SCOTUS strikes down citizenship provision in Arizona’s voter registration law

posted at 12:31 pm on June 17, 2013 by Erika Johnsen

In a 2004 ballot initiative, Arizona voters decided that they wanted their state to go one step further on the  requirements of a 1993 federal law that allows people to register to vote via a single form accepted by all the states, on which they must “swear” that they are citizens of the United States, by asking people to instead actually present documentary proof of citizenship like a birth certificate, passport, or tribal ID card before registering in order to prevent voter fraud.

The border state has been fighting to be allowed to ask for evidence of prospective voters’ citizenship ever since, but in a major decision released this morning, the Supreme Court struck down Arizona’s Proposition 200 as an attempt to override the federal “motor voter” law in a 7-2 ruling, with Justice Kennedy concurring and Justices Thomas and Alito dissenting:

A federal appeals court said that Arizona had gone too far and essentially rejected the federal form. Arizona said it was not a rejection of the federal form any more than asking for ID at an airport is a rejection of a plane ticket. …

At an oral argument in March, Thomas Horne, a lawyer for Arizona, told the justices that the state was within its rights to ask for additional information beyond the simple federal form.

“It’s extremely inadequate,” Horne said. “It’s essentially an honor system. It does not do the job.”

“Well,” answered Justice Sonia Sotomayor, “that’s what the federal system decided was enough.”

The court’s conservatives appeared sympathetic to the Arizona side. Scalia said that federal law clearly empowers the states to take additional action to assess a potential voter’s eligibility.

“Under oath is not proof at all,” he said. “It’s just a statement.”

Alabama, Georgia, and Kansas all have similar laws to Arizona’s proof-of-citizenship requirement and joined Arizona in their suit, and the Court’s ruling (written by Justice Scalia) pointed out that their next recourse action-item would be to petition the federal government to allow for state-specific instruction on the form and/or beef up the federal law altogether, and then go to court if the government declines to do so. …I’m going to go ahead and throw out a guess right now that the Obama administration would probably be disinclined to acquiesce to their request, for the very same reasons that so-called rights groups are pretty darn pleased about today’s decision:

“Today’s decision sends a strong message that states cannot block their citizens from registering to vote by superimposing burdensome paperwork requirements on top of federal law,” said Nina Perales, vice president of litigation for the Mexican American Legal Defense and Educational Fund and lead counsel for the voters who challenged Proposition 200. …

Opponents of Arizona’s law see it as an attack on vulnerable voter groups such as minorities, immigrants and the elderly. They say they’ve counted more than 31,000 potentially legal voters in Arizona who easily could have registered before Proposition 200 but were blocked initially by the law in the 20 months after it passed in 2004. They say about 20 percent of those thwarted were Latino.

Barbara Arnwine, president and executive director of the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, called the decision a victory. “The court has reaffirmed the essential American right to register to vote for federal election without the burdens of state voter suppression measures,” she said.


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If a rural Georgia ex baseball player can understand this, the why can’t supposedly educated liberal elites have the same understanding?

Ah, but you see, they DO have the same understanding. But a unified culture with a single language has the potential to work against their utopian goals. Its much better to have divisive and competitive cultures and languages for them to manipulate and play off each other.

They figured out what God figured out in the Biblical story of the Tower of Babel. That a unified people could be dangerous:

The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. 7 Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”

Just sayin’.

hawkeye54 on June 17, 2013 at 2:31 PM

Why bother being a citizen.
Aliens have all the privledges of citizenship and few of the resonsibilities.
Are they on the hook for 20 trillion of debt?

esblowfeld on June 17, 2013 at 2:32 PM

Dear EJ,

That’s NOT what the opinion says. You should read it and not just reports about it.

I believe the ruling is a well-crafted approach by Scalia of upholding a valid Congressional act while giving a lift to states’ rights. He points all the states to a door they should walk through to accomplish their objectives without all the angst of a “constitutional” conflict.

EB

PS: The worst place to learn about what SCOTUS is doing is the media.

EdmundBurke247 on June 17, 2013 at 2:35 PM

separate federal and state registration and voting forms- simple

markcon on June 17, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Voting in any election byBeing an illegal immigrant should be an automatic deportable offence.

Resist We Much on June 17, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Fixed.

James on June 17, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Why bother being a citizen.
Aliens have all the privledges of citizenship and few of the resonsibilities.

Exactly. Now especially since they are free, welcome and encouraged to vote if they want to.

Are they on the hook for 20 trillion of debt?

Exactly why many don’t become citizens. As long as they get the goods.

My wife’s former boss was and probably still is a resident alien for over 15 years, a citizen of Mexico, owns a furniture manufacturing company. Hired mostly illegals as assemblers. He hated the USA because he believed its policies were racist. Didn’t stop him from living here enjoying the benefits and profiting by it.

hawkeye54 on June 17, 2013 at 2:49 PM

an illegal immigrant should be an automatic deportable offence.

Resist We Much on June 17, 2013 at 12:57 PM

Fixed.

James on June 17, 2013 at 2:45 PM

Amen. What really needs the fixing is the enforcement and performance on the part of the Fed.

To do that, the progressives must be ousted, in politics and media.

hawkeye54 on June 17, 2013 at 2:51 PM

The goal of the 1986 amnesty and 1993 Motor Voter bill was to eventually increase the number of Dem voters. Not only are the Dems not very “fertile,” they abort millions of the young they do conceive.

And the Stupid Party keeps letting them do it.

Wethal on June 17, 2013 at 2:54 PM

State picture ID laws make this work. Citizen to get ID, ID to vote simple.

tim c on June 17, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Nevada just passed a law allowing illegal aliens undocumented hard-workers to get a driving privilege card, so illegal aliens undocumented hard-workers can legally drive to their undocumented jobs — the jobs Americans won’t do — like THESE JOBS.

With today’s SCOTUS opinion, I guess they can now register to vote at the same time! How convenient — to finally put our Republic out of its misery.

Anyone know where I can find a sane universe to live in??

fred5678 on June 17, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Should I assume that the use of “invader” is call Article I, Section 10 of the Constitution of the United States into play.

Is Art I, Sec 10 subject to review, existing as the right of a state to defend itself.

goatweed on June 17, 2013 at 3:15 PM

State picture ID laws make this work. Citizen to get ID, ID to vote simple.

tim c on June 17, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Exactually!

ButterflyDragon on June 17, 2013 at 3:23 PM

EdmundBurke247 on June 17, 2013 at 2:35 PM

Thank you! I am so grateful to see that reason hasn’t completely forgotten about H/A yet.

MJBrutus on June 17, 2013 at 3:27 PM

markcon on June 17, 2013 at 2:35 PM

I was thinking this also. Is it possible to prepare a federal voting form for just the federal offices for those who refuse to show proof of citizenship? At least the local and state elections could be protected from fraud.

Rose on June 17, 2013 at 3:33 PM

State picture ID laws make this work. Citizen to get ID, ID to vote simple.

tim c on June 17, 2013 at 3:06 PM

Recent state IDs are pretty good at proving legal presence (i.e., that you’re in this country legally, either because you were born here or because you’ve been naturalized or because you have some kind of legal alien status). I’m not aware of any state ID that proves US citizenship. Driver’s licenses in particular are no proof of US citizenship, nor are Social Security cards. Millions of legal noncitizens hold those.

Time Lord on June 17, 2013 at 3:35 PM

Motor Voter…..
Everyone who had two brain cells to rub together noted the potential voter-fraud problems of Billy Jeff’s creation, and the response was….
crickets, except for when the protesters were being compared to Bull Connor, and other notables from the past of the Democrat Party.
But, since Federal Law trumps State Law when it comes to Federal Elections, AZ should bifurcate their voter roles, not allowing “Motor Voter” voters to vote on state/local issues.
What could the Feds object to over that?

Another Drew on June 17, 2013 at 3:42 PM

Time Lord on June 17, 2013 at 3:35 PM

CA, IIRC, requires first time DL applicants to provide a certified copy of their birth-certificate, which would prove citizenship, as per requirements of The PATRIOT Act.

Another Drew on June 17, 2013 at 3:44 PM

CA, IIRC, requires first time DL applicants to provide a certified copy of their birth-certificate, which would prove citizenship, as per requirements of The PATRIOT Act.

Another Drew on June 17, 2013 at 3:44 PM

Here’s the actual info from the California DMV. You have to prove birth date and legal presence. You don’t have to prove citizenship, which makes total sense, because there are easily over a million Californians who are legal noncitizens, and they have a legitimate need for a driver’s license. Some of the documents acceptable alone or in combination with others include:

-Permanent Resident Card

-Temporary Resident Identification Card

-Canadian Passport/Birth Certificate

-Non–resident Alien Canadian Border Crossing Card

-Valid foreign passport with a valid Record of Arrival/Departure (form I–94)

-”Processed for I–551″ stamped in a valid foreign passport

-Permanent Resident Re–entry Permit

-Refugee travel document

-Employment Authorization Card

- Valid I–94 stamped “Refugee,” “Parole or Parolee,” “Asylee,” or

- Mexican Border Crossing Card with valid I–94

Remember: driver’s license does not prove citizenship.

Time Lord on June 17, 2013 at 3:59 PM

‘The right of citizens of the United States to vote shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of race, color, or previous condition of servitude.’
When you allow a non-citizen to vote, then you have abridged my vote, rendered it moon, nonexistent, voided, spindled and mutilated… FU SCOTUS.

rgranger on June 17, 2013 at 4:14 PM

AZ, Kelo, Roe Vs. Wade, One corrupt SC decision after another, and freedom falls.

Don L on June 17, 2013 at 4:27 PM

What I would give to whittle the court down to just Scalia, Thomas, and Alito…

Stoic Patriot on June 17, 2013 at 4:29 PM

We are getting close to a:

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

moment.

Oil Can on June 17, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Nevada just passed a law allowing illegal aliens undocumented hard-workers to get a driving privilege card, so illegal aliens undocumented hard-workers can legally drive to their undocumented jobs — the jobs Americans won’t do — like THESE JOBS.

nah, Americans won’t do those jobs, for that kind of pay and working conditions…..most haven’t gotten that desperate yet, if they ever will, and for those that might be, the illegals ace them out because they usually won’t rat on the employer for the intolerable treatment they get because they really need the little money they earn.

Cheap workforce conditioned to accept poor working conditions.

hawkeye54 on June 17, 2013 at 4:35 PM

We’re screwed.
I never thought that the end of the USA would come this fast.
About the only things remaining for the Left to accomplish are confiscation of retirement funds and hauling conservatives off to camps.

justltl on June 17, 2013 at 4:37 PM

To do that, the progressives must be ousted, in politics and media.

hawkeye54 on June 17, 2013 at 2:51 PM

Wrong verb.

Midas on June 17, 2013 at 4:40 PM

Regarding confiscation of retirement funds, what’s to keep the government from doing that anyway?
It will just be declared a tax.
Americans would be up in arms you say?
Puh-lease.
The moocher half would welcome it.
The pathetic other half would just whine about it and comply.

justltl on June 17, 2013 at 4:53 PM

Ha, just had the best time schooling a John Cornyn for Reelection volunteer who called asking for money.

txmomof6 on June 17, 2013 at 4:56 PM

I used to find some comfort in the words of the Declaration noted above.
Until I realized that it was written for People with actual spines- those are in mighty short supply these days.

justltl on June 17, 2013 at 4:57 PM

Das ist da ende, da ende.

losarkos on June 17, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Voting in any election by an illegal immigrant should be an automatic deportable offence.

Resist We Much on June 17, 2013 at 12:57 PM

It is: see 8 USC § 1227.

Time Lord on June 17, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Who will be the first intrepid “Investigative Reporter” to find out and report how many ILLEGAL aliens have actually been deported for voting in an election?

The American people need to demand that this law be ENFORCED.

wren on June 17, 2013 at 5:03 PM

We are getting close to a:

That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

moment.

Oil Can on June 17, 2013 at 4:34 PM

Passed it awhile back, imo.

Midas on June 17, 2013 at 5:09 PM

What I would give to whittle the court down to just Scalia, Thomas, and Alito…

Stoic Patriot on June 17, 2013 at 4:29 PM

Scalia wrote the opinion for the majority in this case.

Resist We Much on June 17, 2013 at 5:10 PM

losarkos on June 17, 2013 at 5:00 PM

Das Ende? Ich fürchte, dass es ist nur der Anfang, mein freund..

If there is one thing that recent history shows, it’s that Leftists are full bore psycho-sociopaths and will continue their march until people are in abject misery or dead.

justltl on June 17, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Scalia wrote the opinion for the majority in this case.

Resist We Much on June 17, 2013 at 5:10 PM

Yep just when I think I am in love with him after his dissent in Maryland v. King; he pulls something like this. I want a divorce!

melle1228 on June 17, 2013 at 5:20 PM

So; Now who cares if “immigration reform” gets passed?
All together now:
‘AT THIS POINT; WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE?”

Cybergeezer on June 17, 2013 at 5:23 PM

If states are not allowed to protect the right of American citizens living in their state to vote without having their vote cancelled out by a non-citizen, then state and local governments and the American People need to at least help to minimize this threat by doing everything possible to reduce the number of ILLEGAL aliens in their state/city/town.

- End Sanctuary Cities

- Enforce the Secure Communites Act which checks immigration status of people when they are arrested. Alas, some cities refuse to do this.

- End funding for translation services

- Do not print Voter Registration forms in any language other than English.

- Do not print state and local ballot information booklets in any language other than English.

- Boycott any business that hires ILLEGAL aliens

- Boycott any business that allows people to gather in their parking lot in order to get day jobs.

- Publicize businesses that hire ILLEGAL aliens

- Apply peer pressure to anybody you know who hires an ILLEGAL alien as a nanny, landscaper, or any other service provider.

- Question School Boards about how many “English Language Learners” are in your school system to highlight a rough estimate of how many non-English speakers are in your community and how many years these student remain in the “English Language Learner” program.

- Enforce local zoning laws against having large numbers of people living in a single apartment/home.

If you have any other suggestions, please add to this list.

wren on June 17, 2013 at 5:24 PM

Ok. Isn’t lying under other perjury? IMNAL so I could have this wrong.

And aren’t voter registrations public records?

Now add a $1000 bounty on documented illegal registrations and you provide the public with a strong incentive to help catch these folk. And since perjury is a felon(again IMNAL) you get them lined up for deportation as well.

OBQuiet on June 17, 2013 at 5:32 PM

Question School Boards about how many “English Language Learners” are in your school system to highlight a rough estimate of how many non-English speakers are in your community and how many years these student remain in the “English Language Learner” program.

wren on June 17, 2013 at 5:24 PM

I’m not sure where you’re going with this one. The US adds about a million legal permanent residents each year, in addition to about 60-80 thousand refugees. Presumably you want those people to learn English.

Time Lord on June 17, 2013 at 5:37 PM

I’m not sure where you’re going with this one. The US adds about a million legal permanent residents each year, in addition to about 60-80 thousand refugees. Presumably you want those people to learn English.

Time Lord on June 17, 2013 at 5:37 PM

In California, a large percentage of these English Language Learners are ILLEGAL aliens or the children of ILLEGAL aliens.

And many of these students remain in the English Language program for years. Alas, since state education funding provides extra money for English Language Learners, school systems have a financial incentive to keep as many students in these programs as possible for as long as possible.

By shining a spotlight on these programs you and your neighbors can get a better understanding of how much education money is being diverted from educating American children to educating people from other countries who do not speak English. It may or may not be a big problem in your City/Town, but it is a huge and expensive problem in my area.

wren on June 17, 2013 at 6:12 PM

I had no time to briefly check headlines or anything during business hours today. I get in my car around 6 pm and heard this news. The drive home was very long. I was so sad and depressed when I heard this.

Anyone listen to Mark Levin’s rant about this decision this first hour? He educated us on the history of this aspect of the constitution and pointed out how WRONG they are in this decision.

I have never been so discouraged about our country’s future, ever. Between legalizing all of the illegals and then THIS decision, they all will be voting, fraudulently, in 2016. Our republic is lost.

karenhasfreedom on June 17, 2013 at 7:31 PM

wren on June 17, 2013 at 6:12 PM

Wren, I used to live in the Los Angeles area. I knew a family whose daughter was shoveled into one of the ESL classes in Kindergarten and stayed in the ESL classes for the first few years of school. Her parents didn’t realize it, and Jennifer didn’t speak Spanish. So her early education was very deficient (LAUSD) (LA Unified). Why her parents were so unaware, I have no idea. But in general, they do not seem to be in a hurry to move these kids over to English only classes.

karenhasfreedom on June 17, 2013 at 7:34 PM

We are screwed! Now even the Supreme Court is totally liberal (except for Thomas and Alito)!! Et tu Scalia? We already knew about Roberts. Sad for what’s left of our country. Now anyone anywhere anytime can vote. With or without citizenship!!

AnnaS on June 17, 2013 at 7:56 PM

Calm down, people!

We’re not screwed. (At least not by Scalia in this case).

Please go read the decision. Not articles (or worse yet headlines) about what someone in the MM “thinks” (I use that term advisedly) about it.

Scalia is taking the long-term view and has given every state a roadmap to address this issue in the next term should they so chose.

It’s genius, actually.

EdmundBurke247 on June 17, 2013 at 8:45 PM

Wren, I used to live in the Los Angeles area. I knew a family whose daughter was shoveled into one of the ESL classes in Kindergarten and stayed in the ESL classes for the first few years of school. Her parents didn’t realize it, and Jennifer didn’t speak Spanish.

karenhasfreedom on June 17, 2013 at 7:34 PM

Karen,

Your story about Jennifer makes me want to cry! The damage that adults are doing to young children for the sake of political correctness or government funding is an absolute sin.

I also have a young 10 year old friend who made a silly mistake on a single test which got her placed into a remedial class where she was the only white kid in a room full of Hispanic kids who had been bused into her affluent school district. The remedial class was sooooo slow that it was driving this child crazy. Fortunately her Mother successfully fought to get her out of that class, but in the meantime, this little girl missed out on 6 months of a regular 4th grade class.

It is time for adults to start fulfilling their duty to protect younger generations.

wren on June 17, 2013 at 9:37 PM

I’m Canadian, and I love America almost as much as I love my own country, but some things about America baffle me.

Like why is it wrong to ask voters for ID?

You would think that both sides would see how important it is to make sure the voter is eligible to vote.

Johnny 100 Pesos on June 17, 2013 at 10:20 PM

Like why is it wrong to ask voters for ID?

You would think that both sides would see how important it is to make sure the voter is eligible to vote.

Johnny 100 Pesos on June 17, 2013 at 10:20 PM

Well, you see, they do; however, they each see this from a different perspective.

The Republicans see this as important because it preserves the franchise of the voters and helps to prevent election fraud. Therefore, it is important to make sure that voters are eligible to vote.

The Democrats see this as important because inhibiting illegal voters makes their ability to steal elections more difficult and also view the idea of making sure only eligible voters vote as a threat to part of their base — those ineligible voters are going to break democrat with near unanimity since those are the kinds of people who are looking to the government for handouts. Therefore it is important that any attempt to strengthen making sure that only eligible voters are able to vote be absolutely defeated and destroyed.

AZfederalist on June 17, 2013 at 11:47 PM

Have you read this? Actually, the ruling does NOT strike down Arizona’s ability to verify citizenship. It ONLY strikes down Arizona’s ability to check citizenship if the registration is being done with FEDERAL voter registration form. Arizona can still require citizenship if using a STATE voter registration form.

Of the five issues before the court, four of them were settled in favor of Arizona and the remaining issue is easily worked around.

http://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2013/06/17/left-loses-big-in-arizona-supreme-court-case/?singlepage=true

crosspatch on June 18, 2013 at 1:31 AM

From the link I gave in my previous comment:

You might say, “That’s a small victory.” Nonsense. This was the whole ballgame to the groups pushing the Arizona lawsuit. They lost, period.

Next, when voters use a state, as opposed to a federal, form, they can still be required to prove citizenship. The federal form is irrelevant in that circumstance.

After the decision today, states have a green light to do double- and triple-checking even if a registrant uses the federal form. The Left wanted the submission of a federal form to mean automatic no-questions-asked registration. This is a big loss for the Left because now states can put suspect forms in limbo while they run checks against non-citizen databases and jury-response forms. Another significant victory in today’s decision. The Left wanted to strip them of that double-checking power.

The decision today is a great example of how conservatives can be distracted by squirrels running past.

crosspatch on June 18, 2013 at 1:33 AM

So, let me see if I have this correct, I live in a country that can’t control its borders and now you don’t have to prove you’re a citizen to vote. How long will it be before the progressives redefine what a country is? Is there any country in the world that plays by these rules?

The irony is that “progressives” consider this a conservative court. I think they got all of them drunk before this ruling.

bflat879 on June 18, 2013 at 1:57 AM

So much for the constitution.

sadatoni on June 18, 2013 at 7:24 AM

Das Ende? Ich fürchte, dass es ist nur der Anfang, mein freund..

If there is one thing that recent history shows, it’s that Leftists are full bore psycho-sociopaths and will continue their march until people are in abject misery or dead.

justltl on June 17, 2013 at 5:14 PM

Spielt das Lied dreimal ein Paar tanzt still im leeren Saal

onomo on June 18, 2013 at 8:41 AM

If it smells like a rotting fish. . .

TimBuk3 on June 18, 2013 at 9:14 AM

For all of you who are trashing the Supreme Court’s opinion, here is someone else’s opinion. The title of his article is Left Loses Big in Citizenship-Verification Supreme Court Case

Something perverse happened after the Supreme Court’s decision today invalidating citizenship-verification requirements in Arizona for registrants who use the federal voter registration form. The Left knows they lost most of the battle, but are still claiming victory. That’s what they do. Election-integrity proponents and the states are saying they lost, but don’t realize they really won.

The Left wins even when they lose, and conservatives are often bewildered and outfoxed in the election-process game.

Earlier today, I called the decision a nothingburger. After re-reading the case and reflecting a bit more, it’s clear that the decision was a disaster for the Left and their victory cackles are hollow — and they know it.

Worse, conservatives dooms-dayers who have never litigated a single National Voter Registration Act case have taken to the airwaves, describing the case as a disaster which invites illegal-alien voting.

For the rest of the article: http://pjmedia.com/jchristianadams/2013/06/17/left-loses-big-in-arizona-supreme-court-case/

SC.Charlie on June 18, 2013 at 9:21 AM

onomo on June 18, 2013 at 8:41 AM

Ja. Und jetzt kommt die flut.

justltl on June 18, 2013 at 10:06 AM

To a leftist judge law means nothing, it’s all primal power urges. But that’s true of most leftists as well

arand on June 18, 2013 at 10:16 AM

Dear HOT AIR,

I count only half a dozen posters that rationally address the REAL decision. While I enjoy your page, pandering like that done in this article does a great dis-service to rational conservative argumentation. More important, it damages your credibility and brand.

The left spews enought lies for an eternity. Let’s not add to the misinformation and confusion.

I might suggest that if you want to have articles on the Supreme’s, that you obtain a writer that understands something more about a decision than what is written by the MM in its headlines.

If good journalism means looking behind the “statement” to see if the statement is credible, then this post gets a failing grade.

EB

EdmundBurke247 on June 18, 2013 at 11:14 AM

EdmundBurke247 on June 18, 2013 at 11:14 AM

You’re new here, aren’t you?

MJBrutus on June 18, 2013 at 11:57 AM

arand on June 18, 2013 at 10:16 AM

So first Chief Justice Roberts is kicked out of the conservative tree house and now Justice Scalia. The long list of RINO squishes is getting to be quite an honor roll!

MJBrutus on June 18, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Johnny 100 Pesos on June 17, 2013 at 10:20 PM

While I strongly agree that voter ID should be required, it is important to remember how we got here. Specifically, we did commit numerous and widespread abuses in the past to disenfranchise people. From poll taxes to voter tests set up to bar certain categories of people. The result is that protections for voters against being denied their right to vote did become necessary. That said, like so many other areas of government and law, the pendulum has swung way too far and encourages abuse rather than prevents it.

MJBrutus on June 18, 2013 at 12:05 PM

You’re new here, aren’t you?

MJBrutus on June 18, 2013 at 11:57 AM

Not really. I just expect more the headliners (EJ, EM, Allah, MKH, etc.) than I do posters like myself.

If I want hyperbolic drivel, I’ll go read HuffPo, Kos or the NYT as my staple . . . but the rash it gives me . . ..

EdmundBurke247 on June 18, 2013 at 1:41 PM

My editing skills failed me.

Please insert “from” between “the” and “headliners”.

EB

EdmundBurke247 on June 18, 2013 at 1:45 PM

SCOTUS => Amendment Shredders

Carnac on June 18, 2013 at 1:45 PM

Hey, the answer is simple. Repeal the Motor Voter law.

SC.Charlie on June 18, 2013 at 2:03 PM

the pendulum has swung way too far and encourages abuse rather than prevents it.

MJBrutus on June 18, 2013 at 12:05 PM

“Encourages”? To err on the side of tryanny for caution sake?

Not really. I just expect more the headliners (EJ, EM, Allah, MKH, etc.) than I do posters like myself.

If I want hyperbolic drivel, I’ll go read HuffPo, Kos or the NYT as my staple . . . but the rash it gives me . . ..

EdmundBurke247 on June 18, 2013 at 1:41 PM

Look you may be way ahead of the curve on this, and I so hope you’re right, but so far the results of all the, “We’ve got them right where we want them” analogies presented against this progressive regime have left much to be desired. So forgive us for our little pity party here, but the AP propoganda already has this painted (once more) as a victory for all that is just and good, and I’m sick of losing and then being smeared by the lies of the left.

justltl on June 18, 2013 at 10:06 AM

And if we break before the dawn, They’ll use up what we used to be.

onomo on June 18, 2013 at 2:10 PM

onomo on June 18, 2013 at 2:10 PM

I could be wrong, but here’s my assessment of the AP propoganda – if I’d just eaten a s###-sandwich, licked my fingers, and told everyone I liked it BEFORE before I’d found out what was in it, I’d keep saying it was great, too.

SC Charlie posted a link to a PJ Media article higher up the page which is – in my very humble opinion – a more accurate summary of what Scalia actually did. It’s a good read and should give you hope.

As for Scalia, I have a whole new appreciation for the man.

EdmundBurke247 on June 18, 2013 at 3:58 PM

EdmundBurke247 on June 18, 2013 at 3:58 PM

Oh no question on the AP s### sandwich. Never looks right, never smells right, and I’ll be damned if they don’t always shove it in my face telling me it’s the truth and it’s tasty.
PJ is sound. Appreciate it and I’ll check it. But please allow for gloom and doom. Not been much to hope for of late.

onomo on June 18, 2013 at 6:41 PM

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