Newest Snowden leak: NSA intercepted Russian president’s communications at 2009 G20 summit

posted at 11:53 am on June 17, 2013 by Allahpundit

On Saturday, the South China Morning Post reported that he showed them documents identifying the IP addresses of Chinese computers that had been hacked by NSA. Yesterday the Guardian revealed that he’d showed them NSA documents alleging that the agency accessed Medvedev’s communications at the G20 summit four years ago. Coincidentally, this year’s G8 summit opens today in Northern Ireland. The new scoop is obviously timed to maximize America’s embarrassment.

Are we done pretending that this guy is interested only, or even primarily, in exposing violations of Americans’ civil liberties? He’s not opposed to the U.S. government spying on its citizens. He’s opposed to the U.S. government spying, period, even if the information gleaned from foreign espionage ultimately benefits Americans. The patriot/traitor calculus is starting to shift.

The document, leaked by the NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden and seen by the Guardian, shows the agency believed it might have discovered “a change in the way Russian leadership signals have been normally transmitted”…

The report says: “This is an analysis of signal activity in support of President Dmitry Medvedev’s visit to London. The report details a change in the way Russian leadership signals have been normally transmitted. The signal activity was found to be emanating from the Russian embassy in London and the communications are believed to be in support of the Russian president.”

The NSA interception of the Russian leadership at G20 came hours after Obama and Medvedev had met for the first time. Relations between the two leaders had been smoothed in the runup to the summit with a series of phone calls and letters, with both men wanting to establish a trusting relationship to discuss the ongoing banking crisis and nuclear disarmament.

Did the Russians know that we found out that they were transmitting signals in a different way? They do now. For good measure, the Guardian’s latest update this morning is that British spies also monitored foreign diplomats’ communications at the 2009 G20. So now the host country for this week’s G8 is embarrassed too, and of course it’ll be reluctant to share information on foreign intelligence with NSA for fear of further humiliating leaks. Maybe this explains why he leaked the PRISM stuff and the FISA order targeting Verizon first — he wanted to make a splash by exposing domestic surveillance so that he’d have more of a spotlight for the subsequent Wikileaks-ish revelations he was planning on U.S. foreign spying. If you believe Eric Bolling, even Snowden’s own father is urging him not to leak anymore.

Via Mediaite, here’s the White House enlisting two of its most trusted surrogates for pushback. Exit question: If Snowden managed to find info on NSA’s servers about what the Brits were doing at the G20, did he also manage to find information that would embarrass America’s enemies? If so, is he planning to leak that, or is this one of those very familiar scenarios (again, a la Wikileaks) where top priority is embarrassing western governments, not oppressive governments?


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Question:
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Ryan Latvaitis
17 June 2013 2:34pm

What would you say to others who are in a position to leak classified information that could improve public understanding of the intelligence apparatus of the USA and its effect on civil liberties?

What evidence do you have that refutes the assertion that the NSA is unable to listen to the content of telephone calls without an explicit and defined court order from FISC?

Answer:

This country is worth dying for.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/17/edward-snowden-nsa-files-whistleblower?guni=Network%20front:network-front%20main-2%20Special%20trail:Network%20front%20-%20special%20trail:Position1

davidk on June 17, 2013 at 1:54 PM

SNOWDEN: The Truth Is Coming, And The Government Can’t Stop It By Murdering Me

What better cause to die for than the freedom of one’s land?

Arrangements are mad, live or die.

Schadenfreude on June 17, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Snowden is a pitch perfect example of the inconsistencies around here. If his revaluations had the possibility of hurting a republican administration you guys would have been all over the condemnations and reprisals, if Sarah was president when it happened.

But since it’s Obama, and it’s politically advantageous many of you are willing to let those waters be a little muddied with no problems.

At least some, and it seems most of the admin’s here, are BEGINNING to show a little consistency now that he’s blatantly selling us out to our adversaries.

But you see how the stories, the angles, and the strategies change from being in power, to being a minority in power?

It’s all just a game. And many of you just buy right in. Kinda sad really, as it only continues our path down the same road we’ve always been traveling.

Genuine on June 17, 2013 at 2:11 PM

They can attack him all the want, and he may be a “bad guy”, but the fact still remains, the NSA overstepped their boundaries.

It doesn’t matter if the carrier of the information is a creep, traitor, thief, whatever, the fact still remains.

The government is stepping over the constitution.

right2bright on June 17, 2013 at 2:12 PM

Snowden is a pitch perfect example of the inconsistencies around here. If his revaluations had the possibility of hurting a republican administration you guys would have been all over the condemnations and reprisals, if Sarah was president when it happened.

Genuine on June 17, 2013 at 2:11 PM

Well genius, guess what? It didn’t happen under your examples, it happened under a liberal administration, and the IRS under the same admin also attacked conservative organizations…what a coincidence.

Also an administration who just happened to have gotten an advantage over leaked documents during a campaign, what a coincidence.

Get it? No, you won’t…connect the dots? No, you can’t…

No matter who is in charge, the government overstepped the constitution, in the NSA and the IRS…doesn’t matter what side of the aisle is in charge, it is wrong, just so happened it seems to be the liberals side more often.

right2bright on June 17, 2013 at 2:17 PM

Genuine on June 17, 2013 at 2:11 PM

Troll better.

MadisonConservative on June 17, 2013 at 2:20 PM

Snowden has indeed entered the traitor zone.

https://www.cia.gov/about-cia/cia-museum/experience-the-collection/text-version/stories/the-berlin-tunnel.html

Not mentioned in the CIA article: The guy whose brainchild the operation was defended the portion of the tunnel which passed into West Berlin with a .50cal tripod mounted machinegun. He cocked the gun as he heard the Russians coming down the tunnel. Hearing the sound, the Russians turned around and went back…

I think Mr. Snowden is the equivalent of Mr. Blake. A douchebag of the highest order.

unclesmrgol on June 17, 2013 at 2:41 PM

Genuine on June 17, 2013 at 2:11 PM

Obama is a cult of personality enabled by a mob of low information voters, deep pocketed donors, and a complicit media. The only way to stall his agenda is to tear away his credibility by making him look like a hypocrite. We knew what Bush stood for, Obama campaigned for the opposite.

Perhaps you should direct your scrutiny towards the inconsistency of the President instead of people on a blog.

Daemonocracy on June 17, 2013 at 2:50 PM

I hope everyone that hasn’t read the following will do so.

http://m.usatoday.com/article/news/2428809

Link to the liveblog Q&A for those interested. Some good answers to many of your questions, take them or leave them.

RiverCocytus on June 17, 2013 at 12:34 PM

Thank you. Everyone should read this. Best description of what has went on and going on by 3 that know.

bluefox on June 17, 2013 at 1:32 PM

bluefox on June 17, 2013 at 3:00 PM

Follow this.

Arrangements are mad made, live or die.

Schadenfreude on June 17, 2013 at 2:03 PM

Schadenfreude on June 17, 2013 at 3:03 PM

Genuine on June 17, 2013 at 2:11 PM

You are losing your brother basement dwellers:

The severe drop in Obama’s approval rating was fueled by a sharp 17-point drop among Americans under 30, according to the poll. That’s particularly discouraging heading into 2014 because Democrats have felt they have a lock on the youth vote after the 2012 elections.

http://clashdaily.com/2013/06/cnn-shocker-majority-doesnt-trust-obama-approval-rating-suffers-severe-drop/

davidk on June 17, 2013 at 3:13 PM

I think Mr. Snowden is the equivalent of Mr. Blake. A douchebag of the highest order.

unclesmrgol on June 17, 2013 at 2:41 PM

The irony of watching a “conservative” trade his freedom for security is delicious. Too bad you’re a fraud. A real conservative understands that government is a myth and that every time you vote you ask someone to “ACT” in YOUR Name. You think that somehow the NSA will “save” you..lol. Snowden’s not the traitor and this is because the government believes that YOU are the enemy. Why else would they “need” to spy on you?

Allapundit is a government dependent who somehow believes that the NSA is a requirement for espionage. Why don’t you inquire about how Obama has instructed the FBI to back off ALL mosques in the US? An I.B.D. article explains that “Since October 2011, mosques have been off-limits to F.B.I. agents. No more surveillance or undercover sting operations without high-level approval from a special oversight body at the Justice Department dubbed the Sensitive Operations Review Committee.”

Now you know how the Feds missed Boston.

I wonder when Allahpundit will stop being so sure of himself and do some real investigative reporting? I wonder when some of the twits will stop focusing on liberals and focus on the real problems of government ?

DevilsPrinciple on June 17, 2013 at 3:19 PM

There has been a total of 5 NSA Whistleblowers to come forward since 2001.

3 NSA Whistleblowers came out in 2001/2002 and one NSA Whistleblower came out in 2005 and another NSA Whistleblower came out in 2013.

All 5 NSA Whistleblowers became convinced that our fundamental constitutional rights were being violated, they complained first to their superiors, then to federal investigators, congressional oversight committees and, finally, all of them leaked info to the news media.

JustTheFacts on June 17, 2013 at 5:29 PM

Snowden does seem to be operating in the wiki-leaks camp now, but this is a distraction from the fact of unprecedented domestic spying. The fact that the international part of it is also embarrassing is also another distraction.

Espionage is expected when you are at war with another country, but it’s looking like we stopped caring about that a long time ago. So all this stuff about it being okay to spy on foreigners or drone them at will is just not viable as policy.

You should not be spying or droning anyone without probable cause and due-process. If you don’t accept that, “we are the (third-world) ones we have been waiting for”.

virgo on June 17, 2013 at 11:41 PM

Yeah, that Emmanuel Goldstein…er…Edward Snowden is a really bad guy. He’s a traitor of the first order, and I hate him so much!! I. Hate. Him. IhatehimIhatehimIhatehimIhatehim…etc.

*two minutes later*

Whew! I feel a sense of catharsis, you know?

cavalier973 on June 18, 2013 at 2:01 AM

You attack the messenger but refuse to address the message, quisling.

MadisonConservative on June 17, 2013 at 12:00 PM

Isn’t telling the Chinese exactly which servers we penetrated and telling the Russians which communications of theirs were compromised part of the message, quisling?

unclesmrgol on June 18, 2013 at 11:17 AM

He is a traitor. The more I hear from the more I feel this way.

Bullhead on June 18, 2013 at 12:08 PM

quisling?

unclesmrgol on June 18, 2013 at 11:17 AM

Congratulations on demonstrating you don’t know the meanings of words you use, quisling. You’re the one defending the surveillance state, and outright lying about what has been leaked. Suck on that big government teat like you always have, buy yourself a dictionary, and try to appear less clueless next time.

MadisonConservative on June 18, 2013 at 12:52 PM

Soooooo …. agency charged with collecting foreign intelligence collected foreign intelligence?

Color me shocked.

pendell2 on June 18, 2013 at 2:38 PM

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