Quotes of the day

posted at 10:01 pm on June 17, 2013 by Allahpundit

All those Americans who were worried that the NSA could be abusing its alarmingly wide discretion to collect telephone data to track their locations can now rest easy. The Wall Street Journal reports that, while NSA officials are legally allowed to use data ”that can pinpoint the location of callers,” they choose not to.

Because of concerns about intruding on Americans civil liberties? Nah. Mainly because “the data doesn’t provide sufficient intelligence value to justify the resources that would be required to use it.”…

As Locke labored to point out, much of the task of governance is ultimately a matter of prudence. But saying, ‘Trust us, we’re good guys” is not a particularly reassuring defense — especially from this administration.

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Question:

Why did you wait to release the documents if you said you wanted to tell the world about the NSA programs since before Obama became president?

Answer:

Obama’s campaign promises and election gave me faith that he would lead us toward fixing the problems he outlined in his quest for votes. Many Americans felt similarly. Unfortunately, shortly after assuming power, he closed the door on investigating systemic violations of law, deepened and expanded several abusive programs, and refused to spend the political capital to end the kind of human rights violations like we see in Guantanamo, where men still sit without charge…

This disclosure provides Obama an opportunity to appeal for a return to sanity, constitutional policy, and the rule of law rather than men. He still has plenty of time to go down in history as the President who looked into the abyss and stepped back, rather than leaping forward into it. I would advise he personally call for a special committee to review these interception programs, repudiate the dangerous “State Secrets” privilege, and, upon preparing to leave office, begin a tradition for all Presidents forthwith to demonstrate their respect for the law by appointing a special investigator to review the policies of their years in office for any wrongdoing. There can be no faith in government if our highest offices are excused from scrutiny – they should be setting the example of transparency.

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Charlie Rose: But there is a balance here.

Barack Obama: But there is a balance, so I’m going to get to your — get to your question. The way I view it, my job is both to protect the American people and to protect the American way of life, which includes our privacy. And so every program that we engage in, what I’ve said is “Let’s examine and make sure that we’re making the right tradeoffs.” Now, with respect to the NSA, a government agency that has been in the intelligence gathering business for a very long time —…

Barack Obama: It is transparent. That’s why we set up the FISA court…. The whole point of my concern, before I was president — because some people say, “Well, you know, Obama was this raving liberal before. Now he’s, you know, Dick Cheney.” Dick Cheney sometimes says, “Yeah, you know? He took it all lock, stock, and barrel.” My concern has always been not that we shouldn’t do intelligence gathering to prevent terrorism, but rather are we setting up a system of checks and balances? So, on this telephone program, you’ve got a federal court with independent federal judges overseeing the entire program. And you’ve got Congress overseeing the program, not just the intelligence committee and not just the judiciary committee — but all of Congress had available to it before the last reauthorization exactly how this program works.

Now, one last point I want to make, because what you’ll hear is people say, “Okay, we have no evidence that it has been abused so far.” And they say, “Let’s even grant that Obama’s not abusing it, that all these processes — DOJ is examining it. It’s being renewed periodically, et cetera — the very fact that there is all this data in bulk, it has the enormous potential for abuse,” because they’ll say, you know, “You can — when you start looking at metadata, even if you don’t know the names, you can match it up, if there’s a call to an oncologist, and there’s a call to a lawyer, and — you can pair that up and figure out maybe this person’s dying, and they’re writing their will, and you can yield all this information.” All of that is true. Except for the fact that for the government, under the program right now, to do that, it would be illegal.

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The three-page document regarding the NSA programs was released to congressional intelligence committees and states the plots were thwarted in the U.S. and more than 20 other countries. The data is destroyed every five years, according to the document.

The officials also said the NSA checked just 300 phone numbers last year against its database of millions of U.S. phone records gathered daily, an attempt to argue the surveillance programs are less sweeping than alleged.

They also said they are working to declassify information on the dozens of plots NSA chief Gen. Keith Alexander said were disrupted, to show Americans the value of the programs, but said they want to make sure they don’t inadvertently reveal parts of the U.S. counterterrorism playbook in the process.

***

Asked whether Obama feels he has violated the privacy of Americans, McDonough said, “He does not.”…

McDonough said Congress authorized the programs as a way to thwart plots against Americans and that lawmakers should stay up to date on how they are run. The administration has said the program collected only “metadata” – raw information that does not identify individual telephone subscribers and did not monitor calls.

The president is not saying ‘trust me.’ The president is saying I want every member of Congress, on whose authority we are running this program, to understand it, to be briefed about it, and to be comfortable with it,” he said.

***

When first asked about the program by a reporter June 7, Obama said he trusts in the oversight system in place, and gave assurances that the system involves all three branches of government. “In the abstract, you can complain about Big Brother and how this is a potential program run amok,” he said, “but when you actually look at the details, then I think we’ve struck the right balance.”

But the ordinary citizen can’t look at the details.

In the same answer, the president said, “I welcome this debate. And I think it’s healthy for our democracy.”

But we wouldn’t be having this debate if everyone followed the law and there was no leak.

***

As much as the conspiratorial left and right would like to believe that big super-secret bureaucracies like the NSA are easily capable of violating our constitutional rights, the truth is surely the other way round: Civil liberties are much more likely to be in danger when smaller organizations—the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the CIA, or the Secret Service—with specific, highly selective targeting requirements, abuse their surveillance authority or, in the case of Langley with its drones, their war-related authority. And it’s doubtful that the national-security institutions since 9/11 have engaged in practices that fundamentally challenge anyone’s constitutional rights—the possible big exceptions would be the FBI’s counterterrorist practices against militant Muslim Americans that have occasionally tiptoed close to entrapment and the bureau’s extensive use of national-security letters that can allow curious minds to wander freely through the personal lives of targeted individuals. If the government sensibly gives the Secret Service the capacity to intercept cellular telephone calls as a means to protect preemptively American VIPs, its officers may well monitor the salacious conversations of Washington celebrities or sexually adventurous co-eds at the Naval Academy in Annapolis, Maryland. Adults are always required to ensure that such practices don’t become anything more than bad-boy behavior. All organizations run amok unless adults are present.

The huge high-tech intelligence bureaucracies, like smaller outfits such as the operations and technology directorates within the CIA, are extremely difficult for senior government officials to manipulate and abuse because of the many overlapping and checking authorities in these institutions. Unlike the IRS, intelligence agencies are not designed to interact with the citizenry, nor do they have or want prosecutorial power. The intelligence agencies grow uneasy, sometimes even too cautious, when foreign threats develop a domestic dimension…

This is the better question provoked by Snowden’s paranoia: How much money has Congress spent on these data-collection projects? We are told, both by administration officials and by congressmen, that the NSA’s PRISM project, marrying Ft. Meade with Silicon Valley, has stopped numerous terrorist attacks. Perhaps. But it would behoove us all to question that assertion.

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Worst of all, the cult of the whistleblower reveals the mainstreaming of conspiratorial thinking, of the belief that dark forces rule over a weak and emaciated public that is kept in blissful ignorance. The crossover between respectable worshippers of whistleblowers and irrational purveyors of crank theories is great. So Alex Jones, infamous conspiracy theorist, is naturally a massive fan of Snowden. Today’s Guardian has a list of ‘brave whistleblowers’, which includes Annie Machon, formerly of MI5 and now a notorious ‘9/11 Truther’. That former icon Assange has written cranky essays with titles like ‘Conspiracy as Governance’. Meanwhile, a top Guardian columnist says the Snowden revelations ‘seem to confirm all the old bug-eyed conspiracy theories about governments and corporations colluding to enslave the rest of us’.

That’s the real impact of the cult of the whistleblower – the further promotion, among polite society as well as impolite, of the idea that evil networks control the unenlightened horde. It isn’t true. Yes, there are numerous attacks on our civil liberties today, but you know what? We are more than capable of seeing who is carrying them out, and of doing something about them, without needing a secular icon of ‘truth’ to hold our hands or massage our allegedly tiny minds.

***

If this poll is part of a trend, Obama still may be able to recover. But he would need to take immediate steps to show accountability, transparency, and credibility.

No more slow-walking the truth as the White House did with the cause of the Benghazi attacks and with the names of West Wing officials notified about IRS targeting.

No more lies, such as the IRS claiming for months that the targeting did not take place, and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper denying the existence of the NSA programs weeks before they were revealed.

No more doublespeak such as the president earnestly claiming, “Your duly elected representatives have consistently been informed” of the NSA programs. He knew that wasn’t quite true, or should have known…

There is no time to waste. Obama already has earned the ignominious distinction of running against Bush’s surveillance programs, then adapting it as president, and expanding it. Does he also want to repeat his predecessor’s credibility crisis?

***

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He explained, “I once asked a collective group, the big nine [congressional leaders], in the spring of ’04, in the briefing when we first briefed them and said, ‘Do you think we ought to continue the program,’ and they said absolutely yes. I said, ‘Do you think we ought to go back to Congress to get additional authorization,’ and they said absolutely not. It’ll leak.”

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Anti-Control on June 18, 2013 at 2:35 AM

Riviera Paradise – SRV

thatsafactjack on June 18, 2013 at 2:36 AM

VorDaj on June 18, 2013 at 2:3

Excellent point. :) I like your thinking.

thatsafactjack on June 18, 2013 at 2:37 AM

Fade To Black – Dire Straits

I bid you all a fond goodnight. It’s been a pleasure, as always.

Live in the moment…

…and…

“Keep yourselves where the light is.”

thatsafactjack on June 18, 2013 at 2:46 AM

Dire Straits was here!!..:)

Dire Straits on June 18, 2013 at 3:21 AM

Dire Straits was here!!..:)

Dire Straits on June 18, 2013 at 3:21 AM

Dire is “Here, There And Everywhere”

Anti-Control on June 18, 2013 at 3:44 AM

Is commenting not working? My comments aren’t posting.

bluegill on June 18, 2013 at 4:57 AM

http://www.spiked-online.com/site/article/13698/

Worst of all, the cult of the whistleblower reveals the mainstreaming of conspiratorial thinking, of the belief that dark forces rule over a weak and emaciated public that is kept in blissful ignorance. The crossover between respectable worshippers of whistleblowers and irrational purveyors of crank theories is great. So Jones, infamous conspiracy theorist, is naturally a massive fan of Snowden. Today’s Guardian has a list of ‘brave whistleblowers’, which includes Annie Machon, formerly of MI5 and now a notorious ‘9/11 Truther’. That former icon Assange has written cranky essays with titles like ‘Conspiracy as Governance’. Meanwhile, a top Guardian columnist says the Snowden revelations ‘seem to confirm all the old bug-eyed conspiracy theories about governments and corporations colluding to enslave the rest of us’.

Yes!

I hope you all read this piece.

This is what I’ve been trying to tell you all during the last week.

You guys are better than some of what I’ve seen here in the comments.

bluegill on June 18, 2013 at 5:01 AM

Worst of all, the cult of the whistleblower reveals the mainstreaming of conspiratorial thinking, of the belief that dark forces rule over a weak and emaciated public that is kept in blissful ignorance. The crossover between respectable worshippers of whistleblowers and irrational purveyors of crank theories is great. So Jones, infamous conspiracy theorist, is naturally a massive fan of Snowden. Today’s Guardian has a list of ‘brave whistleblowers’, which includes Annie Machon, formerly of MI5 and now a notorious ‘9/11 Truther’. That former icon Assange has written cranky essays with titles like ‘Conspiracy as Governance’. Meanwhile, a top Guardian columnist says the Snowden revelations ‘seem to confirm all the old bug-eyed conspiracy theories about governments and corporations colluding to enslave the rest of us’.

YES!

I hope you all read this piece.

This is what I’ve been trying to tell you all during the last week.

You guys are better than some of what I’ve seen here in the comments.

bluegill on June 18, 2013 at 5:02 AM

Snowden, showing a little lot of leftardism:

Addressing the backlash against him in the US, Snowden said much of it was predictable. He said: “It’s important to bear in mind I’m being called a traitor by men like former vice president Dick Cheney. This is a man who gave us the warrantless wiretapping scheme as a kind of atrocity warm-up on the way to deceitfully engineering a conflict that has killed over 4,400 and maimed nearly 32,000 Americans, as well as leaving over 100,000 Iraqis dead. Being called a traitor by Dick Cheney is the highest honor you can give an American.”

He also defended Pfc. Bradley Manning, currently on trial for leaking military secrets related to America’s wars in the Middle East.

Snowden called the idea that Manning had dumped documents without regard to national security or safety “not a valid assertion” and a “smear.”

Anti-Control on June 18, 2013 at 5:13 AM

More leftardism from the “astute” Snowden:

Snowden, who spent a decade working with various defence contractors on secondment to the CIA and the NSA as a communications specialist, reiterated that he had delayed going public because of his hope that Barack Obama‘s election would mark a sea change but he had ended up disillusioned.

“Unfortunately, shortly after assuming power, he closed the door on investigating systemic violations of law, deepened and expanded several abusive programs, and refused to spend the political capital to end the kind of human rights violations like we see in Guantánamo, where men still sit without charge,” he said.

Anti-Control on June 18, 2013 at 5:15 AM

Anyone who tries to tell me that Snowden is a serious patriot, and not a self-righteous anarchist-type, be prepared to see me LOL…

Anti-Control on June 18, 2013 at 5:20 AM

I’m increasingly feeling like we need to unite behind Cruz strongly and early.

I believe he is the one. The man is strong and capable as anything. Cruz is virile and aggressive in a way that Romney wasn’t. Cruz won’t roll over and take the smears, he won’t just turn the other cheek. He’ll return fire and he’ll do it with style. He is careful, smart and comes off as calm and dignified, but also firm and sincere in his beliefs.

He’s the only one who (I hope) wouldn’t cave on amnesty.
Walker, Paul and of course Rubio are all willing to go along with the “pathway to citizenship” crap. And Chris Christie? Do I even have to comment on that slob?

The choice is becoming very clear. We need to avoid a damaging, unhelpful, bloody primary

The Dems are doing all try can to tar Cruz now. Most people haven’t a clue who the man is. How Cruz introduces himself to the wider audience (low info voters and non-political junkies) will be very important.

The good thing about Cruz is that he doesn’t seem prone to terrible verbal gaffes.

Here is how they will portray Cruz: “evil, crazy, extreme.” Of course none of those things are true, but we should all be anticipating it.

bluegill on June 18, 2013 at 5:52 AM

what a crock….transparent my left foot….

funny, the nsa is still looking for digital exploitation analysts, correct?

cmsinaz on June 18, 2013 at 6:31 AM

bluegill on June 18, 2013 at 5:52 AM

well said BG

cmsinaz on June 18, 2013 at 6:33 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! It’s way past time for a World Famous KJ Rant.
“Power, Perks, and Privilege: Washingron Vs. the U.S.A.” My take.

kingsjester on June 18, 2013 at 6:41 AM

so the mj crew has a problem with cornyn having 3 pensions…

seriously, there is so much going on inthe word, and you’re worried about someone who has 3 pensions…

puhleeze

cmsinaz on June 18, 2013 at 6:47 AM

kingsjester on June 18, 2013 at 6:41 AM

good morning KJ

another excellent take…read it folks…

cmsinaz on June 18, 2013 at 6:50 AM

cmsinaz on June 18, 2013 at 6:50 AM

Thank you, ma’am!

kingsjester on June 18, 2013 at 6:55 AM

so the mj crew has a problem with cornyn having 3 pensions…

cmsinaz on June 18, 2013 at 6:47 AM

Any suggestion that he isn’t entitled to any of the pensions he is getting? If not they really need to STFU and mind their own business. This isn’t an issue.

Why don’t they go out after all those military and first responder folks who end up with two pensions by the end of their career. If three pensions are evil then two are likewise bad. I really really really want to see a worthless waste of oxygen like Mika, who never has worked in a real job, defend the idea that somebody who has served in combat doesn’t deserve a pension after 20+ years of service to the nation.

Happy Nomad on June 18, 2013 at 7:01 AM

love fest between christie and mika and joe right now

blech…

cmsinaz on June 18, 2013 at 7:02 AM

Washingron Vs. the U.S.A.” My take.

kingsjester on June 18, 2013 at 6:41 AM

Washingron?

Happy Nomad on June 18, 2013 at 7:02 AM

Happy Nomad on June 18, 2013 at 7:01 AM

agree not an issue, don’t know why they felt they needed to report it except that he has an R next to his name….

cmsinaz on June 18, 2013 at 7:04 AM

love fest between christie and mika and joe right now

blech…

cmsinaz on June 18, 2013 at 7:02 AM

Hey it isn’t real love until Christie dry humps their leg- like he did with Obama on that beach after Hurricane Sandy.

Happy Nomad on June 18, 2013 at 7:04 AM

Happy Nomad on June 18, 2013 at 7:04 AM

they’re praising his decision to hang out with Bubba…

cmsinaz on June 18, 2013 at 7:09 AM

Happy Nomad on June 18, 2013 at 7:02 AM

It’s early.

kingsjester on June 18, 2013 at 7:11 AM

If this poll is part of a trend, Obama still may be able to recover. But he would need to take immediate steps to show accountability, transparency, and credibility.

Yup, and my grandmother can still return to virginity if she divorces grandpa and goes into that convent…..

Some things can never be recovered–trust is but one.

Don L on June 18, 2013 at 7:14 AM

they’re praising his decision to hang out with Bubba…

cmsinaz on June 18, 2013 at 7:09 AM

Well of course they are. Nothing says bipartisan like gushing over and dry humping the enemy candidate days before the election and then cancelling all further appearances with your party’s guy.

Happy Nomad on June 18, 2013 at 7:15 AM

It’s early.

kingsjester on June 18, 2013 at 7:11 AM

Just making sure you were not talking about bathing the senior Mr. Paul. ;-0

Happy Nomad on June 18, 2013 at 7:16 AM

Happy Nomad on June 18, 2013 at 7:15 AM

yup

cmsinaz on June 18, 2013 at 7:17 AM

Happy Nomad on June 18, 2013 at 7:16 AM

LOL. Nope. Tin foil haits and isolationism were not mentioned. :)

kingsjester on June 18, 2013 at 7:18 AM

Some things can never be recovered–trust is but one.

Don L on June 18, 2013 at 7:14 AM

True but the rat-eared tyrant could take some steps where a distrustful public has at least some confidence in their government.

I love the latest spin from one of the partisan whores who got fired from the IRS. Nothing sinister in targeting “tea party” groups- that was just shorthand for any group that might have a political agenda. Yeah right. Show me one liberal group that had to wait three years for an IRS response or was told they couldn’t use their First Amendment rights if they wanted their tax exemption. How stupid does this whore think we are?

Happy Nomad on June 18, 2013 at 7:20 AM

obama really thinks putin will side with the us over syria…

yeah
/

cmsinaz on June 18, 2013 at 7:28 AM

cmsinaz on June 18, 2013 at 7:28 AM

Obama has an impossible time believing someone would dare tell him ‘no’ and get away with it.

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 7:34 AM

Civil liberties are much more likely to be in danger when smaller organizations—the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the CIA, or the Secret Service—with specific, highly selective targeting requirements, abuse their surveillance authority or, in the case of Langley with its drones, their war-related authority.

That’s because, you know, large organizations with wide-ranging capability and seeking to collect data on every man, woman and child in the US can never, ever abuse its power… because it has, you know, ‘oversight’, which never fails and the officials never lie to Congress and the people who run it never lie to the IG or investigators… its those smaller operations that ought to worry you, not Big Brother.

Big Brother is your friend.

Big is Better and Big Brother is the Biggest Brother you will ever have and Big Brother will always tell the truth, never deceive, and never threaten you with wide ranging information gathered from all the Little Brothers, like the IRS, CIA and FBI. That, you see will not happen… Big Brother is easy to see at work and doesn’t have thousands of places to hide program details that investigators want to find out about… it would NEVER do that.

And, yeah, they all need adult supervision.

So does a frat house.

The NSA frat house needs to be closed down and the party put to an end as no one trusts it anymore. Save for those with blind trust in government, but they want Big Brother. They want to be a subject of government, not a self-directed citizen holding government to account for its actions.

ajacksonian on June 18, 2013 at 7:34 AM

kingsjester on June 18, 2013 at 7:11 AM

I thought it was a play on words: Enron – Washingron.

esr1951 on June 18, 2013 at 7:36 AM

esr1951 on June 18, 2013 at 7:36 AM

LOL!

kingsjester on June 18, 2013 at 7:37 AM

Obama has an impossible time believing someone would dare tell him ‘no’ and get away with it.

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 7:34 AM

You mean besides the shaved Yeti, right? I bet he hears no all the time from her.

What I’d like to know is what the long term strategy the rat-eared tyrant has in mind for Syria and the middle east. So we arm the Al Qaeda backed “rebels” against Assad. What happens when the current regime topples? What then? Has this worthless bastard learned nothing from his misadventures in Libya? Egypt? Afghanistan?

I know, I’m asking rhetorical questions.

Happy Nomad on June 18, 2013 at 7:40 AM

kingsjester on June 18, 2013 at 7:37 AM

Well, it fits, n’est ce pas?

esr1951 on June 18, 2013 at 7:49 AM

Happy Nomad on June 18, 2013 at 7:40 AM

I don’t think Obama considers consequences as a matter of his overblown ego; the future is an abstract. His only reality consists of now, what he wants. It’s an infantile kind of mind, like how a toddler playing with matches has no concept of what happens when you set the living room drapes on fire. To the toddler, the match eventually goes out by itself with no harm done, so why wouldn’t the drapes, too? Add in Obama’s innate aloofness and disregard for others, and you have a disaster on your hands.

Bush’s people screwed up the aftermath of the Iraq War by serious underestimation and bad planning. Obama doesn’t want to think that far ahead in any of his ventures, will blame others for the results of his bad ideas, and he won’t care anyway.

There’s always some new thing he’ll demand to occupy his present.

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 7:50 AM

Good Morning, Patriots! It’s way past time for a World Famous KJ Rant.
“Power, Perks, and Privilege: Washingron Vs. the U.S.A.” My take.

kingsjester on June 18, 2013 at 6:41 AM

…I love it when you rant!

KOOLAID2 on June 18, 2013 at 7:55 AM

KOOLAID2 on June 18, 2013 at 7:55 AM

Good morning! And a reminder nobody notices you, like that one troll said. (please note I forget the name of the troll! LOL)

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 7:58 AM

Is commenting not working? My comments aren’t posting.

blueball on June 18, 2013 at 4:57 AM

…only in…OUR… wettist dreams!

KOOLAID2 on June 18, 2013 at 7:58 AM

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 7:50 AM

I agree. And the other point is that most of us have no frame of reference for understanding such out of control egotism and narcissism. The tendency, for normal people, is to keep trying to understand his behavior based on people we have known, but most of us are not capable of understanding at this level.

esr1951 on June 18, 2013 at 7:58 AM

No more slow-walking the truth as the White House did with the cause of the Benghazi attacks and with the names of West Wing officials notified about IRS targeting.

LOL. “Slow-walking the truth”?

Is that the new euphemism for “bald-faced lying”?

AZCoyote on June 18, 2013 at 8:00 AM

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 7:58 AM

…(it’s taking a long time… to get under his skin!…I’ll keep plodding!)

KOOLAID2 on June 18, 2013 at 8:01 AM

I don’t think Obama considers consequences as a matter of his overblown ego; the future is an abstract. His only reality consists of now, what he wants. It’s an infantile kind of mind,

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 7:50 AM

I’m not sure it is even that complicated. The man is stupid and lazy. He expects others to clean up his messes, take the fall for his failings, etc. If you look at the rat-eared tyrant’s career he has always gotten away with this strategy before because he had always moved on before the chickens came home to roost. These scandals are, in part, the consequences of sticking around for a second term.

Happy Nomad on June 18, 2013 at 8:03 AM

I agree. And the other point is that most of us have no frame of reference for understanding such out of control egotism and narcissism. The tendency, for normal people, is to keep trying to understand his behavior based on people we have known, but most of us are not capable of understanding at this level.

esr1951 on June 18, 2013 at 7:58 AM

It’s as if he lacks even the basic grasp of right and wrong. Even serial killers know their crimes are wrong. They just don’t care. Obama seems to lack even that much. I also don’t think it’s a result of a bad childhood, and of what’s available of his history indicates he had a pretty good one.

Maybe those scars on his head are an indicator? Either he had serious physical injury, or a psych eval has a lot of explanation by a professional.

With his medical records sealed, we’ll never know for sure.

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 8:05 AM

Happy Nomad on June 18, 2013 at 8:03 AM

What frosts my cookies is how the LSM keep letting him skate by on everything. If my ex had been like that, I’d likely still be married. LOL

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 8:07 AM

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 8:05 AM

Read the Sociopath Next Door by Martha Stout.

esr1951 on June 18, 2013 at 8:16 AM

I *wish* Obama was more like Dick Cheney.

Midas on June 18, 2013 at 8:20 AM

I agree. And the other point is that most of us have no frame of reference for understanding such out of control egotism and narcissism. The tendency, for normal people, is to keep trying to understand his behavior based on people we have known, but most of us are not capable of understanding at this level.

esr1951 on June 18, 2013 at 7:58 AM

This.

I’m not drawing a direct comparison, but it’s the same reason most of us seem to be unable to comprehend terrorism – we can’t wrap our brains around that behavior, and keep expecting them to behave ‘normally’, and are continually surprised when they don’t.

Same with liberals, Obama in particular. We expect them to act rationally, intelligently, ‘normally’ in terms of what’s good for the country, given history and evidence, etc – and are continually surprised when they don’t.

Midas on June 18, 2013 at 8:22 AM

so the mj crew has a problem with cornyn having 3 pensions…

seriously, there is so much going on inthe word, and you’re worried about someone who has 3 pensions…

puhleeze

cmsinaz on June 18, 2013 at 6:47 AM

In IL, we call a person with three pensions a slacker. There is one person now who is in her mid-50s, in her fifth government job. I somewhat understand mika’s position, because IL is loaded with double-dippers, it is a game to them…to see how they can gouge the taxpayers. But when one has served the country in the military, and then works for the government afterward, one is fairly entitled to those pensions. It is when you get the Milke Madigans and the Monique Bonds and the Todd Strogers being so transparently greedy about it, that is when the anger sets in.

herm2416 on June 18, 2013 at 8:27 AM

Why doesn’t Mika mention Perfect Leader? State senator, US senator, president–three pensions AND lifetime protection, probably for Valerie, as well. More than likely, he will create president emeritus, another pension!

herm2416 on June 18, 2013 at 8:30 AM

herm2416 on June 18, 2013 at 8:30 AM

Liberals always count on the ignorance and short memory of the public so they aren’t held to the same standard to which they hold everyone else. It’s never helpful to a desired easy victory if your opponent has a cudgel as big as yours, especially if you gave it to him in the first place.

Liam on June 18, 2013 at 8:36 AM

KOOLAID2 on June 18, 2013 at 7:55 AM

Thank you!

kingsjester on June 18, 2013 at 9:09 AM

You mean besides the shaved Yeti, right? I bet he hears no all the time from her.

Happy Nomad on June 18, 2013 at 7:40 AM

I bet he never asks. Her, at least.

cptacek on June 18, 2013 at 9:38 AM

williamg on June 18, 2013 at 12:50 AM

Yeah, but Cheney said yesterday that he would have gone in sooner That McCain has it absolutely right on Syria.

And he also said that we can completely trust the NSA, that Alexander would never do anything improper.

LegendHasIt on June 18, 2013 at 12:57 AM

Did I miss something? Or did Cheney get re-elected as VP this week?

Is Bush in The White House? Or is it Obama?

Or are you just adopting the same position that Liberals do when one points out the fallibility and faux pas of Obama – act like Bush and Cheney are still in The White House and talk about THEM?

Yeah – I believe that OBAMA is in The White House and OBAMA has created the problems with this program that are being discovered now.

Playing into the hands of Liberals by denigrating Cheney and Bush – while Obama is screwing and screwing up the country is not something I find helpful at all.

williamg on June 18, 2013 at 1:14 PM

Yes!

I hope you all read this piece.

This is what I’ve been trying to tell you all during the last week.

You guys are better than some of what I’ve seen here in the comments.

bluegill on June 18, 2013 at 5:01 AM

Yep, good point there…

We are more than capable of seeing who is carrying them out, and of doing something about them, without needing a secular icon of ‘truth’ to hold our hands or massage our allegedly tiny minds.

See if we didn’t have whistle-blowers we would only hear the lies, only know that they’re NOT spying on us, not know the truth, and not worry because we’d trust the lies.

The LIES are good, and the TRUTH Is evil and must be stopped… without the truth the lies would be acceptable.

That IS what you’ve been trying to tell us for the last week or so… don’t believe the truth, trust the lies we now can prove false with this leaked data… only the lies will set you free; the truth cannot be trusted.

Sadly people still aren’t listening to you and they’re seeking the truth and not trusting the lies… that really bothers you doesn’t it?

gekkobear on June 18, 2013 at 2:48 PM

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