PM

JadeNYU on June 20, 2013 at 1:28 PM

That’s one of the problems with the internet.

Another thing like that is “debunking sites” which contains lists of links where somebody tries some form of argument, sometimes not successful to people outside the choir. And then proponents go around in forums saying “Oh, that’s been totally debunked” and leave a link to the list of links with “evidence” and various levels of convincing arguments.

Axeman on June 20, 2013 at 8:12 PM

Seeing the portrait of that guy with that smile makes me wonder how much that dental work cost us taxpayers.

TimBuk3 on June 21, 2013 at 10:52 AM

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