Report: Kerry urged Obama, Pentagon to begin immediate airstrikes on Syrian airfields

posted at 5:51 pm on June 18, 2013 by Allahpundit

Man, we’re a long way from 2004 if John Kerry is urging shock and awe against a Middle Eastern dictator over WMD and most Republicans are pounding the table against a reckless intervention.

Cycle of life, my friends.

Flash-forward to this past Wednesday. At a principals meeting in the White House situation room, Secretary of State John Kerry began arguing, vociferously, for immediate U.S. airstrikes against airfields under the control of Bashar al-Assad’s Syrian regime — specifically, those fields it has used to launch chemical weapons raids against rebel forces.

It was at this point that the current chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the usually mild-mannered Army General Martin Dempsey, spoke up, loudly. According to several sources, Dempsey threw a series of brushback pitches at Kerry, demanding to know just exactly what the post-strike plan would be and pointing out that the State Department didn’t fully grasp the complexity of such an operation.

Dempsey informed Kerry that the Air Force could not simply drop a few bombs, or fire a few missiles, at targets inside Syria: To be safe, the U.S. would have to neutralize Syria’s integrated air-defense system, an operation that would require 700 or more sorties. At a time when the U.S. military is exhausted, and when sequestration is ripping into the Pentagon budget, Dempsey is said to have argued that a demand by the State Department for precipitous military action in a murky civil war wasn’t welcome.

I’m intrigued by the fact that Kerry’s focused on Assad’s chemical weapons when they have little to do with O’s strategic reasons for getting involved there. The White House is stressing WMD lately because it’s a rallying point for public opinion; the reason for intervention isn’t because Obama’s worried about Assad gassing people on a mass scale, it’s because he’s afraid that Assad’s going to roll over the rebels and humiliate the U.S. in light of its “Assad must go” ultimatum if something isn’t done quickly to prop up the opposition. The U.S. will have to try to grab the regime’s sarin arsenal at some point if the rebels turn the tide and Assad gets desperate, but at the moment he has no real incentive to use unconventional weapons when the conventional ones are working just fine — unless the whole point is to defy and humiliate the United States for deciding to intervene. That’s one of the great potential backfires lurking here, that Assad and his pals in Tehran might decide to punish the U.S. for deciding to arm the rebels by really flouting the “red line” with more gas attacks. Although if they’re going to do that, you would think that those weapons will already have been dispersed and/or that more are on their way into the country from Iran. Frankly, I’m not sure why Kerry thinks that bombing airfields would cripple Assad’s ability to use WMD. Part of the sarin stockpile is in shells designed to be used by ground troops. Maybe he’s thinking that they should aim to cripple the largest delivery systems, like airborne bombs and SCUD warheads. They can’t stop Assad from using WMD but they can force him into smaller-scale delivery systems to minimize casualties.

Via the Standard, here’s O making the case against deeper intervention last night on Charlie Rose’s show. His bottom line: Unless you’re in the Situation Room, you can’t know how dangerous and complicated a Kerry-style plan of attack would be. I think he’s right about that, but seeing him use secrecy as a defense here so soon after he’s used secrecy as a reason not to explain the scope of NSA data-mining proves again that, when it comes to counterterrorism and foreign policy, the big public debate he’s always claiming to want always boils down to “trust me.” What if you don’t trust him?


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So… when’s Obama going to get around to addressing the entire al Qaeda-rebel alliance thing?

Stoic Patriot on June 18, 2013 at 5:54 PM

Kerry, McCain and Rubio – Bothers From Another Mother.

RasThavas on June 18, 2013 at 5:55 PM

This guy is reminiscent of Jenjiss Khan.

forest on June 18, 2013 at 5:56 PM

Kerry, McCain and Rubio – Brothers From Another Mother.

Kerry, McCain and Rubio – Buggers Of The Same Father.

RasThavas on June 18, 2013 at 5:57 PM

The Christians who peacefully lived and raised their families in the village of Al-Duvair were ALL slaughtered by the FSA on May 30th. Each and every women and child was brutally massacred. That was the same day John McCain stood alongside terrorist for a photo-op, after illegally entering Syria in support of the various terror networks.

RasThavas on June 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM

To which bat face replied “you just can’t go around the world air raiding villages, killing women and children.”

tom daschle concerned on June 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM

Where did these wmds come from? Did Mohammed make a trip from Iraq as General Norman Schwarzkopf, Jr. was blowing across the desert?

IlikedAUH2O on June 18, 2013 at 5:59 PM

Isn’t this the same wanker that railed against the US in it’s Vietnam involvement?

These guys are communist organizers.

redguy on June 18, 2013 at 5:59 PM

So… when’s Obama going to get around to addressing the entire al Qaeda-rebel alliance thing?

Stoic Patriot on June 18, 2013 at 5:54 PM

When he is the leader.

redguy on June 18, 2013 at 6:00 PM

Dr. Strangelurch.

fogw on June 18, 2013 at 6:00 PM

Yes! Let’s needlessly and without cause kill Syrians in the name of peace!

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 6:02 PM

Dr. Strangelurch.

fogw on June 18, 2013 at 6:00 PM

~falls over laughing~

Perfect post…

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Dr. Strangelurch.

fogw on June 18, 2013 at 6:00 PM

Game, set, match.

VorDaj on June 18, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Syria.

Poster child for liberal foreign policy.

You know, this whole situation would be resolved if all the parties in the conflict would just join hands and sing a few songs, maybe a drum circle.

Perhaps give them all a “participation trophy.” Unicorns and rainbows for all.

MichaelGabriel on June 18, 2013 at 6:05 PM

Hey John. Are you going to start murdering babies now?

Old Country Boy on June 18, 2013 at 6:06 PM

“Mr Peace” John Kerry. Crazy. Just a reminder, a comment from another site:

Once again Americans will have to accept that the decision to inflict damage and death in a foreign country is going to encourage others to inflict damage and death to the US (at home or abroad). Quid pro quo. Not rocket science.

This willy nilly interventionism could get us into trouble. Ask Russia. We’re talking possible extensive war. Stop gambling. Back out of Syria before we’re in too deep.
Especially when, as everyone says, it’s gd AL Qaeda we’re fighting for. Talk about insane.

anotherJoe on June 18, 2013 at 6:06 PM

John Kerry, reporting for duty…I still got the hat.

d1carter on June 18, 2013 at 6:07 PM

The Christians who peacefully lived and raised their families in the village of Al-Duvair were ALL slaughtered by the FSA on May 30th. Each and every women and child was brutally massacred. That was the same day John McCain stood alongside terrorist for a photo-op, after illegally entering Syria in support of the various terror networks.

RasThavas on June 18, 2013 at 5:58 PM

So, what’s the over / under on the date for Armageddon these days?

AesopFan on June 18, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Unless you’re in the Situation Room, you can’t know how dangerous and complicated a Kerry-style plan of attack would be.

Too bad Gumby wasn’t in the Situation Room on 9/11/2012.

antipc on June 18, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Who put a freaking college professor in charge of the country?

“It’s hard to make these decisions and you’ve no idea.” It wouldn’t be nearly as hard if you hadn’t been shooting your mouth off with no plan, idiot.

jdpaz on June 18, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 6:03 PM
VorDaj on June 18, 2013 at 6:03 PM

Thanks guys. First image that came to mind :)

fogw on June 18, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Dr. Strangelurch (John Kerry).

Captain McQueeg (John McCain).

Lieutenant Fuzz (Marco Rubio)

VorDaj on June 18, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Kerry, McCain and Rubio – Bothers From Another Mother.

RasThavas on June 18, 2013 at 5:55 PM

Naggers.

VegasRick on June 18, 2013 at 6:10 PM

This is turning into a Hezbollah/Mullah/Assad/Putin war vs. the Saudis and Islamists.

And now us with the House of Saud and AQ.

Swell, just swell.

SteveMG on June 18, 2013 at 6:10 PM

Naggers.

VegasRick on June 18, 2013 at 6:10 PM

I hate nags.

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 6:12 PM

i guess kerry got the okay from his international body of experts or somesuch. my prediction is he runs for president again in 2016

chasdal on June 18, 2013 at 6:14 PM

I hate nags.

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Do they annoy you?

VegasRick on June 18, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Too bad Gumby wasn’t in the Situation Room on 9/11/2012.

antipc on June 18, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Or during Fast and Furious Gun Running To Murderers and IRS Punish My Enemies.

VorDaj on June 18, 2013 at 6:15 PM

The day I asked the President to bomb Syria is seared…..seared into my memory.

BobMbx on June 18, 2013 at 6:15 PM

THIS is how World Wars get started. You know the Russians would love to kick Obama’s ass.
The Chinese keep buying America. They won’t have to invade. They are already here.
My kids middle school could be in downtown Bejing.

redguy on June 18, 2013 at 6:17 PM

Do they annoy you?

VegasRick on June 18, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Are you kidding?

An annoyance is an itch you can’t scratch.

A nag is something I refuse to live with.

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Unless you’re in the Situation Room , with Jay-Z and Beyonce, you can’t know how dangerous and complicated just how stupid yet expensive a Kerry-style plan of attack would be.

Fixed to reflect current reality…

ROCnPhilly on June 18, 2013 at 6:21 PM

As I remember, John Kerry wasn’t exactly a hero the last time he went to war.

bw222 on June 18, 2013 at 6:22 PM

John Kerry’s FaceBook entry:

Hi there fellow bloggers. My name is United States Senator John Forbes Kerry from the great state of Massachusetts. You can call me JFK if you want. I was born on December 11, 1943, although people tell me that I look at least 20 years younger. It’s probably my great hair and rugged good looks.

I graduated from Yale in June 1966 in the top 1% of my class. To earn extra money during the summers, I loaded trucks in a grocery warehouse and sold encyclopedias door to door. That is probably one of the reasons that I am so humble. Over my four years at Yale, I maintained a 96 grade average and received a 101 average in my senior year.

I am one of the most senior members of that grand and much loved and respected institution known as the U.S. Senate. Probably the only Senator who was even a little bit greater than me and a little more humble was my dear friend Ted Moore Kennedy. I also have a very high IQ. Very high. At least 250 on a bad day. Much higher than that creep who stole the election from me. I know that he stole it because exit polls are never ever wrong.

I am also a great war hero. I set all kinds of records for heroism when I was in Vietnam. I was grievously wounded at least three times yet continued to insist on staying in the fight when lesser men would have given up. I won the bronze star with extra V’s for extra valor and the Silver Star for defeating a whole battalion of NVA with my bare hands.
Sometimes I feel like a had to carry all the water for those other ungrateful swiftboaters.

I sometimes like to chill out after a long day of serving the American people by having a double martini with my good friend Ted, although I can’t do that now as he has stopped drinking. We used to have a servant bring 21 double martinis. I got one and Ted got one for each of his fingers and each of his toes. Contrary to what some of my very few enemies say I never marry women for just their money. They must also have a pulse. BTW, did I mention that I was in Vietnam? I was also in Cambodia, so don’t forget that!

I would like to think that I am open minded, honest, polite, heroic, trustworthy and humble. And I appreciate the same qualities in others although I am realistic enough to know that no one else could come close to me.

Turn offs: other politicians who spend more on haircuts than I do. That is just not right.

Who I’d like to meet:
…other progressive bloggers. Other great war heroes who hate that damn S-T-U-P-I-D Texan who stole the election from me by using Karl Rove’s mind control machine and those lying swiftboaters whose pants are on fire! Cool people who live close to Washington D.C. so that we can get together, talk about you for about 30 seconds and then spend about 9 hours talking about me. I will also brief you in detail about my plans to start WWIII. BTW, did I mention that I was in Vietnam and Cambodia? Just one more BTW, if anyone has found my magic hat please return to me and I will reward you with a 32 ounce bottle of Heinz Ketchup autographed by me.

VorDaj on June 18, 2013 at 6:22 PM

Do they annoy you?

VegasRick on June 18, 2013 at 6:15 PM
Are you kidding?

An annoyance is an itch you can’t scratch.

A nag is something I refuse to live with.

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 6:18 PM

Google search – South Park and some of those words, you won’t be disappointed.

VegasRick on June 18, 2013 at 6:23 PM

As I remember, John Kerry wasn’t exactly a hero the last time he went to war.

bw222 on June 18, 2013 at 6:22 PM

If I recall a made-up history of my own disdain, he once heroically rescued a dead mouse after the mousetrap killed the thing.

He gave himself a medal for it.

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 6:24 PM

As I remember, John Kerry wasn’t exactly a hero the last time he went to war.

bw222 on June 18, 2013 at 6:22 PM

He’s trying to make up for that by starting World War III.

VorDaj on June 18, 2013 at 6:26 PM

Google search – South Park and some of those words, you won’t be disappointed.

VegasRick on June 18, 2013 at 6:23 PM

I was once married to a chronic nag in reality. The last thing I need or want in that vein is a fictional reminder. *L*

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 6:26 PM

AP: I’m intrigued by the fact that Kerry’s focused on Assad’s chemical weapons when they have little to do with O’s strategic reasons for getting involved there.

And I am intrigued by the fact that Obama, Kerry and the neo-clowns are so focused on chemical warfare, which -if used – was limited as opposed to the 14 year old boy and unarmed POWs that have been murdered by the rebels.

bw222 on June 18, 2013 at 6:26 PM

So, what’s the over / under on the date for Armageddon these days?

Can’t say, but September or sometime before, is looking possible.

So many scandals, so little time…..the best possible distraction is to get us into a world war.

hawkeye54 on June 18, 2013 at 6:27 PM

I think I’m starting to get the toss the medals thing now. Sort of.

Except for the dishonoring yourself part.

wolly4321 on June 18, 2013 at 6:28 PM

As I remember, John Kerry wasn’t exactly a hero the last time he went to war.

Definitely not by our standards.

He still ain’t gonna be, gettin’ us into a shootin’ war with Syria.

hawkeye54 on June 18, 2013 at 6:29 PM

So, what’s the over / under on the date for Armageddon these days?

AesopFan on June 18, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Yeah, “I’ve got a really bad feeling about this…”

dogsoldier on June 18, 2013 at 6:30 PM

i can only imagine what a pickle we’d be in if we didnt have a nobel peace prize recipient at the helm.

t8stlikchkn on June 18, 2013 at 6:30 PM

How about giving Obama, Kerry, McCain, Graham and Rubio AK-47s and sending them over to Syria to help the rebels?

bw222 on June 18, 2013 at 6:32 PM

Top.

Men.

Cicero43 on June 18, 2013 at 6:32 PM

I asked a Vet I worked with who had a pair of bad knees. Grenade injury.

I asked him about kerrys medals.

Quite the answer.

Good guy. Ran the place at night.

wolly4321 on June 18, 2013 at 6:33 PM

So, what’s the over / under on the date for Armageddon these days?

AesopFan on June 18, 2013 at 6:08 PM

Yeah, “I’ve got a really bad feeling about this…”

dogsoldier on June 18, 2013 at 6:30 PM

Bible prophesy come to pass right before our very eyes and in our life time? Could be.

hawkeye54 on June 18, 2013 at 6:37 PM

Or during Fast and Furious Gun Running To Murderers and IRS Punish My Enemies.

VorDaj on June 18, 2013 at 6:15 PM

Guess he figures popping in, for the Bin Laden photo op more than makes up it.

antipc on June 18, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Dr. Strangelurch.

fogw on June 18, 2013 at 6:00 PM

Comment of the day. I’ve always pictured John McCain riding the bomb as he shouted “My friends,” but Dr. Strangelurch would be even better. I think McCain actually would do it. Dr. Strangelurch would chicken out.

bw222 on June 18, 2013 at 6:38 PM

I think I’m starting to get the toss the medals thing now. Sort of.

Except for the dishonoring yourself part.

wolly4321 on June 18, 2013 at 6:28 PM

The reason Kerry tossed those medals is because he didn’t earn them.

And, to a corollary: Military don’t seek to win a medal. We get them on occasion because we did the job we volunteered for.

Unlike liberal politicians, or liberals in general (as evidenced by our trolls), we military and former military don’t seek accolades.

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Man, we’re a long way from 2004 if John Kerry is urging shock and awe against a Middle Eastern dictator over WMD and most Republicans are pounding the table against a reckless intervention.

Not too hard to explain.

Many Republicans have learned some important lessons from Iraq and Afghanistan. After expending much blood and treasure toppling brutal murderous regimes and trying to make those parts of the world a better place the people there, and in the region, hate us as much or more than they ever did.

Democrats haven’t learned a thing. They only have a problem with aggressive military intervention when a Republican is president.

Saddam was much, much worse than Assad is. And yet JF’n Kerry and Comrade O still opposed using the military to topple him, even after we had tried everything else over the course of twelve years and were still stuck there maintaining no-fly zones, enforcing UN resolution, and trying to keep him contained.

But now since he is SoS and Comrade O is Prez, JF’N K thinks it’s okay to use our military to combat Assad’s military, set up no-fly zones, and help Islamist terrorist groups and affiliated “rebels” topple him.

farsighted on June 18, 2013 at 6:39 PM

To the current administration, any excuse is good enough if there’s a chance of getting the Muslim Brotherhood into power.

ROCnPhilly on June 18, 2013 at 6:40 PM

The reason Kerry tossed those medals is because he didn’t earn them.

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 6:38 PM

I believe Kerry once admitted those weren’t his medals, but someone else’s.

bw222 on June 18, 2013 at 6:42 PM

To the current administration, any excuse is good enough if there’s a chance of getting the Muslim Brotherhood into power.

That is exactly what this admin is determined to do.

hawkeye54 on June 18, 2013 at 6:44 PM

I believe Kerry once admitted those weren’t his medals, but someone else’s.

bw222 on June 18, 2013 at 6:42 PM

Yes, that is story. Kerry never debated it.

I often wonder if Kerry ever HAD any medals to throw away. I bet he had only (if any) the Good Conduct Medal which is given as a matter of course.

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 6:45 PM

I believe Kerry once admitted those weren’t his medals, but someone else’s.

bw222 on June 18, 2013 at 6:42 PM

An addition: Kerry first claimed, for years, he threw back HIS medals.

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 6:46 PM

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 6:38 PM

Kerry tossed the medals because he is a political opportunist and thought he’d gain popularity by grandstanding in that way. His self-promoting egoism is NOT the way of a soldier.

ROCnPhilly on June 18, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Naggers.

VegasRick on June 18, 2013 at 6:10 PM

HA south park rocks :)

dmacleo on June 18, 2013 at 6:58 PM

Kerry tossed the medals because he is a political opportunist and thought he’d gain popularity by grandstanding in that way. His self-promoting egoism is NOT the way of a soldier.

ROCnPhilly on June 18, 2013 at 6:55 PM

Like all the leftist faves out there, Kerry hasn’t done a thing on his own. He, like all other liberals, have always had a mentor — someone else to get them by.

There is no self-made man among the Left.

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Will he be against airstrikes after being for them???

phreshone on June 18, 2013 at 7:06 PM

I am completely against any action in Syria. I see no need to help ensure the spread of violence against Christians and Women by the adoption of Sharia law… like has happened in other Arab Spring states.

E L Frederick (Sniper One) on June 18, 2013 at 7:06 PM

I’m so sick of these people. The Syrian government sucks but the “rebels” suck just a much if not more. Obama and JayLinds seek to arm organ eating Islamists while denying Americans the right to own 30 round magazines.

Fluke all these people.

jawkneemusic on June 18, 2013 at 7:07 PM

Like all the leftist faves out there, Kerry hasn’t done a thing on his own. He, like all other liberals, have always had a mentor — someone else to get them by.

There is no self-made man among the Left.

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 7:03 PM

Think how much further he’d have gone if he’d claimed to be Native American or Kenyan.

ROCnPhilly on June 18, 2013 at 7:07 PM

Think how much further he’d have gone if he’d claimed to be Native American or Kenyan.

ROCnPhilly on June 18, 2013 at 7:07 PM

Kerry has reached his level of incompetence — that place where people are promoted out of their positions to become someone else’s problem. Sadly, he’s now America’s problem — for the short term.

Kerry will never achieve any place more than he has now.

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 7:12 PM

Wag the dog.

tru2tx on June 18, 2013 at 7:26 PM

Maybe the Air Force would like to borrow his magic hat?

drunyan8315 on June 18, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Maybe the Air Force would like to borrow his magic hat?

drunyan8315 on June 18, 2013 at 7:30 PM

Well, sure, but it’s still missing.

ROCnPhilly on June 18, 2013 at 7:36 PM

I often wonder if Kerry ever HAD any medals to throw away. I bet he had only (if any) the Good Conduct Medal which is given as a matter of course.

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 6:45 PM

..officers do not receive a “good conduct medal”. He probably did receive the NDSM (National Defense Service Medal) ~~ also called the “EGO button” (Everyone Got One) by volunteering back in ’66-’68. But, as you noted, there was a HUGE controversy over what, where, when , and how Horse Face earned the Purple Hearts, Bronze Star, and Silver Star medals.

The War Planner on June 18, 2013 at 7:41 PM

Kerry might want to think about that “airfield bombing” thing a bit more…and stop to consider that the SAM sites – which must be taken out before any bombing campaign – are currently manned and operated by Russian troops and technicians who are training the Syrians.

I don’t believe that the Russians would take the intentional deaths of their ‘advisers’ lightly.

Solaratov on June 18, 2013 at 7:49 PM

Halp Us, Jon Cary. We R Stuk In Kyrzakhstan!

Christien on June 18, 2013 at 7:54 PM

Saddam was much, much worse than Assad is. And yet JF’n Kerry and Comrade O still opposed using the military to topple him, even after we had tried everything else over the course of twelve years and were still stuck there maintaining no-fly zones, enforcing UN resolution, and trying to keep him contained.

But now since he is SoS and Comrade O is Prez, JF’N K thinks it’s okay to use our military to combat Assad’s military, set up no-fly zones, and help Islamist terrorist groups and affiliated “rebels” topple him.

farsighted on June 18, 2013 at 6:39 PM

Kerry voted against U.S entry into the 1991 Gulf War and for the 2003 Iraq War. Like a lot of Democrats he supported the war until it got difficult.

Basilsbest on June 18, 2013 at 7:55 PM

Kerry urged Obama, Pentagon to begin immediate airstrikes on Syrian airfields

In the manner of Genghis Khan…of course.

Was a time when the Dems were considered the “peace” Party.

My, my, once their exalted leader got one of those Peace Prize thingies…well…hell’s a poppin’…it is off to war we go. [Again.]

Maybe Kerry is looking for an even dozen of them purple heart things?

coldwarrior on June 18, 2013 at 7:56 PM

According to several sources, Dempsey threw a series of brushback pitches at Kerry, demanding to know just exactly what the post-strike plan would be and pointing out that the State Department didn’t fully grasp the complexity of such an operation.

I’m not sure Lt. Lurch grasped the complexity of the head when he was in the Navy. (Hint; you operate the “Pump To Sea” handle last.)

Dempsey informed Kerry that the Air Force could not simply drop a few bombs, or fire a few missiles, at targets inside Syria: To be safe, the U.S. would have to neutralize Syria’s integrated air-defense system, an operation that would require 700 or more sorties.

Right. SEAD (Suppression of Enemy Air Defense) first, primary target roster localization and elimination second. We tried it the other way around in North Vietnam, and it didn’t end well.

I’m intrigued by the fact that Kerry’s focused on Assad’s chemical weapons when they have little to do with O’s strategic reasons for getting involved there.

I’m not sure The One understands why he wants to invade Syria- and make no mistake, that’s what he intends to do. Maybe he thinks another “good war” will kick-start his popularity. Or perhaps he thinks, like Bill Clinton did in Kosovo, that this will get him street cred with the Arab world.

Or he may just want to bleed the U.S. military, in addition to gutting it here at home. (Google “von Bruchmuller” and “Verdun” to see what might be going through his twisted little mind.)

Then again, it’s entirely possible that His Immensity is making this decision the way he seems to make every decision; by consulting his dogma, listening to the voices in his head, and then rolling the dice.

Of course, it may just be the trait he apparently shares with Lurch; that is, simultaneously being a leftist ideologue and dumb as a bag of hammers.

/I know, repetitious

clear ether

eon

eon on June 18, 2013 at 8:00 PM

Resist We Much on June 18, 2013 at 7:56 PM

That guy from Braunau, wannabe artist or something, wasn’t that what he was trying to achieve, too…stability in Europe?

He was friends with the MB, too, in a way…Amin al Husseini and all that.

Didn’t turn out so well, for everybody involved.

coldwarrior on June 18, 2013 at 8:02 PM

eon on June 18, 2013 at 8:00 PM

The operational arts are no longer considered…

Getting a bump in the polls…that’s what is important.

Still haven’t “finished” what Obama started in Libya. If he imagines Syria being a cake walk, well, slaughter a few Russian officers and technicians on the ground, anywhere, and things get complex. Fast. More so if one announces one’s intentions loudly.

coldwarrior on June 18, 2013 at 8:06 PM

Kerry voted against U.S entry into the 1991 Gulf War and for the 2003 Iraq War. Like a lot of Democrats he supported the war until it got difficult.

Basilsbest on June 18, 2013 at 7:55 PM

In 2002-2003 he was for it before he was against it.

Like many Dems he voted for the resolution in 2002, which was right before an election. But, like many Dems, he then opposed GWB’s “rush to war” to topple Saddam.

Like the French, Lurch supported ratcheting up the pressure on Saddam but opposed GWB’s use of military force to topple him because, ostensibly, there was still a chance that diplomacy would work, even after twelve years of failure.

farsighted on June 18, 2013 at 8:16 PM

It is too bad that the only thing that has seared Kerry’s brain is a made-up story about a Holiday in Cambodia.

tom daschle concerned on June 18, 2013 at 8:38 PM

That must be some more of that “smart diplomacy” we were promised.

Socratease on June 18, 2013 at 8:39 PM

That guy from Braunau, wannabe artist or something, wasn’t that what he was trying to achieve, too…stability in Europe?

He was friends with the MB, too, in a way…Amin al Husseini and all that.

Didn’t turn out so well, for everybody involved.

coldwarrior on June 18, 2013 at 8:02 PM

Yeppers and it won’t turn out any better this time.

Resist We Much on June 18, 2013 at 8:55 PM

Humm.
As I remember, John Kerry wasn’t exactly a hero the last time he went to war.
bw222 on June 18, 2013 at 6:22 PM

Oh, contraire … John F’ing (Where’s that Magic Hat?) Kerry was awarded 3 Purple Hearts (so he could come home in 90 days), 2 Bronze Stars and a Silver Star, ALL BY HIMSELF.
Don’t believe me? Just examine carefully his DD-214 and his complete military record. Just as soon as John F’ing Kerry signs the RELEASE forms and allows the Manure Spreading Media to have a look at that outstanding military record.
Those records are about as revealing as the complete educational transcripts of King Putt. Who, everyone in the Lame Stream Media is certain he’s a friggin’ GENIUS’s. Magna Cum Laude … right? Sure … just show us the TRANSCRIPTS.
Hey and while you’re at it, let’s see both Mooschells and President Kardashian Downgrade’s Licenses’ to Practice Law. What? You had to SURRENDER THEM to the Illinois’ BAR? Gee, I wonder why?

Missilengr on June 18, 2013 at 9:22 PM

Report: Kerry urged Obama, Pentagon to begin immediate airstrikes on Syrian airfields

Hey, as long as it was a global plan…..

There Goes the Neighborhood on June 19, 2013 at 12:36 AM

Imagine, just for a moment, how many Democrats would be on board with this if it were Bush trying to arm Syria rebels.

Hypothetical, of course. Bush wouldn’t be doing any such thing.

There Goes the Neighborhood on June 19, 2013 at 12:42 AM

Kerry needs to shut up. His job is to keep the lid on Benghazi.

As for Obama, he is voting “present” in Syria so that if it all goes wrong he can pull out unscathed by direct involvment, but if Assad goes down he can chalk up another victory for Islam freedom.

virgo on June 19, 2013 at 10:18 AM